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How did Nippon create an over as fuck anti-hero when WWE hasn't

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How did Nippon create an over as fuck anti-hero when WWE hasn't been able to do that since the Attitude Era?
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> 26,000 (packed)
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>>2128527
Because Weeb-land has a huge culture of workaholicism and being beta as fuck to your boss.

this guys appeals to the people who hate that
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>>2128528
Assen Na Yo.
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>Gimmick is that he doesn't give a fuck about anything
>Has an upbeat as fuck song that doesn't fit his gimmick at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wykfdhIl0hw
>Takes even longer than The Undertaker to get to the ring
>Makes his entrance last even longer because he has to take off his suit
>People still cheer for him
>The whole stage for WK11 was built specifically for his entrance and he wasn't even in the main event
Based
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>>2128527
>chinks
>rasslin
>good
Choose one
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>>2128539
BASED NON GOVERNED MAN
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>>2128529
>Because Weeb-land has a huge culture of workaholicism and being beta as fuck to your boss.
>this guys appeals to the people who hate that

Exactly this.
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>>2128527

He's literally nip SCSA. Except he has an upbeat theme for some reason
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>>2128527
He's literally Roman Reigns as a heel, crazy how one change could completely take a wrestler to new heights

I hope Vince dies a slow painful death for giving us the samoan charisma vacuum we have now
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>>2128567
Naito's theme is fucking GOAT
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>>2128567
STONUH CORUDO SAN
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>>2128572
Vince since just start a working relationship with AAA or some low tier mexico organization and send them talent as excursions almost everyone who wrestles in Mexico gets better
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>>2128527

CM Punk stopped existing?
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>>2128592

>phil
>mattering
Hi Phil!

>>2128577
This. it just needs some glass breaking at the start.
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>>2128540
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>>2128527

By sending him to Mexico, having him join a heel stable with massive heat, and then calling him back and copying that stables gimmick but with nips instead of spics.
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>>2128630
NJPW EXPOSED
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>>2128610
>This. it just needs some glass breaking at the start.

The riff and explosion is basically the glass shatter.
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naito always looks happy when teaming with rush
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By literally recreating the Stone Cold storyline.
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>>2128654
>Recreating
He's literally Roman Reigns if he actually turned heel. He was pushed hard as a babyface but fans didn't like him and saw him as Tanahashi 2.0 so they had to send him to Mexico and turn him heel
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>>2128567
>his understudy SANADA has the nickname "Cold Skull"

What is the code?

>>2128528
It was actually closer to 40K
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>>2128661

Is the masked Manlet the Janetty of LOS?
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If he is so over why is he not the champion. Is he like Roman Reigns where he's the most over guy in the company but for some reason is the midcard title holder instead of the main title champ for no apparent reason?
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>>2128677

Because NJPWs Booker has a hard on for Okada.
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>>2128677
The IC title is not a midcard belt.
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>>2128677
That's his schtick, being held down by the man and not afforded the opportunities that guys like Okada get, if they gave him title shots all the time, he wouldn't be who he is rn
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>>2128677
>Is he like Roman Reigns where he's the most over guy in the company

But even Reigns isn't like that.
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>>2128677
Roman Reigns is also carrying the mid card belt, what exactly is your point? The most over guy can't always have the main title.
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> L O S

>O

>S
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>>2128677
naito won the championship and was massively over
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>>2128577
>>2128539
This just sounds like Street Fighter music
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I used to think Naito was in a dire need of a music change since his heel turn, but considering his gimmick is IDGAF... it totally fits.
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He's not an anti-hero. He's just a heel.
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>>2128768
This. He's not like SCSA at all, the comparison is wrong. SCSA was a babyface who acted like a heel fighting against a corrupt authority. Naito is just a straight up asshole heel.
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>>2128768
He's a dick to everyone but he's occasionally cool with fans wearing LIJ gear
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>>2128768
>implying LIJ won't become the anti-heroes the company needs against Suzuki-gun & Bullet Club
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>>2128802
>Kenny comes out to some final boss video game music type of song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de6aMu3QQIE

>Okada comes out to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBY_ZkjrKZc

>Naito comes out to a song that doesn't fit his gimmick at all yet at the same time it works perfectly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wykfdhIl0hw

>Meanwhile Minoru Suzuki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iybuD6CbfzE

What did he mean by this?
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>>2128528
Wait until he actually main events Wrestle Kingdom. He's the most over guy in Japan
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>>2128815
>implying KAZE NI NARE being yelled by hundreds to thousands of nips isn't GOAT tier for theme songs
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>>2128815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0P-SgpwYnE
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>>2128774

Isn't Los nipperinos whole gimmick as an anti hero?
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>>2128587
As much as I agree, Vinces ego is too huge to admit that other promotions can improve you.
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>>2128527
When naito stole all the booking and gimmick from Mexico
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>>2128527
He is proof that the fans are always wrong

BASED
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>>2128528
Raw is (packed)
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>>2129163
>November 20, 2012

CM PUNK BTFO
0 DRAW
COULDN'T EVEN DRAW FOR A FUCKING RAW

Meanwhile ever since they stated pushing the big dog, raws have been fully packed.
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>>2129168
>Meanwhile ever since they stated pushing the big dog, raws have been fully packed.
LOL
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>>2129163
You know that they purposely cordon off most of the seats near the hard camera, right?
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>>2129175
This is a house show
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>>2129168
Roman debuted in 2012, that's why raw was (packed)
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>>2128527
Funny thing is, heel/anti-hero Reigns would probably get over as fuck. Instead he's superman and comes out to a chorus of boos.
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>>2129201
Naito was getting more boos than Roman and was not popular at all unlike Roman. He got BTFO by a fan vote telling him to Gtfo. Then he went to Mexico and turned heel. Now he's over.
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>>2129152
>Fans are wrong for booing his tepid babyface character and causing him to go Ingobernable
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>>2129209
Naito got more cheers than Roman did against Styles.
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>>2129176
Only when they can't fill the arena.
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>>2128677
Because Okada is the protected top guy and they want to use Kenny to bring in westerners. But he could be one of the guys to feud with Okada in the future
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>>2128527
Im suprised more people dont talk about Shibata. He looks like he could hang with the top talent. He doesnt have to do flips to keep up with them
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>26,000 (PACKED)

>>2128527
Who?
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>>2128528
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>>2128536
>>2128661
>>2128839
>>2129163
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Based anon triggering NJPW's entire Western fan-base
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>>2129580
can't wait for the day that Shibata kicks Okada to oblivion for the IWGP Heavyweight
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Didn't people hate him for a while?

I remember back in the /sp/ days in particular, this dude was involved with a mask gimmick or something and it was generally agreed to be bad.
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>>2131579
The consensus is:
Naito before Mexico: boring and hated babyface.
Naito after Mexico: amazing and over heel.
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>>2129176

If you can even imagine, there was a time when WWE actually filled entire buildings with fans who paid money to see the show.
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>>2128815

>forgetting the best entrance music for an NJPW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTPBX-iOks

Mainly because autistic fans didn't sing along to it
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