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Last thread has hit the bump limit, time for more discussions on what is entertainment's true purpose. What is truth itself?

http://www.stardom-world.com - World Wonder Ring Stardom's own streaming network. Go here and hand over your yen monthly to see Kairi Hojo, Io Shirai, Mayu Iwatani, and terrible gaijins
http://pro-w-wave.com/wave_network - Pro Wrestling WAVE's streaming service. Uses the same setup as Stardom's, so if you've gave that one a go this one'll be easy to navigate despite being in moon. Feed ZABUN your money to see Misaki Ohata, Sumire Natsu, Yumi Ohka, and that one bald broad Sawako Shimono
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B5rK95X3mRiiX1lTUkFzaGRhaUU - this is the daddy. The RealHero Archive, packed full of enough puro and joshi to keep you going until you kill yourself before you're 30. The Joshi folder contains pretty much everything that's aired in 2016 as well as a lot of classic stuff, with more uploaded as it airs. Only things that don't get uploaded are promotions with their own networks, so no Stardom or WAVE for you. Have at it

Previous Thread: >>2098263

2017 sees everyone's favourite little Japanese boy Kaho Kobayashi off to Mexico for an extended excursion. Let's all pray for her safe and speedy return. Stay safe lil respecting respect ;A;
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Forgot the thread title like a dumbass but we are now on /joshi/ general #4: Goodbye Kaho edition. Good hustle senpaitachi
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>>2110540
Not that familiar with weeb wrestlers anon, can you sauce me on this one?
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>>2110687
OP pic is Kaho Kobayashi, girl in her mid-20s. She's signed to WAVE but wrestles all over, her most prominent role outside of WAVE is as part of the Mission K4 stable in OZ Academy
She's about to go off on a lengthy excursion to Mexico, no idea when she'll be back. Not sure what company she'll be working with but I assume AAA since Sumire Natsu, another WAVE girl, was on AAA's Japan show

If you want a good recent match check out her and AKINO vs Arisa Nakajima & Tsukasa Fujimoto from OZ's Yokohama Dreams Park show on 11/13
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comeback when
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>>2110738
Is this the chick that did all the kung fu kick shit?
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https://twitter.com/MASTRAGZ/status/816323822378893312

loser
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hey reddit posters little advice for the next thread dont ever indulge in the ''all joshi is shit except the feds i dont get tapes for'' guy autism, you will never win
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>>2110829
>ass-blasted realhero wota detected

it's not the landowners fault that you will never see the good shit.
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>>2110855
you dont own property or ever went to japan, stop repeating around the memes you read in /alt/ it only makes you even look more like a weird bot programmed by the most embarrassing kid ever
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>>2110866
Why are you so frustrated? Are superior opinions that shatter your worldview so unsettling for you?
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>>2110898
all your opinions are shit and in two different joshi threads on two different boards you didnt find ONE person to agree with you
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>>2110903
Why would I seek confirmation for my superior taste from inferiors? In fact, I'm quite relieved that uncultured sub-humans like you will never get it.
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>>2110916
all that discourse would be cute if i didnt know you spend your days posting pictures in joshi threads
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>>2110760
Cute
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bishfan-kun is hilarious all of his posts are based around meme buzzwords from other boards, he's either a bot or a kid who spends all of his time on imageboards (wonder which one it is)
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>>2110928
Now I'm confused. I barely ever post pictures, you really should check your facts before accusing other people of things that you yourself do.
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>>2110938
stop talking to me and hang yourself
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>>2110947
I'm not the person wallowing in nihilism here, I very much enjoy life, thank you very much.
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>>2110954
ok happy fool
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>>2110962
Very low energy response. Sad.
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>>2110966
you dont deserve more than 7 words
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>>2110971
strangely enough, you contradicted this statement several times in this thread.
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>>2110983
boring
stop talking to me
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Why are people getting so triggered by the "I own property in Japan" guy, can't you just ignore him especially since it's clearly a gimmick
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>>2110990
as a top tier shitposter people with no originality in their shitposts triggers me to the highest level
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>>2110898
>superior
>opinion
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2002 Kaoru Ito is the best possible Aja Kong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxzXKDFTXo
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>>2110540
Speaking of Kaho, has anyone seen that Mission K4 produce show? Any good? Gonna be ordering some stuff from the DVD sellers and was thinking about throwing it in there
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>>2110934
kek. Holy shit, I'm being accused of shit I didn't even do. Learn how to read power levels. You're ridiculous.
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>>2110997
You know exactly who the "property in Japan", "post-structuralist" poster is. He's one of your guys, ffs. For you to confuse me with him is an honor, desu.

>>2111270
>has anyone seen that Mission K4 produce show? Any good?

It was a very fun show to watch, but I don't know if I'd pay money for it, especially since you can watch it for free on Real Hero Drive.
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>>2111519
Oh, is it on there? Didn't realise. Tbh I might end up getting it anyway if it's decent, it'd only cost a few bucks
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>>2111519
Do you know what folder it's in? Assumed it would be in Misc Joshi but it's not there, and I'm not seeing it the OZ folder either
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>>2111545
Oh, my mistake. It's not on the drive, but it's up on DM.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x46ll63
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>>2111490
you suck so much i confuse you with other bad posters wow !
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Post rare hojos and hanas

Im posting from a new phone
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>>2111561
you can find a lot of them on the hashtag fuckoff on twitter
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>>2111555
thanks dude
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>>2111564
Eat shit wewtist
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is chihiro a virgin?
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>>2111966
I wish.... Maybe 1 day I can save up enough 2 go 2 Nippon and meet her... Fall in luv/marry and sex her up....beam me up Scotty... I'm ded/depressed. Fuck this gay alien meme world known as earth.
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someone justify himori's career to me.

is she the most worthless wrestler in /joshi/?
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>>2113114
That's not Alex Lee
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How do we bring back dojo life and convince Jaguar Yokota to come back and train all joshis in all promotions?
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mayu & hojo are maidens of purity and good selling.
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>>2111490
Yo, I really can't stand Yoko Bito's face. Her smile is a crime against humanity.
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>>2111561
Seriously, son. Follow her on Twitter.
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I hope I can manage to see a Stardom Show live and meet my hero Io before she's gone and Hunter guts the company for every bit of talent.
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>>2114129
I'd be surprised if he managed to bag Io or Kairi, to be honest. No worries.
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>>2111561
Fuck Hana. Post based Mama Kimura.
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>>2114144
The rate WWE is signing talent and how big a mark Io is, it's really only a matter of time before Io goes to WWE. Whether it's now or next year, it's gonna happen eventually.
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>>2114148
I'd love nothing more than to fuck Hana, my nigga.
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>>2114157
She's like 15 years old, you creep.

Mama Kimura is better in every way.
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>>2114168
She was born in 97, nigga.
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>>2114176
>there are people in this world who were born in 97
>people who were born when I first saw The Phantom Menace are now old enough to drive
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>>2114193
Stop, I didn't ask to be reminded that I'm closer to dying than I think I am
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>>2114198
No, you just lust after what is a constant reminder of that fact: a teenager
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>>2114202
Meh, she's legal here. No harm, no foul.
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>>2114157
>>2114207
Please don't sexualize my oshi. Thank you.
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>>2114207
"Legal" has nothing to do with it. Lots of things are legal, not everything legal is a good idea.

Find a woman your own age, someone you can relate to. You'll be better off.
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>>2114225
Married already. She's 25, like me. She also fetishizes attractive Asian women, like me.
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>>2114129
Based Io won't be setting foot in WWE until she's washed up and old like Asuka. So it'll be another 7 years or so
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>>2114238
Or, you know, in about 3 months or so when she actually does go
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>>2114234
Why do i get the feeling you are married to a 17 stone pink haired bulldyke anon?
Post her
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>>2114234
>married at 25

Yeah, good luck with that, son.
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i want rika to hip attack me whilst im helplessly trapped in a romero special too
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>>2114770
She's not biting, Paul
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>>2114811
Wow, what a feeling.
Nah, this is a joshi thread. I'm just gonna keep posting /ourgirl/
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>>2114873
Thanks, pham.
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>>2115885
why she so lewd bros
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>>2116066
Cause she's a shit wrestler and knows it so uses sex appeal to get over.
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>>2116068
this
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>>2116066
Hana understands the business. She knows how to read the crowd and get them on her side, whether face or heel. That is why she is one of the most over wrestlers in joshi after having only wrestled for 10 months. She just has that IT factor, anon. The charisma; it comes naturally.
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>>2116120
this
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Anyone seen Ayako Hamada/Nanae vs Yoshiko/Rina Yamashita from 11/27 WAVE?
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>>2116120
literally no one outside of this thread cares about her stop making shit up
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>>2115879
Based anon
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Been watching a few old Sexy Purple Thunder Sisters matches and I miss Mio as a wrestler so much lads
Also think I prefer watching SPTS Io to current Io and it's not close
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The show with the Stardom celeb matches aired today and they apparently cut the Hojo match from the broadcast. Io backstage politics are wild.
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>>2116570
>I miss Mio as a wrestler so much lads
Iktfb
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>>2116584
good, Hojo was selling and getting put in holds by the tv hostess, this shit didnt need to make TV
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>>2116570
I miss Triple Tails
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>>2116633
Fucking love Mio's Kaguya mask
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>>2116633
Any recs for Triple Tails as a unit? Only ever seen either Shirais teaming together or Kana singles
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>>2116663
Triple Tails vs. Serena, Syuri and Makoto from SMASH.16 was pretty good
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>>2116791
>tfw I own SMASH.15 and SMASH.17 on DVD
god dammit
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God I wish Arsion was stil around, it was so much better than Stardom.
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>>2117269
Guess who killed Arsion...
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>>2117269
top irony in that post
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>>2117269
What went wrong with Arsion? Hamada being pushed as the ace too soon? Too many belts? Horrible booking? That weird license number system they had?
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>>2117639
Ask him
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>>2117639
my japanese friends told me once that when they watched the first Arsion tape and it opened up with the roster posing nude they realized that it would never go anywhere
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>>2117639
Lioness taking over and completely changing the booking style.
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>>2117657
He really is a piece of shit.

>>2117922
And she really is a huge bitch.
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>>2118017
Hi Aja!
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>>2118026
>implying I'm wrong
He turned the ARSION girls into whores and brought in known selfish worker Lioness as booker. Both of them killed ARSION.
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Didn't Rossy have a hand in NEO dying too??
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>>2118240
No, you're thinking of JD'Star. Lack of rookies and new talent killed NEO when half the roster retired at once.
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>>2118260
He's the cancer killing joshi.
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>>2118519
Rossy has done nothing wrong.
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>>2118584
He's booked Kyona to job to his latest incoming gaijin, Rossy has done nothing right
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>>2118584
He cant even book a decent Korakuen card
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this is the full 1/15 Stardom Korakuen card btw

1. Azumi & Arisu vs. Natsuko & Ruaka
2. Mimura vs. Anou
3. HZK vs. Konami vs. Wolf
4. Kyona vs. Baszler
5. Highspeed Title: Iwatani vs. Watanabe
6. Tag Titles: Hojo & Bito vs. Newell & KLR
7. Red Belt: Io vs. Viper

Couldn't they have put Wolf in the second match instead? Way to ruin a potentially fun singles match.
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>>2119521
How long before Mimura gets bored and does something else instead of wrestling
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>>2119521
>>2119525
Wouldn't be shocked if Mimura announces her retirement after that match. Seems kind of random to book it unless they have something big planned for Anou.

HZK/Konami is sure to happen at some point.
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>>2119535
I doubt the match was even planned that way, matches 2-4 are probably the result of re-shuffling the card after Hana got injured.
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>>2119521
>not booking Konami vs. Baszler
I mean come the fuck on.
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Hojo says she was inspired by the Young Bucks and Omega at Wrestle Kingdom during the press conference. Wonder if she'll try some new moves.
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>>2119601
She does love international guys.
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>>2119601
>likes No-Sell Ospreay
>likes Young Literallywhoindieshitters
>likes Kenny "/jp/ personified" Omega

I know she's my wife and all but I'm feeling a strong sense of disappointment right now tbqh
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>>2119609
She is a very impressionable young woman
At least her top three are solid picks
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>>2119647
Her downfall began when she saw a lucha spotfest in Mexico for the first time. Rossy should have never allowed her to watch any other wrestling after she got that Kobashi DVD set.
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>>2119665
>after she got that Kobashi DVD set.
Sauce?
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>>2119601
Kairi is fucking dropped now there's no saving her at this point
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>>2119689
Some fan gifted it to her and she posed with it for a pic, it should be somewhere on her twitter feed from 2-3 years back if you really want to see it that bad. Not long after that she began to start chopping people...
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>>2119721
>Not long after that she began to start chopping people...
Oh Kairi. Probably a good thing they didn't gift her a Manami Toyota DVD or else she'd be in a wheelchair by now.
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>>2119721
>>2119732
>berry berry good hahto
At least she didn't get given a Mutoh compilation otherwise we'd be despairing at her putting effort into 10% of her matches
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2015-current kairi hojo doing 500 things she's not good at nor ever will be makes me unironically miss act who literally didnt do anything she couldnt do
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>>2119740
Take that, Mutoh.
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kairi hojo brain damage is strong
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>>2119768
I dunno her last run before retiring from in-ring is a strong argument that she attempted to wrestle when she couldn't
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>>2119805
i forgot that last run existed for a reason dont fucking ruin it for me
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>>2119768
Kairi would have been better off if someone had given her a Akira Hokuto DVD set. Hokuto wasn't as physically gifted as her peers (or at least didn't rely solely on her physical abilities like Manami), but was the best worker in AJW for a short period of time because she knew how to work a match perfectly using psychology, drama and storytelling.

It's just a shame idiots are easily impressed by big spots and not much else these days.
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>>2119781
honestly I can give Mutoh a pass at this point because he's booking Great Kabuki in a Korakuen main event in 2017
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>>2119819
I think she does name Hokuto as her 3rd favourite wrestler ever. Think it was her anyway, I can't remember who Mayu's 3rd was after Okada and Dragon Kid
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>>2119819
fuck off
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>>2119819
she was literally all spots and killing herself which is what kairi's doing anyway
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>>2119860
>she was literally all spots and killing herself
No she wasn't. Yea she did those spots because that was the AJW style, but her best matches were the ones that didn't rely on big spots.
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top 3 90s ajw wrestlers was Hotta, Chapparita ASARI and Kaoru Ito just stop kids
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>>2119832
It was Ibushi
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>>2119923
what a mark
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>>2119647
ffs despite the huge crush I have on her she seems to have totally shit taste. Even fatsuka has better taste than her desu

Maybe this is a sign that I should be a Hanabro instead
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>>2119983
Being a Hanabro is cool, once you come to terms with the fact that the whole Pancrase roster is running a train on her in the locker-room.
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waifuposting is such a shit premise
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Joshi only got good in the 00s. There is nothing worthwhile before then; bunch of high spots, no-selling and flat back bumps.

>>2119983
You're a fan of Lucha Underground so it's not like your taste is any better.
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>>2119983
Asuka's favourite wrestler is herself then Yuki Ishikawa in that order
So she has better taste than most
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>>2120028
BTFO
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heres the thing waifuposters

waifu culture is the reason why japan is a dying country

do you want to kill your country ?
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>>2120072
I have Trump to do that
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>>2120072
My country has 1001 problems worse than waifuposters
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>>2119768
Act tried to shoot and found out she couldn't do that well.
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>>2120319
Nice one bud
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>>2120028
Better than any kind of gookshit or britshit tbqh senpai

>>2120020
would fap/10
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>>2120713
You're such a conflicted little dude. It's kinda depressing
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What Avid Rival matches should I watch?
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>>2121184
All of them.
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>>2119919
Asari had trouble hitting her own finisher, lame spot monkey.
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>>2120020
Hana-chan would do no such thing.
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>>2120074
Nice try, Hillary.
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Shirahime caught wearing her engagement ring in public!
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>>2119604
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>>2121632
based Cheeseburger
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>>2119601
>Kairi will never join Death By Elbow
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>>2121612
Wrong hand. And the ring on the left is on her pinky...
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>>2121279
EVERY SINGLE ONE?
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>>2122374
Don't think this gimmick will get over tbqh
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>>2122371
All of them that are on the drive, yeah. Their match in Ice Ribbon at Yokohama that aired recently ruled.
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>Io Shirai vs. Mayu Iwatani in Stardom on 122216 (Samurai TV version)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k2yHJLvMf223oflhgSU

Snatch it while it's still up, fags.
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>>2122438
I don't get this reference. You're stupid.
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>>2122398
Just like hulk chokin then
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>>2122432
So glad someone still uploads the Samurai TV airings. Being able to support a promotion through their own streaming service is nice and all, but Stardom World's ringside cam setup takes away more than it adds imo. Also shitty dub entrance themes
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>>2122647
I don't see why a deal can't be worked out with Samurai TV to upload the matches they record on the Stardom site unclipped.
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Which wrestlers should I avoid watching?
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>>2122655
Hikaru Shida
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>>2122655
Alex Lee
Although sadly she was in that one Sendai Girls six-woman tag before Chihiro's title shot that was really good
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>>2122655
The ones that only use sex appeal.
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>>2122655
Tsukushi because you wouldn't appreciate her fully
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>>2122775
She's a midget with an old lady face.
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>>2122811
See?
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>>2122813
I tried watching her match against Manami Toyota and I couldn't take it seriously. Should have been a comedy match.
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>>2122655
None of them. All joshi are beautiful.
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>>2122655
Natsu Sumire has no redeeming qualities
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>>2122922
She's hot
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>>2122922
Would you like a taste of cold steel?
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>>2122925
She looks like she is at first glance but then you realise she has a weird alien face and her body is straight all the way up and down
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>>2122940
That's all hot though.
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>>2122955
I disagree and consider you a degenerate
Also she's a terrible wrestler if you're into that whole "wrestling" part of things
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No joshi is ugly.
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>>2122976
Rydeen Hagane
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>>2122975
Meiko Satomura, Mariko Yoshids, and Dynamite Kansai are my girls.
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>>2123012
Yoshida* dammit
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I would let this grey alien QT probe me!
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>>2123058
If it wasn't for the boobs I would swear this was the body of a man
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Sumire in her most pure and natural form.
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>>2120819
Better conflicted than a sad wewtist
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>>2123083
No human being should have eyes that large. She's like a shapeshifting alien that saw an anime before she saw what real humans look like
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>>2122976
MAYU
A
Y
U
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>>2123098
The 'tsu Face of Fear
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EDDIE AINT IN HEAVEN, KAHO.
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>>2123119
Kaho Kobayashi looks like a schoolboy and is still unironically more attractive than Natsu "Zeta Reticulan" Sumire
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>>2122976
Bito
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>>2123199
Bito looks like a cute 40 year old housewife.
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>>2123219
She looks like a woman who didn't hit the wall so much as have it fall on her
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I've calmy accepted that Kairi will never have good veteran guidance cuz nobody likes Rossy and that she should've left Stardom to either git gud in freelance or go to WWE and be a giant mark over that bad matches with shitty white girls and get paid for it

>>2122650
They don't have leverage

Like AJPW has the leverage to get Samurai TV AND GAORA to air their shows, New Japan has the deal with TV Asahi for NJWorld and leverage with Samurai TV, DDT is most likely gonna have leverage to get Samurai TV production for DDT Universe(only for DDT itself of course and not the branching promotions). Stardom gets one show a month and MAYBE the odd live show(even though the last one they got to do in September was so fucking awful and embarrassing), which they've only had 2 of in their lifetime and neither of them are even their Sumo Hall show from 4 years ago. They have no leverage to get that production in.
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>>2123388
How has Rossy managed to alienate everyone good
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>Tall
>Attractive

Why aren't they the aces of Stardom?
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>>2123402
He destroyed two promotions before he even started Stardom. You don't end up with a good reputation after shit like that. He's the Vince Russo of joshi.
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>>2123412
So how does he keep getting the money and people to start more promotions
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>>2123423
His formula of hiring attractive joshis and pimping them out finally worked with Stardom so third time's a charm I guess. But they're losing attendance now.
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>>2123423
rossy is rich as fuck from his time in 80s-90s wrestling , barely pays anyone on his roster, and fills the show with little girls who don't need to get paid and gaijins who works for a plane ticket and a place to sleep on his couch
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>>2123467
But how do we stop him from being the cancer that's killing joshi?
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>>2123402
Basically blowing off a bunch of the joshi scene as a whole, probably a ton of inside issues we don't know fully about, also the Aja Kong situation when she left ARISON

Someone mentioned it already but Vince Russo is a perfect comparison to Rossy. Thing is about 90% of western Stardom fans are clueless of Rossy outside of Fuka produce shows and mid 90s AJW cuz they're all super new fans and/or nobody but the long time followers of the scene which is a VERY small number cares or talks about late 90s to late 2000s joshi apart from stuff like the Meiko/Aja matches and Kurihara thus very little in-depth pieces on that time exist to give incite
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>>2123499
How about you give us the rundown about Rossy? You seem to know more about him than the rest of us and you ain't wrong about there being very little written about him in the interweb. He doesn't even have his own wiki page.
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>>2123512
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ロッシー小川
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>>2123427
Stardom is horrible and losing attendance is something that I'd love because it would hopefully lead to actual change or they just keep going down then die which is what's suppose to happen with a bad product refusing to refresh/adapt, but no the attendance isn't down anywhere. They're selling out Shinkiba all the time and their shows outside of Tokyo(more specifically Shinkiba and Korakuen), which have increased a ton compared to other years, are apparently doing well if you believe the numbers they give out for those shows. Their Korakuen attendance, which can only be argued about "decreasing" if we're just going by everything since their inception, have been the essentially same numbers since mid-late 2014. This year's average is lower than previous years no doubt, but keep in mind 2015 would've looked the same as this year has in that regard if it wasn't for special attractions and coverage of the Shirai Sisters teaming up for the first time in about 3 years but also the last time, Act's return and later Act's retirement. Other than that, it's the same 900-1050 all across except for the GP and November Korakuen shows of 2014 that both did around 850, GP show in 2015 that did 650 and the June Korakuen show that did 875. Their attendance is not going down. For Korakuen it's not going anywhere and won't go anywhere presumably anytime soon, but it's not going down.
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>>2123524
Moon runes wiki doesn't count.
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Rossy has done more good for joshi than bad.

>Created ARSION which led to Stardom and WAVE
>Produced the Beauty Pair and Crush Gal
>Created Akira Hokuto's gimmick
>Made stars out of GAMI, Faby Apache, AKINO, Fumiko Hamada, Ai Fujita, amongst others
>Scouted Arisa Nakajima and Ayumi Kurihara for AtoZ
>Stardom in general
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>>2123527
It's funny; I was reading some old news about ARSION and this website said this particular ARSION show pulled in 3,000 people and it was viewed as a failure yet any modern joshi promotion would kill to have those numbers.
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rossy goes way back, he was working for NJPW as a Talent agent in CMLL in the late 80s
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>>2123552
>Created ARSION which led to Stardom and WAVE
>WAVE
kek

>Produced the Beauty Pair and Crush Gal
No he didn't
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Rossy is the guy who told NJPW that they should bring in Ultimo Dragon in the early 90s, making him a star in japan. So if you think about it Rossy Ogawa is the only reason why Toryumon/T2P ever happened and the only reason why something like Dragon Gate exists today

dragon gate is shit, but it's still a testament of all the things rossy has done for this industry
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>>2123567
Rossy's connection with NOSAWA also led to Dark Angel and eventually Io Shirai joining Stardom. He's done a shitload for the business.
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How much of this is actually true and how much is just bullshit he says in his Stardom World interviews where he claims responsibility for everything ranging from Nick Bockwinkel to the WK11 main event
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>>2123621
Pretty sure Rossy is the one posting all that shit in this thread.
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if rossy hadn't produced crush gals, there would have been no gaea and thus no oz academy. if he hadn't created arison, we wouldn't have wave and stardom, and jwp would have died long ago without someone like arisa nakajima as their ace. no ayumi kurihara means neo dies before they can help emi sakura create ice ribbon from the ground up and no diana being built from its ashes means no sareee.

it all comes full circle if you really think about.
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>>2123654
Nice try, Rossy. And fuck you for killing ARSION.
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>>2123654
created arison and AtoZ***
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I don't think Fedoramans track record is particulary great, but blaming him for everything bad in joshi has become a meme since the 00's.

The two main points against him tend to be the whole Aja situation and the Athress idea "killing" Jd Star.
The former was a pretty shitty thing to do, I agree, but still not really the sleaziest thing a promoter ever did and Jd Star was toast anyway, that's why they were desperate enough to give in to his ideas in the first place.

He was another failing promoter in a failing business at the time, it simply seems to me that hardcore joshi nerds singled him out and developed a hate boner for him due to the Athress gimmick "tainting" the image of joshi.

He is hardly a Russo, considering that Stardom is a relatively succesful promotion in todays scene. In-ring wise 2016 may have been the drizzling shits for the most part, but their hardcores don't seem to care, since the non-Korakuen attendance is at the highest level since peak-Aikawa era Stardom and the Korakuen numbers aren't exactly bad for joshi, especially when you consider that they run more there than every other joshi fed and don't seem to give the slightest fuck about what they put on those cards.
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>>2123695
What was the Aja situation?
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im happy me and me fellow rossy ogawa lawyers found our place

>>2123621
the rossy working in cmll and telling njpw about ultimo dragon is not a story told by rossy i bet he doesnt even realize he created Dragon Gate by proxy
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>>2123555
Well, that's because expectations were much higher back then, while the business as a whole went into a nosedive. That combination of a clear shrinking of the fanbase while the promotions weren't willing to look weak and scale down to adjust to the situation nearly killed the entire scene.
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>>2123695
stardom core fanbase is really unbreakable because any other fed would have died putting on the amount of korakuen garbage shows with virtually no good matches from top to bottom like they did in 2016
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>>2123702
Basically, she left Arsion but Rossy still made it seem like she was on upcoming cards, making it look like she no-showed.
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>>2123695
>He is hardly a Russo, considering that Stardom is a relatively succesful promotion in todays scene. In-ring wise 2016 may have been the drizzling shits for the most part, but their hardcores don't seem to care
Except that's almost exactly the same as Vince Russo when he was head writer in TNA.
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>>2123716
Could TNA ever have been considered an overall successful promotion?
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>>2123731
Never. It had chances chances chances and squandered them every single time by either ignoring the idea of change despite a terrible product with unmoving numbers because they think it's "good enough" and trying any harder would be a stupid thing, going at the big opportunities for which they needed to appropriately maintain and boost company momentum and grow, OR doing some deliberately stupid shit, or just basically blowing off vocal feedback with anger and insecurity which ruins public perception due to the shitty PR. They've been on death's door for about 3-4 years and survive simply based on luck. That of course was all after Russo had been gone even though he had an apparent advisor role which was despite Mutoh and Spike not wanting Russo around to which they lied to them about, but what he did was part of why TNA has had and been nothing but problems stacked on each other. /tna rant

When Russo was booking, didn't matter what crock of shit he sharted on TV, it was the same number every time from the same hardcores. Maybe ONE good idea like Angle/Joe at Lockdown basically being presented like a shoot fight, but was accompanied by so much other terrible decisions it's almost masked away.
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>>2123126
Kaho is 120% schoolboy don't you know?
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>>2123628
I think you meant Sonny
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>>2123847
What happened in Sonny's life that made him such a lunatic
And how come he didn't get an Ice Ribbon gig instead since they're clearly his first love
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sonny sexualizing jungle kyona with his eyes is the most disgusting promotional tactic of 2016
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>>2124114
dont sexualize my wife you motherfucker
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>>2124114
kyona brought it on herself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e-mla1Bzf4
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>>2120072
Trump will kill my country before waifufags can, actually
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This thread looks really familiar. Like, almost identical to the joshi shitposting on /wooo/
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>>2124413
It's probably down to the shocker that all the joshi shitposters on /wooo/ are in here too
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>>2124418
And why can't you faggots keep your autism contained to one board?
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>>2124424
because half of the joshi autists are mods and we dont want to expose how much of sperg shitposters we are !
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>>2124446
Is that you, Celt?
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>>2124450
celt only pretends to watch stardom
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>>2124446
It's Sinoru

>>2124424
m8 the number of joshi fans on the internet who are game for a lol is super low, why can't we all be friends and shitpost together
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>>2124459
Can't you all just shitpost here and leave /wooo/ for the real discussion?
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>>2124482
If all the shitposters left the thread would have like 3 posts and they would all be "how come there's no joshitube anymore"
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>>2124517
so?
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>>2124482
im literally the greatest wooo poster of all time
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>>2124536
kys faggot
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>>2124623
say it to me on wooo
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>the most entertaining heel in all of joshi will never wrestle again
Why do we have to be living in the darkest timeline
Why do I keep watching old matches when it only hurts
Joshi is doomed
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>>2124857
The G O A T Shirai.

She's a fun referee now, at least.
>>
more qt's
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>>2124875
>The G O A T Shirai
Making my way through this older stuff and I unironically believe this
Definitely a way better character
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I hope Mio refs a couple matches while preggers
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>>2124391
Nice try, Hillary.
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rossy's pushing her girls to hangout with anou so they can convince her to sign.
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>>2125320
Which promotion cares more about idols than wrestling: Stardom or Actressgirl'Z?
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>>2125136
I hope she does gravure while preggers
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>>2125936
stardom has seemingly given up on trying to be the idol wrestling company. agz has the better looking roster and they regularly book akiba siori. they win.
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>>2125974
>stardom has seemingly given up on trying to be the idol wrestling company
This is a good thing though. Now if only they'd focus exclusively on the wrestling and fuck off with that stale ass booking.
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>>2126264
Nah more TV stars having Hojo matches that are somehow not even good enough to air on a Stardom show
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>>2125974
stardom has seemingly given up on actually being watchable
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Who's your favourite wimminz wrestler of all time, /joshi/. I'm curious to know since there seems to be a pretty big cross-section of people in this thread with varying knowledge/tastes
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>>2124536
>>2124638

Have sex
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>>2126378
The Scorpion Queen. Followed very closely by the Spider Queen if only because she managed to make me find submission work in pro-wrestling entertaining.
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I've watched like zero joshi before the mid-2000s and I wouldn't be able to pick a favourite but my top five is:
- Meiko Satomura
- Mio Shirai
- Hiroyo Matsumoto
- Tsukasa Fujimoto
- Yoshiko
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>>2126669
>I've watched like zero joshi before the mid-2000s
Why would you purposely NOT watch the greatest era of joshi?
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>>2126378
Hana is hot af amd that's all that matters in women's """""wrestling"""""
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>>2126698
I started watching non-Stardom joshi like midway through 2016 and just haven't gotten round to it
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>>2126961
Actually I tell a lie I've seen one Jdstar match with Jaguar Yokota and Lioness Asuka, one of the earliest Meiko vs Aja matches and one mid-90s tag match that had Devil Masami and Candy Okutsu in it
That's the sum total of my pre-2000s joshi experience
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tsukushi vs fujimoto was better than omega vs okada
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>>2126988
I have zero doubt this is true
Tsukushi wouldn't take a huge table spot then go for another 30 minutes because she's a master of psychology
And even if she did it would be way more believable because she's way tougher than Omega could ever hope to be
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>>2126995
Tsukushi bump on the apron+floor after the foot stomp would have killed 99% of wrestlers ever but Tsukushi is indestructible
>>
How was Dynamite Kansai's retirement show?
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>>2123403
>Attractive
Yeah, buddy I don't think we're looking at the same people.
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The amount of streamers for Tsukushi at Ribbonmania warms my heart
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>>2126921
this guy gets it.
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>>2127294
It was a very cute show of mature women commemorating one of the pioneers of their art craft.
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What was the actual best joshi match of 2016? Like, every list would presumably have Mayu vs Io at the top, but I'm assuming there had to have been better, singles or not. Tsukushi vs Fujimoto 30 min draw?
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>>2127718
meiko satomura vs aja kong (senjo, 4/16/16) then maya yukihi vs kyoko kimura (ice ribbon, 5/4/16).
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>>2127718
>Like, every list would presumably have Mayu vs Io at the top
Fuck no
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Hojo caught on a date with Kodaka!

Is this /joshi/'s hottest new couple?
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>>2126988
Link me
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>>2128236
It's in the RH Archive, check OP
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>>2128205
>japanese ashton kutcher

kek
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>>2128863
Kodaka is an amazing wrestler and an absolute lad, shut the fuck up
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>>2128058
I'm not saying mine would, but you presumably know that every pleb list anyone makes will 100% have it at the top
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How is Konami going to feel when she gets deserted for WWE yet again?
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>based joshi photographer giving us a side view of /ourgirl/ hana in tights jeans

wew.
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>>2128205
>body looks like hamburger meat from all the death matches
>can still snag primo joshi booty
>and probably a ton of primo female fan booty
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>>2129005
Isami is pure
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Could she save the shitshow that is Women of Honor?
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>>2123567
>Dragon Gate is shit
Your existence is shit, nigga.
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Watching these great ARSION matches is depressing. Can't believe no other promotion hired Yoshida as a trainer. Her rookies looked fantastic almost immediately and the AJW girls she re-trained (who were mediocre at best in that promotion) became elite-level workers.
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>>2129005
Kairi has no ass what Joshi booty are you on about
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>>2129497
Your mom's.
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>>2126669
You're doing fine.
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>>2127718
>Mayu vs. Io at the top

If you're watching STARDOM, you're losing
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>>2129556
What are some better Stardom matches then?
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>>2128990
When the reality sets in that we won't see her till Spring
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>>2123403

Why doesn't Mayu wrestle with a mask?
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>>2129879
Because middle-aged men are paying to see beautiful hikki goddesses
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aoi kizuki:
>cosplayed as a literal chicken in a wave comedy match
>pinned kagetsu clean in oz hours later

what did joshi mean by this?
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>>2130220
nothing shes a comedy/whore undercarder
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>>2130220
>pinned kagetsu clean in oz hours later
jesus stardom's treatment of kagetsu was bad enough
when will my suave boy get his due
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>>2130256
>nothing shes a comedy/whore undercarder

Awful things to say about Kagetsu, don't you think?
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I just found my original Ibuki DVD's and the M's Style DVD Quest put out. Going to try and watch those this week.

Any one else collect original releases?
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>>2130627
I'm not familiar with M's Style?
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>>2130644
It was a short lived, 2 years, promotion founded by Momoe Nakanishi, AKINO and Mariko Yoshida.I'm not to sure about the full details, but at one point NJPW had some sort of involvement at one point or an other.

Momoe retired quickly after it started and Yoshida whent on to form Ibuki.
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>>2130680
>AKINO
>Yoshida
Guessing it was a lot more shoot-influenced?
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What did Minami mean by this?
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>>2130627
I wouldn't even know where to get original releases; all my stuff is just burned by the traders
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NEW THREAD:
>>2130722

>>2130722

>>2130722
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>>2130693

She's a dyke like a lot of AJW girls.
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