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/joshi/ General #3: The Future edition

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Last thread has hit the bump limit, bring on the jap wimminz

http://www.stardom-world.com - World Wonder Ring Stardom's own streaming network. Go here and hand over your yen monthly to see Kairi Hojo, Io Shirai, Mayu Iwatani, and terrible gaijins
http://pro-w-wave.com/wave_network - Pro Wrestling WAVE's streaming service. Uses the same setup as Stardom's, so if you've gave that one a go this one'll be easy to navigate despite being in moon. Feed ZABUN your money to see Misaki Ohata, Sumire Natsu, Yumi Ohka, and that one bald broad Sawako Shimono
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B5rK95X3mRiiX1lTUkFzaGRhaUU - this is the daddy. The RealHero Archive, packed full of enough puro and joshi to keep you going until you kill yourself before you're 30. The Joshi folder contains pretty much everything that's aired in 2016 as well as a lot of classic stuff, with more uploaded as it airs. Only things that don't get uploaded are promotions with their own networks, so no Stardom or WAVE for you. Have at it

Previous Thread: >>2085397

Who was the joshi MVP of 2016? Was it Io Shirai, as most people's go-to answer seems to be? Or was it Miyako like we all actually know
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It was Tsukushi

Stardom fucking sucks
JWP fucking sucks
Ice Ribbon rules
Gatoh Move good
OZ decent
SEADLINNNG meh
Sendai less than meh
TJP based as fuck
WAVE who cares
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(my girlfriend) maki natsumi
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>>2098265
koguma's likes are interesting. she genuinely cares about wrestling.

seadlinnng run when?
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>>2098275
>TJP based as fuck
Does TJP even air?
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>>2098280
she likes a lot of deathmatch stuff and blood covered people

cant wait for her to be taking barbwires bumps and bleed around like a pig in 2018
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>>2098280
Koguma is not a lesbian, Nanae has no interest in her.
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>>2098286
Mika Iwatahime is all about that shit too, she got a barbed wire bat for her 18th birthday. I'm glad all these young girls recognise that Japan's deathmatch wrestlers are far more charismatic than the regular dudes
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Kyoko's last year will be a wonderful one.
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>>2098294
2016 WAS her last year she's retiring next month
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maybe ueki is becoming a fulltime deathmatch guy because his gf thinks its hot as fuck
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>>2098294
Whos the hot bitch in black n red?
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>>2098304
shes 15
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>>2098304
my wife
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>>2098306
Idc. Who is that jailbait?
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moving into 2ch territory for a minute. this is from koguma's friend's account.

the one of the right has wrestler legs, hm...
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>>2098293
blood covered guys is such a big fetish with japanese girls (wrestling exemple: isami kodaka as a draw) that its statistically impossible that there is no blood fetishists in the joshi scene

risa sera is one too
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>>2098320
what is from 2ch
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>>2098320
forgot pic.
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>>2098322
basically joshi should just stick a "fu" in front of it and be done with it
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Never forget the most important tweet of the year, as it was a stark reminder of Io's influence on young, innocent girls:

おぼえてるかねー?
おととい?
えっちしたときバックでやっててけいちゃんだんだん動かなくなっていきなりぬいてわたしの足に発射してそのままこんどは正常位でやっておなかに発射!
2回連続で発射したんだお!
一回目中で出ちゃってぬいたのかとおもた!
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>>2098306
She was born in 97
>>2098312
Stardom rookie of the year, Hana Kimura
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>>2098280
Meanwhile best girl HZK likes Korean pop, K1- and RIZIN. Really makes you think.
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>>2098301
How many more titles does she have left to drop?
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>>2098346
she just wants to fuck takeru
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>>2098346
Don't forget Kelly Kelly. That one's important
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imagine how many men reo hazuki help reached orgasm rping as Kelly Kelly in her youth
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>>2098344
So 19? Cute.

Is there a list of girls below 18 working joshi?
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>>2098365
jaguar yokota.
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>>2098365
they are all in stardom at this point

no one is training little girls anymore there is the weird looking teenage lesbian in jwp too
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>>2098373
Why even lie about this?
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>>2098373
But lil girls are the only draws, everyone knows women age like milk post 30. Face wise i mean.
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>>2098382
KAORU is nearing 50 and still looks hot, fuck you
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>>2098377
name the non-teenage little girls working the other feds i will wait
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>>2098388
Nah looks like she gots downs.

Manic is gay.
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>>2098112
>The Kimuras don't associate with Nanae/Yoshiko
For Hana sake she will do it for her reputation and keep her family name strong. Yoshiko vs Hana fueds should be a doozy to watch.
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>>2098394
Ugly
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>>2098399
Say that to her face bitch and see what happens
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>>2098382
joshi offers the best mature women.

46 year-old shimoda is ripe and supple.
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>>2098389
Original dude didn't say little girls, he said girls under 18, which other feds outside Stardom have
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>>2098406
name them instead of playing semantics because i know everything there is to know and i can only name the stardom girls, the jwp lesbian kid and a bunch of girls who turned 18 this year
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>>2098408
Big Hoss Kurumi is 16
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stardom becoming the pedobait fed is is quite the turn
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>>2098410
kurumi is biologically an adult and as big as Aja Kong, age is a number
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>>2098414
Who knew that guy that catcalled when that one Stardom rookie - Arisu? - announced her age would influence so much
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>>2098403
I beat her ass and she enjoys it. Like every fucking women does. Women are wimps.

Joshi needs more sex appeal and angles to draw.

Nice try cuck.
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>>2098419
hahaha, ok you win. nice
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>>2098420
he didt cat call her he whistled in excitement
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Does anyone know who's Kyoko's opponent for her retirement match.

Is it gonna be Hana?
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>>2098405
Well they don't age bad as white women.
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>>2098425
not even trying to do jokes here, im still baffled from that months later, Kurumi is as big as Aja Kong
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>>2098426
sexual excitement
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>>2098422
Greg pls stop posting and take care of your Japanese ugly wife
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>>2098419
Not to mention, her fully adult girlfriend Akane "If she's 16, I'm 16" Fujita.
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>>2098427
Don't see it being anyone else, especially considering she hasn't put her over in a match since her debut.
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>>2098437
Nope hot women love it.

Cucks with the sluts and ugly women.
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>>2098438
kurumi is biologically a fat gay 18 years old boy
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tfw no joshi gf
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>>2098440
Well you look very, very ugly Greg, so yeah.
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>>2098445
Nah im sexy and not greg. Ur greg.

Stay mad manic.
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>>2098439
Do they do it in Stardom, JWP, or do another Kimura produce?
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Which company comes out top in bringing more Joshi in the US

Chikara, PWG, LU or etc?
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>>2098450
Her own produced show at Korakuen. Kyoko was never a draw so I wonder how that will turn out.
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>>2098459
kyoko pushing her shit daughter everywhere and not even being able to pop a number for a retirement show would be poetic justice
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>>2098458
Chikara
LU might have gotten the reddit-famous gif wrestlers but Quack's boys got to run a train on DASH
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>>2098464
catch point said they would teach her new holds then it quickly escalated to sex because jav is real
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>>2098463
>shit daughter
was Hana like Stardom rookie of the year for 2016

why you faggots shitting on her
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>>2098478
im gay feel no sexual attraction towards women and i can tell you objectively that hana kimura is an embarassing wrestler who wont ever be good because she wasnt trained by anyone worth anything she will show her ass in latex to stardom otakus, have a bunch of bad 6-man matches and retire in 2020 to marry some numale
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>>2098491
Sames. Im pedosexual and boob sexual.

If theyre fat or old yuck.
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>>2098405
Don't forget Takako Inoue and Mayumi Ozaki
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>>2098458
>PWG
Super Dragon trying to get that Joshi exposure isn't he?
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>>2098464
>>2098468
>sexualizing dash

how repugnant
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hana hasnt even had a good singles in her career much less a good standalone performance in stardom
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>>2098545
I'm just stating the facts bud, I don't like it either
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Sakura Hirota is proof that Chigusas lesbian brainwashing can be broken
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>>2098609
forgot my pic
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>>2098458
SHIMMER

Chikara's "Joshimania" was a financial disaster for Quack.
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>>2098344
More
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>>2098771
>SHIMMER
How the fuck do they stay afloat?
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>>2098771
Even shimmer has money problems now.
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>>2098832
They seem to always have the best talent. I never understood how they could afford it. Also with this women's tournament coming up I can see them losing a lot of talent
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>>2098811
@hanadayo0903
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pray
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>>2099121
Lois lane appeal.
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>>2098612
pregnant joshi pics gets me sexually excited
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>>2099788
the amazing thing is she's having TWINS
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>stardom becomes pedo bait fed, draws less
>teens btfo in ribbonmania semi-finals

is the kid era of joshi finally over?
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>>2099847
Give me the loliest Ice Ribbon cards to watch that are up on Realhero Drive or XWT
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>>2099876
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkxmx6XJakU
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>>2099905
What even is this?
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>>2099905
Hey it's Gatoh Move!
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>>2099930
little girls wrestling on mats in front of 7 people. it's every smark's dream is what it is.
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>>2099930
What Ice Ribbon was before Sakura left it to create Gatoh Move to do the same thing with it
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>>2099788
>tfw you want to see pregnant saori but also want her to continue having a promising career
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>>2099944
>>2099950
But.... why?
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I wonder when will my wife be on the OP pic
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>>2100038
The Spider Queen should be the next OP pic, bitch.
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>>2100076
>>2100038
Should be the woman who saved joshi desu
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>>2098263
>Who was the joshi MVP of 2016?
Kana:^)
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>>2100103
>yfw the Crazy Monkey hit that
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>>2100038
Never. She's forever cucked
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>>2099788
Phs
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>>2098263
>Joshi general
Based wew cucking asp
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>>2100103
miyako doesnt know shes fat its kawai
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>>2100105
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I'm never not going to be mad that Tank fucking Nagai is the man God chose to impregnate Mio
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>>2100201
any japanese wrestler is basically manlier and more desirable than the average japanese man

be happy you waifu didnt marry a numale like some others do
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>>2099964
no one understands how emi sakura's mind works. she's crazy.
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>>2098294
>Hana
wtf i love puberty now
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>>2098422
yoshiko and yoshikofag BTFO by based anon
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>>2100076
>>2100101
Have sex

>>2100195
CUTE!!
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>>2098422
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>>2100322
Nope you. Cuck boy.
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>>2100201
It's offical too..she just announced it on Twitter not too long ago
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>>2100511
She announced it at Ribbonmania as well I think
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when is「kotori」going to stop hiding her massive bosoms under tights bras and heavy clothing and realize boobs are the draw?
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true rookie of the year

hana kimura can go suck chihiro dickclit
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Happy new year you fucking virgins. I love you all. Yes, even mayufag and meiko spammer
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>>2101175
Calm down Chigusa
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momono vs chihiro in a battle of thighs.

who wins?
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>>2101536
Fuck I forgot my trip
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>>2101584
After training does Chigusa fuck her then yell at her, or yell first then fuck her?
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>>2101584
>still makes her rookies wear swim suits
Dammit Chigusa
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>>2101649
Why change what works?
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>>2101684
Because this isn't the 80s anymore and rookies should wrestle in schoolgirl uniforms instead.
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>>2101689
Chigusa is just doing what was done to her when she was a rookie
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>>2101689
New japan still had their young lions wear plain black trunks, even finish with the ol' Boston crab. I dig it as a way to spotlight the rookies before they establish their personalities.
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>>2101689
Not copying the 80s is why theyre not popular anymore.

Plus no national tv or old company operating.
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>>2098438
>calling your 16 y/o gf senpai

how lewd.
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>>2101702
>Not copying the 80s is why theyre not popular anymore.
I wonder if there's still a vibrant market for this kind of joshi. And the early-to-mid 90s AJW type of joshi. I miss the days of buzz cut battle dykes having stiff and brutal wars on a regular basis.
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>ywm get to spend New Years with Io
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>>2101788
You're supposed to be a heel, Io. You can't wish us a happy new year.
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>>2101733
What exactly is the context of a 29 year old woman calling a 16 year old girl 'senpai' for those of us not familiar with Japanese culture? Is she just trying to be cute? Is this her way of trying to be 16 herself again?
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>>2101803

Kurumi is technically her Sempai because she's been wrestling longer. It means "senior" but isn't relegated to age. So technically Riho is a senpai to half the active joshi wrestlers.
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>>2101803
Akane debuted in 2013 while Kurumi has been around for 6-7 years. So Kurumi is above her
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>>2101827
>>2101829
Ah okay I forgot that it extends beyond age.
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But does Senpai notice her? That's the important thing...
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Would anyone happen to have a link to ARSION Starlet '98? More specifically the main event from that card of Mikiko Futagami vs. Candy Okutsu? Kinda surprised how hard it is to find ARSION stuff online, but then again I guess there isn't much demand for a defunct joshi promotion that was niche as fuck to begin with. These fucking matches though have me hooked.
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>>2101798
I dunno if you've noticed but Stardom doesn't really seem to care about actually establishing any of Queen's Quest as heels
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>>2102297
Stardom was a mistake.
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>>2102303
You got that right brother
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>>2101702
putting dykes in swimsuits isn't a draw anymore, the schoolgirls that are interested in watching wrestling are fangirling over male bishi wrestlers instead.
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Is this the best champ in joshi?
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>>2102383
How do we get them interested in joshi again?
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>>2102447
You can't force that, the schoolgirl craze of the 80's was a pop-cultural fad, those come and go. It's not unlikely that the current pujoshi craze, which does alot for the male promotions, is also just a fad.

So basically, strenghten your (mostly male) core fanbase and hope that a new fad comes along.
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>>2102429
Sauce?
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>>2102484
Most of the male joshi fans these days seem only interested in watching mediocre idols wrestle though. Fucking thirsty ass virgins.
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>>2102492
yeah, but there'll always be tons of thirsty ass virgins in Japan, so you have a guaranteed core fanbase.
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>>2102500
But I'm tired of watching mediocre idols wrestle. Has the training become shitty for joshis or something? I mean I just watched a match from 98 between two cuties that would have been considered state of the art wrestling TODAY and neither of them were particularly physically gifted. They just worked their asses off in a very exciting style and both of them being cute was simply a nice bonus. Why aren't we seeing this on a regular basis in modern joshi?
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>>2102512
why work your ass off when 80% of the fanbase is just there to oggle at you? In the 90's the level of wrestling in Japan was higher in general, so you couldn't get away with it that easy.
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>>2102521
But if they were having these great matches on a regular basis while also being sex meat then I don't see how the fan base wouldn't grow bigger. Seems weird to me that AJW comes across as an anomaly almost with all the amazing wrestlers and matches they produced on a regular basis for years. I don't see why we can't have that again despite the core fan base mostly watching for sex appeal reasons.
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>>2102489
https://twitter.com/Shibukaho/status/815200403012911104
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>>2102484
Pro wrestling in japan was never cyclical. It declined when the tv died and pormotions died out.


People forget how big wrestling was on primetime in the 80's for japan. Even the 90's with it bigger attendences didn't match thise ratings.

It's a niche market that fails to get women in because it turns women off.
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>>2102572
>It's a niche market that fails to get women in because it turns women off.
There's plenty of female fans though, but they seem interested almost entirely in male wrestling. DDT and Dragon Gate especially seem to have large female fan bases.
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>>2102572
>It declined when the TV died
Why did the TV die if wrestling was booming, though?
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>>2102608
I think the Japanese economy dying is what ultimately caused the decline of pro-wrestling. People couldn't afford to go to these shows on a regular basis anymore and I guess networks couldn't afford to pay these promotions anymore to air their TV shows. There's also cases of mismanagement: AJW owners lost all their money in real estate and Inoki brought New Japan so low with his retarded Inokism he had to sell the company. And All Japan's exodus also caused that promotion to severely decline.
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>>2102297
After YEAREND CLIMAX, Queen's Quest are more like "kinda, sorta" heels like CHAOS in New Japan.
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>>2102584
Those fans are different, they want twinks. They could easily cut the workrate out of dg and they still would watch.
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>>2102654
I still see more women at BJW shows than I do at your average joshi card. In fact I'm still surprised at the amount of women that show up for a BJW card. They sure as fuck aren't pandering to either gender with sex appeal. Unless a decent number of Japanese women find beefy hoss wrestlers and scarred-to-shit death match warriors sexy, which I hope they do.
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>>2102664
Japanese women love bloodied up boys in anime and real life
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>>2102608
The lost decade is the 90's. Lets not forget we had clean finishes when most wrestling was dq or countout finishes. The rise of shoot. All that created a buzz. And Nwo Japan.

Njpw was moved to late night still getting 10.0 while ajpw was getting 4.0. Nowadays Njpw comes on 2 am to 3am start times.

They also never really ran toyko dome because it wasn't oppened until prime time wrestling was over.

Njpw still had the strength allure which kept most old fans watching.

Joshi workers still looked like their past selves but now out working the old eras.

Nowadays most feds excecpt Njpw are on satellite tv. Which is only in 15 percent of Japans households. Knowing satellite tv never really made it big as it over in the west.
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>>2102429
sup /jav/
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>>2102429
Damn. Hope mutoh makes a joshi company.
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>>2102676
>Nowadays most feds excecpt Njpw are on satellite tv. Which is only in 15 percent of Japans households. Knowing satellite tv never really made it big as it over in the west.
If a promotion, joshi or otherwise, managed to score a weekly show on network TV do you think it could become popular and successful from that alone?
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>>2102572
When I said you gotta hope for another fad to come around, I didn't mean to imply that history would repeat itself and something almost identical to the schoolgirl craze would be guaranteed to happen.

However, you can't rule out that there's the possibility that SOMETHING could happen that gets joshi some buzz again. It's hard to predict, especially with new media watching patterns and all that jazz, but there could be a new joshi fad at some point in the future, however that'd look like.

>>2102629
>Inoki brought New Japan so low with his retarded Inokism he had to sell the company

Inokiism didn't do shit in the bigger picture, the company was already starting to decline in the 90's, just like the rest of the scene. The issue wasn't the in-ring philosophy, but the refusal to scale down operations, since running that big time mainstream fed schedule with all those big arena shows wasn't possible anymore in the 00's (not unless you wanted to lose your ass, which NJPW did). You now had what felt like dozens of split-off groups competing with you, PRIDE and K-1 hogging all the mainstream attention, no more good TV and the post-bubble economy still being the shits.

NOAH had it somewhat figured out by running a more moderate schedule and only doing the Dome twice at their peak, but ultimately the product simply rested on the shoulders of two AJPW nostalgia draws.
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>>2102715
Did NOAH ever surpass New Japan as the number 1 promotion? I know the average wrestling fan saw NOAH as the go to promotion in terms of in-ring action, but I'm still unclear if New Japan sunk that low that another promotion took their spot.
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>>2102726
In toyko yes. But not out of it. Njpw was the draw outside of toyko.

Pride was the biggest thing for tv ratings at the time. While Hustle outdid all wrestling promotions tv ratings before it died and became crap.

4.0 tv rating outdoing Noah. Njpw tv ratings sank once they got brought out and dropped the strength appeal.

Bad booking in general is why the Inoki era failed and produced too much debt. Inoki would ask bookers to have his fighters to win over his wrestlers. And send wrestlers over to mma to expose the business.

Far different in the 90's where legit guys get booked to lose to wrestlers.
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>>2102726
You could make an argument that they were bigger in Tokyo in 2004 and especially 2005, based on attendance numbers. It's hard to know if they were really perceived as such though, if you consider that "NJPW #1" has been pretty ingrained in the minds of japanese wrestling fans, much like "NOAH and AJPW are major feds" is still ingrained in their minds today, even though that isn't the case from a business standpoint anymore.

And outside of Tokyo NJPW still was bigger. Osaka and the Kansai area as a whole has always been a NJPW hotbed and remained it even during that time (in relation to the rest of the scenes performance there). NOAH never really made much headway outside of it, one reason being that they didn't take over the old outside of Tokyo AJPW promoters.
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>>2102709
Yes. More appeal. Primetime would bring many eyeballs. A late night slot is ideal and cheaper too compared to primetime. Most network men don't want wrestling on their network.

Bushiroad advertising and getting more tv helped Njpw far more than the bookers ever did. They also make commericals for tv.

A finaical backer is ideal to get tv time on late nights or network. You have to pay them to be on it whereas Njpw gets paid to be on it.

Ntv dropped Noah when Noah couldn't afford it anymore and still can't. So they got sent to gtv which only shows 10 shows a year.
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>>2102744
>And send wrestlers over to mma to expose the business.
I could never figure out Inoki's end game from doing this. Was it to try and get exposure for New Japan from Pride fans? Did he actually think his wrestlers stood a chance? And my mind is completely blown out of my ass that Hustle had the best TV ratings at one point.
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>>2102715
Even if there's a fad it short term. Joshi always had a bulit in fanbase even in low periods. That's not the case anymore. Stardoms the only promotion in Japan that can really draw. Yet it's on the level of Bjpw not Njpw or even DragonGate.

Once the top orgs died it shrank more. Most fans won't watch another promotion and simply quit for good.
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>>2102762
Yup and he didn't care. Inoki very much had less control in Njpw 90's. When he came into power again, he very much seen Mma guys as the real guys.

The Njpw guys who won fights got pushed. While Nagata never really became the one to replace Shinya in peoples eyes.

Hustle had a very unique fighting opera take on wrestling. Mostly angles and character based. It wasn't a huge draw tour wise though. Lack of actual good wrestling. When they downplayed the non wrestling stuff it died.
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>>2102759
>Most network men don't want wrestling on their network.
I understand why that's true here in America since Vince and WWE has done everything in their power to make wrestling look as terrible as possible, but I thought pro-wrestling in Japan had a much better acceptance by the main stream.
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>>2102762
Strong Style, as it was originally thought of in NJPW, was the idea that Pro-Wrestlers were the strongest and thus had to prove that in (worked) fights against martial artists.

Hence Inoki vs. Ali and all the other Inoki different style fights and then Hashimoto continuing that tradition. It was what set NJPW apart from every other promotion and gave it an aura of legitimacy.

Now PRIDE and K-1 came along and claimed they were the feds with the best fighters in Japan. Now, from the outside and not knowing NJPWs history, this would make you think:"so what, they're fighting sports, this is Pro-Wrestling."

But this was Japan in the early 00's and NJPW guys have been viewed as actually legit and the strongest guys around by their fanbase (that doesn't mean the fans thought everything was real, but there was still the notion that a NJPW wrestler could kick-ass if it came to that point). If NJPW would've ignored the new MMA boom, fans would have jumped shipped anyway, much like fans left UWFi in droves when Takada initially refused to fight Rickson, it would've been viewed as cowardice.

Of course, Nagata vs. CroCop was a really, really dumb idea even under these circumstances and it only happened as an emergency booking to begin with. Originally it was Fujita vs. CroCop at the 2001 Inoki Bom Ba Ye show, but Fujita injured himself 3 weeks before the show. So Inoki approached Nagata (who won the G1 that year) to step in. The hope was that him being a amateur wrestler would be enough to beat a kickboxer, but well, we saw how that went.
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>>2102787
>While Nagata never really became the one to replace Shinya in peoples eyes.
Didn't help he got destroyed by Fedor and Cro Cop. Inoki was a real cocksucker doing that to Nagata.
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>>2102804
Nagata agreed to it, the blame was on him, too.
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>>2102789
They consider it otaku stuff. Plus Japan's love appeal for Njpw was based on Strong Style.

Black costumes, sport like production, fighting legit guys in a work and proving you're the strongest.

Legit armbars and limbwork and workling catch holds. Sometimes the armbars can end a match even you didn't work the body part. Human chess.

Current Njpw is American Style wrestling, not to be confused woth Sports-Entertainment but more like Nwa sans dq finishes and countouts being the norm.

Gedo and Jado likes the old American wrestling and so does Tana. Tana comsiders himself anti-strong style and Okada never mentions Strong style in his promos. The boys in the back want a American style promotion.

Strong style today just means who comes out of their dojos and a buzzword to label their workers.

The actual image and meaning it used to have exists in Igf and other feds like Rjpw and lesser Bjpw.

None are exactly like 90's Njpw which was super successful business wise, profit wises, attendance wise.

The bushiroad era is better business wise over
Yukes era, and isn't creating huge debts like the Inoki era.
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>>2102806
Knowing what kinda person Inoki is it probably would have been a bad idea for Nagata to decline. Putting your wrestler in that position in the first place is a piece of shit move any way you look at it.
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mayu tweeted a pic of her bare feet then quickly deleted it. i wonder if it was a mistake tweet. either way, i saved it before she did.
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>>2102825
>either way, i saved it before she did.
That's sad.
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>>2102819
You know Inoki personally to make that statement?

People weren't super smart about MMA back then, the idea that a wrestler would easily overcome a pure striker didn't seem far fetched. Add to that that a victory could've meant instant superstardom and I can see Nagata not having to be forced in any way into this.
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>>2102828
>You know Inoki personally to make that statement?
Yes I do. Where is your god now?

>People weren't super smart about MMA back then
In the 90s sure, but they were smart enough by the time a fighter like Cro Cop started kicking heads off. But I can definitely believe Inoki believed his wrestlers stood a chance against legitimate fighters.
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>>2102838
>Yes I do. Where is your god now?

In heaven, obviously
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>>2102828
Trained fighters beat wrestlers. Sending them to Mma was stupid considering none had actual training or time to to train.

He should just gave out big paydays for mma guys to lose but even they would probably say no.
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inoki hiring north korean officials to defend him on wrestling boards is an early contender for most disgusting promotional tactic of 2017.
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>>2102858
>Trained fighters beat wrestlers.

Fujita and Sakuraba were proof enough for promoters that that didn't have to be the case. It's always nice to act smart with the benefit of hindsight, but back then it wasn't as clear cut as it is now.
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>>2102873
Both are ok. But never meant to be aces of Njpw.

Sakuraba spent more time in shoot wrestling compared to pro-wrestling.

While Fujita left to stay in Mma. Only really wrestling in Igf which os a faux mma-pro wrestling company until 2017.

Inokism fed works better when it's smaller level.
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this reads like any wooo debates on inoki ever

i wonder who is the inoki-autist behind it
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So will Hotta be able to get bookings after embarrassing pro-wrestling in her mma fight
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>>2103256
she was already only working feds booked by her friends from the 80s-90s she will be fine
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>>2103155
I'm a proud Inoki worshipper, thank you very much.

On a related note, who will be the joshi that will end Gabis reign of terror and become the female Saku?
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>>2103304
jazz alpha female

deal with it
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>>2103256
now that hotta is a freelancer, she'll probably have a monster title run in jwp this year.
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Saori Anou will start training with Hikaru Sato and tap out Gabi in 2019 quote me
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syuri vs gabi will change the game
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>>2103309
honestly, if she spends the next months training striking it might be possible, Gabi has awful stand-up, so any half-way decent striker could fuck her up.

If that doesn't work out: Hiroyo (trains with the Pancrase boys), Nanae (is now getting active in Letwhei fights), Bito (has a legit high level Karate background, but Fedoraman probably wouldn't allow it), Chihiro (legit amateur background, she's a midget though, so a Miyu Yamamoto fetish fight would be the better option)

The future looks bright.
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>>2103378
>nanae in MMA

yeah ok
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>>2103421
bruh, she's a shooter now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DVymCoTneU
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>>2103442
Nah mma type.
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>>2103378
>>2103309
Everyone sleeping on BJJ enthusiast Alex Lee will be their downfall
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This RIZIN shit is a hotbed of organized crime.

I don't want any of my joshi being involved with such sleaze.
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>>2103461
joshi=/=sea creature
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>>2103461
There is a bigger chance that Yakuza are involved with Ice Ribbon or Stardom than with RIZIN
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>>2103474
>Koguma, Susa etc all left to avoid being sold into prostitution
It all makes sense
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>ywn be masa and hang out with and train cute girls 24/7
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>>2103523
but that means you are married to an old fat insane woman
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>>2103514
joshi is just a giant Yakuza front for soapland grooming. Yuhi is proof of that.
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>>2103537
I find Sakura to be cute and endearing. Works for me.
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>>2103670
old fat women who used to be pretty are the best girls my man
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>>2101788
I'd rather spend it with her
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>>2104138
LOL thinking Hojo likes men..
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>>2104344
She likes international men.
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>>2104138
>Hojo spilling her spaghetti when talking to a cute girl
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>>2102671
>Japanese women love bloodied up boys in anime and real life

Same with the men, I do hope Japanese women love to see their women beat the shit out another women and real life.
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>>2098771
Big question is will PWG start a Joshi Tournament soon. Can Super Dragon really trust Excalibur to make it happen to not fuck up his finances.
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>>2104551
Minoru should start dressing his age.
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>>2104357
Yeah, well then why was she getting lap dances from women strippers in Vegas during Cauliflower Alley thing? She's a Nanae toy rezu, sorry marks.
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>>2104695
dope narrative
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>>2104695
then why did she send me nudes, nigga?
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>>2104695
Because she loves America and wanted to get the full American experience.
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http://ameblo.jp/0929hazu/entry-12234414772.html

Do you think Koguma went with her?
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>>2104771
Hey, she was asked if she meant she wanted to see men and she said "no women." Plenty of people where at that Cauliflour event, just go ask them. The fucking PWI guys helped them find it.
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>>2105385
Oh and yeah Rossy got a lap dance too with Mayu watching. Hand to God.
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Hana Kimura is out of today's show with a wrist injury. So now this shitty rookie is going to be injury prone too, baka
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>>2105389
It's a fake injury, she knows she's about to get pinned to lose the trios titles, so she will conveniently miss a month. Top tier worker, brother.
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It pays to become one of the best wrestlers in joshi so soon after debuting. Poor Hana has been pushing herself too hard!

#Pray4Hana

/ourgirl/ will come back even stronger!
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>>2105447
What a huge nose that lass has
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>>2105451
fuck off
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Anyone going to the Pro Wrestling EVE show in London that has Meiko and Emi Sakura?
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>>2105509
The Scorpion Queen better kick a lot of ugly british gaijin whores in the face.
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>#saucy
What did she mean by this?
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>Yumi Fukawa vs. Michiko Omukai ARSION 4/11/98
>Candy Okutsu vs. Mikiko Futagami ARSION 4/17/98

I would love you faggots forever if you could find these two matches for me.
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>>2105548
Normie joshi fans are so weird.

Stardom was a mistake.
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>>2105641
>normie
joshi fans are literally all weirdos. including us
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>>2105628
http://new.ivpvideos2.com/product_info.php?products_id=12154
3 bucks
A lot of this shit you're going to have to go to the DVD sellers for, no other recourse
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>>2105663
I'd be a weirdo even if I wasn't into joshis, but I actually like them for their wrestling. Couldn't care less how sexy or ugly they are. But I guess that makes me the weirdo among the joshi weirdos.
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>>2105548
She sure did leak alot of "sauce"
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>>2105667
You buy it and upload the match for me. :3
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>>2105663
yeah, but the normie weirdos don't 'get' joshi. they don't understand and experience joshi in the way that pure people understand and experience joshi. you're only a true joshi fan if you can vigorously j/o to dump matsumoto matches; not because of her physical appearance, but because you can appreciate the work of a true artist and connect with them on another level.

you know what i mean?
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please do not tell me rabbit quit wrestling for this guy.
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>>2105838
Only if you suck me off, baby
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>>2105905
You make it sound like he isn't totally out of her league.
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>>2105909
apparently he's a fire fighter or something. all i know is that he's a selfish pig for not allowing his fiance to continue her career as a wrestler.
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>>2105909
rabbit miu is the prettiest girl in japan why dont you give me your address so i can find you and punch you in the mouth
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>>2105389
Hana Kimura started going into the lucrative joshi side-gig of 2000 yen handjobs
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>>2106014
Hana already has a lucrative career as an MMA ring girl that pays more than the average joshi. She doesn't need the money, anon. She wrestles because she loves the art form.
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>>2106045
this guy just said being a pancrase ringwhore is lucrative career

you keep outdoing yourself bishfan-kun
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>>2105905
god she's ugly
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>>2106178
Those buck teeth are adorable as fuck, pal
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>>2106178
shoot fight me right now you piece of shit
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How on god's green earth does this pasty sack of shit get to fuck Io Shirai every night
What is the secret
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What is Kris Wolf even doing in Stardom actually?
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>>2106400
Wrestling?
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>>2106050
Hana-chan is loaded, baby! Sponsors and clothing lines are ringing her up on the regular!

>>2106373
Don't let the Stardom makeover fool you. Io and NOSAWA were made for each other.
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>>2106373
Charisma, bad boy, degenercy.
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>>2106400
STARDOM would be a lot less fun with her not around, b. I'm glad she's there.
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>>2106480
>Io and NOSAWA were made for each other
Meaning what, exactly?
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>>2106780
they're both drug addicts?
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>>2106373
Some chicks are into wild guys and NOSAWA is wild as fuck.
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>>2106808
I guarantee there are far more upmarket drug addicts in Japan than NOSAWA
>>
Kikuzawa > Nosawa, just saying....
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>>2106818
Non one is as connected as Nosawa, no one.
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>>2106480
That tiger mask shirt is dope t b q h senpai
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kaoru ito is the best wrestler of all time heres an hot take for you fucks
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>>2106818
All women are fucking whores.
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>>2106915
You misspelled Tequila Saya.
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>>2107287
Where did the woman NOT touch you Anon? Show us on the doll.
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>>2107559
Only a fucking moron thinks women are good.
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>>2106915
she's not even the best overweight wrestler in diana
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>>2107573
im referring to her 1997-2002 run
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>>2107570
I think you meant to say "only a homosexual..."
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>>2104695
>>2105385
>>2105387
Sauce nigger
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My favorite period is early 2000's Gaea when Ozaki and KAROU would dress like sluts and hit people with chains and boards
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>>2109403
They still do that.
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>>2109101
PWI office. I said it.
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>>2109403
Nothing has changed there except they just don't do it in GAEA now
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Is Io vs Mayu at Year End Climax actually one of the best matches of the year or are people just memeing because muh best women in the world
>>
>>2109958
HARASHIMA, Ice Ribbon FREEDOMS and STARDOM main events are pretty much the highest quality of main event matches you will get in 2016 japanese wrestling
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>>2109960
>STARDOM main events are pretty much the highest quality of main event matches you will get in 2016 japanese wrestling
Not while Bito vs Blanchard exists, my brother
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>>2109958
It was a great match, but at no point did I think it was MOTY. But that was probably because I had been watching a bunch of AJW matches beforehand and that's not a fair comparison to make. It's still a great match.
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>>2109963
that whole show was shit, stardom was shit this year, but they still have incredible main events and tully blanchard coke baby cant change that
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>>2109967
I dunno I don't think their main events this year have been anything amazing. Maybe by current joshi standards but compared to other legit MOTYs nah. Hojo vs Shirai at the start of the year should have been up there but wasn't really, the earlier Mayu vs Io match was too short and Io's best match that I've seen happened in Sendai Girls
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>>2109958
It was a good match, but structurally I felt it wasn't all that different than what I've seen from those two before so I wasn't overly impressed by it. The result of the match was disappointing as well.

I thought Io/Bito was a much better Stardom main event.

Bito needs a singles belt run this year, desu. Give her the White Girl belt if you must, I don't give a fuck. I want to see more Bito singles matches.
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>>2107811
Fantastic stuff, I'm not sure if I'd say she was the best though. Yoshida, Kong, Kyoko and a few others were still great too during the same period.
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>>2110086
>tfw Yoshida Style never caught on
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What's some of Ayako Hamada's best work? Been really enjoying her in random Sendai Girls tags although I understand she put on a bunch of weight in more recent years and was moving better before it
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>>2110169
http://joshicity.com/joshi-match-recommendation/

Couple of her matches on there. Also her match against Michiko Omukai ARSION Starlight 2001 on 7/3/01 is really good.
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The state of Kagetsu in Stardom:
>Took the fall at year-end climax
>Went to a timeout draw with Momo
>Got pinned by Mayu on the same show
>Losing the Trios Belts later this week
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>>2110279
Everything about Kagetsu is better outside of Stardom. Better gear, better stable, better opponents, better matches...
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>>2110279
Rossy must pay her well for her to go along with all of this. Gotta keep Kimura and the Sumie Sakai strong, brother.
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Are hardcore Stardom fans the worst fans in joshi
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>>2110304
All joshi fans are the worst by default, since they're joshi fans.
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>>2110310
I feel like Stardom marks have the edge though. There's something inherently repugnant about seeing people praise this company as the best joshi promotion in the world when 99% of their shows are the drizzling shits
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>>2110317
well, that's not exclusive to Stardom, Ice Ribbon fans also give insane praise to their shitty fanservice fed. All joshi is fucking awful, really.
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>>2110323
I think a lot of Ice Ribbon fans online are doing it ironically
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>>2110323
fuck off
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>>2110329
I know atleast one person who is genuine about it. And then there are two other guys, but one is sitting behind so many layers of shitposting, it's impossible to get a grasp of his genuine feelings and the other one is a 13 year old confused black boy, so who knows how serious they are.

Oh, and then there's BiSHposter-kun, but he's pretty much a wrong opinion posting bot send from the future.
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>>2110323
Ice Ribbon is great. I can't believe what I'm reading. Might I ask what it is about IR, or joshi in general, that makes it so fucking awful?

>>2110337
>Oh, and then there's BiSHposter-kun, but he's pretty much a wrong opinion posting bot send from the future.

I'm one of the most reasonable joshi wota there is.
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saori is wearing this shirt ironically, right?

she would never actually enjoy normie idol groups, would she?
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>>2110359
>Might I ask what it is about IR, or joshi in general, that makes it so fucking awful?

choreographed through and through and lacks any greater meaning. It's pure nihilism.

Don't drag Kotori into this, she's a post-structuralist joshi and doesn't belong in this discussion.
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>>2110364
Wrestlers for the most part have terrible taste mate
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>>2110369
>choreographed through and through and lacks any greater meaning. It's pure nihilism.

I don't know what greater meaning you are expecting from pro wrestling. Entertainment media is supposed to bring you happiness; that is what pro wrestling was made for. It's pure escapism. In truth, what does anything mean? Basically.
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>>2110389
This is too deep a discussion for a joshi thread
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>>2110389
>In truth, what does anything mean?

You should follow up on this and deconstruct the feds you watch to get to their essence, this will bring you the necessary enlightenment to truly embrace post-structuralist wrestling.
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>>2110397
This picture seems impressive at first glance but that confused look is because she can't read
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io influence already showing
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>>2105447
MUH
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>>2110426
gooooooooood
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>>2110426
The continued corruption of young girls in joshi is disgraceful tbqh. I've half a mind to withdraw all support for the industry
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