https://vid.me/4Gn9
>>1766643
He was a orange manlet who thought he was a tough guy and once he got to the wwf was exposed for being an outlaw wrestling hack
>>1766651
This
>>1766651
He had some of the best t-bone suplex's in the business
Better form than Steiner
>>1766651
>getting booked like shit in McMahonLand proves somebody's bad
Quit bein' a fuckin' mark.
>>1766651
This
RVD slapped him backstage at ECW sand he didn't do anything kek
>>1766651
>once he debuted to a massive pop on WWE he was quickly burried because Vince didnt create that pop
FTFY
>>1766643
because he was shit. I remember back in the day hearing about how bad ass he was then I finally got to see him and he was an orange little midget man. It was a great disappointment. It was like when the nerds over hype one of them NXT Divas and then when they get called up they are shit just like every diva
>>1766678
>height is the sole determinant of a badass
'sup Vince
>>1766717
Wow he no sold a move, what a tough guy. Him and Ultimate Warrior are legit badasses
>>1766722
You don't even know what you're mad about, do you?
>>1766726
No man, he's a badass. He no sold a move
What's that? RVD told him to "pick a hand" and slapped him and he didn't do anything? Doesn't matter, he no sold a powerbomb
>>1766729
You're working yourself into a shoot, brudda.
>>1766732
Nah Taz worked himself by buying his gimmick, same thing happened to Goldberg
>>1766734
I fail to see how this makes him any less of a performer, which is what I assume you're mad about in the first place.
>>1766734
so you're shitting on Tazs whole gimmick based on a shoot interview that came out like 10 years after he retired? epic man
>>1766742
It makes me not take the gimmick serious at all, imagine Mark Hunt knocked out Lesnar in 30 seconds and then Brock came back with the same gimmick. People wouldn't take it serious.
I take it even less serious when he got BTFO'd by a laid back stoner
>>1766746
Yes
At least before I thought there was an element of him being a badass somewhere in there, the same with Goldberg. Now their matches are like comedy to me
>>1766755
that's quite pathetic that you can't tell fiction from reality honestly
>>1766746
Pretty sure this is some Google babby
>>1766757
There's a difference between a normal gimmick and legit tough guy gimmicks. Ken Shamrock for example, you knew he was tough. With Taz I just have it in the back of my head whenever I see him that a laid back stoner slapped him and he didn't do anything
Him crying about The Rock on his podcast this year doesn't help much either
>>1766750
you do realize he literally lost his last 2 fights in UFC and came in like this and never stopped
https://youtu.be/fDnx_4WyRnQ?t=90
>>1766755
>watching pro wrestling for legit badasses
What a mark.
>>1766765
Diverticulitis my man
Taz belived him gimmick and actually thought he was tough. RVD bitch slapped him and then the entire locker room lost their respect for Taz. Vince quickly learned the same and thats why his push was gone quickly and he went to curtain jerking and then to being a commentator
>>1766769
Yes, but a lot of them weren't booked with the legit badass/tough guy gimmick. There's a difference between Taz and Goldberg getting BTFO'd by a stoner and a manlet and DDP getting beat up by Steiner
>>1766770
>Vince knowing about obscure ECW locker room story
[X] Doubt
>>1766779
Word gets around fast
Look how fast Vince lost respect for Morrison and how fast he gained respect for Kofi when he stood up to him on a plane
>>1766776
Please tell me you're a fan of Shibata
I need this
>>1766776
Jericho didnt BTFO jewberg tho
He literally got lucky with a headlock and choked him then held on for dear life. Faggot way to fight, would have been more honourable to get knocked out
>>1766784
I don't watch New Japan but did he get BTFO'd?
I know Sakuraba did well, has a win over Rampage
>>1766787
You're forgetting that cringe your mom joke he said right at the end
>>1766781
???
>>1766791
Huh
What was it
>>1766802
He lost respect for Morrison when he got cucked and did nothing
The Vince/Kofi is in Jericho 2nd or third book. I'm on my phone but the jist is Vince was telling him shit like he's a jobber and he'll never get over and Kofi just ignored him. Jericho told him this is Vince's way of testing people and if he didn't do anything he'd be finished so Kofi stood up to him and they got into a mini grappling match
>>1766781
>comparing incidents that happened in Vince's own company to a backstage incident in a company Vince didn't even watch
Just how fucking dumb are you?
>>1766805
Jericho called him a goof then Goldberg yelled back YOUR MOTHER IS A FUCKING GOOF. Booker t was there and couldn't believe his ears
>>1766811
no I was questioning your retarded point, some pointless story where much more interesting things occured in a company Vince would really have no business knowing backstage about and you replied with something that happened while both were working for him in an age where shit like this becomes well known within weeks, do you realize how dumb you sound?
>>1766815
You don't think he wouldn't have heard from the boys? There were ex ECW people in the company or talent that had friends there. Someone in his circle could have heard about it and told him. It makes sense seeing how he went from fighting HHH to being a jobber
>>1766822
expect this shit about taz you keep going back to only came out in a shoot interview a decade later you retard, how on earth do you work a computer
>>1766826
Yes, I'm sure everyone kept silent in the back and didn't talk about it out of respect for Tazz lmao. Word got to him and that was it
>>1766827
yeah, I'm sure he retired not because of the massive injuries he got in ECW but because Vince found out about a backstage incident in ECW
>>1766832
>retired
Who said that? I'm talking about how he went from facing HHH for the title and looking competitive to being a jobber
>>1766827
vince is notorious for burying anything he didnt make popular
>>1766834
He didn't watch the show but that doesn't mean word didn't get to him about shit that happened
>>1766836
Tazz was a footnote though compared to other people who got the shit end of the stick. He got huge reactions in NYC and Philly yes but not much else, it wasn't a Sting thing where "haha this is the last guy I didn't fuck over from WCW, here I go"
>>1766841
he literally buried almost every single WCW/ECW guy that came in post buyouts, why do you have this completely unfounded belief that it must be because of a single backstage incident that didnt come out til over a decade later as op[posed to Vince simply doing what he did with everyone, I'm genuinely curious what such an irrelevant person like Taz has done to you for you to go full tin foil like this
>>1766841
Still with those little hypotheticals?
The depth of your self-delusion is impressive, I'll give you that.
>>1766850
Because of how petty Vince is, if he hears one incident of you not being a man your career there is done
And the majority of those WCW/ECW guys were filler and booked like shit from the start. Like I said, Taz had a match with HHH for the belt and turned into a jobber almost out of no where
>>1766852
>no argument
Ok
I haven't received an answer why he looked strong against the world
champion to getting pushed down the card for apperently no reason
>>1766853
>Because of how petty Vince is, if he hears one incident of you not being a man your career there is done
I take it you've never heard the Patterson/Angle/HHH story
>>1766853
and Scott Steiner had a series of matches with him while hurt and then went straight to feuding with Test, I guess Vince found out he sleeps with a teddy bear?
>>1766861
Patterson telling HHH to fight Angle and HHH backed out right? I mean HHH had the leverage of dating his daughter, Tazz had nothing
>>1766857
>logic in Vince booking
Taz got to the WWF too late, he was busted and broken down.
>>1766862
Story with that from Steiner is that he was told to take a drug test and gen replied "I will if Triple H does too", can't imagine that went over well
>>1766867
>leverage
Wherein you make excuses for your reasoning not holding water.
>>1766868
I agree but he ended Angles undefeated streak, basically squashed him and then had a competitive match vs the world champ
I just think something happened after to drop Tazz so far down
>>1766874
I haven't received a reply yet besides "Vince can't book", equally as reasonable as word getting to Vince that Tazz got punked backstage and wasn't what he was hyped as
>>1766879
there are multiple examples of Vince not booking WCW/ECW stars well whereas you're claim is based on absolutely nothing, even on Tazzs fucking wikipedia page Vince said he regrets booking Taz to lose to Triple H
>>1766879
Except for the literal decades of evidence that Vince can't into booking, instead of your speculation that's retroactive-at-best.
>Vince giving a shit about legitimacy
>pushed HBK to the Moon
>>1766882
Exactly, he held him in high regard at one point then he just fell off flr no reason, what happened?
And the majority of the WCW/ECW guys who came in during that era were not booked nearly as strong as Taz was when he arrived. It's not like Tazz showed up and was dead on arrival like them
>>1766884
HBK was a product of the fallout from the steroid trial, Diesel even said for example he was only pushed because he was a big guy who wasn't on the juice
>>1766888
Are you dumb or do you just really dislike Tazz or something, I can't imagine anyone coming to the same conclusion as you are without being either of the two
>>1766899
>resorting to insults
Kek
And no Tazz doesn't mean much to me, the last I thought about him before this was when him and Rock had a mini feud on twitter
>>1766902
Multiple people have been telling you that it makes absolutely no sense and you're just completely hung up on a fucking 2 minute bit of a shoot interview that came out years after, it makes absolutely no logical sense why this would be the conclusion you come to
>>1766907
It's just you and one other guy until man, look at the amount of unique ips, hasn't changed for quite awhile
I'm basing My argument on Vince losing respect easily for his talent and how word can travel around fast backstage, there's no way a story like that was just kept quiet until New Jack talked about it. You are basing yours on Vince being a bad booker, that is another side of it. Both make sense to me, but Tazz receiving such a huge push and then losing it so fast makes me think something happened
>>1766912
It's just the idea that you think Vince was asking New Jack and RVD for any backstage gossip that is completely stupefying as opposed to bad booking which was a common reason
>>1766894
OK, now explain why Batista got pushed despite getting his ass beat by Booker T.
How many "exceptions" do you need to be presented with before you realise that hey, maybe you're not right on this?
>Diesel
D I S C A R D E D
>>1766912
2 is a multiple and it's double on your position, thicko.
>>1766934
Batista actually fought him though, he just lost. Different from Taz not doing anything
And yes Nash is a hack but it makes sense because lord knows there was nothing else going for him
>>1766935
Yes it is