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From a mid-card standpoint, this is a potential great match that

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From a mid-card standpoint, this is a potential great match that shows off underused guys with a lot of talent.
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>great match
>Ryder, Botch Cara, Shitdust, Zigglypuff

'no'
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>>1097181
Ryder is talented, he just got buried because he got himself over
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Who's winning and getting a push?
inb4 fat owens fat retains
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>>1097188
Realistically?
Sami or Owens
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Obviously Sami is going to get it
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>underused
>zigshit
>the miz

nigga you what
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>>1097181
Kalisto is a flippy guy so he can thrive in the match
Stardust did good last year
Ryder is bretty good
Ziggler is solid as well
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>>1097204
Technically The Miz barely wrestles
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>>1097181
you forgot The Shiz
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>>1097188
I hope the arab dude with the stupid theme won't win he sucks
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>>1097205
>Kalisto
wrong one

although i think the US title would have been a better ladder match and just have KO vs zayn for the IC title
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>>1097216
>Careful not to fall for the bait
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>>1097181
>Botch Cara
but this isn't Botch Cara, that was old Sin Cara, this one doesn't botch nearly as much
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>>1097178
>finally getting to hear Oh radio at Wrestlemania.

I cant believe how happy I am for him
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>>1097223
They botched not showing his landing in his entrance on raw
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>>1097178
Hyped for my boy Stardust
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Who's dick did zack suck to get a match at mania?
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Nah, it's shit.

Owens is the only one anybody likes at all.

Injuries really fucked them this year, they have almost no one.
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>yfw Miz actually wins the title and then feuds with KO over it
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>>1097230
neville
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>>1097178
The miz is so fucking under rated.
But really Zack and sin cara? Those guys actually belong jobbing.
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>>1097178
That's a really shitty zack ryder pic on there
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>>1097240
with the current state of the roster, they should really be using the miz as a top heel right now.
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>>1097230
Neville got injured
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>They removed the eyes on the Sin Cara mask
Finally
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>>1097237
>>1097279
I'd say that's more Sin Cara's benefit than Ryder if they wanted to replace Neville with another flippy guy.
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>>1097243
>my first appearance on RAW since Bryan's retirement?
>an actual match with two guys on the main card?
>and a seven way ladder match for the real IC title?
>things are lookin up for the broski
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>post yfw Ryder wins
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>>1097284
Hopefully that helps but it does kinda look stupid.
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>>1097343
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>>1097343
Fuck Zach Ryder and his stupid tag team.
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>>1097343
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>>1097343
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>>1097343
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>>1097178
It's an unoriginal carbon copy of last years IC match. It should be okay, but Owens should have a more legit match and not a "let's put everyone on Wrestlemania" match.
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>>1097178

It's weird that Ryder got in this match before Tyler Breeze.

Breeze was part of the fatal 5-way where Owens won the belt, same as Stardust. I know he's flopped on the main roster, but a large multiman match like this is the perfect way to give his character exposure without having to commit an entire match to him.

So Tyler is certainly an entrant in the AtGMBR. He's not gonna win, but what are his chances at a strong showing?
>Knocks out Fandango for that Superstars heat
>Maybe knocks out Mark Henry in his last Mania for cheap heat
>Gets thrown over the ropes by El Torito
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>>1097379

They should have added Breeze and made it an 8-man ladder match.
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>>1097379
>>1097397
Breeze is gonna be in the Andre Rumble
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>>1097379
>He's not gonna win, but what are his chances at a strong showing?
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They have nothing planned for this guy going forward.

Only reason ryder got in the ladder match was because neville was injured and they needed a replacement. Why it wasn't Breeze, who knows. They probably had him booked for the battle royale though, which, if true, makes me think they probably had nothing booked for Ryder at all
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>>1097399

Ya don't say???????????
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>>1097399
Don't know what happened to the rest of my post. Breeze is gonna be in the Andre Rumble Top 4
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>>1097178
Cara should be subbed out for Breeze because Cara's shit.
Other than that I can validate everyone.

>>1097188
Sami shouldn't win the belt form his long-term rival in a multi-man match after a month's build.
KO should retain.
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>yfw Stardust wins and reverts back to Cody
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>>1097408
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>>1097406

>Sami wins
>Begin to dive into Owens and Zayn's history during the rematch feud
>Cut promos playing up Zayn's Cenaesque babyface persona
>Talk a lot about how the power of believing in himself got him where he is
>Owens is pissed because he didn't lose the belt in a 1v1 maych
>Payback arrives
>Owens wins clean. kill your fucking heroes
>Bitter and confused Zayn fucks off for a few weeks to go find himself
>Returns for rematch clause
>"I Quit" match at Extreme Rules
>Zayn is convinced his strength of will can overcome Owens' brutality
>Zayn fucking loses, go cry harder moralfags
>Zayn heel turn
>Zayn picks up the USA belt
>Champion vs Champion
>Zayn fucking loses

There's nothing for an underdog character like Zayn to do once they get to the top, so don't let him. Look at how shitty Bayley has been as champ. Look how quickly Sandow's crowd reactions died out once he got to be a cocky babyface for a month.

If WWE is smart, Zayn will never beat Owens.
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I just hope anyone but Ziggler wins it
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>Le multiman spotfest ladder match
>showcasing talent

Please fucking kill yourself you probably thought ko matches without cena are good
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>>1097425
Quit while you're behind.
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>>1097427
Go to bed, Hunter
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>>1097425
Why unify the belts though?
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>>1097178
Zack finally gonna get his mania moment
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>>1097425
> Bayley has been a shit champ
No, Bayley is fantastic.
Champion Bayley is like Cena Open Challange. She's a great champion because she makes her opponent look strong even if she wins. In her last 3 feuds she made:
> Gave Sasha opportunity to showcase her heel work and in ring ability resulting in a match of the year
> Sold Nia Jax's offensive abilities, cementing her as a threat without just feeding her more jobbers
> Carmella a respectable opponent ready for a main roster call up, first female face vs face feud that functioned.
She is a fantastic champ that pushes merch, is a hit with all audiences and has great ring work.
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>>1097224
WWWYKI bro. Me too.

Ryder has been really good in NXT, and I'm glad he's getting a Wrestlemania spot. I'll mark for sure.
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>>1097343
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>>1097425

Dipshit, if the underdog never wins, people will get tired of hoping and just quit caring.

There's a balance between Cena's version of "underdog" that wins every goddamn match, and how they mismanage Reigns by having him get beaten up all the goddamn time
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>>1097499
She's okay.
Little bland, but okay.
Pretty much indicative of NXT under her reign.
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>>1097599

The biggest problem is they've kind of taken away what made Bayley be Bayley. She's no longer a half retarded goober that loves wrestling and is some sort of idiot savant that actually has her marbles collected in the ring. She's turning into just another Media Friendly Corporate Babyface with very little in the way of actual character.
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>>1097343
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>>1097188
Since Owens vs Zayn will likely be the rivalry in the PPVs going forward, the safe bet is one of them. I'm leaning towards Owens.
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>>1097188
>>1097607
Owens should win and retain his IC Belt again at the subsequent PPV after Mania in a match with Sami whilst not directly pinning Sami, but not doing fuckery that would give Sami an easy in to the feud at a later date.
Maybe another multi-man match?
Just some shit to keep tensions high, not give a final loss to Sami, but still keep him over as the underdog.
Like:
>KO retains at Mania
>KO vs Ziggler vs Zayn at ER
>KO pins Ziggler
>Zayn gets side-tracked with someone else
>has to resolve that, KO goes on being IC Champ and intermittently fucking with Sami
>Sami gets final vengeance at SS
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