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Why were The Shield so much more successful than The Nexus post

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Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns have all gone onto become top stars in the company.

Only Daniel Bryan of the Nexus has had similar success, and he was only part of it for one night so I doubt he even counts.

The Nexus had a lot of talented members, but all of them have either left the company or been relegated to jobber status.

I think Barrett has world champion potential. He has the size, the in ring ability and is great on the mic. But he is about to leave the company a failure.

Ryback has been up and down but he seems pretty directionless at the moment.

Justin Gabriel was great but wasn't even given a chance to be a Neville/Kalisto type of high flying crowd pleaser, a role he definitely could have played. But instead he is gone from the company.

Heath Slater has become a professional jobber, David Otunga is never even on TV and he more of a commentator/host now, Michael Tarver was fired, Darren Young was part of a pretty unsuccessful tag team and is nowhere to be seen these days...

How come these two groups which had very similar concepts have had such varying levels of success?
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Simple

1. The SHIELD was a 3 man band and planned to get the huge push from the get go, the Nexus was thrown together at the last second

2. The SHIELD had that badass entrance and gear, the Nexus had generic green Ns

3. BMJ and Orton
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Because the Nexus all looked like jobbers. Except Barrett who is too injury prone to push properly.

The Shield had way better matches and looked better and were more over and were booked better.
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>>1067331
Because Triple H sees The Shield as his project whereas the Nexus was a pre-HHH NXT product
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Bray Wyatt was Husky Harris, but even so the Shield was still far more successful.
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>>1067331
Cena didn't beat the Shield almost singlehandedly at Summerslam despite the protests of Edge, Jericho, Hayes, and Triple H.

BMJ went over and buried them in a night.

To be fair, John regrets doing it.
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>>1067373
>Cena didn't beat the Shield almost singlehandedly
No, but Punk did
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>>1067337
>Because the Nexus all looked like jobbers.

What look does a jobber have exactly?

>Except Barrett who is too injury prone to push properly.

He was injury-free for his first 2 years and only hurt his arm when he was catching Ziggler after Big Show recklessly threw him out
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>>1067331
Because Cena buried the fuck out of all of them.

>Barrett
Decent guy, could have been a main event guy, but can't stay healthy.

>Ryback (Skip Sheffield)
Okay talent, but nothing more than midcarder

>Slater
Career jobber.
>Tarver
Good look, best member on the mic. Couldn't wrestle. Said some bad shit about Cena, and it got him fired.

>Darren Young
Had an okay tag team push, probably will be released soon.

>Justin Gabriel
Solid worker, but had little charisma. Being small and not American had him doomed from the start

>David Otunga
Least talented member of the group, but also only started wrestling. Good look and gimmick, had potential if given ring time. But ended up being a part of the wwe legal team.
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>>1067331
Because The Shield were the strongest booked new faction in WWE's history, they ran roughshod over the entire locker room for a year, routinely beating teams of the very top stars, solidifying them as huge threats that people should care about.
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>>1067331
Nexus only existed to put Cena over. Shield is Haitch's pet project.
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>>1067376
Wasn't his choice, it was creative's
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>>1067376
Punk actually wanted to put them over
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>>1067356

kek

Shield as-is was more of Punk's idea than Haitch's. I think it's the Cabana podcast he talks about it - wanting to bring in three new guys, rather than two veterans and a new guy

Nexus was an amazing storyline, but it couldn't launch anyone to success, because as >>1067337 said, they did all have kind of a jobber look. Physically, they were all just bland. You need physical braun, plus some charisma. They all just looked too plain. Back in the day, you'd develop a character/persona in the territories. Now, they just bring people in and don't develop who they are. That's not to say they never could have had that, they just didn't as they were.

A stable really needs to be a vehicle for someone special
The Nation of Domination spit out The Rock
The Brood -> E&C
DX -> Triple H (after Shawn left)
Evolution-> Orton and somewhat Batista
Legacy -> Cody Rhodes
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The Shield was the bridge for future top stars, Nexus were just Spirit Squad 2.0 but slightly more successful.

Even if Dean became Deanetty the Shield coughed up the new Cena and Orton of this era.
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>>1067335
>Green

Son, do you know you're colorblind?
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>>1071742
All Punk did was come up with the idea that all would be new guys from developmental and pick two of the three (guess which). I guess that is the core idea of the Shield, they were really just that + strong booking.
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because The Nexus is a stupid name that nobody could take seriously
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no one in nexus with the exception of barrett gave the impression of being a future top guy. doing nothing to seperate you from the other dozen wrestlers they could've picked from in nxt/fcw didn't help their case either.

>skip sheffield

>darren young

>heath slater

>michael tarver

>otunga

>gabriel

none of those guys had anything special like bryan and barrett had that separated them from the group.

with the shield, seth/dean were already really talented, and while roman wasn't, he still gave off the impression of being a badass by not talking much and just spearing people.
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>>1071824
>he still gave off the impression of being a badass by not talking much and just spearing people

I wish he'd go back to doing this.
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>>1067331
>The Nexus had a lot of talented members
Is this a joke?
>Ryback has been up and down but he seems pretty directionless at the moment.
Oh so you are joking.
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Simple Less is more, Shield were 3 guys with diverse personalities.

Nexus was a group, making it hard for most of the members to get much focus, except for Wade Barrett. Kind of like NWO beyond the upper card guys like Konnan, Hall, Hogal, Stiener, Nash etc.
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I'd like to see a Nexus reunion for a second Barrett push. Who am I kidding, I just really like their theme song.
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>>1072122
WE WALK ALONE
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>>1072125
IN THE UNKNOWN

I wish they reused it for the Shield. Shield's theme isn't even that iconic, it's just generic trash like most NXT's and ex-NXT's songs.
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What happened to the Genesis of McGillicutty?
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>>1072134
>Shield's theme isn't even that iconic
have sex
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>>1071742
The Nexus pushed Punk to main event.

>muh one week championship he didn't even lose in a match
>muh gay edge
>muh E C Dub

Irrelevant. He was a mid-carder up until he took over Nexus and went on a rivalry with Cena. Plus it's when his mic skills really shined.

Reminder that Punk wore Nexus shirts in WWE promo material and matches up until MITB, and even at MITB they listed him as apart of the Nexus.
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>>1072134
Yeah it's pretty crap. Still better than Roman's, which managed to make it even more generic somehow.
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>one are a group of jobbers made constructed purely to put over one Man

>the other are a group created to form three top-flight stars for the company to use in the future

Are you this fucking dumb, OP?
Nexus are more relatable to the League of Nations than the Shield.
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>>1067376
It's in the execution and the storytelling.
Cena beat the Nexus by Being Cena and made them all look weak. Punk on the other hand; outsmarted them, got lucky and legitimately made Reigns look strong as fuck. And if I'm not mistaken, The Shield got their win back. The Nexus didn't.
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>>1072176
"We want you to go over...but you gotta make Roman look STRONG" - WWE Creative.
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>>1071827
Agree... Roman was much better that way
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>>1072142
Oh god no, for fuck's sake! That must stay gone! Curtis is so fucking boring, I don't see shit in him that makes him interesting, to be honest...
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>>1072154
>Leage of Nation
That's the dumbest shit WWE has ever made
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poor barret deserved better btw, that nextel logo was fuckin stupid.
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>>1067331
barrett and DB couldnt stay healthy

everybody else in the nexus sucks
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>>1067331
They didn't have 50/50 booking and all had pretty heavy pandering post Shield outside of Ambrose.

Barely anyone on the roster has had the most opportunities Rollins had during his reign. He's average on the mic but he was given a horrendous amount of time despite that since he had the authority to back him up. Reigns even more so. Essentially both of those 2 were just the pet projects of Haitch and Vince respectively.

Ambrose well we know what's happening with him.

Just look at the other stable that was as hot as them, if not maybe hotter at times, the Wyatts. Look at how shit they are now because of poor booking which in turns makes Bray's promos absolute shit because no matter what cryptic shit he may rant on about, he doesn't even pose to be that much of a threat at the end since he ends up losing majority of the feuds
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Nexus appeared at a bad time in terms of getting new guys over
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>>1079808

Seth is a durable workhorse. That's why.

Bryan was perpetually getting hurt. Reigns can't get over enough to take the final step towards carrying the company. Cena is getting older and probably needs a reduction in his workload, plus they decided to use him to put the United States Championship over. Dean would have been a solid alternative to Seth, but also doesn't work as hard as Seth.

At the time Seth had his freak knee injury, Seth had worked more matches than anyone else in the company. He had 40 more matches than Cena, the second hardest worker on the roster. Then add Seth's fitness and conditioning work, public appearances, and his reputation as a "first to show up, last to leave" kind of guy.

It's the same reason Bret and HBK got the push in the New Generation era. They weren't megastar material, but they were dependable, durable, and hard working. Like HBK and Bret, Seth is the safe and dependable choice in an era where there are no great choices.
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>>1077932
Bryan vacating the WWE WHC was the first time he'd taken off for injury in WWE
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>>1079847
>He had 40 more matches than Cena, the second hardest worker on the roster
Based A+ player
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>>1079847
>It's the same reason Bret and HBK got the push in the New Generation era. They weren't megastar material,

Bret is open for debate but in what universe is HBK not megastar material?
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>>1081758

In the universe before DX. Shawn wasn't a true star until the Attitude Era.
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>>1081757

This is why it's bullshit when people shitpost about the A+ player being injury prone. He lapped everyone else in terms of the sheer number of matches worked.
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>>1072145
You have sex. He's right.
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>>1081758
kek

They are literally two sides of the same coin
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>the shield
>successful

Record low ratings
Jasethy
Deanetty
And Roman getting fucked by booking. Wow so good
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>>1072122
Only guys left in the company is Wade and Slater. I guess you can count Ryback, even though WWE tried to pretend he was a different guy when he debuted as Ryback.


>won best newcomer at the slammys
>even though he was with the company for like 2 years prior
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>>1082956
bray was in the nexus too with a different gimmick
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>>1082834

This. In the great Bret vs. HBK debate, the correct answers are "both" and/or "neither".
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>>1073489
THE CHAINS


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