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>This is the average Whatculture viewer
Makes sense tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SemnSaRvB4I
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So the average /wwe/ poster?
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>>1852822
>25 seconds

What the fuck
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I want that haircut. Anyone got the name of it?

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Was The Streak ended because Brock was damaged goods?

>Comes in, loses to Cena
>Cena says he's "going to go away for awhile" to sell the beating, misses a week
>Year long HHH feud which was extremely boring. Brock didn't even beat him clean in either of his wins
>Punk feud that ended in a good match but the build up was dumb. It was more Punk/Heyman than Punk/Lesnar
>Filler Mark Henry matches
>Filler Big Show feud ending in a 4 minute match

At that point Vince must have realized that Lesnar simply wasn't worth the amount he was being paid, and he needed something big. Lesnar was so fucked at that point that I remember reading some reactions of The Streak ending where people said they were either on their phone during the finish or skipped the match entirely because of a combination of not giving a fuck about Brock anymore and thinking there's no way Taker could lose with the way Brock was booked. I think if Brock was used better pre-streak, it wouldn't have happened
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It was done because Taker didn't think he would be able to wrestle in 2015, per Meltz, not because Lesnar was particularly the perfect choice or anything
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Apparently it was decided by Vince on a whim the day of.
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>>1852814
Vince wanted to set up Brock as a monster that destroyed everything in his path then have Roman come in and conquer him, becoming the face of the company in the process.

But no, you fat smarks had to ruin it because you booed Roman because he wasn't a manlet with a beard that did a stupid chant.

Why did this trigger the smarks so badly?
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because it just confirms this era of wrestling is nothing compared to the late 90s
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neo-rock fucking sucks
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Because it was fucking stupid, accomplished nothing and only made everybody else look bad.

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>Build around based Haitch
>big money feuds with Cena, Batista, HBK
>other show is left with Undercarder main eventing against a cuck like Angle
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>>1852755
Why is countering in these games so difficult?
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>>1852977
If you couldn't reverse every single attack in 07 I don't know what to tell you
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>>1852755
I remember building up my WHC Stone Cold vs Triple H legend killer feud that has 3 thumbs up and was a massive draw to smackdown only to be told at Wrestlemania that Stone Cold wasn't in contention for the title. My 12 year old self silently cried in my room for 10 minutes.

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Women's wrestling
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>>1852691
The Horse Collar
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>state of that resolution

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Who else marked out because he thought Big Poppa Pump was going to come out at that moment
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>>1852508
Someone please post the AJ STYLES Curt Hawkins fact meme
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>>1852508
>45 seconds promo

>already more heat than fatass "heel" kevin lowens
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>>1852508
Is he really that BASED?

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>Okada vs. Marufuji
>Omega vs. Goto
>Briscoes vs. GOD
>Bucks vs. Ricochet/Finlay
>NOAH vs. NJPW

NJPW World Japanese commentary:

NJPW World English commentary

Taima: http://taima.tv/
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English commentary: http://njpwworld.com/lp/l_enlive_76_2

Japanese Commentary: http://njpwworld.com/lp/l_live_75_2
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NEVER Title is pretty much the only match with real intrigue.
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How often do NJPW run pay per views? I swear there was one like 2 weeks ago

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Intelligent, nihilistic, with a wicked sense of humor.
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Who ultimately meant more for the business?

I lean Nash.
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NWO drew more dimes than everything Jericho did in his entire career
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>>1852416
Nash did a lot of big things, Jericho had some nice runs but Nash wins
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Nash had more of an effect: a negative effect.

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Dave Meltzer on Hulk Hogan's drawing power

>Hogan was a big draw for more years than Austin. But Austin's grosses were so huge that his few years were bigger than all of Hogan's put together. The profit margin in Austin's best year was more than the total profit margin, in fact, significantly more, between 1984 and 1992, which was the entire Hogan WWE era. Just so this isn't misinterpreted. WWF profits from 1984-92 were about $40-45 million total. Best single year was $6 million. Profits were never less than $56 million each year from 98-99 through 00-01.

>Hogan's coming didn't turn WCW around. Nitro did and a roster that had more star power than any roster in history. In WCW's best year and hottest period, Goldberg was the draw. When WCW was doing those 30,000 fan Nitros, Hogan was doing one of his retirements and the company was doing its biggest house show business ever without him.

>Hogan didn't draw that well at house shows in WCW until the entire company itself was on fire, and then they were drawing with him and without him. Hogan was never close to the man when it came to WCW's big period of ratings. Goldberg and Flair moved the audience the most consistently. Hogan was good, but he was second tier with Savage.

>In WWE, his first 2-3 PPVs and first TV appearances did great for the nostalgic return. Check the ratings that year. They died after a while. I remember the week, there was a Hogan interview shortly after he'd won the title where the audience tuned out in droves. They had to get the belt from him.

It's no mystery why Hogan refused to put over Austin at WM 18 desu
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nah, not interested in discussing this again so soon

use the archive
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>>1852399
sorry I will start a CM Punk thread next time
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> le meltz

> it was Hogan who didn't want to face Austin
Lmao nice revisionism austincuck
It was Stone Cuck who didn't want to because he knew he would get booed the fuck out the arena.

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-AJ vs Cena vs Ambrose
Why the fuck did this open the show to begin with?
The match was perfect. 4.75 stars at least. AJ tapping to Cena and Ambrose simultaneusly and then getting fed up and picking up the chair to win was a great way to protect everyone. Great spots overall.
Ambrose got carried though and needs a heel turn.

Nikki vs Carmella.
Nobody cares.

Rhyno/Slater vs Usos
I expected the latter to win but at the same time I didn't want Slater to drop the belt this soon. Good thing they didn't, though I think a DQ win would have been better to keep the heat on the Usos. The match was good.

Corbin vs Swagger
Didn't watch it, it wasn't on dailymotion, top kek. Don't care anyway.

Ziggler vs Miz
Man, it would have been tough as fuck to beat that opening for the WWE title, but somehow Ziggler did it. I legitimately saw him gone twice, emotional match, the crowd loved it. Great booking against all odds.

Naomi vs Bliss
Nobody cares. Not even sure why the made Bliss job if she still has a title shot.

Bray vs Orton
A midcard match as main event? K. Good to see Bray going over because he badly needed it, good to see Harper back, however if this is to mean something, then Bray needs to become unstoppable.
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>AJ Styles v.. John Cena v. Dean Ambrose - 4.25
>Nikki Bella v. Carmella - 2.25
>Rhyno and Slater v. The Usos - 3.5
>Baron Corbin v. Jack Swagger - 3
>Dolph Ziggler v. The Miz - 4.5
>Naomi v. Alexa Bliss - 1.75
>Bray Wyatt v. Randy Orton - 3.75
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>AJ vs. Cena vs. Ambrose
3.75
>Nikki vs. Carmella
2
>Rhyno/Slater vs. Usos
3
>Corbin vs. Swagger
3
>Ziggler vs. The Miz
4.25
>Naomi vs. Alexa
1.5
>Bray vs. Wyatt
2.75

The main event was too plodding. Ziggler/Miz should've main evented. That was Miz's best singles match ever.
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>>1852384
>Bray vs. Wyatt
What

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So why do smarks hate him again? It's been years since his unbeatable reign of terror, he's one of the better mic workers in the company, and has put on a string of great ppv matches going back for about a solid year.

Is it just an old habit?
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>>1852372
Because he will eventually win another world title while guys like Jericho can't. It's bullshit.
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>>1852374
>while guys like Jericho can't.
Jericho's house show tickets don't sell.
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>>1852372
>So why do smarks hate him again?

They don't. Casual male viewers over 13 are the guys shouting Cena sucks. These guys are not true smarks.

Nobody who does all the actual smark shit like post on forums, read dirt sheets, listen to shoots, etc is going to be saying Cena sucks anymore. It's the "thumbs up" guys doing that.

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Apologize.
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I am truly sorry I missed out on watching him in TNA.
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He's already boring.
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I'm sorry you're such a manlet.

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>LETS GO STYLES!
>LETS GO CENA!
>LETS GO STYLES!
>LETS GO CENA
>"...yay ambrose"
>crowd goes silent

Anyone else notice how no one gave a crap about Ambrose in tonight's match?
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Not easy to stand between 2 giants.

But yeah, Ambrose needs a heel turn at this point.
He has nothing more to offer with this character.
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naw man it was:

LETS GO DEANO!

not cena
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>deanetty

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Didn't watch, but was Dolph-Miz better than this bros?
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It involved the spirit squad.
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>>1852321
it's like the figure 4 of never drew a dime with all of them
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>>1852364
18+

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