What if he was the one who beat the Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak?
lots of fat smarks btfo
I'd rather it have been him than some shitty part-timer who gets squashed by Goldberg
Should've been him desu
What other wrestlers were forcefully pushed until they finally got over with the fans?
Roman Reigns is the most obvious one. Inb4 maymays
>>2181679
Orton was over since day 1
>>2181685
The RKO was over not him
Orton with the Overdrive was a dud
I stopped watching WWE from 2003 to 2016. Can someone tell me what I need to watch on the Network to get an understanding of why Daniel Bryan is so over? The crowd goes apeshit for this guy and I don't understand why.
>>2181598
>. Can someone tell me what I need to watch on the Network to get an understanding of why Daniel Bryan is so over
underdog that got fucked by the company for years
>>2181598
maybe watch his matches?
>>2181598
Summerslam 2012 and Wrestlemania 30
What is this face trying to convey?
>>2181557
This was honestly one of the best moments in TNA history. Shame how they managed to fuck it up like everything else they do...
Tito was on TNA? Awesome! What kind of reaction did he get?
>>2181691
unironically, no reaction
How many dimes did the Terry Bollea run draw?
>>2181539
something between Terry Boulder and Mr. America
>>2181545
did we ever find out who mr America was?
>>2181553
Jack Swagger
FIVE
FOUR
THREE
TWO
ONE
*BRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*
https://youtu.be/uyYvbzSp5XY?t=1m26s
How hard would you mark out?
>>2181517
like a 8 or so
>>2181517
only two draws on that whole poster
FIVE
FOUR
THREE
TWO
ONE
*BRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0t_80SMbo
How hard would you mark out?
>It's likely already been said on here before, but they're the best heel duo in NXT, sorry Revival. In fact these ladies are better than "Lay Cool" ever were. If you remember Michelle McCool and Layla. I find that Peyton Royce and Billie Kay are very similar heels in that they convince me not to like them, very similar to "Lay Cool". However, Billie Kay and Peyton Royce are solid in the ring, much better than Layla and Michelle ever were, or could be. It's surprising to me that these two don't have their own thread yet because they are that damn good. Any others on here feel the same?
Hi this is Jim in Virginia just asking when do you guys think Peyton Royce is winning the title?
>>2181494
Man, Billie Kay is so fucking hot.
>>2181497
kek
Dave Meltzer on Hulk Hogan's drawing power
>Hogan was a big draw for more years than Austin. But Austin's grosses were so huge that his few years were bigger than all of Hogan's put together. The profit margin in Austin's best year was more than the total profit margin, in fact, significantly more, between 1984 and 1992, which was the entire Hogan WWE era. Just so this isn't misinterpreted. WWF profits from 1984-92 were about $40-45 million total. Best single year was $6 million. Profits were never less than $56 million each year from 98-99 through 00-01.
>Hogan's coming didn't turn WCW around. Nitro did and a roster that had more star power than any roster in history. In WCW's best year and hottest period, Goldberg was the draw. When WCW was doing those 30,000 fan Nitros, Hogan was doing one of his retirements and the company was doing its biggest house show business ever without him.
>Hogan didn't draw that well at house shows in WCW until the entire company itself was on fire, and then they were drawing with him and without him. Hogan was never close to the man when it came to WCW's big period of ratings. Goldberg and Flair moved the audience the most consistently. Hogan was good, but he was second tier with Savage.
>In WWE, his first 2-3 PPVs and first TV appearances did great for the nostalgic return. Check the ratings that year. They died after a while. I remember the week, there was a Hogan interview shortly after he'd won the title where the audience tuned out in droves. They had to get the belt from him.
>Goldberg and Flair
>Flair
Fucking kek
>>2181443
>Dave Meltz-
stopped reading right there
>>2181447
Literally autistic or no reading comprehension at all
GOLDDDBERG GOOLDBERG GOLDDBERG
>women's wrestling
everytime
>>2181352
she's so fucking lazy its unreal
>>2181360
If I remember correctly, they were experimenting with making her a Ryback type character
>Supposed to be """the best wrestler in the world"""
>His finisher is a clothesline
Really?
Cenas finisher is a fishermans carry
The Rocks was an elbow drop
Hogans was a leg drop
Austins was a jawbreaker
>>2181348
>fishermans
You mean firemans, but yeah. Doesn't matter what your finisher is if you can get it over
I'll go first
HHH
>inb4 Reigns
>>2181314
Out of who was in the tournment I'd agree
Jobbing on the main roster is considered a success to Indie wrestlers. Miz was right about them
>Smack has hotter jobbers than Ram does "wrestlers"
This is JUST getting sad now
Visibility on the main roster brings more indy offers , even if you don't make it to the upper card or midcard , you still can be a big name for small leagues .
>>2181251
This. Being able to get on live TV in front of thousands is a success for any wrestler
Who was more over?
ib the shitposting:
It's honestly too difficult to compare. Their situations are dissimilar.
Austin getting hot in late 1996 is about as close as you can get, because Bryan wasn't around or pushed for long enough to do a lengthy comparison.
Austin.
Bryan was the most over man on the roster at the height of his popularity though.
>>2181223
Austin got reactions like Bryan got vs Wyatts every week during 98-99
“You Deserve It” implies that there is a reward structure for overcoming the odds that very few can accomplish, but this spontaneous moment of praise has now been co-opted by the dominant power to push their agenda on the audience. The WWE wants to legitimize specifically marketable superstars by making it look like they got to the top the hard way, and the fans have bought into it PUSH, line and sinker.
But before we go any further, let’s break it down what this chant most likely means:
>You
Refers to the wrestler in the ring, apparently someone who is considered to have worked hard and not particularly gotten their just return for this great deal of effort.
>Deserve
The “you” had actually achieved some kind of greatness before, most likely in the lower ranks (indy scene, international wrestling, NXT, mid-card), and is now receiving the special recognition, and/or an elevated spot on a top-tier WWE show, usually reserved for hand-picked, less-deserving corporate wrestlers.
>It
Some kind of accolade, like a title belt or career achievement, that comes along with the perceived money and fame of being on the USA Network between 8-11pm.
So who deserves “it”? You’d think maybe Shawn Michaels when he won the WWF Title at Wrestlemania 12, or maybe Stone Cold Steve Austin when he won the King of the Ring, Eddie Guerrero after defeating Brock Lesnar at No Way Out, or Daniel Bryan at the end of Wrestlemania 30? Nah… not in 2016.
In 2016, the very same year that an inexplicably “This Is Awesome” chant spontaneously broke out just by seeing The New Day standing in the ring with the Wyatt Family, the “You Deserve It” chant was given not only to journeyman workhorses like TJ Perkins and Kevin Owens, but was also gifted to silver spoon, head office favorites Dean Ambrose, Finn Balor and Bayley.
>Reasons they don't deserve it
Dean Ambrose = Corporate WWE Guy.
On the surface you might think, “Oh, of course Ambrose deserves it” just like these fans chanted following his Money in the Bank cash-in victory for the WWE World Title. Dean is a good wrestler and an incredibly hard worker, no doubt, but hasn’t this guy really been one of the most protected and coddled WWE superstar’s we’ve ever seen?
Fans love to rip on Triple H, John Cena or Roman Reigns for being force-pushed on us by WWE corporate at different times in recent history, but I think you’ve absolutely got to add Ambrose to that list, and thus how can he really “deserve it” if he was being groomed for it all along?
Roman Reigns gets all the criticism for being the WWE’s current pet project, but Ambrose has been just as protected and pushed, especially in contrast to their Shield stablemate Seth Rollins. Ambrose, like Reigns, was a blue-chipper in the WWE developmental system, used sparingly so to as to not burn him out or expose him to the audience too early. He also had this mythical reputation of being the next Roddy Piper, and therefore wasn’t chugged out every week to constantly prove that he had potential like Rollins did in FCW / NXT. Even when they all moved up with The Shield, it was always Rollins who was just considered the solid worker with the least amount of WWE-style upside, not the “it” guy like Reigns or the great “crazy” heel ready to be unleashed like Ambrose.
Then Ambrose was gifted the US Title and did nothing substantial with the belt for about a year, whereas Rollins had to go out and basically do all the heavy lifting in his tag team with the much greener Reigns. Following the break up of the Shield, it turned out that Ambrose was easily the weakest solo star, the crowd wasn’t behind him like they were Reigns pre-injury, he couldn’t work singles matches like Rollins, and that long promised “crazy” personality never truly emerged.
>Google headline
>Jake Chambers article
I hope you're actually him so you know that you're an unfunny, talentless hack and even a trashheap like 411 is too good for you.
>>2181144
Ambrose even had the incredibly rare opportunity to main event PPVs, and officially stunk it up in a weak TLC match against Bray Wyatt in 2014. Roman Reigns never gets the luxury of stinking up a match in the fans’ eyes, let alone a PPV main event, but Ambrose seems to get no punishment either from the fans or the corporate office.
WWE loves this guy, and they’ve given him every opportunity imaginable, and he’s done a generally fine job. Hey, pro-wrestling is like that sometimes, people just get anointed as stars for whatever reason. But does that mean should be applauded for getting to the top when he was expected to be at the top in the first place?
It’s one thing to be Kevin Durant but it’s another to be Steph Curry. Both were NBA MVPs in the recent past but only one of them had a multimillionaire NBA player for a father who groomed him to be a star from birth. Sure, he deserved to be MVP, but anything less would have been a disappointment.
We all know that the WWE is not a real sport, so the way we determine who “deserves” something they’re actually just being given is very tricky. However, it seems clear to me that Dean Ambrose is not in the realm of a Daniel Bryan or a CM Punk when it comes to having to prove yourself every night in order to get to the top. Nah, Ambrose is a corporate champ and he deserves that, but certainly doesn’t deserve a chant for it.
FAGGOT
go back
>>2181132
>RWTRR1"DHSCBTRESRRRLARRGD
what did you mean by this
>>2181139