/herp/ - Reptile & Amphibian General

Finally a better thread

reptiles are fags, didnt you watch reptile city?

>>2417462
Yeah.

What's a good size tank for a gecko?

>>2417465
see? people know

>>2417466
Anything with holes in it.

>>2417468
Holes big enough to let the gecko out

>>2417469
How many holes does it even need?

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Bump with a pretty neroidia I caught the other day
Ignore head squish he was being very bite

>>2417471
only 1 if it can get out

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>>2417472
More neroidia of different coloration

>>2417472
do you grab snakes out of the water for fun

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>>2417475
Stump tail

>>2417476
I grab my snake in the water.

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>>2417476
I haven't grabbed any from the water in a while
Most are grabbed on land

I can also post pics of salamanders or other snakes or shit if it's wanted

>>2417472
Looks tasty. Ever tried eating them?

>>2417485
Never smaller ones
I had anaconda once and wasn't really a fan

>>2417486
Too tough? Or was the flavour not good?

this is a duplicate thread. >>2417448 was posted several minutes earlier.

>>2417487
I once ate a snake and it was too tough and tasted wierd. but it was my cousin's snake.

>>2417487
Weird texture , and not a fan of flavour
>>2417488
This one appears more active and I saw it first, so I'm going to stick to here unless it dies or something

>>2417493
You aren't a fan of flavor?
Guy Fieri is gonna have a word with you!

>>2417488
>people bitch about discord server in the OP
>other thread without link gets BTFO

why do people even care? the main /an/ server is /aqherp/ glorified.

>>2417495
Not of muddy fishy snake ish

>>2417500
nice dubs

>>2417496

discord pulls traffic away from /an/ and further slows an already slow thread.

>>2417497
>solely to shill the snake measure video
I made that video but I'm not OP
I asked him to put it in the OP though.

>>2417561

i see. thanks.

This thread is good

Do NOT join the discord! The moment you have an opinion that the mods don't agree with you get banned. I'm a current memeber and it's really bad that I'm about to quit. The only active part is the general and it gets like 50 messages a day at most.

>>2417771
You got banned because you were shitposting non-stop and accused various people of abusing animals without any evidence. I know this because we've only banned one redditor that had this exact same outlook on the discord when shit didn't go your way.

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>>2417771
trying too hard

we literally only banned one legitimate ledditor for shitposting and actually getting triggered by the word "fag"

actually, are you him? that would explain why you think general chat only gets 50 messages, because you were removed before it got active

>>2417779
>>2417781
Why don't you both screw off? Your server is shit and mine is flourishing. 460 members strong.

>>2417796
How about you give us an invite friendo?

>>2417182

>>2417796
460 redditors.

>>2417801
>>2417804
I'd rather not have a bunch of racist losers in my discord and get it deleted. You fucking trolls.

>>2417810
>calls people racist losers
>is on 4chan
nigga do you know where you are

>>2417811
I do. It seriously 2017 get the fuck over it dude. Your server is shit and will never get any bigger.

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>>2417813
just like my dong, it continues to expand into infinity
i'm not even those two dudes lmao

>Discord kids shitting up the thread

Congrats, cancer.

>>2417827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4

>>2417830
Stop shitting up the thread and post reps. Nobody cares about your Reddit server.

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Holy fuck shut up please you dweebs!! Look at this A. a. americanus I'm keeping for the summer

Are scorps welcome?

>>2417853
K
>>2417851
Just kys and don't make me mad again

>>2417856
>admits to being mad in the first place
you lost kiddo

>>2417854
now they are


well obv they should have an arthropod general, but it seems herpfags and arthofags seem to have the same interests in animals

>>2417854
We have an invert general for that, check it out >>2408076

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>>2417853
That's a fowleri.

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Okay apparently one or two different reptile discord communities have decided to squat here. If you want to use this thread, keep discussion on topic please. This is not the venue for your bickering. If you want to advertise your discord, make one post with the link and then piss off. That includes future threads. I will not have legitimate new threads be hijacked by you people all in the name of including the discord link in the OP. Post link as first reply if you want, i don't care. The shit that went down last night is not acceptable.

Please.

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I just afopted a kingsnake from a woman and didnt see this shit until i got home and let him out of the travel bag
Could this possibly be scars or is it fucking scale rot? The woman dodnt mention this at all before during or after we agreed to meet
I knew i shouldve examined him better on arrival

>>2417458
My ball python has purplish discoloration around on his lips I think it's mouth rot. Is there anything I can do while I wait for the vet?

>>2417827
>buzzwords after buzzwords.

It's pretty obvious this threads were good until discord kiddies came along.

>>2418166
This the /an/ discord is full really shitty people. Don't you dare have a differing opinion than them!

>>2418184
>all that wall of diarrhea
Only ones that started fighting like kids ITT were discord kiddies having a dick measurement contest. Please KYS.

>>2418164

That's scale rot. Return to seller if possible. Take to vet if you intend to keep snek. It can be treated.

>>2418185
>Only ones that started fighting like kids ITT were discord kiddies
>>2417771

You're so obviously trying to bait people with your faux stupidity. You're gonna reply to this too, not with a direct counterargument but with some other tangent or insult.

And then you'll samefag that because no one else replies to your bait anymore.

>>2418189
>Being an apologist for two kiddies fighting over which of their discord is better

Proof discord kiddies are pure cancer and should get euthanized.

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>>2418184

I'm going to respond to this one last time.

I am not going to include the discord link in the OP for two reasons:

1. This is thread for discussion here. It is not an advertisement for non-4chan social sites.
2. It appears to me that there are two discord communities, each attempting to get on their own discord link in the OP to the exclusion of the other. I will not participate in that and I will not have this general play middle man to it either. You may post the link to your's, and they may post the link to their's, but neither is going in the OP in future.

>>2418088
>>2418194
It's not even a problem between two reptile communities. It just so happens that /an/'s largest server comprises of a lot of /herp/ users with ties to this specific general as well as /aq/. The guy claiming to have another, larger server is nothing but a redditor that was banned from the server for harassing half it's population, and is choosing right now to cause drama on the general. His "server" doesn't even exist. Up until last night, the /herp/ faction within /an/cord only dropped invites leading to the #herp channel ever so often, and then proceeded to fuck off and never bring up Discord in the threads.

The only thing people are doing is giving the single reddit shitposter the attention he needs to shit up this thread to the depths of hell.

>>2418165

If vet visit is in the next couple weeks you can wait. A substrate change and tank clean would be a good idea but otherwise wait until you have some kind of diagnosis before administering medical care.

>>2418195

I don't care. Argue elsewhere. Not here.

>>2418194
1. You have no power over being the sole OP of this general.
2. As far as I'm aware there is only one discord, I have not seen any invites to a second, competing one. This whole drama is being stirred up one person pretending to have a discord themselves. We believe this person is a certain someone that got banned (the ONLY person out of 300+ member to ever get banned) over massively harassing people, that is now purposely shitposting here, including samefagging and obviously false allegations, such as being banned for having differing opinions (you can join yourself and just lurk to check if that is true or not).

Not including the discord link won't stop him. I will tell you exactly what will happen nex thread. He's going to pretend to be one of the "discord fags" and complain loudly and insultingly over not including the link. If we post invites here we don't do it insultingly or in a braggart way.

>>2418199
There are no arguments here.

It's all one guy trying to make discord look bad because he got banned for exactly the behavior he is now repeating here.

>>2418200
>If we post invites here we don't do it insultingly or in a braggart way.

I would appreciate that. Thank you.

>>2418194
We honestly don't care if it's in the OP or not, there are a lot of people in the herp channel on discord, someone will always be around when the new thread is made and post an invite as one of the first posts. It's not a problem.

>>2418202
We would never do that anyway. Why the fuck would we? No one is going to join the discord if we were to post like that. We WANT people joining and having discussions, that way no one would join.

If there are posts like that you know who it is.

>>2418188
I texted her and she said its from a rat gnawing on him when his old owner fed him live should i believe that? I do intend on keeping him and im gonna call my vet tomorrow to get it checked out still

>>2418210

If it was just the one spot and was in process of healing maybe that could be plausible-ish. However, you can clearly see the same rot getting started on several other scales.

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As one of the people who runs the general /an/ discord. I apologise for any and all shitposting from my party, can't do anything to stop the one guy who was mad about getting kicked due to being a shitposter

Have a salamander as a token of my apologies

>>2418215
Was playing crossout and this clan leader kept lowkey linking his discord. From time to time he eventually sperged out on enforcing people it's a must and you get kicked out if you don't follow suit. It's definitely a power trip drive. Sad.

>>2418213
Fuck off snatch

>>2418257
Hahahahaha I'm dead inside.

>>2418257
Btfo

>>2418077
Damn anon you're right, thanks

>>2418196
Good news is he doesn't really have mouth rot. It just happens that some ball python develop dark patterns on the lips. I did a close look and it looked normal.

>>2418352
Good news! Yeah sometimes it can difficult to differentiate between early warning sign of illness and just regular pattern changes on growing reptiles, especially if it's your first experience with a particular species.

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I rescued a speckled kingsnake friend from the neighbor's asshole dog today.

>>2418572
Nice! That is my favorite kingsnake color pattern.

okay so back in the day I had a large kiddie pool that we would set up in the backyard during summer and after awhile of not using it plants began to bust through the bottom of the pool and mosquito larvae started to appear then soon after that tadpoles and frogs appeared as well. Now what I'm wondering is would I be able to simulate this again, but through better and safer means? (Note: once the plants came through we stopped going in the pool. We may live in the shitty part of the state, but we aren't that awful.)

>>2418671
What is your idea of 'safer means'?

Destroy all discords

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>>2418697

I think anon means more durable and better suited to the application long term than a thin plastic children's pool.

>>2418671

Garden centres often sell pond liners for this purpose. Do a search for 'high density polyehtylene pond liner' or 'hdpe pond liner'. They come in many different sizes. Pic related is sold by Lowes and has 145 gallon capacity. You pretty much just dig a hole in the same shape and put it in. I recommend putting substrate in and seeding it with aquatic or semi-aquatic plants that can survive your climate. Nature will work out the rest.

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>>2418739

Also on the topic of these garden pond liners, they make fantastic inexpensive enclosures for turtles with some small modifications.

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>>2418743

you can also get fancy with it and build a hole base for it to mount in.

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>>2418164
Update its scale rot. The vet gave me a cream to put on him once a day and says it should clear up in 2 weeks

>influx of drama unrelated to /herp/
just one of the reasons why discord is shit

>>2418839

Excellent. Make sure tank is nice and dry during healing process. Excess moisture is one of the reason scale rot gets started in the first place.

>>2418839
Recover well noodle

>>2418852
>>2418866
Thanks and yeah i took all his substrate out and replaced with newspaper to keep him dry and keep it out of his scales especially when theyre sticky from the cream
It looks ugly but i dont care about that at this point

>>2418839
oooh what kind of king is he? Ive never seen one like that before

>>2418906
Hes a brooks king
All the puctures i have of him hes in shed so his spots arent very visible at all

Why would a topic like this even need a discord. or a general.

Finally found my crestie after a few days in my curtains in the reptile room she escaped
Apparently just a basic pet store screen top isn't enough to keep them in the cage if they feel like pushing their way out. so now I'm putting bricks of eco earth on top of the cage to weight it down
She seems okay, probably thirsty but I'm sure she'll live

>>2419174
Just get a screen clip.

What do i feed a very small frog?

>>2419672
very small food

>>2419673
Like what? Ants? Mosquitoes?

>>2419675
fruit flies

you can buy cultures in pet stores or online

springtails if it's REALLY small, can also be bought online

>>2419683

flightless fruitless, yeah. those are the usual for small frogs.

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My comfy sand boa girl being comfy and doing a peek

I unexpectedly rescued a ball python today.
It's very overweight and has early scale rot. I'm not sure how to tackle this.

>>2419809

Recommend a vet trip or at least a fecal exam to see what you're dealing with health-wise. As for the obesity, that's a simple matter of returning the snake to appropriate feeder size and frequency + appropriately sized tank and stuff to climb on.

>>2419781

Cute. I may obtain sand noodle one of these days.

>>2419820
The snake is responsive and pretty normal, honestly.
The owners said they bathed her pretty often so I think that's the root cause. I'm picking up some betadine tomorrow.

So my bp has been stuck trying to eat his mouse for maybe 2 hours now...
Should I try and help him eat it? Or just let him be?

>>2419849
what do you mean by stuck?

In the long run whats a better indoor land tort/turt?
I dont have much of a yard, and prefer to keep a close eye on my herps so I keep them in my room
Set up for them seems simple enough and I have the space for a simple set up, and the time to let them exercise outside after work

>>2420221
both require a pretty large enclosure as adults. neither can really fit comfortably in a bedroom with a bed and desk and whatever else you have in it.

>>2419892
The mouse's position was just weird in his mouth. It took him a while, but he finally figured it out

Anyone have some Halloween Geckos aka Gila Monsters?
https://youtu.be/jj_C7SFHnnw

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Or their cousins Mexican Beaded Lizards?
https://youtu.be/D6BLRmDnKGU

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Mah Dude...I have a female too who is high pink

>>2420372
>>2420374
>>2420375
you could atleast not samefag so hard if youre gonna post your TOTALLY EPIC HANDLING DANGEROUS LIZARD!!!!! video every single thread

>>2420377
*same fagging isnt correct term to use here im sleepy but still your video is cancer and you post it too often

Goodness..posted it once in the old thread and once here. Chill out...how about you contribute something too

>>2417458
Just inherited a few 20 gallon talls my buddy used for saltwater tanks
Gonna clean em out and try to fit some herps in, want to put maybe newts or salamanders in em. Whats a good basic starter on these since I'm new to amphibians?

>>2420374
Good video, maybe not smart but nromies love that coyote douche who harasses small wild animals so at least this better
The haters can suck your cock
I hope you get good views and shit
Sub'd

>>2420374
I had a super tame Blue tongue skink when I was a kid for like 10 years (until my mom got mad and made me sell it) but it pretty much never bit except maybe once every few years randomly for no apparent reason
I've seen other reptiles do the same. Sometimes the tamest reptiles will just bite for no reason even if they never normally do

>>2420450
By the way, keep us updated so we know you're alive, good luck

>>2420449
>comparing some guy with his pet lizard to coyote peterson's videos
what?

>>2420454
Coyote handled a black widow
This guy handled a venomous lizard
But Coyote is in general kind of douche for other reasons (roughly handling delicate small anmals and harassing them like I would do if I was fucking 6 years old)
I saw the other guy being a bitch to him for no reason so I'm just saying he deserves the fame more than CP

>>2420458
this is salt

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Today I fed my 11 month old male leopard gecko and when he was stalking the cricket he did that rapid tail wagging thing for the first time ever (it was adorable). I've read that it's a mating display, so does that mean he is sexually mature now? Or was he just really excited about food today?

>>2420482
He loves you

>>2420482

They do it when eating on occasion just because they're excited and all hyped up about the meal. Whether happy about hunting or imminent sex, as the case may be, it is primarily leo body language for excitement.

OK Herp I need some help. I have been considering picking up my first reptile since I had a box turtle as a teen which had to be given to another family due to moving. Anyway I am looking at Bearded dragons, preferably adults since I am away on weekends on a regular basis so a lizard that has a largely plant diet will be easier on my folks to feed for a day.

But Budget is a concern and I want to know how much do you guys personally spend on a Beardie? Any tricks you guys use to keep costs down at all? Because right now they seem like they could cost a good bit per week.

>>2420685
Bearded dragons are a more expensive reptile to keep, for its size
>Needs UVB changed every 6 months
>High powered heat bulb
>Fresh vegetables and greens every day

The cheapest to keep reptile I can think of is a corn snake.
>Eats once a week
>No special lighting
>Heat mats are more efficient than bulbs

>>2420736
Yeah any colubrid is cheap to feed and easy care. Or any small to medium sized arid climate snake for that matter.

There is also crested and gargoyle geckos. Primary diet is pre-mixed powder every second day + live insects maybe once a week. If room temp is mid 70's, no heat required. Tank needs to be misted with water once daily.

Those two groups are as easy as it gets.

What is the most "affectionate" herp?
I wanna know because my dream is to have a pint sized scalle baby snuggle party

>>2420764
red tail boa prob

>>2420764
you better let that stay a dream then

>>2420764
Get a cat.
There's no such thing as an affectionate reptile.

>>2420764
Full grown reticulated python are quite cuddly

>>2420776
I have one
And I'm certain thats false, I've seen loads of larger turtles and tortoises that love their handlers ans love to be pet and handled

>>2420803
Reptiles are entirely lacking the part of the brain that deals with love and affection.
They act that way because they've associated it with being fed.

>>2420736
>>2420748
I am not a major fan of snakes as pets even if I do find some absolutely adorable. Same with geckos. A huge reason for this is that my brother has various species of geckos and despite how neat they are, I find myself wanting something more active and interactive.

So I am curious about what others pay when it comes to a beardie. Also I was hoping that a bonus side of the keeping regular produce in the house is that it will help me cook and eat more healthy if I have more of an excuse to keep stocked on greens. I will admit that I did not consider how much more the electric bill might cost.

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Heyyyy you guys wanna watch my iguana lose its shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RQuRXqT008

>>2420913
It was funny to watch
That little thing cant possible cause that much damage so why be so afraid?

>>2420685
the cheapest way to feed a beardie is to grow your own veggies and breed your own feeders

veggies are cheap though, I can get a months worth for like 5 bucks
I'll get around to breeding dubias eventually so at this point I probably spend about 7 or 8 dollars every other week to keep him fed on bugs

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Honestly I will not say that reptiles are capable of love, but it's Damn near impossible to not love a Savannah monitor snuggle...ive had mines since he was 6" and he regularly sleeps in my bed near my chest..pretty cool

>>2420895
One heat lamp and UVB bulb will not make a major spike in your electricity bill. It's much more of concern if you have a whole room full of tanks all needed various heating and lighting fixtures.

Majority of cost for a bearded dragon is upfront for the tank, decor, and lighting. You can expect to pay maybe $150 or so for that. And then whatever the dragon itself runs. Ongoing feeding and electricity costs are modest.

>>2420932

Iguana that size can open up some nice bloody gashes on your fingers if it gets a good grip and yanks the right way.

>>2420932
Uhh well it was more scary in person. You would have had to be there. Plus it would ruin our relationship if I let her bite me. I wouldnt be the alpha male anymore

>>2421012
>solitary lizard
>knowing the concept of a hierarchy
do you retards ever spend a single second thinking before letting out your verbal diarrhea?

>>2421000
adorable

>>2421000
>>2421132
Thanks.

>>2421000
Those nails...
That skin...
That nose...
Seems like he doesn't have deep substrate in his enclosure anon. Please tell me I'm wrong

>>2421272

You are. The spot on the nose is dry blood from a rodent, his nails are always long (I dig his burrow out so he has a safe hole) and his skin was from an accident when he was young. What else do you want to know?

>>2420913
I'm not clicking that cancer

>>2421291
His concerns were pretty valid.

>>2421272
His substrate is about 2 1/2' ...it's a mix between eco earth, playground sand and coconut mulch.

>>2421294
I understand his concerns. I guess my first thoughts might be similar. But no, my dude is very well taken care. I try my best to keep his in thr best possible care.

>>2420913
>not clickbait
>makes the most clickbaity image and title possible

>>2421339
>dude almost died while filming this
>"boo-hoo clickbait"

>>2421291
>>2421295
OK so the blood on the nose is my bad, didnt consider that option, but those nails... First Im not sure why he/she is missing some and I dont think that active digging/exploring monitor lizard should have them that long.
Sorry if i come out as a dick but i love these lizards and I have seen so many ppl kill them because of bad or lack of research.

>>2421344
still not going to get me to watch it
if you almost died from a 3 foot lizard you deserve it desu

>>2421349
Missing nails are from his first owner, some kid who didn't know anything about them until I told him. Basically he would yank him off of things and I'm assuming that's how his tails came off...I received him with 4 nails total missing. As far as the length, he's is both active and he still digs. I completely agree. I act very much the same way.

>>2421494
Oh thats good to hear.. Im tired of reading threads where some dumb kid or adult (that just blows my mind) buys "cute" water monitor and puts him in 10 gal

>>2421502
It's nice that you care so mich, but understand bad owners are a minority, mediocre owners are a majority, and good owners are a minority. This is the case for ALL pets, not just reptiles. Mediocre owners may suck in a few regards, but do enough good things to keep their reptiles alive for their expected lifetime.
By being predisposed to sperging out at people, you are taking an extreme stance that not far from PETA. Have faith in fellow reptile owners. Sperg if they're actually idiots, but be nicer to mediocre owners or you'll just end up driving them away and your good advice (which I assume you want people to follow) will be ignored because of your attitude.

>>2421525
Yeah I know.. I get little carried away sometimes

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I want to make a good home for my new iguana.

Is this okay?

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>>2421024

>>2421686
merely pretending haha gottem

>>2421339
>>2421686
I put my life on the line for this video and you're criticizing my title?! How dare you. You wouldn't have had the balls to stand up to a creature like that and you know it!

>>2421687
Is a joke my man. Its okay I got an itchy trigger finger too so I can relate. No biggie famalam got nothing but love for ya.

>>2421656
Seems really small. It looks really nice and the aesthetics are cool, but you need to upgrade that thing into a real cage asap. Needs to be tall with lots of perchs and it needs a basking spot and uvb lights. My first cage for an iguana of that size was a 4ftx2ftx4ft. Also get some mulch. You dont want your iggy slipping and sliding. Good luck

>>2421656

bait? cause i feel like this is bait. it smells baity to me. is that a salad bowl?

>>2421656
Its too small, has no uvb and has no heat
Please look up how to care for an iguana

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Anybody here know much about Pixies? I'm a month into owning pic related, and things are going good, but I'm concerned about humidity. I spray his cage with a water bottle twice a day, but it seems to dry pretty quick, do I need to invest in a humidifier?

>>2421816
Change the substrate to something that holds humidity better

>>2421841
I plan on it, I've got some eco earth coming in the mail. I've seen a lot of people recommend the coconut substrate.

>>2417458
Please help with owning a chameleon, i know how this general feels about them but I wont take dont do it as an answer. Money is not an issue so i can manage a god tier terrarium and i plan on buying the chameleon as a baby. Id like to buy one of the more long lived chams but at the same time if there is any type of cham which can and would enjoy coexist in either a two female or male female pair I may opt for that

>>2421865
You can't pay for the experience required to not kill that animal.

>>2421882
But i do have experience though although with only bearded dragons and iguanas

>>2417466
Apparently a 20 gal tank with heat lamp

So the bottom side of a heat mat gets equally as hot as the sticky side right?

I have a wooden tank, and ill be putting some lexan glass at the bottom, between the tiles and wood.

I was wondering if I stuck the heat mat, to the lexan on It's top, touching the bottom of the tiles; if it would reach regular temps (94 degrees Fahrenheit)

>>2421954
Uth's are the same temp both sides. However, your proposed setup must have ventilation to the heat mat from the bottom so as to not overheat/ignite/burn down tank/burn down house. Sandwiching it between lexan and tiles in the way I think you are suggesting is very dangerous.

>>2421865
Don't cohab chameleons. Keep one without killing it. That is more than enough challenge.

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LPS has a couple of eastern painted turtle for sale, and I have just recently gotten a 40 gallon tall from a friend. Would this be ample space? I know turtles tend to prefer shallow but wide tanks, so I've been nervouse about going throgh with it. I have the equipment and was just considering setting up a floating basking area or something
This a good idea for one turtle and some fish or am I being retarded?

>>2421849
What do you use if not coco fiber? It's the only substrate I'd recommend because it's the hardest substrate to impact them and they can burrow in it

I'm not saying you shouldn't give a fuck but they are super hardy when it comes to humidity and temperature
I've experimented with different things and they've always done fine. I've never had a pixie die in 10 years

>>2420474
No you just watch garbage shit on youtube and can't handle some lame stream kike getting criticized for his poor ediquette with animals
I fully support that posters opinion.
Coyote is a retarded faggot that does a lot of stupid shit and only soulless drones like his channel because they don't care about animals

>>2421912
Sooo you don't have the experience...look man it's really not some easy leave it and forget it type animal..beardies and iguanas are not the same as a chameleon...dependimg in the cham you will be beeding a lot..

>>2422007
don't

How do I attract lizards to by backyard?

>>2417458
Hey herp what kind of toad do you recommend?

>>2422478
Or frog they both work

>>2417458
Reminder discord is cancer and defeats the purpose of an image board

>>2422490
seconded
Not even mad my post got deleted with all the other discord drama just for calling it out as thread killing garbage

>>2422007
Aquatic turtles like painteds have no problem with depth, but the footprint of the tank is too small for them, which is why wider is better. (Even hatchlings can be in very deep water as long as it a surface it can climb if it doesn't want to swim up) Floating platforms are alright but unless it's a decent sized one, most turtles will outgrow it and it won't be able to float with it's weight.

Also fish and turtles are iffy, as it's incredibly likely the turtle will eventually eat them since it's part of their diet.
However if this is not much of a concern go with small, fast schooling fish or livebearers like guppies, mollies, platies, swordtails. They can evade fairly well and the livebearers have a chance of breeding. The key is getting fish that don't cost much so you can replace them in the event they get eaten. A cheaper in the long run option is have a separate breeding aquarium of guppies or even shrimp and just toss some in when their population begins to spike, that way you don't have to pay to replace them.

>>2422478

You want one big frog or toad, or you want several little tiny ones, or something in between? Something that climbs or something that hangs around on the ground, or something that mostly swims?

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Right

>>2422524
Any that are big no preference on if it climbs, swims, or whatever

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Got to bring them out for a bit

>>2422499
Thanks mane, this was my thinking as far as the fish go, just to keep them as potential feeders and atmosphere
But with eastern painted's never growing much larger then 4 inches I didnt know how much room was adequate or preferred. Most people online only seem to worry about the swimming needs of larger species

>>2422540
That's only if it's a male and even then, you can get the abnormal male that gets up to 6". Females are always larger than males and can even get up to 8". It's better to plan for potential sizes in the long run as a precaution. A 40 tall is okay but a 40 long or breeder is better, they don't mind depth but they like to move around alot. Just make sure it's a male, a female will need more than a 40 gallon.

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>>2422526

The two easiest to care for options in the large category are pyxicephalus frog (aka pixie frog aka african bullfrog) and pacman frog (south american horned frog).

Toads are a bit less common in pet trade, in my experience. Cane toad is probably easiest to obtain.

Care for all three is easy. All are fat bastards even when they are normal healthy weight for their age and species.

>>2421990
I am drilling many holes through the lexan and the wood, having the tank raised to allow the heat to escape , as well as a thermostat.

>>2422588

Oh, okay that should work fine then.

>>2421816
Be sure to vary their diet. My first pixie (and only pixie) who is about 15m/o was fed nothing but super worms for several months (noob fuck up) while developing and I'm pretty sure he got fuck all Vitamin A, which led to short tongue syndrome (can't produce sticky mucus on tongue). He hasn't eaten properly in many months. Also keep an eye out for mold, though that usually isn't an issue. Spray bottle is a good investment and of course use distilled water or get the stuff that takes chlorine out of water that's like 5 bucks. When it comes to tank setup I've found that a simple one is better than an elaborate one. Dust your food just to be safe from MBD. Try to keep the constant temperature a little on the warmer end of their temp. tolerance (aka around 79-80ish) so they don't become lethargic. I can't stress enough to you though VARY THEIR DIET, it has a huge impact on pixies. Can't think of anything else atm. Good luck fellow frogman.

>>2422557
Sounds like a good idea
The store has one male that I intended to get if the tank was suitable
I believe they're currently 4 inch yearlings so its totally possible they can grow into more
Its always within possibility to just upgrade the tabk later on

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>>2421000

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What kind of reptile is this?

Found a Mediterranean Gecko (I think) in my house and managed to bring him outside with some water

I'm wondering though, can they actually live inside of a house or was the one I caught in a bad situation? Not sure if what I did was pointless or not

>>2422685
Uromastyx

>>2422707

Yes, they can live inside if there are enough bugs roaming around your place to feed them. Unlikely the gecko was in any particular dire straits. Outside is better though.

Any pro here? --- Anyone knows whether it's possible to get Angonoka tortoise and females of Burmese star tortoise? Or large males of Green anaconda?

>>2423174
While I dont consider myself a pro I can give decent answers to you
Angonoka's are practically non existent for sale so my best bet would be something like the TSA catching a blackmarket export/import
Burmese star tortoises can be bought online from a couple of places
Anacondas can also be bought online but may require a permit or not allowed at all depending on where you live but mostly as juveniles/neonates a large male would probably be from someone trying to get rid of their collection instead of any sort of vendor

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Is this normal? This little guy has everything he should have (lighting, varied diet, calmium for his shell) and his top part of hus shell has improved since i got him (he had a brown spot) and i hope his top is just shedding but the bottom shell in 2nd pic seems to be losing his markings

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>>2423615

>>2423617
Also forgot to mention his bottom shell seems to be losing its original shape if you know what i mean

Btw. the problem with lack of large males of anacondas is that it is much easier to catch a large female in the wild compared to a male, since the female sits on a nest.

>>2423617

Okay I have no experience with turtles but that looks unusual to me. Recommend vet trip.

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>>2418839
Just came to share some of his progress so far its been less than a week but hes looking a lot better

>>2423664
>since the female sits on a nest.
Wrong
Its because females are just significantly larger. Anacondas give live birth so there's no nest

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Had to go grab this little guy off friends moms porch she was terrified of him and refused to get out of her car
I believe he's a gray rat snake? but its hard for me to identify between colubrids sometimes since I cant see color

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>>2423886
and I didnt particularly like handling him like that but they wanted to know how long he was
He was really chill though and I let him go in the woods next to my house

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>>2423888
He should get nice and fat around here because I get tons of mice coming into my house from the woods
But I have to reiterate how calm this guy was it almost made me suspect it was a pet but it had quite a few scars on its body
it had waited stretched out on the ladies porch for 15 minutes before she called and then another 35 while we drove over

>>2423615
>>2423617
Looks like a case of shell rot. Are those areas soft?

>>2423936
Not really no but it was soft when i first got him months ago but i assumed it was because it was a newborn

>>2423752

Excellent! Well done, anon.

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>>2417479
Here's my lesser x mojave, Belle

>>2423664
There are plenty of CBB anacondas so that hypothesis makes no sense.

>>2423886
Where do you live? Kinda looks like a Texas rat, but location would help tremendously in identification.

>>2424170
Louisiana so its a good possibility

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Rate the new newts
Got three and theyre all easterns
Pretty healthy as of right now, although they are kindof picky about food at the moment
Also one seems to be infatuated with the filter, its his favorite place to hide for some reason. Its a little fluval so its not sucking him up or anything, he just enjoys being on or around it
Anyways how long does it take to get these guys eating dead meals?

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>>2424368
Pic related, his method of this
I think he just likes not being in the light of the basking area

>>2424064
That snake looks like a penis.

>>2424379
Whats wrong with your penis

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>>2424379
Haha the angle does make it look weird. Here's another.

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My Ball Python has been up in the hollow of this hide for a few days now, is there any reason for it to do this?
I made this hole bigger in case it was stuck in there but she has not left.

>>2424508
How long have you had the snake? It could be going into shed or it could also be nothing.

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>>2424520
I've had her for a month and a half now
Pic is her from about the time I got her

>>2424527
Yeah she's probably shedding. Nothing to worry about. Mine will hide for a whole week and then eventually shed all her skin in one piece.
Also, it's totally normal for a ball python to hide for days at a time, only coming out at night to drink some water

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I bought this big glass and wood lantern. I want to put a crested gecko in it and hang it in my living room.

What do I need to know?

Hey /herp/ I've been feeding my geckos superworms and hornworms because I heard they are better nutritionally than some other feeders, but it seems like no two nutritional chart I see is the same for feeders. Does anybody have a particular chart or study they find accurate or current?

>>2424584

>hang

No. You do not want your tank swaying around spilling water and freaking out your gecko.

Making that thing gecko safe is going to take some work. Whatever that would is sealed with is most likely toxic. It will have to be stripped and sanded, then re-sealed with something safe like water based polyurethane. Seal all internal wood joints with 100% silicone. You will need to add adequate ventilation somehow. And a waterproof lower section to hold your substrate (you don't want substrate falling out every time you open the door).

Honestly it would be less work to build something similar from scratch than it would be to make this thing suitable as a terrarium.

>>2424632

Accuracy is iffy on all of those charts. Hornworms are generally considered very good. Superworms are better than mealworms but not as good as crickets which in turn are not as good as dubia roaches. Dubia roaches, phoenix worms, hornworms, and silkworms are all very good.

>>2424726
*wood not would

>>2424726

Yeah, I can do that.

I don't anticipate it swaying on its own, but it may when I open it.

>>2424584
>What do I need to know?
How to get rid of a dead gecko

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Hey guys,bit of an emergency question

Girlfriend called me over saying when she got home her roommate told her the cat got in the tank of the bearded dragon somehow, I went home and checked it out,I'm not seeing any scratches or blood on the beardie, naturally his stress marks are prominent and he's staying very still and breathing shallow, he has one eye closed but I don't see any scratches or blood around it either, I turned off his lights for the night and had everyone leave the room and llocked it,what steps should I take next? Thanks in advance for the help

This is prob more of a newbie question, but how long does it take for ya'll snake to shed? Specifically ball python cause I've had mine for close to a month now and when I got him he just started showing signs of shedding and this week he finally had his eyes cloud over. His temps and humidity are all fine and I fed him beginning of last week. Is there anything else I should be doing to help with the shedding process?

>>2424760
Id atleast give him a saline bath or some antibiotic cream incase theres a shallow wound you might not notice
Cat scratches/bites are extremely prone to infection

>>2424784
depends on age/size/feeding
Small snake fed large items often will shed more than bigger snake fed more conservatively
As long as he is shedding its no problem

>>2424786
Alrighty! Thanks for the reassurance!

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>>2424784
My snakes usually shed every 1-3 months. That's regardless of age, species, feeding schedule, and growth rate. My conservatively fed snakes shed just as often as my more heavily-fed snakes do. The only exception is my sunglow, I'm not sure what's up with her shed cycles. She once went 9 months without shedding (unless I forgot to record a shed or two), despite putting on like 8" in length and 200-250 grams in that period of time. Pic is her.

>>2424785
Will do, thank you

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What's up with my african dwarf frog? Just bought him today and he appears to have some eye issues. I can't even see his pupils. He doesn't appear to react to things approaching him unless they touch him.

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>>2425105

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This has got to be one of the most beautiful snakes I've ever seen

I knew about spitting cobras, just not the red species Naja pallida. Absolutely crazy coloration it can have.

>>2425105
>Just bought him today

Take back to store. That doesn't look right to me. In fact i'm not even sure if your froge has eyes. It kind of looks like it was born without or it lost them somehow.

>>2425108
Eye is missing, something likely bit it out at the store.

Should heal up just fine though.

What does /herp/ think of pacman frogs?

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>>2425344

I like pacman frogs. They don't move around much and aren't 'entertaining' in the conventional way but I still find them fascinating. Something about a big fat frog buried in substrate to just below its eyes staring at me from across the room... it's easy to assume they actually control the universe and dictate the rise and fall of nations.

>>2425360
So...the average 4chan user?

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Any recommendations on taking care of glass lizards? Found a few in my backyard yesterday, unfortunately I injured one by mistake.

>>2425662
Return to yard and purchase a captive bred lizard if you want a pet.

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Found this dude at work the other day. Relocated him but he kept coming back and giving death glares as I worked.

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My female ...alittle full do to the soil staining

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She's super chill. When I forst got these guys, I couldn't even look at them without them hissing and defense striking..now I can pick them up and feel comfortable with it

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Now my male. This guy has barely warmed up to me. I do not go out of my way to make him uncomfortable so it's slow going but I have him pretty much handled like I do with my female

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Lastly is my pair of Gilas. They are captive bred and legally obtained. The pink one is my female and the Orange is my male. I love these guys and it has always been a dream of mine to have one. Not sure if I'm gonna breed, certainty not this year but thinking about it next year. My girl still needs to put on some weight. Besides that, these guys are pretty good as far as handling. No hissing or even flightyness. I do not wear gloves ( I know, not smart) but they havent shown any aggression or fearfulness. I understand that they are unpredictable buuuutt, I'm not too worried.

>>2426018
>My female ...alittle full do to the soil staining
Dull*

I'm moving into a van with my bearded dragon and girlfriend. What's the best way to heat her cage with low wattage?
I was thinking build a melamine cage with an undertank heater. I read that the melamine won't conduct very well so I'm not sure what to make the floor of the cage out of. PVC?
We plan on chasing decent weather so she'll get plenty of natural UV outside of her box and the van should stay sort of warm otherwise. I was thinking about doing a screen top so she could get UV when I had the windows open but I'm worried that all the heat would vent out and her cage would be much harder to keep at a good temp.

Would a UTH be good with her melamine cage? And with what floor? I was also thinking about making a Plexiglas cage instead of melamine
I'm asking about the lizard, not the girlfriend

>>2426023
>>2426025
do their nails need to be trimmed ever? they look uncomfortably long for them

>>2426073
what are you even going to power this with?
anything short of driving around in an RV sounds like a bad idea without a generator running
besides a beardie isnt really going to get anything out of belly heat, they bask so at the very minimum you'll need some kind of incandescent bulb with a ton of natural sunning

to be completely honest with you, you should probably try to find someone to rehome him to

>>2426099
They do. I actually just filed them about a month ago. They need it again desu. I'll probably do it sometimes this week but I have seen that their nails get pretty long even in the wild. As far as I have observed it's not really uncomfortable. They dig and burrow in their rack

>>2426100
Solar panels and big batteries with a big inverter
Her cage is going to be the highest wattage thing we have; avoiding fridges and that shit. If I have to put a mercury bulb in there, I can. I'd just prefer to avoid that.
Would a ceramic emitter with LED strip (I know the strips do nothing for her except light the place up) make her happy while basking?

>>2426112
a che would be fine as well i'd say

>>2425662
Are you sure you injured it and it didn't just drop its tail? I'd release it back into the wild.

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My pretty girl :3

>>2426917
How does your demon cat get along with the snek?

>>2426917

why is yer doggo radioactive.

>>2426917
You should move your thnek away from the kitty lasers.

>>2420764
For serious? Probably a Blue Tongue Skink or one of the more relaxed Monitor Lizards, but monitors get rather large and more than likely are way out of your league. Go for the Skink.

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I need help....my 1.5 years old rat snake has refused to eat for the past 3 weeks. He has always been an easy eater prior to that. Nothing temperature wise has changed. He still moves a lot in his enclosure and doesn't appear to have any sign of illness or to be particularly stressed out.

I've tried rats and mice but nothing does it. He slips right by them as if they were rocks. I have even tried to provoke him with the rats but he never even bothered striking at them.

What do? I'm pretty worried and I hate the vet.

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>humans

>>2427365
>I hate the vet

Why?

Anyway, 3 weeks hunger strike is a little unusual for a colubrid but not immediate cause for concern if snek is behaving normally otherwise.

>>2427520

It's always India and China with this shit.

>>2427602
>>2427520
Its fucking disgusting...no offense to Asia in general but seriously? Fucking backwards

I own a Colorado River Toad.

I haven't milked it's poison yet and I'm not sure I'm ever going to. Anyone else have experience with these guys?

>>2427520
Asians.

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I want to get a frilled dragon, can someone find me a pre-built terrarium online that will suffice? So far i found this but i'm not sure if it's big enough, thanks all!
>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=6016+6018+19794&pcatid=19794

>>2427782
You're better off searching craigslist for custom built iguana enclosures. Everything else will be too small for a frilled.

>>2427785
how's this?
>https://sacramento.craigslist.org/for/6206140187.html

>>2427793
Do you even have any idea how big a frilled dragon gets?

>>2427801
i understand, i guess it's kind of a temporary type of thing since the custom made ones (here) are like 400 bucks. I'd be getting a baby so i'd assume that would suffice for a while
>https://sacramento.craigslist.org/for/6174741958.html

>>2427805
You'd still have to upgrade soon enough. For an adult you're looking for something like a 5 x 3,3 x 6,5 feet enclosure

>>2427810
thanks for the answers, guess i'll just keep looking around on craigslist for a good deal

Looking into RHP's for my carpet pythons enclosure.
Anyone have recommendations? The 2 that I see recommended all the time are pro products and reptile basics.
Enclosure is 3x2x2 and will most likely have my ball move into it when the carpet most likely outgrows it. Have heard heavy praise for both with some minor negativity for reptile basics but have no clue if its valid or retarded brand loyalty

>>2427908
The Reptile Basics heat panels are fine. Most of the bickering about those two brands is about build materials and design. In my experience Reptile Basics panels are safe and reliable.

>>2427601
My snake is very relax and will come right in my hand if i present it to him. But he is the devil if you don't respect him. If he gets rough handled at the vet with his head held down against his will, he'll be pissed for weeks to come. I don't want to traumatize the poor thing.

I'm now pretty sure hes got a RI. I'm treating him at home with good results so far. If he keeps making noise and not eating by tomorrow, I'll take him to the damn vet.

How's red lettuce for beardies?
my guy has decided he finds it more interesting than the normal stuff
can they see color, is that how he can tell?

>>2429316

I don't see why it would cause any issues. That's cute your beardie likes it better than the green.

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Can someone ID this frog for me? Found by Lake Ontario in Toronto if that helps.

>>2429514
leopard frog

>>2429517
Thanks! He was super chill

>>2429514
looks like a young golden retriever

New thread time. Migrate at your leisure.

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>>2429541
I disagree it looks like a pit mix. Kill it with fire