I will receive a pupper for the first time in my life by the

it'll maul a toddler eventually and everyone you see out on the street while you're walking it will think you bought it to have sex with it's butthoel

You're probably in for a poorly trained dog that'll end up being put in a shelter because its owner had no idea what to expect. It'll also probably have an unstable temperament and joint issues as it ages because I doubt it came from a good breeder. Have fun, anon! Hope you don't give him to a kill shelter!

>>2298212
I'm okay with the toddler part, that shit sounds hardcore.

>>2298213
She will come from a professional breeder that raises them for competition. The guy usually sells them for about 800€ but my father's a business partner of his and he will pretty much give away the pupper for free as long as we treat it decently. Also, both of my parents had GSDs before, so don't I think they are setting the stage for a poorly trained dog.

Technically I'm not even owning the little shit, I just want to know what involves being in the same house where a pupper lives ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>2298223
>professional breeder
Anyone can call themselves a "professional" dog breeder. There's no such thing.

>800€
>thinking this is a lot or that price means anything

>both my parents have had gsds before
>thinking "they owned them before" means they'll actually be well trained

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>>2298228
>Anyone can call themselves a "professional" dog breeder. There's no such thing.
I don't know the guy personally but he does seem to have a business centered around breeding GSDs, and judging by the popularity of his Facebook page I would guess he does have some reputation. He even has a fancy website and all.

>thinking this is a lot or that price means anything
It's significantly more than the average price for one in Portugal, and price is generally proportionate to demand. Setting a high price alone doesn't make him a good breeder but it does correlate with his good reputation.

>thinking "they owned them before" means they'll actually be well trained
Just about everyone in my family remembers them fondly, my grandmother in particular always bragged about how my dad's GSD was the most docile creature she met. Exactly what makes you think they will be poorly trained in the hands of my parents? You're just grasping at straws to sound edgy and authoritarian, aren't you?

>>2298234
Generally anyone who can have a good business around dog breeding is cutting corners. Most real breeders tend to just break even.

>>2298237
>Most real breeders tend to just break even.
Hence why that isn't what he actually does in for a living. Either way, I don't see why the man wouldn't be reliable.

>>2298234
Puppy mills also have a business centered around breeding dogs. It isn't a sign of credibility. Popularity also isn't a sign of credibility. Literally any breeder even a little bit invested in dog breeding has a website and a facebook page. Are they health tested? Where does he get his breeding stock? What "competitions" are they bred for and how do his animals place in said competitions?

>but it does correlate with his good reputation.
The person who owns the giant "pit bull", Hulk, sells puppies for several hundred thousand dollars. Again, this isn't a sign of credibility or ethics.

>You're just grasping at straws to sound edgy and authoritarian, aren't you?
No, all your arguments are bullshit. If he was well trained, you're not convincing anyone with "they owned them before" and "my grandma liked him"

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>>2298252
>Are they health tested?
Obviously, he did give us that guarantee.

>Where does he get his breeding stock?
I have no idea, because once again, I'm not the one getting the dog. If something, I have seen pictures of the parents, and they both look healthy and happy.

>What "competitions" are they bred for and how do his animals place in said competitions?
Bogstandard dog sports, I guess? Like those things with obstacle courses and others in that category.

Once again, I'm not the one directly getting or owning the pupper and therefore I have no idea about the entire history of the guy, but exactly what evidence is there that he's an unethical breeder or that my family is somehow going to treat him badly? You're literally just making generic assumptions, do you always think anyone who has a dog will get it from a dog rapist?

Funny timing, ours just arrived today, though it's a dude. Gonna be work trained, this one.
Be ready for going outside like every 2-3 hours, and probably a lot of small cuts on your hands from tiny babby teeth.
Best take good care of that thing. Activate it plenty, both physically and mentally.
Be on the lookout for back and hind leg problems, if you allow it onto couches or beds or high up places id recommend making it a bit easier to get up as to put less strain on the end of the back.

>>2298267
Oh and be fucking careful with other dogs. Watch incredibly fucking closely so nothing happens, one bad enough experience and you'll have a dog hating dog forever. Ensure that it interacts with other doggos properly, that it gets to socialize.

>>2298260
A health guarantee is legally required in most decent countries, if that's what you mean. It's not the same as health testing for the congenital defects and other health issues that are so common in GSDs. There's no evidence that he's an unethical breeder, you're just claiming he's a "professional" and giving really, really terrible reasons why you think he's a good breeder. If "He's got a lot of likes on facebook and his dogs are expensive!" is how you decide whether a breeder is good, you really need to reconsider that.

Most dogs, especially shit overbred breeds like GSDs, come from puppy mills and BYBs, so yes, I do assume they come from awful breeders. It's not an unreasonable assumption because most people aren't competent enough to pick an ethical breeder.

You were the one who said you were getting a puppy and had no idea what to expect. I bitched at you because the situation you described would imply that you haphazardly purchased a dog and had literally no idea what to expect.

Not OP but if I get a GSD puppy as my first dog, would I be fucked? Would a lab be easier for a first dog? My fiancee has had many dogs (labs and border collies) throughout her life so I'd be leaning on her knowledge of how to care for/raise a dog.

>>2298711
If you want an easy first time dog, getting a puppy is a good way to fuck up. Find a rescue and adopt an adult if you're concerned. Labs are VERY easy to own and raise if you have money to throw at whatever health problems spring up and have time to give it exercise. I wouldn't recommend a GSD for a first time dog; a LOT of them end up getting skitzy and terrible because of how unstable their temperaments are when they aren't bred right and they get raised by newbies. Same thing about having money and time with them. If you insist on having a purebred puppy, especially from an unhealthy ass generic breed like a lab, gsd or golden, go the extra mile and make sure your breeder health tests for congenital defects like hip displasia and whatnot.
If she's used to labs and collies, i'd say labs would probably suit you better. There's also a lot of lab mixes available because of how common the breed is.

>>2298715
Thanks for the info. Still trying to decide, I do have time/money to throw at it. Are professional lessons a good idea? Maybe in a group setting with other dogs?

>>2298780
It's a great idea. Group training should be fine and will probably benefit any puppy. Taking your pup to "puppy kindergarten" is definitely worth it, especially if you end up with a GSD. It's a great way to bond with your new bud and ensure that they'll grow to be well-rounded and well-trained. I'd recommend trying to find a dog trainer who uses force-free methods. (i.e., non-cesar milan esque training)

>>2298205
Thousands and thousands of dollars in vet bills, probably a surgery or 2 for treatment of hip displasia and other defects, and just general health issues racking up bills.

>>2298942
So are you saying a GSD owner should purchase a simple and affordable pet insurance plan to eliminate all the grief you just stated?

>>2299233
I'm saying someone shouldn't get a GSD because as a breed they're ruined and they're nothing but health and temperament problems now.
I realize this is a gift so it's not like you chose it. So I guess yeah, get insurance or something, because you'll have nothing but problems as it grows up and it's joints and hips and elbows start exploding.

>>2298205
Be in command of your dog, don't be afraid to reprimand it, and show it lots of love. Don't be dumb enough to raise a dog if you can't do these things

I may have just got added to a wait list of my favourite breeder for one of these little buggers.

I've got an 8 year old one in the next room, though, and he's an extremely good doggo (he came to my fitness class in the park last night and was fine with 16 women running and flailing around, and he jogged with us for the jogging parts and chased balls thrown for him or relaxed for the other parts) so to be honest I'm not to worried. I know how to make a GSD good.

OP: You're in for teeth. I hope your parents know what they're doing, and how to nip mouthing in the bud ASAP because that will easily be the most irritating part of living with your new GSD for the near future.

After that you're going to have to work on socialisation with strangers and making sure the puppy has neutral or positive interactions with other dogs, especially during the fear periods.

You'll be in for an experience you weren't ready for. You'll love her

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Pic related is my first personal doggo (had family pups before). She's a GSD collie mix.

Take her to a balanced training class and stick with the program, smart dogs like to learn. Prepare for high energy, have somewhere in mind where they can run around freely, preferably daily. Backyard is a must.

Socialize the everloving piss out of that thing, I swear to christ GSDs are the most neurotic aggressive shit dogs these days, probably due to a combination of bad breeding and owners not knowing how the fuck to handle intelligent dogs.

Be one of the good ones, Anon. Have a well-trained and well-loved GSD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jW0J2l9so