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Tarantulas need not apply
Pic related. My H. Arizonensis
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Going to post a few more pics
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This is from his first feeding
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I should probably work. I'll post more when I get home.
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Well as promised here's more
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>>2058805
Here's the whole setup
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>>2058808
I just took these. Forgot to flip, my bad
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>>2058810
More than likely gonna put a lot more substrate in there. He is having issues like this with burrowing.
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I've got a quick question, two actually, I started keeping a praying mantis a while but I have trouble keeping the fruitflies alive. I bought a container with some live flies that was also filled with larvea and eggs. But aver a week none of them have turned into flies. Some entered pupa state but nothing happened since. I've kept them at roop temperature and with enough ventilation. It came with a layer of food for them. Did i do something wrong? I've run out of flies for a while now but no new ones are appearing. How do you guys keep your feeder insects?

Also another question, I got a tip from a fellow mantid keeper that he occasionally feeds his mantids some banana for sugar. Since i've ran out of fruitflies I tried feeding him a little meat and he loves that too. Is it okay to feed him that? I don't want it to harm his body.

Pic related, it's my Paradoxa mantis.
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>tarantulas need not apply
Rude

>>2059469
Beautiful mantis. I wish I could help you.

Oh I did have a house gecko once who lived partly on young fruit flies. I kept them in a half-gallon Tupperware with some cotton and gel cubes usually used to feed crickets. I'm not certain that's a proper diet for them because they don't really live very long and I just needed them to grow big enough to sprout wings. To get them out, cut a hole thick enough for a drinking straw to fit through. Stuff a straw segment with cotton and use it as a block, and any time you need to take flies out use a damp cotton swab - the flies will get stuck to it by their wings or legs.
Anyway I hope that somehow helps. Good luck!
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>>2059469
i know its acceptable to feed fleshmeat to american mantids so i'd say he'd be just as okay with it.
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OP back with another picture
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>>2059469

I wanna raise some mantises.
Wish I still had my dubia roach colony but I had to give it away.
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What does /an/ think about sea spiders? Are they bros?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV4SYSsnMug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK4KxKNqBbQ
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>>2060010
They're really fun to keep. Really interesting to watch and interact with. And surprisingly easy to keep. I've got mine in used yoghurt cups with holes in them on a 20 euro heatmat. You can basically feed them anything too, and they can go without food for a couple of days if they need to.

Ofcourse some species need something bigger than a yoghurt cup once they're grown, but usually you won't need more hight than 30 cm for even the biggest species. (the usual measurement is 3 times the hight of the mantid and twice the with for a good sized case)
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Cardisoma Armatum.
With an unusual appearence.
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Anyone have experience with these? I love how they look and live near LLL reptile who had some little ones for cheap. I imagine it's not much different than a tarantula though, probably boring as hell only he climbs and hides even more i'm guessing
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>>2060177
I also like these

wonder how hard it is to feed them
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>>2060177
put cork on the tank walls and glue some bark onto it to allow them to climb and hide. they are pretty simple, but yeah, mine barely left their hides. they just had their whips out, waiting for prey

>>2060394
really easy. just throw in some roaches or crickets. if they touch their whips they'll grab them quickly.
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>>2060177
Pretty easy to keep, they just need it rather wet and they need a lot of room for their legs (they should at least be able to fully stretch out). You can keep females together. Initially they will still fight to settle territories, it's all ritual fights though. Really fascinating to watch.

>>2060400
Mine are actually pretty active. I've got red LEDs above their tanks that I can switch on at night and they're out and active almost every night. They don't actually hunt from their little cracks in nature, they move away from them after they scout out their surroundings from their hides and stay in the open.
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>>2058805
>>2058389
>>2058387
pretty fucking adorable, cozy color
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I have a five gallon tank, deciding what to put in there. Is there any cool invert that would be fine in that space?
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>>2059680

I've done this before for an experiment and feed a bunch of different common Chinese male mantises a certain kind of meat from different hamburger shops.

Mcdonalds, red robin, fat burger, and other places.

Really weird how some actually started to look fatter then others. It got even more intresting when some of the mantises exhibited different behaviors. Mind you the cages were all designed exactly the same for them. The one who at mcdonalds would usally just hang on the floor and never climb his perch branch. The one who ate from fat burger was super active. The one who aye a burger from a local burger shop became more and more aggresive with me to get its food. That was for my high school final project thing. I wonder if I still have those paper notes.
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>>2060465
Thanks!

Also, question to everyone. I'm looking into getting a centipede, preferably the S. heros. Any tips? Or maybe just a general how to? I'd really appreciate it!
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>>2060394
if you aren't a night person they don't do much. mine goes on the prowl from about 11pm to 4am
>>2060177
until two weeks ago i'd have said very easy. but mine has been rejecting food lately, even running from some measly medium crickets, and no molt so far. it's stressing me the fuck out. how long does it take this bitch to molt? would giving her a little roach help...she's been downright voracious for months and all of a sudden she wants to go on a 15 days and counting fast
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>>2060143
they look very much like aliens
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>>2060727
>maybe just a general how to?
The absolutely most important thing is to make sure your enclosure is safe. You need something top opening or with a lid.
They chew through mesh and thin plastic, they pull silicon out of joints, they push open lids, they're fast as fuck so anything with a trapdoor isn't an option unless you enjoy a centipede on your face.
Other than that they're easy. No heating for most species, soil to dig in, light is unnecessary unless you want plants, no direct sunlight, feed often they're quite active, much more than scorpions or tarantulas. Always have at least one slightly wet corner even for species that like it dry.
S. heros needs it a bit warmer I think so you might need to consider a spot light. I'd start with a less aggressive and slower species though, like any Ethmostigmus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1609rCmfVLc
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>>2058381
dem bristles
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>>2061903
>They chew through mesh and thin plastic, they pull silicon out of joints, they push open lids, they're fast as fuck so anything with a trapdoor isn't an option unless you enjoy a centipede on your face.

Jesus fucking christ.

As if they weren't terrifying enough already.
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>>2061907
It's not as bad as it sounds, really.
Just don't do stupid things. Common sense and long forceps are your best friends with centipedes.
You just have to realize that unlike tarantulas and most scorpions they're actually aggressive and not varying levels of defensive so handling them is NEVER a good idea, no matter how docile they seem.

I have to admit though that when I discovered what my big S. galapagoensis did to the silicon in her enclosure I was quite worried, pic related. She has stopped doing that though, I think we're cool now.
Also, man, I need to clean this. It doesn't look that bad with the naked eye, I promise.
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>>2060177
I had two in a terrarium for about 2 years. Both would feed well and go through molts without problem. Then one day one had just finished molting and was eaten by the other. Not too weird but what happend next was. A couple of days after it ate it's tank mate the whipscorpion disappeared. Gone no trace of it. I tore about the terrarium and found nothing. Weirdly enough this has happend to me before with a firebelly toad, a vinegaroon, and a corn snake (though I ended up finding it's shed skin on my engine of my moms car so not as mysterious).
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>>2061903
Thanks! I'll certainly look into it!
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OP back again this time with an awesome shot of superworm feeding!
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>>2061903
>unless you enjoy a centipede on your face.
brb killing myself
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>>2060662
i hope to god you are telling the truth because that's hilarious. fucking supersize mantids. now i wanna know what would happen to roaches if you gave one water, one milk, and one milkshake. i can just see a little roach in a motorized scooter
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>>2064312

I'll see if I can find the report I write since it was back in 8th grade. I might have it on an old USB drive or something.
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>TFW invert threads hardly ever get posts showing off anons unique bugs and vivariums they keep them in

I wish this /an/ wasn't so slow.
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>>2060507
Literally almost any invert. 5" tarantulas, scorpions, whip scorpions, beetles, mantids, some smaller stick insects, roaches, you name it.
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>>2064416
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Asian Forest Scorpion
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>>2064955
Different angle.
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used to have one of these guy until he died recently. found him on a trip to new mexico probably one of the coolest pets ive ever had.
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>>2064416
She died a few days ago. No idea why, she was so totally fine just days before.
Still kinda sad, I liked her, she was a chill girl.
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>>2065499
This guy is completely fine though. He's a lot younger too.
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>>2065501
As is this guy. Hope he molts soon and gets his missing antenna segments back.
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>>2058381
How do i into scorpion keeping.
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>>2061903
>S. heros needs it a bit warmer I think so you might need to consider a spot light.

Bad idea. Centipedes dry out super fast. You don't want to see your pede constantly drinking water to try to stay alive. S. heros is found under rocks and other debris in the Sonoran Desert where the interface between the moist soil underground and drier object leads to a humidity of around 70% and temps no more than mid-70s. They come out only after a rainy period or at night when temps consistently drop to below 80 and avoid the sun like the plague.

Pretty much goes for all Sonoran arachnids. They don't like heat or even visible light in general. If you have issues with keeping temps above 60 in your house in the winter, a space heater is going to work best.

Majority of US desert species will prefer humidity. There's a big misconception that desert species = dry, but hardly any arachnid is found above ground. If you've ever dug in the desert, the soil gets moist as fuck a few inches below the surface. Burrows stay at 70% humidity at least.
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>>2067015
I honestly have no idea with what species to get or anything. I want something easy to care for that is big but wont require a massive cage.
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>>2067315
Just get what I have, pretty simple setup, possible 6" in length, not much space required, and it looks cool to boot! And when you pick a species, make sure to do your homework, the last thing you want to do is decide on a species and fuck it up.
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>>2067315
Hadogenes paucidens or H. troglodytes (pic related) if you want something that'll eat once a month and live for fucking ever.

Get some slate rocks and leave some room in between two slabs. I hotglued loose slate pieces between slabs in a variety of spacing so it could choose. I keep it in a 2.5 gallon tank. It doesn't really move around or do much, but it's cool to see on the rare occasion.
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>>2065499
>>2065501
What a beautiful color. Sorry for your loss man.

>>2064088
Cool shot
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>>2067452

That's a tiny stinger for a huge scorpion.
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>>2067990
he skipped tail day
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Lovely stuff in here.
I mostly keep tarantulas so this is my only scorp, Euscorpius tergestinus. Very small European species, about 7/8 of an inch from pincers to tail.
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>>2059469
keep m warm for faster hatching. also keep the food layer moist by adding some water.
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>>2067452
Reminds me of a body builder/strong man. Big muscles; tiny penis.
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>>2067452
How much would that cost?
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>>2068345
$25-50. Think I paid $35.
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>>2068393
Oh damn thats cheap. How much would a good setup cost? Whats a good website to get the scorpion from? What do they eat? Anything i should know?
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>>2068399
I have it in a 2.5 gallon tank (~$15-20) with hard packed sand on the bottom and a glued stack of slate rocks I ordered from eBay for $8 for 8 pounds. Here's a shitty picture of it. You can use a 10 gallon since those are more common, but the majority of the space won't be used by it.

Don't know who sells them right now. Found it at a reptile show. LLL is selling H. paucidens for $18 (http://www.lllreptile.com/catalog/152-scorpions-centipedes-millipedes-and-other-bugs). Might want to check up on arachnoboards classifieds (need an account) or post a want-to-buy there.

They eat whatever. Just make sure it's mobile and doesn't burrow. Crickets and red runner roaches are best. Superworms work if you hand it to the scorpion. Don't feed them a ton because they'll become obese and won't fit between rocks. You could get away with having just one flattish rock up directly on top of the substrate if you ever want to see your scorpion, because they'll wedge themselves between two flat rocks and won't come out.
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>>2060172
Beautiful crab. I've never kept crabs before, but have wanted to for a while. I'm considering buying a few Geosesarma sp. on the suggestion that they're relatively easy.
Anybody here have any experience with them? Any tips for somebody looking to set up a container on a budget? I've already done some research, got a few reputable caresheets and spoken a bit with keepers, but would still appreciate any suggestions. Or just more crab pics.
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>>2060177
Are they safe to handle?
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>>2068562
yes
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>>2068562
the worst thing that they can do is pinch you. and that's a last resort
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>>2060143
>>2060143
what. the. fuck.
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Hello, i'm going to be aquiring four milipedes, an assassin bug, and a centipede soon. What should I be feeding the assassin bug and centipede, crickets? And how often?
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>>2067064
I haven't kept any non tropical species yet so I didn't know that, thanks for clearing it up. I would of course inform myself before getting one. I just said to get a spot because the other option of getting a heating mat or something similar is certain death for any pede. I guess the rule of room temp for everything holds true then.

>>2069142
>What should I be feeding the assassin bug and centipede, crickets?
Depends on the size. The bug can get stuff that is almost as large as it is itself. The pede should get stuff that isn't longer than 1/3rd of its length and not much wider.
Crickets are meh, I prefer to feed roaches and locusts. Don't feed too many larva of anything (mealworms, superworms, etc.), they're full of fat and make your pets obese.

>And how often?
Can't really go by any general rule, you just have to get a feel for that. It comes with experience. The bug probably doesn't eat that much, maybe weekly or biweekly, just look at the abdomen size.
Pedes get more active when they're hungry, they generally seem to eat more than most other inverts.
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>>2069281
I don't think the local pet store offers anything other than crickets and maybe mealworms. What else can I do?
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>start keeping mantids a while back
>they're all doing fine, eating well etc
>except for one who is terribly late with molting
>should have molted in 2/3 weeks but it's been 6 weeks already, though otherwise he's doing fine
>take him out of his enclosure 2 days ago, he's pretty energetic, walking over my hands and computer for a bit
>put him back, check on him a few hours later
>his raptors/forarms are bended weirdly to the side of his head, almost like he's displaying aggresive behavior, but it's too loose, awkward for it
>figure he might be getting ready to molt so I leave him be and make sure his enclosure is humid and warm enough
>next day, check on him
>still in the same position
>touch him, he falls of the branch he was hanging on
>his limbs curl under him and he doesn't move
>ded mantis.jpg
>check him, nothings moving, stiff as fuck, tiny bit of moisture on his mouth
>feel guilty as fuck, maybe I killed him by taking him out, maybe my pc was poisonous for him, maybe i touched something poisonous before I handled him, maybe he got exposed to something bad etc.
>leave his crumpled body on top of his enclosure for a day
>mail the guy who I bought it from to ask what might have happened
>'Lol that happens sometimes, I'll send you a new one for free, no problem'
>kind of happy but still feel guilty
>pick up ded mantis body a day later to store it somewhere
>his leg twitches
>holy shit
>figure it might just be a post mortem leg spasm
>put him in my hands and softly blow on him
>all his limbs start twitching and he even extends one
>the more I blow the more movement it regains, but still incredibly weak, mouth and head are unable to move
>oh shit it's still alive after having lied dead on the same, unheated, spot for over 24 hours
>quickly put it in a warm, wel ventilated, humid cup, gently hanging it upside down by letting his legs grapple onto a branch i taped to the lid, since it cant do it by itself
>cont
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>>2069523
>continued
>his movement is regained a tiny bit, he can move limbs individually now, but still can't stand or anything, will only move if I force it by touching it.
>notice his mandibles/mouth is moving slightly
>put some water on a Q-tip and try to let it drink
>it tries and I think it gets some fluid inside
>try again a few hours later, this time use boiled, cooled down water with sugar and honey in it
>this time it drinks for real
>let it hand in his cup again overnight
>this morning it was moving a lot more. Still weak but almost capable of taking a step again.


Halp /an/ how do I save my bug? I l know it's very likely it'll die anyway but I want to try. What might have happened? And what might improve his health? It genuinly seemed dead for over a day. Sorry for the wall of text.
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>>2069525
It's fucked. It was probably unable to molt for some reason and is stuck now
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>>2065501
>>2065502
What kind of centipedes are these? theyre fucking awesome
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>>2069525
Don't get your hopes up, he's basically dead. Yeah, you can get them to move a bit if you heat them up and keep them alive with water but there is no recovery from this.
I think it's better to kill them in a humane way than to let them continue their suffering.
This really just happens sometimes and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>2069770
The blue legfed one is an Ethmostigmus trigonopodus in a pretty rare color form (normally their legs aren't completely blue).
The other one is an Alipes grandidieri, they're one of the so called "flag tail" centipedes and they can chirp when threatened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Q442yswr8
They stay pretty small.
I also have the "bigger brother" of these, Alipes multicostis that get almost twice as big but are also pretty hard to get, pic related.
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I'm getting one of these guys soon and I've been studying up on them. I've kept and bred other smaller millipede species before, so I'm pretty familiar with basic millipede care. Is there anyone here who's kept them that has any tips or advice?
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>>2060177
Very easy to take care of. Some basic care:

>tank size
I have a 12x12x18 tank and it's more than enough room for my damon diadema, so you could do with a smaller tank. Don't get a kritter keeper, too much ventilation to keep the humidity in and the younger ones can slip through the slits. They're cannibals, so I would recommend just one to a tank. It's really hit and miss as to how they get along, some people have better luck than others. Mine ate her roommate within an hour of being placed together.

>setup
Tank setup is super easy. You'll just need coco fiber, a piece of bark or log, and a cheap hygrometer if you want to get fancy.

Put some coco fiber at the bottom of the tank. The bug almost never touches the ground, but it's good for retaining moisture to maintain humidity.

Put at least one vertical piece of something like cork bark so it has a comfy, dark hiding space. A vertical space to chill is 100% NECESSARY. These adorable bastards molt hanging upside down, and if they can't they'll become deformed and almost always die.

>humidity and temperature
Humidity should be 70-80%, up to 90% is okay if you accidentally over-mist. Just mist the tank every couple days to maintain humidity. Temperature is ideally 70-80 I think; my room drops to 60s in winter and 80s in summer and they're still okay.

>feeding
Watching these guys hunt is fascinating. I feed mine a cricket once a week, sometimes more or less depending on how hungry she is. She usually grabs the cricket within a couple minutes of tossing it in the tank. If your bug is molting DO NOT put a cricket in, the cricket can actually kill them while they're vulnerable and squishy. Wait a few days until your bug has hardened up (isn't greenish colored anymore).

And that's about it. Probably, I'm tired and not really proofreading this.
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Bumpo
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Red cherry shrimp
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>>2065502
>>2065499

hey anon do you have larger versions of these great pictures? I want to use them as wallpapers.
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>>2058381
my blue crayfish pet trade name is blue lobster his tank is cycling atm hes very active at night and early morning he dont do shit during the day
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>>2069956
>>2069548
Mantis anon here. I know I probably should have listened and put it out of his misery, but after seeing seeing him struggle so much yet improve a lot over 24 hours I just couldn't deny the little shit a chance. I have been keeping him in a well ventilated warm and humid cup, I taped a twig to the lid and carfully hung his limbs on it. Gave him some water with a q-tip every day. Even fed him some mashed cricket at some point. He seemed to be doing better, though never moved on its own, but his tail looked unaturally bloated so I stopped with the water for a few days. Last night his tail looked better and I gave him a tiny bit of water again.

This morning I checked on him and he molted! Must have been a pretty rough molt because the skin of his raptors was pulled through the inside of his body, he probably hung by his raptors for a long time. When I first saw him he was completely done only hanging by the tip of his tail which was still stuck. I waited for a couple of hours and then carefully took of the lid and put my hand under him, which he grabbed and allowed him to pop out his tail. While he's still weak he's able to walk around again and keep his tail up in the air. He seems to have some nerve damage though, since all of his limbs twitch a bit when he moves. He's been trying to wash his backleg but both his leg and raptor twich a bit too much for him to reach. He seems pretty hungry though, but I'm not sure i should feed it or wait a bit to make sure it's safe. I'm pretty happy, if he had enough strength to molt there's a good chance he'll live. Though there's still a good chance he might die.
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>>2072281
Sadly no. I lost my lightroom database recently and all my edits are gone so I'd have to redo it and I'd never get it the exact same. Also these are focus stacked images which means 10x more effort for everything. I can give you a quick and dirty edit but it won't be sharp from front to back or nearly as crisp.
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>>2072921
I did just find pictures of my S. morsitans though. I never uploaded these for some reason.
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>>2072927
And I've realized I never actually even tried taking proper images of the big lady, pic related. If tomorrow is nice and sunny I might try that, though I can't do it like I did with the others where I practically have them out in the open and just let them sit there.
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>>2072927
>>2072921
thank you so much anon i love your bugs
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Bump
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One of my whip spiders just molted. She (he? can't tell yet) looks amazing.
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>>2075048
Oh right, anon might want this in high res (kinda shit quality though since 4MB file limit).
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>>2075051
And now she started turning blue. It was a very good decision to stay up till 5 AM for this.
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>>2075088
>>2075051
>>2075048
gorgeous man. how long did the process take?
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>>2060143
They're freaky, but they aren't even real arachnids.
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>>2065499
>>2065501
>>2065502
Idk why but these animals make by butthole feel weird.
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>>2075048
>>2075051
>>2075088


Anon this is amazing.
Like something you would see in a biology book.
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>>2075089
Do you mean the molting itself or the hardening process?
I didn't see the molting, only saw the old skin hanging from the top of the container. Molting takes between 10 and 30 minutes in any animal that molts usually.
The hardening usually takes 1 or 2 days but not in whip spiders, they need very long, up to a week. Which is why I was able to take these photos, otherwise I would have missed it. The white coloration (or rather lack thereof) usually only lasts a few minutes. In whip spiders it stays several hours. In fact she's still kinda light and greenish blue but I'm not gonna take any more photos of her, I think I've stressed her enough already.

>>2075138
Thank you anon. I'm going to edit and upload the rest of the images to my flickr later today, you can check them out there, I don't want to spam the thread.
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>>2075208
i meant the molting but no worries. mine hasn't molted yet. she's finally eating though so i guess the notion that she was getting ready to was a false alarm
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>>2075407
Look for her coloration, before a molt (even several weeks and when they still eat) it becomes slightly washed out as air pockets form between the old and new skin. You only really notice it if you have another one to compare it to which I luckily have.

Also I uploaded the pictures I've taken:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/frupus/
Shameless self promotion (._.)
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>>2075433
Thanks man. And great pics what camera you use
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>>2075517
EOS 7D (the old one, not the MKII) with the Tokina 100mm macro and a ring flash usually.
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Is there such a thing as the most intelligent insect?
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>>2075531
Not really. There are different levels of complexity in their behaviour but complex behaviour doesn't require intelligence.
The most intelligent seeming insect would probably be an ant colony when viewed as a whole (superorganism), it makes a lot more informed decisions and exhibits more complex behaviour than any other insect.

In the end they really are small and complex (and awesome!) machines though. To insinuate any kind of intention or emotion to their actions is really not reasonable.
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>>2075552
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>>2075553
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>>2075555
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>>2075556
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>>2075558
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>>2072921
Quick question; is this guy you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1609rCmfVLc
The centipedes and the tanks' condition look very similar.
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>>2075563
Yeah.
That video just exploded for no discernable reason.
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>>2075594
Centipedes are really fucking cool in small doses that's why
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>>2060143
I see ten appendages, so those are not spiders.
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>>2075617
Only because spiders happen to have 8 walking legs doesn't mean all Chelicerata have to have the same number.
Also spiders have between 14 and 20 appendages.
2 cheliceres, 2 pedipalps, 8 walking legs and 1 to 8 spinnerets.
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>>2075594
The Trump threads on /pol/ have likened him to a centipede.
That's why
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>>2075654
God help us if there are actually 4 million people on /pol/.
Or rather god help the jews, muslims and niggers.
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I had this little guy earlier in the year, he's a Gothic moth, Naenia Typica.
I need more cute bugs in my life
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posting a few mantis pictures
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>>2058381
I would like to do a desert ecosystem tank, but what predator species could I put in there without it becoming folly of man tier like my fish tank where the fucking chiclid ate all the other fish?
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>>2076004
This stuff doesn't work in a little home environment.
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>>2076005
I had a rather large tank with some wildlife native to my home in Utah. A few small lizards, a tarantula, a scorpion, and an ant lion. It did very well on a diet of small crickets for a couple months until I woke up one morning and it seems like the scorpion went John J Rambo and killed everything in the tank but the fucking ant lion.
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>>2076008
That's stupid. You're just throwing a bunch of predators together and hope they aren't killing each other immediately.
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>>2076009
Obviously it was stupid. They all killed eachother. That's what I said.
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>>2076012
Then why would you want to do it again?
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>>2076014
Because I have a god complex
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>>2076058
>>2076012
>>2076008
>>2076004
Please never own pets again.
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>>2076004
>>2076008
That's retarded and not how a terrarium works.
With very few exceptions (and none of those involving predators) you can not keep different species together in one enclosure.

To even try that you must literally never even have tried to inform yourself about anything related to keeping those animals or ignored it completely which makes you an immense retard.
Don't reproduce.
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How expensive is this hobby? I want to keep a Scorpion. Whats a good source for guides/etc.?
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>>2076627
Not very. A tank(or big plastic tub), substrate, hides, little water dish and food. depending on species maybe heating.

Dunno much about english resources, but arachnoboards is a huge forum for inverts.
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>>2076004
You can keep Banded Geckos (Coleonyx variegatus) and Striped-Tailed Scorpions (Hoffmannius spinigerus) together as long as they're near each other in size. They cohabitate in burrows under rocks in the Sonoran Desert. I found them huddled up next to each other dozens of times when rock flipping.

I wouldn't call it a symbiotic relationship, but a loose mutualism. The banded gecko definitely benefits from the protection of a venomous animal, but I'm not completely sure what service the gecko provides to the scorpion. Possibly helps in controlling ants that wander into the burrow which the scorpion is helpless against and/or serves to signal the scorpion that there's a visual threat (that the scorpion can't see because lolshitvision) like an owl or rodent approaching by running back inside the burrow rapidly. But aside from that, they have literally the same niche and diet and the geckos will mimic scorpion behavior like tail-raising threats. As long as they have a constant flow of food and a large enough space, the scorpion won't attack the gecko.

Then again, all bets are off if there's a gravid female of either species in the tank or an H. spinigerus from a wildly different locality. Superstition Mountains H. spinigerus are docile, but I have met some massive fucking asshole H. spinigerus from Tucson. Getting the wrong subspecies of C. variegatus might fuck it all up too. I can only guarantee this setup will work if you collect a C. variegatus and H. spinigerus from the same location in Arizona.

Other combined tanks you can do are:

Scolopendra species centipedes with isopods
Large roaches like Blaberus giganteus or any hissing roaches with springtails and isopods
Centruroides sculpturatus, Mesobuthus martensii, some other buthid scorpions can be kept in giant colonies
Poecilotheria species tarantulas can do ok in close quarters colonies but sometimes end up eating each other anyway costing you hundreds of arachnodollars
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>>2075919

Why do they always look like they are starring at me?
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>>2076999
the "pupil" is actually just an optical illusion.
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>>2076999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudopupil
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One of mine A. Seemani
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Does anybody know someone selling emperors in the states? Dont mind paying premium but can't find a single person who even gets them in rarely
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>>2078850
Tried Dan the Bug Guy?
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>>2078853
>>2078850
I meant Ken the Bug guy..
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>>2078853
>>2078854
I'm pretty sure you're talking about Dan the Ken Guy.
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Today I went out hunting for caterpillars and found a young Gothic. Here it is in comparison to my other, much older, Gothic
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I don't get stag beetles. I already attempted to keep them, had a big tank with lots of substrate and bark for climbing and hiding and all that stuff. But all they seemed to do was looking stressed, trying to climb up to the tank's ceiling and falling down over and over again. They kept doing this for several days and then died.

I've now got me stags again and it seems to happen again What the fuck am I missing? I do everything according to caresheets. Parameters are fine, food is in there, they got space to hide.
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>>2060143
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>>2078937
They're trying to fuck, anon. And you are denying them the sweet bug pussy.
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>>2075552
This thread is making me hate centipedes more and more, millipedes are cool, spiders are chill but man do i hate these creepy little fuckers.
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>>2078873
Just some guy
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>>2078854
I did but I havent seen him post any in a year or so
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>>2079110
Bet you didn't even want an emperor when they were $10 each. Just get a Heterometrus spinifer. They have more personality than Panshitus impenisator.
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>>2079197
I actually had one years ago. We have one at work just looking to get another for myself. What other scorpions do you guys like?
I've been thinking of getting centipedes but girlfriend is deathly afraid.
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What cages or containers do you guys use or like? Looking for something secure enough to put in best would be escapees
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>>2059469
I love mantids. They always pop up in my backyard during the summer.
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>>2060177
Reminds me of a spider crab.
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I think crabs are really neat. What are good starter ones? I like the halloween/moon crabs but I don't know how hard they are to take care of.
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Slugs collector, trying to collect and raise all north western land mollusks. So far have banana, leopard, common garden, European black slug, red slug(arion vulgaris) and a garlic snail. Pic related is my newest catch, translucent skin and white, no visible antenna.
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Help

There's a bunch of baby spiders in my bathroom
I live is Australia and I'm pretty sure they're huntsmans
Will they leave on they're own or will they just stay?
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>>2080632
Most will die and the rest will leave and distribute themselves throughout your house.
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>>2080632
they might be huntsmans, they might be wolf spiders.

Pray that they're huntsmans.

You'll be fine, just leave em.
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>>2064416
Awwww
They are nightmarish monstrosities I want to keep out to the point of having an arachnid.
Trust me. They are evil.
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>>2080609
>slug collector
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>>2078937
The beetles have actually calmed down this time. They were probably just nervous from the new environment. Now they are digging, eating and fugging. They are great, I hope they lay some eggs.
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My mantis died the other day. Of all the places to molt, it decided to do so on a low branch even when there's a higher one, so it came out deformed with the thorax bent. It survived the molt but didn't eat since then then died after almost 2 weeks.
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>>2080800
It sounds boring but they're very interesting.
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>>2080857
Mantis molts are so complicated, it sucks. I ordered one this week and it molted while shipping, losing 2 legs and bending one arm a little bit to the side. It's able to eat and hang from a branch, but I doubt it'll make the next molt.
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>>2080867
Yeah. Much harder to take care of than basic tarantulas or scorpions.

I actually had another mantis that I set free in the garden after the other one died. I kinda got bored of it. Don't worry, it's a native species.
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>>2078881
One of mine, Japanese giant silkworm.
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>>2080937
Great!
I love Saturniidae, I breed severel species of them
I can't wait until the season starts again and the first pupae start to hatch again


Anyone here has terrestrial Hermit crabs?
Hopefully none with painted shells or on shallow and dry sand..

Here is one of my C. brevimanus
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>>2080937
Top qt
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>>2076061
>thinking morality applies to non-autonomous creatures
I bet you get upset when people mow their lawns
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>>2083076
>I have a god complex
Morality is not the same thing as stupidity. Never go near animals again, please.
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Why are there so few cute invertebrates?
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>>2083141
Exoskeletons and bug legs are not cute.
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>>2083141
You haven't widened your mind to different perceptions of cute yet, man.

Pic related is cute. Get on my level.
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>>2075552
>>2075553
>>2075555
>>2075556
>>2075558
>>2075559
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>>2060143

Totally bro tier. I imagine keeping one alive at home would be difficult however most of them are deep sea are they not?
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>>2060143
Nice. Definitely bro material.
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>>2065499
That looks fuckin hardcore, is it poisonous or venomous,?
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>>2065499
Do you live in the US? Impossible to find any good centipedes here
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>>2083261
The gigantic ones who live in the arctic are deep sea only.

The smaller species are everywhere. Most of them are smaller that one centimeter. I've never seen one myself, but they should be in about every corner of the world, both shallow and deep. Don't know about how to care for one. From what I've heard, they're so weak that they can only prey on sponges and bryozoans.
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3 of my millipedes have died in a tank that has two others thriving. What could be the cause? Everything in the tank was a juvenile.
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>>2085649
Also, one was on the surface dead, the other two were curled up near the bottom with flakes of what appeared to be shell around them. The ones buried were soft and squishy, the one above was still hard. Could I have drowned them pouring water in for moisture?
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>>2085650
did you mix white rotting wood and dried oak/beech leaves into the substrate?
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>>2085698
I used the substrate that the online store I bought it from shipped me.
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>>2083141
Most of them are.

Black eyes and hair are the two most importand factors, and most arthropods have those.
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What tanks or cages do you guys like for more escape prone inverts?
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