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What would be a better bone segment to make the base of my 3D model; the bottom of the lumbar, or the bottom of the sacrum? Would this vary between a human and a catgirl?

Also, how agile are tails? Would I need a certain number of caudal vertebrae to be independently controlled?
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One more thing: What would be more appropriate to attach the legs to, the top or the bottom of the sacrum?
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>3D model
Are you making a figurine to print? A model for a game mod? A model to animate? Depending on your answer, your base will vary.

>Would this vary between a human and a catgirl?
The sacrum? Yes, it is where the tail attaches. Your base will stay the same.

>Also, how agile are tails? Would I need a certain number of caudal vertebrae to be independently controlled?
They are just as flexible as, say, a snake. Rig it with about a dozen bones. Real cats have more, but that will give you all the flexibility you need. Could use fewer joints by just keeping the middle of the tail straight.

>What would be more appropriate to attach the legs to, the top or the bottom of the sacrum?
Legs don't attach to the sacrum, silly, they go into the pelvis. Your hip bones do attach near the top though.
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>>2024029
A model to animate, and I'm trying an experiment in model topology where I see if I can get one model to be able to be roughly reshaped into numerous mammals which could save a lot of work.
And by leg attachment, I meant to ask which vertebrae the pelvis follows.

So, the pelvis follows the top of the sacrum? That's incredibly inconvenient, unless I decide to have it so that the base of the model with regards to posing is not the hips. I really don't know where I should have it.

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New bad owner rage thread? Last one hit bump limit
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>>2014924
Not sure if legitimately bad or just dumb.
>Have a grandma, grandpa died just over 2 years ago today.
>His last ~5 years were bad, she basically waited on him hand and foot.
>Naturally busy and caring person, she always had a hard time relaxing.
>After Grandpa dies, she adopts a dog.
>Holy shit this dog.
>Tiny ass Yorkie, less than 4 pounds.
>Looks like the one on the stairs, you know the one.
>She treats this thing like the last surviving member of its species.
>Carries him to go piss rather than walking him.
>She just ends the walk if they see any other dog or animal because she's afraid he'll go after it.
>Microwaves his food than adds her own diced meats to it.
>Puts him in a sweater, even indoors with the heater on.
>Bathes him weekly, even though he has no skin condition I know of.
>Leaves the TV on NCIS until she gets back home because otherwise "he panics and runs and hits his lil' head".
>It gets worse.
>[spoiler]She spoonfeeds this motherfucker.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]Straight up scoops his food and lets the cheeky cunt nibble at his pleasure.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]This takes anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes, longer if she's feeling lovey.[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]"But anon he don't know how to eat out of a bowl!"[/spoiler]
>[spoiler]He does know, I've tested it. Fucker gets indignant, but gives in after a while.[/spoiler]

I love my grandmother but this fucking dog. She has a chi also but he gets none of this treatment because he's a real dog. Fucking Oliver man. Little shit grins at me too.
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>>2014924

>Be 10 or so, living in CT
>Move into a small neighborhood, maybe 10-15 families
>Find out a month in that a horse woman lives neighborhood; cats everywhere
>One day very scrawny cat is getting attacked by this orange behemoth of a tomcat
>Run out and shoo the tom away; scrawny calico hides under deck
>Leave out cat food
>She eventually just decides to stay; didn't both to name her, just called her "kitty" because I'm a creative ten year old
>Manage to trap her (safely) and take her to the vet with parents; get her shots and get her fixed because there's cats fucking (literally and figuratively) all over the place
>Vet asks where we found her, mention crazy horse lady
>A week later animal control shows up to horse lady's house
>No one ever noticed how bad it was because she lived at the end of the court a few streets away from us
>Had: Horses, dogs, cats, chickens, goats
>None were fixed
>3/4 horses she had died within 6 months of owning them
>Dogs had 2 litters of puppies (3 adults, 13 puppies between them)
>Chickens lived in literal shit, many were decaying and/or dying and/or sick
>Cats she didn't do jack shit for; none were fixed, no shots, just let them run rampant and have kittens
>What was left of the goats was being eaten by the dogs
>All animals repossessed (the living ones, at least)
>Tried to trap all the cats; almost got Kitty by informed them that I'd been taking care of her and got her fixed/shots/etc. and they left her
>Crazy horse lady still tried to sue animal control saying that they were wrong and that all of her animals were sick to begin with

No idea what happened to her after that. I still don't know where she got the money for half the animals, but fucking hell, she was terrible. The areas she kept the horses in was maybe, MAYBE the size of an average bedroom; no more than 650 sq. ft outdoors. The "stable" was literally a shed that one horse could fit it. They got in fights regularly. It was bad.
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>>2014935
>The areas she kept the horses in was maybe, MAYBE the size of an average bedroom; no more than 650 sq. ft outdoors.

Fucking hell, that's not suitable for half a horse, let alone 4. What happened to kitty?

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Hey /an/,
I and my gf are buying 2 Bearded Dragons, but we can't find names that satisfies us.
Help us naming them!
Gender will be random, so shout out whatever you want.
(pic related)
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Biscuit and Cumfat, now fuck off
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>>2026126
Useful
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Name them after the two guitarist of ZZ Top

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FYI: Wolf eels look like the kind of grumpy old man that yells at Christmas carolers.
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When someone insults something you love.
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Opinion on cloning?

Will we ever see extinct species like woolly mammoth return?
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yeah sure lmao
let me know how it goes trying to get complete dna from fossils
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>>2022128
>fossils
Except actual mammoth bones and teeth have been found
They only went extinct like 2000 years ago
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Bring back tasmanian tigers please and then let us domesticate them.

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Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.

Google is your friend.
Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.

Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:
-tank size
-parameters
-any and all inhabitants + how long you've had them

Links:
>How to cycle your tank:
http://pastebin.com/x4WnB0Ah (embed) (embed)
>General aquarium care sheets - http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/
>Livestock and plants for sale - http://www.liveaquaria.com/
>FUCKING GOOGLE
>http://www.google.com

Old thread:
>>2016470
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Celsius master race here.

Here's some links to deprive poor Diana Walstad of income

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrk7xx959footwx/Ecology%20of%20the%20Planted%20Aquarium_%20A%20Practic%20-%20Diana%20Louise%20Walstad.azw3?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/njn703fa8i324q2/Ecology%20of%20the%20Planted%20Aquarium_%20A%20Practic%20-%20Diana%20Louise%20Walstad.epub?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9h9h1cmbd3bqhpm/Ecology%20of%20the%20Planted%20Aquarium_%20A%20Practic%20-%20Diana%20Louise%20Walstad.mobi?dl=0
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>>2021528
>women writing books
Moral decay I say
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Posting shrimp party.

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How retarded is your dog?
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>>2017908
dead
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I once had a dog that whenever I let him off the chain would run headfirst into the back door in his rush to get in.
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>just get home
>super retarded happy dog
>wagging tail so hard it's a dangerous weapon
>the silly bitch dented the trash can with her tail
>pic related, the trash can.

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Some guy posted this in a FB group I'm in. He claims it's a giant pole bean (green bean).

Obviously, it's not.

I think it's some kind of immature loofa gourd.
Thoughts?
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See the flat ridges?

Here is the site-
>http://robsrareandgiantseeds.com
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>>2025648
looks like okra to me
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More photos.
The guy with the website is pretty butthurt. I very politely asked a few questions, and asked if he had more pics. He basically called me a troll.

Do the leaves in this pic look like pole break leaves? Because they don't look like single, oval pointed phaseolus leaves to me.

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Why am I supposed to applaud them for not dumping this crazy dog they clearly were incapable of properly taking care of at a shelter?
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>>2025606
you were supposed to cry you autist
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>crazy dog
The only thing wrong with that dog was lack of training
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>>2025606
Animals and animal training are just infuriating in 99% of movies.

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>your pit bull is beautiful
How to respond?
/an/, please discuss my dogs genetic makeup based upon appearances
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>>2025510
Looks like he's 12,5% black.
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You have a pit bull. He looks like a thick-skulled bobble head of a roid hound. Mostly like also has a constantly dumb look on his face. This is a pit bull.
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>apbt

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>tfw you let out a huge fart
>tfw it visible startles your cat so she jumps

who else /mischief/ against your pets here?
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If my dogs sleeping and she farts it startles her awake and she'll stare at her butt like something bit her.
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>Rub peanut butter on my ass cheeks and around the rim of my asshole
>Invite dog over to lick me clean
>As soon as he starts tonguing my anus, I let out a huge, wet fart
>Faggot dog goes running across the room

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So I have to take care of a jardine parrot for 2 weeks because a friend of mine is going on vacation. That bird is extremely chill, lazy and doesn't give a fuck. Also tame.

Now I myself own a lovebird who is also tame and very playful. Now I thought taking them both outside their cage and let them meet each other would be a good idea.
Now the other parrot didn't give a fuck about meeting my lovebird, and my lovebird started attacking it.

The jardine was eating an apple so I don't know if it was trying to steal it or attacking.
I just took my bird away before any (possible) serious injuries. Does that mean they hate each other, or is this a normal way of "meeting" each other?
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Birds of different species may get along very poorly and even try to kill eachother. Or they may not, but it's best to just keep them seperated... you never know.
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lovebirds are known for being aggressive towards other species, it depends on the individual, but generally lovebirds don't mix well...

some birds can though, my green cheek and budgies get along fine (they play together, share food, and can chill on their shared playground no problem), and they're cool with my uncle's cockatiel (occasionally the cockatiel hisses at my green cheek and she runs away, but mostly they just preen each other or sit near each other), but i wouldn't immediately trust any other bird with them, especially depending on the kind
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>>2025782
Yeah different species sometimes have trouble getting along. What do you mean by attack?

At any rate it is best to only allow different species to interact under supervision so you did good.

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I'm buying a budgie soon.
What are some good sites/videos/guides I can follow to train it? I'm just talking training it to not be a loud fuck and to get attached to me, not bite etc
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>>2025743
There are lots of tutorials on YouTube. Look for the ones done by an adult and not 10 year old kids.
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>>2026000
That's going to be fucking impossible, anon. Especially when the videos are by ehow.

Look for a well rated book on amazon, or just google budgie care/training guides OP.
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>>2025743

girls are generally quieter than boys... boys will chatter, sing, and try to talk nearly all day whereas girls do that significantly less... but i like the noise personally, and most of it is pleasant (a lot of singing, chirping, trying to sound like r2d2 and saying "i love you" ) and it isn't overwhelmingly loud... though they do make a couple of terrible loud noises here and there, it's not a big deal at all and just kinda funny rather than annoying

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> be me, 19 years old
> meet this girl at college, year older, 8/10, redneck cowgirl chick
> couple months after meeting we start fucking.
> becomes regular thing
> one day need to find place without people.
> decide dirt aint a big deal, so we go to the edge of her cow pasture
> shit starts happening, making out among the cows
> clothing starts coming off and a cow wanders close.
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> she's topless and I, being mr. smooth, move downwards.
> cow shits right on her arm.
> doesn't freak out but kills the mood
> mfw I got cock blocked by a cow
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>>2025558
Now that's bullshit

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So I saw this on /v/ just now and have to ask.

What kind of crazy ass bird is this?
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>>2025546
>crazy
>ass
>bird

You just answered your own question
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It looks like a juvenile golden eagle.
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>>2025550

cool. thanks.

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