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Okay, /an/, let's cut the liberal mamby-pamby horseshit.

Does hitting a dog really fuck them up and make them worse?

I hear so often about controlling dogs by being the "alpha" in the "pack", in which case surely a dog that misbehaves would fully expect to get a smack around the nose or a boot up its asshole?

I'm considering getting a rotty and I'm sort of thinking a big dog-beast like that isn't going to listen to anything other than violence.
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>>2195885
Don't hit them, that's cruel. I use pic related.
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>>2195885
Being aggressive towards an aggressive dog will make the aggression worse. Think about it; a dog gets aggressive when it is uncomfortable (in pain, in fear), so to train the animal, you make it uncomfortable (via fear, pain).

Unfortunately, this method of training is often used on breeds known to have stranger and dog aggression (although it's not good for any breed) and, to make matters worse, is also often used to stop aggressive behavior when it actually makes it worse.

So it's no Hitler of dog training, but it's no helpful and really isn't dog training, when many people are misguided into thinking it's the only way to train.
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If you can't out-think a Rottweiler, heaven help you. It's not that difficult to control a dog without having a screeching meltdown and flailing at it.

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I went to the Mid-America Bonsai Exhibition today at the Chicago Botanic Garden. I'll dump the show and the garden's private collection. The exhibition trees are indoors, and the garden's collection are the outdoor trees that have a frosted glass backdrop.

Apologies for the low quality, my camera isn't very good.

I'm leaving out the few trash trees that were in the show that I didn't even bother to take pictures of.

Enjoy!
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I found this chicken,I don't want to keep it,what do I do?
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Call animal control I guess.
Is a a stray chicken safe to eat? seems kind of gross.
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>>2195117
ask it why it crossed the road.
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Throw it over your fence. It'll find someone elses' property to inhabitate.

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Are you guys doing you're part to stop the spread of invaisive species in you're area?

I'm trying, but it is hard to keep up.
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>>2195058
Please don't release aquarium fish into large bodies of water. Just flush them instead.
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>>2195060

I love otters. What can I say about them? They're too amazing.
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>>2194871
are they though? why are they amazing? make a case. bitch.
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>>2194871

Erryone lurves otters

<3
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Well for one, they are a great conductor on if the ecosystem is healthy.

Hello, I'm a big biology fan and I would like to get some information I'm interested in.
>1. Your country
>2. Birds you see most commonly in vicinity of your house (or in you town/city overall)
>3. Birds you can see in the nearest nature spot (closest forest/field/river/lake/etc.)

I'll start
1. Russia
2. Most common urban birds here are house sparrow, Eurasian tree sparrow, feral pigeon, hooded crow and western jackdaw, slightly rarer are rook, white wagtail and great tit. Common gulls are also quite numerous (and annoying) in some places.
3. I have a meadow not far from home, there I observed Eurasian skylark, Whinchat (pretty common meadow bird), what I believe to be Meadow pipit (or at least similar bird, they are very quick and small, and thus hard to observe properly), common house martin, barn swallow and common swift. I was lucky enough to witness a common kestrel hunting once.
In the nearest river mallards are very usual birds, but I have also seen what I believe to be a spotted crake (Porzana porzana) once.

Answers from people from tropical countries with a lot of birds species (Latin America and South-East Asia) would be especially appreciated.
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>>2192567
I'm rural southeast U.S. so I see pretty much everything in this part of the world.
From bald eagles to barn swallows.
Ruby throated hummingbirds bred like crazy at my place this year. My porch has 20+ all day long at my feeders.

Pic related is one of the coolest things I saw this year. Had a pair successfully breed in my forest.
Its a Mississippi kite.
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>>2192567
Canada

House vicinity:
Magpies
Crows
Sparrows
Sea gulls (in summer)
Chickadees
Nuthatches
Robins
Pigeons
Ravens (rare)

Nearest nature spot:
Canadian geese
Mallards
Coots
Goldeneyes (semi rare)
red winged blackbirds
Cedar waxwings (only in fall)
Peregrine falcons have a summer mest in this area
Swallow
I spotted a bufflehead once

There are some more but you have to be really lucky to find them. There are owls, hawks, eagles, I think hummingbirds, in the area.
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>>2192567
>1. Sweden
>2. Magpies, hooded crows, jackdaws, fieldfares, blackbirds, house sparrows, great tits, blue tits, wrens, common wood pigeons, common gulls, European herring gulls, white wagtails, robins. During summer, there are slo common starlings. Strangely, there are almost no feral pigeons here at all(although I occationally see one), despite the fact that I live in a fairly high-intensity area.
>3. the same as the above, but also mallards and lots of geese(of various species that I always fail to properly memorise)

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>Who would win in a fight?
Silverback Gorilla Vs. Grizzly Bear...

Description: They are in a field and are fighting to the death (no external weapons)

>Stats

I.Q. - "modern bear biologists accredit them with the equivalent IQ of the great apes"

>Silverback Gorilla
Height - 6' (standing)
Weight - 350 lbs (in captivity) "occasionally a silverback of over 1.8 m (5 ft 11 in) and 230 kg (510 lb) has been recorded in the wild"
Bite force: 1300 PSI
Top speed: 25 Mp/h
Weapons: Hands, teeth
Things to consider: Lighter = more maneuverability and their reach to make contact is extremely far as apposed to the bear.

>Grizzly
Height: 3'3" (at shoulder), 9'8" (standing)
Weight: 600 lbs (Inland area population)
Bite force: 1250 PSI
Top Speed: 25 Mp/h
Weapons: Claws, teeth
Things to consider: Heavier = harder for a lighter opponent to take out and their powerful blows will be accompanied by claws


Sources:
I.Q. - www.all-creatures.org/bear/b-bearintel.html
Gorilla height - www.worldanimalfoundation.net/f/gorilla.pdf
Bite forces - http://imgur.com/gallery/WB4VP
Gorilla top speed - http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/03/21/professional_fighter_vs_gorilla_who_would_win.html
All other info was taken from wikipedia
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>>2189899
Harambe has memes behind him.
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Please stop making these threads. The bear absolutely wins, 100% of the time.

This is a completely uneven match, it's like asking "hey guys what wins in a fight, a pitbull or a hippopotamus"
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Even though I like bears more, I think the gorilla would win in a fight.

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post your cat
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It had kittens!

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I need a name for my praying mantis. Please be very creative
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>>2186010

Ikko Ikki.
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Why are they so docile towards humans?
Are they just incapable of fear?
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>>2186035
I dont know. I never thought about that

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Can we get a speculative biology thread going?
Starting off by posting sapient dinosaur concepts.
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>>2178921
Have an actual sapient dinosaur.
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It seems most other similar projects tend to speculate on elevated cleverness evolving in the Paraves clade, and this makes sense: We know some of the most intelligent extant organisms on Earth (outside of the primates) are birds, especially the crows and ravens, and certain parrots. Some of their closest extinct non-avian dinosaur relatives are the Dromaeosaurids and Troodontids, and these animals are popular points of departure for speculative evolutionists. The Maniraptoran clade (of which Dromaeosaurids, Troodontids, modern birds, and Oviraptorosaurs are all a part) has some key attributes that we share: On Earth we have only one data point for human-level intelligence so far, so it seems logical to me to look for other organisms with similar traits when speculating on potential evolution of advanced tool-using intelligence – traits like large brains, high brain to body size ratios, grasping appendages (useful for manipulating the environment), bipedal motion (to keep those grasping appendages unoccupied), living on land (as smart as dolphins are, it would be hard to use fire, smelt metals underwater), and a social structure that puts selective pressure on the ability to out-think and/or cooperate with others of your species.

Personally, I favored the Oviraptorosaurs in part to differentiate my own fiction from the rest. Oviraptorosaurian brain/body ratio may not have been quite as high as that found in the Troodontids, for example, but they do have one additional interesting trait that is similar to our own hominid forebears: probable omnivory. It seems to me that hominid and corvid intelligence may be at least partly linked to social interaction with conspecifics, but also with problem-solving to exploit different food resources. The Dromaeosaurs and Troodontids, it seems, were more likely obligate carnivores and thus would have less evolutionary pressure to develop interesting techniques for obtaining food. That, and I think Oviraptorosaurs look really cool.
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>>2178923
The carpus is the keystone,
or keyBONE.

the non-pronating semi-lunate carpal was more useful for bashing the air with feathers than bashing bones with rocks.

when you look at the ridiculously tiny differences that made all the difference you begin to seriously question Drake's equation. So many things that have to go just right...

what about Iguanodon with its opposable finger and spike? There's a better candidate.

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Can we have a non-dino prehistoric animal thread? Please?
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sure
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>>2168282
No, only dinosaurs are allowed. Discussion is also limited to whether or not T. rex had feathers and nothing else.
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Is this thing fucking real?

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What's the smallest creature that can have a carcass? For example, if you find a dead cockroach's body, can it be described as a carcass?
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>>2198418
they all do they will just spend less time changing from dead thing to a bunch of loose atoms
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>>2198418
a cell
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>>2198418
GIVE ME THE DELEGATES, DOGNALD

thanks
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I'm going to guess wrong board? I'm not clicking those links

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>Dog likes to lick my legs right after I get out of the shower.

Why this /an/?
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>>2198402
Because they do it to dry themselves. Wet dogs will lick the water off each other, like grooming and stuff too
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>>2198406
Why are dogs so fucking bro-tier?
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>>2198421
Because we literally made them that way.

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What's a good reptile that doesn't need live food and isn't a turtle or tortoise?
I'm considering snakes, but want to know if there are any lizards who fit this quota other than Iguanas, which wont do because FUCK HUGE
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like a uromastyx?
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>>2198258
I thought those guys were omnivorous and need crickets every so often?
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>>2198260
Uromastyx are straight herbivores.
I would say most large monitors, but you don't want something fuckhuge.

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