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So, if you want women to like/want you then you'll have to do the following, right? :

Never tell her how pretty/gorgeous she is.

Always be confident and cool (even if you have to fake it).

Never tell her how she makes you feel.

Don't let her know a lot about you, always be mysterious to keep things interesting.

Make sure your life's in order before you ever choose to pursue women (who are 18 and older) for example:

>Have your own place, apartment or even a shared dorm room.

>Have your own (motor)bike or a car.

>Have a decent job, show them you have potential or at least be a college student.

If there's something here that isn't true (doesn't add up) then please let me know why.
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>>18512502

wrong. i tell girls how pretty they are all the time, i tell them how they make me feel, i open up about my life, and have never owned a car (thogh I live in a city right off the blvds so having a vehicle isn't as important as it is elsewhere).

also theres plenty of guys who are just waiters or bus boys or working retail with girlfriends, and yes they have hot girlfriends too.

at the end of the day all a relationship takes is being as attractive as your desired partner, and not being a complete mess.
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You don't have to do any of that shit. It helps to do at least some of it.

Honestly, man, it's just NOT THAT HARD. There's a small minority of guys who truly have no luck, but 99% of the time, when a dude has trouble getting laid or getting a girlfriend, it's because he rarely approaches women, not because he's undateable.

Here's a more realistic list.
>don't be a total pushover
>don't put her on a pedestal
>don't be a completely boring conversationalist
>practice good hygiene
>if you don't have a job/car/apartment/whatever, be taking some kind of measurable steps to improve your situation

You'll notice that list is also what you need to do to be a minimally functional adult, i.e. shit you should be doing anyway.

Do those things and also regularly approach women and you'll find one who likes you sooner rather than later, I promise.
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>>18512520
>at the end of the day all a relationship takes is being as attractive as your desired partner, and not being a complete mess.
I know what you're saying, but even people who are a mess get into relationships.

OP, there are millions of guys out there who have none of what you say men need to have and do none of what you say men need to do, and they still get women. So basically, you're wrong.
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>>18512502
If you never tell a girl she is pretty, she'll get a little depressed, because she will feel ugly and that you merely "settled" for her. She will have no self-worth and may just break up with you.

If you keep mysterious, she may just assume you're cheating.

Do t worry about being confident

Give her the emotions, you twat
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>>18512502
i break literally all these rules from day one and have an active dating life
i'm even a neet and drug addict who dropped out of high school
i am the lowest of the low and i've dated some great girls that aren't garbage white trash

and i'll tell you what it all really comes down to

it all comes down to absolutely nothing

women are empty like the rest of us and will date you if you're decent to be around and don't look like a weird monster
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>>18512502
Out of that list I only tick college student, but I'm hardly ever single.
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I think the opposite's true. I fit all of these except I am not confident. I have never had a girlfriend in my life and have only been on a handful of dates. I'm 22. Let me dissect these:

>Never tell her how pretty/gorgeous she is.
I don't tell women how pretty they are.

>Always be confident and cool (even if you have to fake it).
I'm never confident but I'm always cool, and I always fake confidence. This might be where I fail I guess.

>Never tell her how she makes you feel.
I have never done this.

>Don't let her know a lot about you, always be mysterious to keep things interesting.
If you don't let her know a lot about you then to her you're just a vanilla person to her.

>Make sure your life's in order before you ever choose to pursue women (who are 18 and older) for example:
Yes, I have my own place, a great job and my own car. But I am guessing not looking like a total loser helps.
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I tick most of those and I'm still a virgin. Honestly I just think for some of us women are literally impossible.
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It all depends on your appearance.

If she finds you hot, these things are only going to make her more turned on, if she doesn't find you hot it's going to do the opposite.
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>>18512586
>> women are empty like the rest of us and will date you if you're decent to be around and don't look like a weird monster

this, mang. just start taking initiative, make some plans to go out on the town. go ice skating or some shit. the hoes will love it
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>>18512502
>Never tell her how pretty/gorgeous she is.

wrong. chads and betas do this. they're not afraid of what a girl thinks. holy christ you're so fucking insane.

>Never tell her how she makes you feel.

LMAO? how else is she supposed to know you like her? meanwhile, chad is vocalizing how he feels and going after what he desires.

>Don't let her know a lot about you, always be mysterious to keep things interesting.

lol wtf? take off your enigma fedora fucking twat


god i realized this is just shit bait, 0/10 good luck in life dumbass.
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>>18512711
This isn't bait, I'v seen plenty of guys (young and old) get women just by having the things I listed.

I see this happen on a weekly basis, I have nothing to lie about.
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I still think it's all random, OP. It's just like you throw a metaphorical dice and if you land that number you get the girl. Maaaaybe having a bunch of those things means you metaphorically can roll a smaller dice with less sides. But it's still all random.
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>>18512502
>Never tell her how pretty/gorgeous she is.
Do it, but moderately. I don't want a guy telling me how pretty I am 24/7, but I do want to be told I'm cute.

>Always be confident and cool (even if you have to fake it)
It's super evident when guys fake confidence. Just be nice to hang out with and not terrified of taking to me.

>Never tell her how she makes you feel
The sexiest thing a man can do is being vulnerable and honest about his feelings. Few things get me hornier than emotional intimacy.

>Don't let her know a lot about you, always be mysterious to keep things interesting.
Then why would I like you? I like getting to know people.

>Make sure your life's in order before you ever choose to pursue women (who are 18 and older)
That's partially true but not super important. Like, obviously it is harder to have a relationship if you live with your parents, have no way to meet up with me and have no money to spend to do shit together.
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>>18512502

There's no master code. Even a broke ass crackhead can get a gf. The point is to connect with people, to have fun and to make them feel what they want in s relationship (safe, adventurous, loved, whatever.) That's how they like you.

If they make you feel what you want, then you can both enjoy being together.
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There is a book called The Rational Male, it's also a blog. Check it out my fellow anons, it will change your life
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>>18512545
>If you keep mysterious, she may just assume you are cheating
Wrong. Wrong a fucking million times wrong. Being mysterious is key, if you open up and do all that gay shit, you are no better than beta cucks.

Let me ask you this, if she has assurance that you are 100% devoted and will follow her until the end, what kind of incentive does she have to reciprocate any kind of desire at all back to you. Women want to fuck men who men want to be and women want to fuck, and a key part of that is keeping the mystery up and letting her imagination run wild. Women work in in the covert. Believe me, if you are genuinely mysterious, she will fuck you senseless every chance she gets.
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>>18513308

The problem seems to be that you worship women. If you have your own shit and your own self respect, then you can be honest. After all, she isn't your whole world. Don't let her be more important than yourself.
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>>18512711
What people mean by being mysterious is mostly just not spilling the emotional beans as soon as you meet them and confessing your life story and/or love for them.
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>>18513314
I am not too sure how you figured whether or not I worship women? Personally I am a firm believer that a healthy relationship is about having respect for yourself and your partner, but for men, understanding game theory is key to understanding how to get women, and mystery plays a role in that.
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>>18513315

If you "love" them as soon as you meet them, you seem like a teenager. Romeo and Juliet is about how dumb love at first sight is.
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>>18512502
It's mnore like,m be conditional, you know? Make her earn what compliments you give her.
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>>18513325
>if she has assurance that you are 100% devoted and will follow her until the end

Yeah, that's valuing her more than yourself. You are saying "hide what you feel" so I assume you feel this way. Am I wrong?
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>>18513299
This is true. It sounds cheesy that you need to just try, but you don't need much at all.

There are countless alcoholics and other addicts with unstable lives that manage to get laid and girlfriends consistently. While having some basic things down like hygiene and not being completely homeless are required, the rest is just connecting with the right people. Expanding your social skills in order to connect to a larger variety of people deeply is what will get you more success with people.

That's why uptight, successful people just get used or get no attention at all, yet socially loose people give good vibes through being adaptable, making other people comfortable, and being relatable/interesting. This is why so many people on 4chan have trouble with women. They are withheld and intolerant of differences even if those differences are innocent like different tastes in media. They have a low amount of skill in connecting with other people, so they try to compensate through success through money, fitness, or achievement (not saying those are bad things, but in this context they are just excuses). They think this will get people to respect them passively so that they won't have to challenge their real fears of trying their luck with people in the real world and improving their own personality. They want their elitism to be a magnet for people so that they themselves don't have to change, but it doesn't work out that way most of the time.

For friends and girls, charisma is the redpill. I suggest reading "The Charisma Myth". It's short and helpful. Most of all, one should try to connect deeply with people to the best of their ability and to give new people a chance. Be more open and conquer your fear.
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>>18513308
>if she has assurance that you are 100% devoted and will follow her until the end, what kind of incentive does she have to reciprocate any kind of desire at all back to you?
It is about balance. I've been with my husband for many years.
I know he is devoted and he would do anything for me, but I also know that there are some boundaries I don't have to cross otherwise he wouldn't think twice and leave me.
You have to make a woman feel like you respect yourself and you wouldn't forgive her if she crossed certain lines - but, on the other hand, it is fundamental to make her feel like she doesn't have to fear losing you and you're by her side whatever happens. Otherwise she'll look for that security somewhere else.
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>>18513327
Who said I love them as soon as I meet them? I believe I mentioned something along the lines of that above, however the point I was trying to make is that it's not a way to behave.

>>18513335
I'm not quite sure you're understanding my point exactly, but I'll admit I could have worded it better.

Mystery isn't necessarily "hide what you feel", it's "don't tell them everything about you and your life as soon as you meet them". My point in the statement you quoted (which I went on to make afterwards) is that mystery plays a role in a woman's ability to assess your current sexual availability. Furthermore, it's not that you have to assure her of your exclusiveness, or that you have to be exclusive, but rather that her perception of it is what will drive her opinion of you.

>>18513352
You have a point, of course this is fully dependent on what either person wants out of the relationship.
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You just have to be physically attractive.
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>>18513358
>Who said I love them as soon as I meet them?

I didn't. You said:

>not spilling the emotional beans as soon as you meet them and confessing your life story and/or love for them.

You were talking about "love" here, and you said "as soon as you meet them". I'm just pointing out that "loving" someone as soon as you meet them is pretty dumb. You don't know them. Do you do that?

>"don't tell them everything about you and your life as soon as you meet them".

So, if there is something to tell, then you really feel it.
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>>18513379
When I said love I was being sarcastic in that particular point, and by not telling them things, i mean things about yourself, your past etc.

Obviously you can't keep it up forever, but just blurting it all out is counterproductive.
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>>18513391
>if she has assurance that you are 100% devoted and will follow her until the end, what kind of incentive does she have to reciprocate any kind of desire at all back to you?

This is not about the past.
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OP, have you ever seen those girls saying "I want to leave my bf, he's so perfect and supportive but I just can't be with him"?

That's what happens when you show weakness and when you share your feelings with her. You should be warm to her but never show weakness or reveal your inner world. That's the fastest way to bore her. As long as you keep her trying to break into your heart she'll stay with you, the moment you spill the beans you're toast. Shell just find somebody else to figure out.

And same shit with being available to other girls. Women love it when other girls are jealous, if no other girls show interest in you she'll feel like she's with a chump.
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Please for the love of God do not listen to any of this advice. I just ditched a man because he never told me I was beautiful, even though it was clear he liked me, but I don't want to be with someone like that. Why would I ever want to be with someone who doesn't make me feel comfortable and not insecure? Making women feel insecure only to make yourself feel more so will only make them hate you, and you hate yourself. Just be honest. If she like you she likes you, and if she doesn't then stop trying.
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>>18513398
It's logic, plain and simple.

>>18513410
This.
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>>18512520
Everyone listen to this man.
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>>18513410
Do you have a girlfriend? Just wondering.
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>>18513421
>It's logic, plain and simple.

But the point is to avoid feeling this way, not hiding it. Realize no person is more important that yourself, and don't make your partner the centercof your life.
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>>18512502
>Make sure your life's in order before you ever choose to pursue women (who are 18 and older)

This is true, the rest I'm not so sure - yeah, treat em mean, keep em keen.
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>>18513438
Ok? When I made that point I was talking about men who meet women and go full beta male, and you make an important follow up point from that. One of my favorite quotes from Rollo Tomassi is that women are not a goal of life, but a prize. Live your life well, consistently work to improve yourself and the women will come.
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>>18513410
I would leave a man if he treated me like this, and have, I don't fuck with jealousy.


If you want a girl to be real with you, you gotta be real yourself.

Yeah there are a lot of fake bitches out there, but what the fuck are you doing talking to them?

You guys are both the types of men who, think that you need to act like this because the women you're hitting on are turbo thot and super hot bitches. You're the type who are probably ignoring a regular girl right now who already likes you, in favor of fruitlessly trying to manipulate some ultra bitch who don't even want you in the first place. You deserve every ounce of rejection you get for this.

Not to mention this faggoty insecure male behavior carries on to next relationships and causes a shit load of problems. We can smell your insecure bullshit a mile away, which is way WAY less attractive than being upfront and candid.

Negging is so 2010. You're living in the past and you don't deserve any woman who actually likes you back.

Enjoy your lifetime of aloneness thirst neg commenting on porn star and insta thots photos.
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>>18513455

Women are people. Just like your male friends are people. Living well will make easier to meet people, but you are ot owed their time by any means. We don't earn people.
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>>18513470
I see how my point can be misconstrued, but let me explain. The quote is about men having a healthy view of their relationships with women. Men who unjustly idolize every woman who is so gracious as to look their way are the same men who complain about the wife being the boss, getting no sex and have had their wife cheat on them multiple times.

The point is to respect yourself enough to realise that your life doesn't epitomize with women, but rather that women, and by extension healthy relationships are a fruit bared by a full and productive life.
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>>18512502
If you want to do it right.

If you want to be a cuck the listen to all the posts above me
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>>18513479

I agree with not putting people on pedestals, but again, women are the fruit of nothing.

As I said above, a broke ass crackhead can get laid. Living well doesn't earn you female attention. It's not a prize from the universe.
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>>18512502
keep in mind that there's a big difference between women just wanting you and women wanting to stay with you
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>>18513462
See the sense of unease you feel about men making sure they have options? See how you try to shame men because they actually go for the hot women instead of immediately settling because you, in your ever so gracious womanly ways, showed a bit of attention to him? Do you see how were the roles flipped the man would he shunned for being a disgusting mysoginistic sexist homophobic transphobic woman hater wife beater?

It's this entitlement that's led to the rise of the modern beta male, and it's also why modern relationships are so fucked up.
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>>18513488
It may not earn you attention, I can agree to that, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier.
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>>18513489
Well let's be honest. Men 9 times out of 10 just want sex. So women wanted them is enough
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>>18513495

Yes, living well makes it easier to connect with people. Just don't expect it as a reward.

Also, I'm a dude.
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>>18513506
The reward mentality is mostly around how you structure your lifestyle, not necessarily ones entitlement to female attention.
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>>18513429
Yes I do. Believe it or not these things actually work.

>>18513462
You sure got worked up over this.
What even made you so angry? I am not talking about treating women badly or abusing them or anything. I'm just saying men are like cars, nobody wants one that nobody else wants, and that keeping very clear your options are open are a great way to keep your girl interested. Same shit with the feelings, girls don't want you to be their emotional tampon, they want you to be your partner. Women love the chase of getting you to open up much more than you actually opening up.

I'm quite sure my gf loves me very much (and so do I, no matter how much you want to call me a woman hater) so I guess after all people like me do deserve somebody who loves them back.
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>>18512502
I'm really trying to help retards like all of you, since I just dated one and it was all too obvious he too retarded advice like this. I broke up with him for it.

You only need these things if you're still pursuing her. If she replies to you actively and says she likes you, but you're still acting this way and won't open up to her or tell her how you feel or that she is pretty, and continue hitting on other girls in front of her, she will leave. What kind of message are you trying to send?

Yes I have broken up with a man for not telling me I'm pretty, so yes, your opinions do matter. What about it? If she likes you its only natural for her to want to get closer... by acting like that you will cause confusion and upset her and make her hate you and eventually break it off (like i did). Your insecurity is showing when you do this shit. Its like you think you're not good enough on your own. What a turn off. Only betas follow online advice like women are some sort of handbook.

Imagine using this on a girl with major insecurity issues? Yeah you might make her stick around but your relationship will be hell for both of you I promise. The flirting with other women coupled with not telling her she's attractive to you... what the fuck? Why would I ever date someone like that? Like come on.

Like I said above, everyone using lame internet advice for betas on girls who already like them deserve to be alone for life, negging Lauren Southern through twitter comments which are never replied to.

Makes you think huh? If your negging acutally works, why doesn't Lauren Southern or any other e-thot ever respond to them? Hey its fool proof advice though right???!! (cough cough beta cough)
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>>18513517

Any reward you expect is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Life is not fair, so don't expectcto crack the code and win what you want. Not women. Not friends. Not success. You aren't owed any kind of reward.
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>>18513500
Can't deny that.
But not knowing the difference will eventually lead to "I get the girls, but I can't make them stay//All my relationships fail" or "I seem to attract only sluts and crazy girls"
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Look man, the whole redpill shit, alpha/beta shit has really changed in the past year or two. Women are onto the tricks you use here, and it is making you look insecure like the woman(?) above me just stated in length.

It depends on the girl.

Some have different needs than others, and while this does work on some, it will crash and burn on others. Love is about getting personal and getting to know someone so you can both fulfuill. If she leaves you because she's bored but you're supportive, you didn't do anything wrong, she's just a whore and you shouldn't be with her anyways. This is what dating is about. Its not like some manuel to repair a car. You have to sense what they need individually.

I did hold back from my girlfriend for quite some time, but when I finally did begin to make her feel good about herself (rather than shitty like your post wants) the SEX was so much better, everything. She cooked for me, she opened up, I felt comfortable to dote on her as much as I want... and that's what love is man. Its not some stupid handbook or game with rules. Its so much more satisfying this way. Man I love her. And I'm not so beta I can't post that on a board. I love her so much.
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>>18513500

Not really. I want the relationship. I'd say it is 50:50. Stop this meme immediately.
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>>18513523
Negging is stupid.

That being said acting like the OP says is still better than opening the floodgates. My first gf left me because of "baggage" which is fair but taught me you need to share only what is strictly necessary and it's much better to err on not sharing than sharing too much.

Nobody ever says to be cold, either. Just not disclose your feelings often.
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>>18512586
This man knows what he is talking about. I'm an alcoholic NEET and have no issues getting women. Just don't be fucking ugly and be fun to be around and you're set.
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>>18513297
>taking hunting advice from the prey
Never do this
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>>18513658
I am sure that taking advice from people that never managed to have a long term, happy relationship is better.
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>>18513658

Yeah, it's not about people talking like people. It's about "preying" on women.
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>>18513669
Probably still less silly than taking advice from people known to say to want X and actually want Y
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>>18513676
Maybe try to actually listen to women and not just explain to them what you think they want.
I know what I want in a relationship and have zero issues explaining it.
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>>18513658
There's truth in this, unfortunately. As much as I want to respect the female perspective on this, fact is you can't listen to a fish when it tells you how it wants to be caught.

It's like, my best friend is a woman and we talk with each other about shit that goes on in our relationships and dating lives. And over the years we've learned to really respect that being male/female does not really grant us authoritative insight into the behaviors of our respective sexes at large.

I've had to concede that as well as I know ME and can tell her what I would be feeling/thinking in a given situation or what I imagine most of my males friends would do and shit like that, that at a certain point she actually knows men FAR better than I do in many respects. She has years of experience dealing with a wider variety of men in a much more intimate capacity than whatever experience I've amassed walking in male shoes and having guy friends. Simply put, she knows way more about the ways men as a whole behave in the context of dating/sex/women than I ever will. And the same applies for me and women.

It's why by our late 20s we stopped asking each other for advice on relationships and have leaned much more towards just sharing. We both know our side of the game in a way that is impossible for the other to understand at this point.
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>>18513682
I guess if women actually explained what the fuck they wanted men wouldn't have been paying money to learn how to attract women for millennia

Anyway I'll bite, what do you want in a relationship?
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>>18512502
No, it's more subtle.
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>>18513676
I'm going to come to the tacit defense of women here and say that as a man I hear exactly what you're saying and largely agree with you, but I think there's a very good reason for the seeming disparity between what women (really, people in general to be honest) often say they want and what they actually want:

They fail to appreciate how intrinsically linked what they want in a relationship is with what they want out of life.

It's easy to very reasonably explain what you want from a relationship when you treat it like it's its own separate thing occurring in a vacuum. You want someone you get along with, treats you well, is reasonably physically attractive to you, etc. All very grounded and reasonable expectations, but in the very limited context of that is thinking strictly about "what kind of person to I want to be around and spend a lot of time with."

However, as soon as you start actually thinking in terms of that time on a lifelong scale, that question becomes more like "What kind of person do I want to have/build a life with?", and that is a VERY different criteria (e.g. finances, what would our kids look like, how do they get along with my family) than the more meager "could I be in a relationship with this person" checklist.

In my experience, it's why the guy that was totally acceptable at one point can suddenly start coming up short in a woman's eye: the thinking has shifted somewhere behind the scenes and it looks like she never knew what she wanted.
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>>18513700
They do. Thousands of surveys, research etc was done for many different cultures and they aggregated on these in order

1. Warmth and compassion
2. Virility and physical attractiveness
3. Resources
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>I'm everything women want but they don't want me so women don't know what they want
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>>18513743
Attractiveness and resources are obvious ones so I'll ignore them.

Warmth and compassion. Sounds nice, until you realize men who show this to females are usually called friends. Explain to me how come I never had any success with females until I started being colder and aloof, then?
In my experience what you girls love is the chase of getting a cold guy to open up and be warm around you, not him actually being warm and open.
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>>18513825
Warmth and compassion from people they are attracted to. The sooner men realize this, the better.
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>>18512520
False. Women hate nice guys up until their 30's or 40's. Before that point they just want excitement and settling down is not in the memo
t. my girlfriend of 2 years broke up with me saying I was too nice to her and she didn't deserve it
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>>18513829
Still doesn't change much. If you're the one actually trying to seduce her you're better off with the cold spiel, you even said it yourself earlier on(assuming you're the girl from before).

I mean yes, if the girl already likes you it doesn't matter, but if you're the one actually initiating contact (like it i 95% of the time) it won't get you anywhere. And I speak from experience here.
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>>18513829

The better it is for warn out older women who have already thrown their sexual prowess to the village.

Young girls don't want a nice guy. They want an asshole.

As a man, I see the big picture, honey.
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>>18513694
>We both know our side of the game in a way that is impossible for the other to understand

I actually kind of agree with this.

It's like when my dad told my younger sister to be a little patient with her ex when she found out he had cheated on her because "He's a young man and at the point where's gonna make stupid mistakes. Even I did at his age." M

My mom later pulled her aside to tell her the only reason my dad was so ready to commit and settle down was because the girl he'd cheated on had dropped him like a bad habit and forced him to actually learn.
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>>18513850
Sounds like you dad didn't actually learn shit
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>>18513836
It pains me to say this (because my parents and a psychiatrist thaught me different) but this guy really is right about women
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>>18512502
>>>18512520
>I know what you're saying, but even people who are a mess get into relationships.
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>OP, there are millions of guys out there who have none of what you say men need to have and do none of what you say men need to do, and they still get women. So basically, you're wrong.

that doesnt mean they should or that it will be a healthy relationship or last
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>>18513836
I was told that I reminded her of her dad and dumped me out of the blue after 2 years and many long and expensive flights, as well as keeping her in the country, paying for her apartment and all the furniture. There was no warning, I was loaded, attractive, and "too nice." I had it all and because I wasn't a dick she dumped me. I think it legitimately made me gay. I dont really like men, its just Im so lonely but I dont trust women anymore.

This man is so right it hurts and I wish I believed this before I went into a relationship.

also inb4 cuck, yea, I might as well have been
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I look average, can talk with girls just fine, have a job, have a car with license and Im just 18. Im still a turbovirgin and I could probably have a gf if I wanted but seeing how everyone with gf is just miserable, why would I want one? Its obvious Im only going to keep climbing the social ladder and I dont need a gf to live a good life. Is there any practical reason for getting a girlfriend? Only thing I can think of is that I could split the rent with her if we lived together which sounds better than living with strangers
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>>18512502
>Never tell her how pretty/gorgeous she is.
That's stupid, women, hell, most people, like compliments on their appearance.
>Always be confident and cool (even if you have to fake it).
Being vulnerable is also okay. Women don't want an emotionless robot anymore than a wet blanket.
>Never tell her how she makes you feel.
That's even more idiotic. How are you going to move forward in anything?
>Don't let her know a lot about you, always be mysterious to keep things interesting.
No, that's wrong. It'll either make you look boring or like a wanker.
>Make sure your life's in order before you ever choose to pursue women (who are 18 and older) for example:
>Have your own place, apartment or even a shared dorm room.
>Have your own (motor)bike or a car.
>Have a decent job, show them you have potential or at least be a college student.
If this was true, then doll bludgers (those on welfare) wouldn't be able to date. Besides, teenagers date too.
>If there's something here that isn't true (doesn't add up) then please let me know why.
You're just a fucking aspie who needs a checklist to get women. People from all backgrounds, races, classes, sexual orientations and education levels and attractiveness levels get boyfriends and girlfriends, partners and spouses.
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>>18512502
Being real and normal goes a long way. You don't have to be the best looking guy or the richest you just have to not be a weirdo. Some of my best mates (and myself) are autistic af at times but they still have gfs.
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