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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Brandon, that guy who keeps asking about cuddling in platonic friendships and fart guy
Fuck off
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>>17980694
how to get fwb
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>>17980713
Have a friend you're willing to lose at the end of it.
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for the ladies:

before initiating contact on a dating site, i read a girl's profile to get an idea on what she's like and who she is. i send a message based on her bio and NOT her looks, since i was lead to believe that women are more attracted to the mind than the body. the only problem is that i either never get a response, or they're incredibly disinterested in me that they'll message me one or two times and then fall off the face of the planet.

without posting a picture due to mobileposting, would it seem i'm trying too hard, not interesting enough, or just plain ugly?
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>>17980694
reposting
Do women like bubble butts on guys? I know everyone has their own tastes, but I've never seen a woman say they dislike a nice pair of shaped muscular buttocks on a man.
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>>17980724
Lel, no. A toned one yeah but none of that latino bubble crap.
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>>17980728
are you gay lol
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>>17980724
Yes oh my god.
It's the best
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>>17980722
We don't know.

In general, go for a short message or a joke about something they said in their profile. Don't write a long ass, three pages message on what you have in common.
Pay attention to your grammar. Capitalise the first letter, use punctuation - makes you sound more intelligent.

Improve your appearance too, or at least the pics you have on your profile.
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>>17980742
Female
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>>17980748
i do all of those things; i just don't on 4chan due to laziness. as far as improving my appearance, i was rated a 4/10 on /soc/, so i don't have a lot to work with unless i spend the next year trying and failing to slim down. i'm not exactly going for women out of my league, nor are my standards high.

i really don't understand what i'm doing wrong, and it sucks when i don't have anybody to be brutally honest with me so i can try to fix it.
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>>17980754
but you like to eat pussy?
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>>17980764
No
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>>17980768
It's healthy to experiment, you sound like a friend of mine. Kept denying she's gay but jerked off to herself in the mirror.
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Girl here thinking about growing my hair out. I don't have a lot of volume so I think a short cut does me favors and I do like how practical it is but I'm getting kinda bored of it. The transition phase to shoulder length would be awful though and I'm wondering if it's worth it. How much do guys in general prefer longer hair? The short hair gets me lots of compliments... but from girls.
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>>17980742
>>17980776
>didnt get the echo chamber answer he hoped for
>calls others repressed lesbians

mad much bro?
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>>17980780
I always prefer long hair on girls. I'm medium long myself. Also I think a girl needs to be like model tier to pull of short hair (I loved a girl who has hair like pic but she has 10/10 face so...)

>The short hair gets me lots of compliments... but from girls.
kek suppose you think you look better than someone, you would like to compliment that person, to elevate yourself and to appear modest.
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>>17980786
whoa slow down, liking pussy is not a bad thing.
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>>17980810
So why don't you like it then?
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>>17980724
I don't want to date the male version of Iggy Azalea.
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>>17980814
I do.
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>>17980819
It's healthy to experiment, you sound like a friend of mine. Kept denying he's gay but jerked off to himself in the mirror.
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>>17980817
kek
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>>17980822
You know repeating that doesn't make sense. Since we both like pussies.
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>>17980826
I'm pretty sure neither of us do.
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>>17980829
Then we're at an impasse.
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What do straight guys think of girls working in HVAC? I feel like a lot of guys look down on blue collar jobs. My best friend low key looks down on my job because him and his partner work in an office environment.
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>>17980834
HVAC?
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>>17980834
I don't look down on them, but I couldn't help but feel weird when talking to them (since I do research in Uni) so it's kinda less masculine job than the girl's job. Usually I just don't find myself in a situation where I have anything to say to them. But it might be interesting. Also depends on how horny I am.
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I want to ask out a friend's sister, but I don't have her contact information. I feel like asking my friend for her number or adding her on facebook wouldn't go over well. What should I do?
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Guys

Do you see old-fashioned girls as boring?
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>>17980800
Take the hair away and it's shocking how many women have a guy's face. Keep your hair long if you're looking to be cognitively recognized/acknowledged as a female.
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>>17980870
I prefer them
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>>17980845
Is that all? It is trendy for guys to be less masculine these days so I don't get how that could make you feel awkward.
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>>17980870
define "old-fashioned"
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>>17980858
do you really want to do that
My friend's sister is hot too and she even pressed her boobs against my arm and tried to kiss me a few times but I wouldn't want to do anything sexual with her because I'm her brother's best friend, so it feels weird and awkward.
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girls/guys

will speaking to other girls/guys help me get over him/her?
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>>17980878
Traditional, believes in gender roles, wants to be a housewife, expects you to be the provider, leader, protector
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>>17980881
sounds good to me
Even better if she can be a provider, leader, protector herself.
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>>17980870
>>17980881
Sounds good to me.
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>>17980881
not a guy, but i know plenty of guys that would take interest in a girl like that
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>>17980881
>wants to be a housewife
I always seen women who want to be housewives as very lazy. I can understand the choice if you have very young kids, but if you don't have any kids yet or if your kids are teenagers, what the hell are you going to do with your life? You can take care of the house and cook in 3/4 hours a day tops. You'll spend the rest of your day just sitting on your butt doing nothing.
It made sense when it actually took time to do chores, but now...
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>>17980879
The real appeal of her, besides her showing overt interest in me when we met, is she seems like she would actually have things in common with me. She really isn't that hot
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>>17980894
What if I have no skills? In the future most easy jobs are going to get automated
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>>17980894
i agree with you but i have to say you definitely have never before run a real household. that is never ever done in 3/4 h. especially if you count in running errands, paying bills, getting groceries, doing stuff like deepclean the fridge or wash all the blinds regularily. sure, if you run a bachelor household, that'll be easy. but if you have, for example, teenager kids, a garden, pets and a house instead of an apt, that CAN be a fulltime job, depending on how seriously you are about it.
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>>17980894
Being a housewife doesn't mean just being confined to the house. Since moving out, my mother is still a housewife and does all the gardening, exercises every day, does other maintenance and all the shopping. She maybe gets an hour to sit down.
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>>17980894
I have friends in their 50. And she became a housewife. After she hit 30 and thier kids went to school she was so bored that she started to work on her own. Later she got into making handmade decorations from broken glass and she got so succesfull that she started her own business and now outearns her husband.
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>>17980894
you dont know shit about being a housewife.
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>>17980876
For me, yes that is all.

>It is trendy for guys to be less masculine these days

lol I am classical then, even in my work, personally I want a submissive princess.
But it's kinda hard to find a submissive princess these days. So there's the strong woman, I like that less, but I wouldn't look down on them. A strong woman who does manual technical job is admirable even. Also like I said you can find a horny guy, all bets are off.
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>>17980897
Oh it's fine, I'm not judging the choice. It's your life, you're free to do whatever you wish with it.
I just wouldn't be able to do it, or to be with a person who wants to do it because inactive people annoy me.

>>17980899
I mean, I don't have kids but I do everything else, while having a fulltime job. My house is perfectly clean, my bills are always paid on time (is it so time demanding? I pay them on my phone while I'm pooping), I cook three meals a day.
My mom always did the same stuff while working full time and having me.
If you have young kids, it is a perfectly reasonable choice.
I am just saying I'd personally get bored, because it doesn't take all that much to do chores.
If you have young kids, it's reasonable. If not... meh.

>>17980900
Perfectly respectable, I don't have the same experience.

>>17980901
You see, I think that's super cool. But I'd get bored as fuck if all I had to do was taking care of the house.

>>17980903
You're right. Every woman in my family had a job, other than taking care of the house and the kids.
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>>17980899
I second this,

My wife told me to cut back to 4 shifts a week so that errands could get done with time left over to do stuff together, and we don't even have dependants.

With two people working full time it's just not worth it to clean the place beyond the necessities like dishes, vacuum, laundry and bathrooms. And to be honest, I can't take care of everything and leave much time for her during HER downtime. Shit piles up until my days off and then I'm humped.
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>>17980916
Why not just work in a cafe part time? That's what my gf plans on doing when she's a housewife.
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>>17980919
Because I actually like my job, and I find a lot of happiness in working there.
I might considering going part time for a while when I have kids, but I have really no need of doing that till then.
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>>17980907

I wanted to know what men thought of women doing mechanical trades. A horny guy is a bad idea for me since I'm asexual.
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>>17980929
>asexual
Unless you date another asexual, expect not to date much.
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>>17980929
>I'm asexual

naah. You say you are an asexual because you never met a guy that makes you open up.

I think you are attractive and all the guys you met just look at you and they instantly become pleasers and beta orbiters.

Once you will met a guy that is centered and you will have to make an effort to win his interest you will want to fuck like rabbits.
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>>17980929
>what men thought of women doing mechanical trades
Ok, then. I'm a theoretical guy (like I said, classical analysis stuffs) and I find them admirable. Engineers are still gay though.
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>>17980946
>all the guys you met just look at you and they instantly become pleasers and beta orbiters

The OP indicated the exact opposite of this.
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>>17980946
I must be old fashioned. I have always stonewalled women pining for me. I had one woman ask a mutual friend to declare her interest in me after we all had sushi together. I had the flu that night; my cold sores scabbed up and bled while I was eating. I had to decline her based solely on her standards being so low. I was a fucking mess, and the best I could do was confidently use a napkin to manage my bleeding face while pretending like everything was Gucci.

Guys: are any of you into that sort of thing? I feel like only guys with self esteem issues humour women taking the initiative.
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>>17980977
>I feel like only guys with self esteem issues humour women taking the initiative
lol you're killing me
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>>17980977

no. It is natural order of things. Women want to chase and men shouldn't. Problem is we all have been spoonfed this bullshit that the men are the chasers. It really isnt the case buddy.

To a man chasing women feels wrong, to a woman being chased by man feels wrong. Like something is out of place. This is because it is at odds with natural order of things.

See women are like cats. They are curious furballs. But what does a cat do when you try to chase it? It runs away. If a cat decides you are the one to pet it - it will come to you regardless if you like the cat or not.

The only thing you have to do is accept the cat, but if you will rub it the wrong way the cat will run away and will never come back.
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>>17980713
Virtually always starts like this;
>you hook up, either with a stranger or a friend you had some sexual tension with
>awkwardness the next day
>either through talking or texting you establish that you both had fun but are not looking for anything serious
>next time you're horny, send a booty call with some sexy text ("can't stop thinking about how we did blahblahblah...")

Having said that, having a steady FWB you have good sex with, who is clean and only has protected sex with other partners (or no other partners), who has no jealousy towards you and isn't expecting more from you than you want to give... that is actually more difficult than finding a real girlfriend. It's a difficult balance to strike. They need to like you a whole lot, but not THAT much.

This is why most of these arrangements pop up naturally and fizzle out within a few months.
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>>17980722
You have to keep in mind that most women get lots of messages... I don't know how picky you are about choosing which woman to write to, but you better give it a lot of tries. All the more if you're average looking and not great with making a catchy profile.

Your approach is right. She's being flooded with "omg you're so beautiful" etc. Even just correct spelling, punctuation etc is a plus. And anything showing you actually read her profile and didn't just look at the picture. So I'm inclined to say it's a numbers' game..
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>>17980880
Not really, and a rebound relationship is never a good idea. But you should do it simply because it makes the very real future of loving someone entirely different and new seem much more real. You don't have to fall in love with someone else, but even just for example appreciating a trait in someone you never realized you liked helps you work towards the point where you can get excited over the idea of dating someone other than your ex.
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>>17980946
What's with people not bring able to see asexuality as a legitimate sexual orientation? Do you also think homosexuals are people who haven't met the right person if the opposite sex too?
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I've known this girl since kindergarten, We're 23 now. We used to play a lot as kids. Her brother and I were best friends growing up so by default I saw her a lot. After I started middle school we stopped hanging out almost all together. Just recently me and her have started talking a little bit and have hung out a couple times. She invited me over for wine and wanted to catch up. I was at her place with just her and her kid for almost 8 hrs. The next weekend her ex had the kid so I took her to a small house party at my buddy's house. After getting more drunk than I planned she invited back to her place to "chill and watch movies" as she put it. I passed out before she hit play. It didn't hit until later the next day after I had went home that maybe the movie wasn't all that was on her mind. Both times we have hung out it has been very casual but that might be my fault since I have very little experience with these things.

I have 2 questions
A) is it likely I offended her by passing out?
B) am I friend/brozoned?
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how soon is too soon to ask a girl to catch up you met clubbing
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>>17980998
Not them but I also have some issue with asexuality being proposed as a sexual orientation. I don't doubt that there's rare cases of people who naturally have no sexual inclinations, but it's a very mixed group.

There's also people who are sexually traumatized and have become "asexual" that way. And even within asexuality, there's many different gradients. There's people who think the very idea of masturbation is icky, there's people who masturbate to porn and call themselves asexual. There's people who have (had) sex and call themselves asexual. That makes it very confusing on top of being a completely unnatural idea. Sex is something that virtually everyone likes, so if there's an exception people are going to respond like they do to rare people who dislike music or don't care for any particular kind of food.

Furthermore, I personally sometimes feel like people who just have a very low sex drive call themselves asexual either because it's easier to get people to take their (lack of) needs seriously, or because it sucks to not be very sexually inclined in a hypersexual society and adapting a special kind of label is more interesting than just going "oh well, I have particularly little enthusiasm for this".
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>>17980870
I'd like an old fashioned gf.
I'll take a modern one too.

If I had to choose between the extremes I'd probably go for the old fashioned minus the wanting kids part.
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>>17980994
That was really well put, thanks
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So last year, I was browsing my friend's porn folder when he let me borrow his laptop (I know I shouldn't) and I found a folder with a HD vid of a really cute young blonde girl masturbating, sitting on dildo and orgasm, with a lot of fluid and stuffs, very lewd. I copied the vid and used it to fap for most of last year, it really helped me though some tough time. Then I began dating a girl who looks similar to her (think I might have a fetish). As of last week, we've dated for 5 months and for the first time I had dinner with her family, there I met her 19 yo sister and my heart almost fucking stopped, she's the chick I've been fapping to.
My body has been conditioned to react to her so it was really awkward throughout dinner, and I couldn't hold my boner when we hugged and definitely poked her. She seemed surprised, too, but was still all smiley. And I totally spilled my spaghetti around her idk if my gf noticed.
Then I asked my friend and he bragged about meeting the hot sister on some forum and they exchanged lewd (vids and pics). So me and my friend chatted for awhile on fb about how we would like to fuck her, described various explicit position. I fapped one last time to the vid after that conversation and thought that was the end of it. Today my friend texted me telling me his gf read the messages (the dumbass didn't log out of his fb) and sent them to my gf (regrettably when I asked my friend about the origin of the vid we made it clear that it's my gf's sister).

I don't know what will happen next, gf still hasn't replied to anything I texted her. What should I expect? Is this serious?
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>>17980987
Interesting perspective, I like the cat analogy. The last sentence about having to accept the cat doesn't make much sense to me - I think the analogy got away from you.
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>>17980694
I feel kinda bored when approaching a woman. I mean, I already know what kind of problems they are in, what they desire, and I also met enough of them to learn about their fragile states of self.

The numbers around them are pretty one sided too. From high anti depressant use, to lower rates of socialization (compared to previous generations), to higher rates of depression (goes hand in hand with social networks)

As you would study animals one can also study women. So I wonder. Why am I still supposed to play this boring game of "lol we are both strangers lets get to know eachother"

am I at least expected to do that? Its always so boring to have to demonstrate that you are a human bean for longer periods of time with some of them.

Its like trying to reason with a slow machine learning algorithm.
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So last night I was texting my gf of 9 months. I was thinking about the future paraphrase what I said "I could become a maintenance tech at the casino, or maybe Ill become a suprevisor. Or maybe Ill just go back to school. I just wanna be able to make enough money for you not to have to work fulltime if you dont want to, and to be able to afford a house with that yknow?"

She replied with "Youre a crazy boy! You care about me so much its scary." I replied "Oh well fuck, sorry my bad then I guess,". To which she said "No, don't aplogize. Scary isn't always a bad thing"

Idk if she just tried to make me feel better, but I just felt like shit, putting myself out there, thinking about the future, which is rare for me. And she pulled away. Or am I over reacting?
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Me and my gf havent fucked in two months. Im gonna fucking kill myself if I dont get some pussy or a bj from any girl soon. Im going insane here.
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>>17981044
and why didn't you have sex so long?
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>>17981051
Girlfriend has zero sex drive between new anti depressants and stress of school, she hardly even masturbates and says the thought of sex is gross to her. Im doing my best to be supportive, but holy fuck.
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>>17981033
>is this serious

you two are both so unbelievably royaly fucked
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>>17981038

Not wont like every cat that comes to you.
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>>17981052
How can you be together with someone who thinks sex is gross?
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Some girl who I've told when I hang with girls I never really consider it dating just hanging out, we've had a couple sexting things, but she recently said 'You're going to have to ask me out first" is she replying dating, or relationship or what exactly? I can't be bothered with a relationship desu too much in life happening.
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>>17981052
What the fuck are you doing, anon? Okay I'm going to make this so much easier for you:

You HAVE to leave because there is no chance the sex life is going to get better over the long term.

Are you willing to put up with this shit forever? How about if it gets worse? I guarenteee as you both get older there will be more obstacles impeding your sex life.

What you want to do is take a bullet for the team, hoping that the team (relationship) will be okay in the long run. But, what you are actually doing is taking a nuclear bomb for the team, which is redundant. Your support is not enough to fix this problem.

Your gf needs to understand that if she is not fucking you, then someone else will. Let her decide who, so it's not a surprise later. Or, get out. Just to be clear though: if you are going to let her know that you need sex one way or another, then don't be rude about it. The truth bomb is going to be a rude enough awakening. You've got needs. A rational partner will either accept them, or she'll tell you she cannot accept your needs. Think about that.
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>>17981063
They didn't "get" away, Anon. I sent them away; they were rejected. I'm still glad I did. I'm in a great relationship. Who knows what would have happened if I knocked up one of those betas.

Now I know that you're a guy, because you forgot or simply didn't respect that women can get rejected just as hard and as often as men.
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Girls
If a guy has done something very rude and made you cut him off, is there anything he can do to get you back?
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>>17981110
Depends on what he's done obviously.
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>>17981033
As a girl with sister, I'd dump you so hard. Imagine your gf telling her friend she wants your brother's dick inside her.
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>>17980694
what's the point of feminism anymore?
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>>17981133
I told you in the last thread my dude
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>>17980870
>>17980881
YES
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>>17981139
I thought no one would answer so I left.
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>>17981140
>>17980870
I mean yes as in not boring
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>>17980834
>What do straight guys think of girls working in HVAC?
To be honest? Nothing really, one way or the other. Never seen a woman in a trade. My big issue is that we would probably have very different endgames regarding marriage, kids, etc so I probably wouldn't pursue her for those reasons.

>I feel like a lot of guys look down on blue collar jobs.
People do that in general if we're honest, women do it all the time. I'm an Engineering major but I come from a blue collar family, and I've gotten into quite a few fights with my peers over shit relating to that. Some of the extended family that lives further away too, actually.

>>17980916
Everything becomes more complicated the larger your household is. Yes, it's easy to keep the house clean with two adults that pick up their own shit. Throw in a shithead kid or two and its another story. Same with taxes, cooking, etc. Things definitely slow down once the kids are in middle school and on, but you're grossly underestimating the time requirements.


>>17981033
Yeah you're fucked.
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>>17981142
>>17981139
so whats the answer?
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>>17981152
>Everything becomes more complicated the larger your household is. Yes, it's easy to keep the house clean with two adults that pick up their own shit. Throw in a shithead kid or two and its another story. Same with taxes, cooking, etc. Things definitely slow down once the kids are in middle school and on, but you're grossly underestimating the time requirements.
In my first post I said "unless you have young kids". Of course if you have four kids under 10 it makes perfect sense to be a housewife, if it's just you and your husband or you have teenager kids... meh?

I mean, when I was 12 I started cooking for all my family, I ironed and washed my clothes, etc.
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>Consider the following:
Why do guys work?
To buy things to girls and pay prostitutes.

Why do girls work?
To buy things to themselves.

Does this seems fair to you?
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>>17980987
Wat. No. You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find a human group where the females are the pursuers and the men are the pursued/choosers. You'll just get Margret Mead bullshit that has been largely debunked. This dynamic is universal, indicating that it has a bilogical basis rather than cultural alone.
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>>17981168
>Does this seem fair to you?
Well, no, but luckely what you propose there is not reality as I know it.
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>>17981164
Teenagers are still shit heels. Less of one, but still leagues from a responsible person. Even if you were a perfect child I'm entirely confident your parents spent a good amount of time and effort to make sure you didn't kill yourself or dealing with your aftermath.

But yes, things do get easier at that point. Hence why so many housewives that I know become intimately involved with local charity groups etc.

>>17981168
>To buy things to girls and pay prostitutes.
I mean maybe you do, but right now pretty much all of my fun fund goes straight to me. Basically I buy shit I want, and if there's a gal I'm interested in I invite her along. Not going to force myself into a concert I don't give a shit about.
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>>17981170
How about we all agree that everyone does some chasing and to what degree is more down to the person than gender.
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>>17981052
That's not an excuse to ignore your partner's needs. That doesn't stop her from manually getting you off with a bj or handy.
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>>17980694
Girls -

What's your honest opinion of /r9k/ and robots?
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>>17981156
Power, money, attention, virtue/victim points, etc.
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>>17981175
Trends are easily observed. Sure there's a handful of women take the initiative, but the vast majority won't. In large part because they don't need to, as I've often seen them admit.
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Guys,

What makes a woman beautiful to you? Is it different than her being hot or cute?
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>>17981179
>power
like what whos keeping you from becoming a ceo?
>money
there have been sources that debunk the difference in cents on the dollar especially since the number keeps chaning
>virtue/victim points,
yeah
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>>17981175
Not really, on average males do the majority of pursuing. Of course there's exceptions to the rule and every individual is different, but I won't ignore the facts.

>>17981185
No nigga I mean people who are literally professional feminists like pic related
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>>17981184
>Is it different than her being hot or cute?

its her attitude mostly. If she likes to laugh, doesn't think too highly of herself, has some hobbies and an idea for herself.

Being hot or cute is a bonus. But great personality tends to improve looks and bad personality demolishes it.

6/10 in terms of looks is fine.
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>>17981184
Hot=Sexual
Cute=Innocent
Beautiful=Feminine, more of a developed woman.

At least, that's how I generally interpret it. You can definitely be a mix of all three. Others probably have some very different definitions than me.
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>>17981193
>No nigga I mean people who are literally professional feminists like pic related
oh. need to be clear on that. honestly feel like theres no point to feminism IN AMERICA anymore. and abortion is just a human right to thier body. need to be clear on that.
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>>17981178
Like the actual Elliot Rodger types? I think they have a lot of problems.
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>>17980858
Please respond
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>>17981174
>Even if you were a perfect child I'm entirely confident your parents spent a good amount of time and effort to make sure you didn't kill yourself or dealing with your aftermath.
Oh sure, my parents had to waste a lot of time, money and energies on me even if I was a responsible kid.

My first post wasn't meant as an insult, I was just saying that I literally cannot think what I'd do with my free time if I was a housewife. It would be different if I had young kids, but even working full time (even if I don't work crazy hours like my boyfriend), I manage to spend time with my boyfriend, take care of the house, do all the errands, cook 3 meals a day from scratch, pay all our bills, do all the shopping, exercise, see my friends, have hobbies.

My mom works 60 hours a week and she still does everything I do, but she's a sort of superhuman who barely sleeps so she doesn't count.
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>>17981205
Just in general, anyone struggling in life, love and other things enough to be considered a robot.
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Dont really care on the gender, I just need answers.

How to love someone with anxiety? Yes, I'll admit it now. My gf is insecure, I know that but god be damned I'm not going to drop her because of that. We love each other to bits but the only times I conflict with her is when she has these episodes where she suddenly says she's not good enough for me or I could do better.

How do I get her to love herself? I've been trying to compliment her often and praise her a lot when she does good things. Is there anything more I can do?
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>>17981209
>if I was a housewife
"if I were", anon.
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How to resist the urge to brick my ugly ching chong wife in the face? She's hideous and annoying.
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>>17981214
Whoops. Thanks.
English isn't my first language, I'm sorry.
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>>17981215
divorce her.
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>>17981219
Lol but then she'd kill herself and then everybody would judge me for driving an insecure ugly bitch mad to the point of suicide.
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>>17981172
Open your eyes! The world revolves around vagina.

>>17981174
What about when you have gf or want to fuck?
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>>17981184
her personality and intellect of course
Yes, there is.
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>>17981213
Validate her. You're going to have to show her you love her through her insecurities. You're going to have to get gushy depending on your level of comfort. But, be careful with chicks with insecurities my man. They'll leave you heartbroken with a shallow excuse.
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ladies~

why do you feel the need to kissing a guy after you just finish sucking dick?
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>>17981209
>My first post wasn't meant as an insult
What you lead it with basically reads like the start of what every other woman has to say about housewives. They're lazy. They're boring. They have no upper aspirations. All gets very tiring, and all of the weird mental gymnastics they get into. Because on one hand they'll say they just want the ability to make a choice as feminists, but on the other hand want to be able to cling to something, to belittle other women.

I really do hate city people.

>even working full time (even if I don't work crazy hours like my boyfriend), I manage to spend time with my boyfriend, take care of the house, do all the errands, cook 3 meals a day from scratch, pay all our bills, do all the shopping, exercise, see my friends, have hobbies.
I mean, all of that is pretty straightforward as long as you maintain a schedule.People generally fuck themselves in the ass because they never think ahead, a little pre planning can go a long way. No need to worry about spending an extra half hour trying to find a bathroom with a changing station because your kid decided to shit himself.

>>17981224
Don't do casual sex. Not going to be that kind of guy who takes women to bars and buys overpriced drinks. If I have a gf, I'm going to basically do what I expressed earlier. Invite her to shit we'd both enjoy at a bare minimum. The idea of taking her out to something you hate to keep the peace is stupid.
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>>17981184
Beautiful: skinny/slim/fit, long hair, feminine, nice tits (B~D), pretty feet.
Hot: slutty, big tits, big ass, bimbo.
Cute: innocent/pure looking.

>>17981223
If she kills herself, that's HER problem.

>>17981230
>implying you don't give gifts, pay for her food, tickets, etc
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>>17981228
Um, because they're both signs of affection? Why is your dick so filthy that you're fine with me putting it in my mouth but I can't kiss you afterwards?
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>>17981237
Lol this. And I fucking love kissing after he's just gone down on me
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>>17981237
It's not filthy, but I prefer to not taste my dick you see. Works better if we shower or at least wash our parts first, then cuddle. Otherwise, you know, germs.
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>>17981237
because guys don't suck thier own dick...normally. even if she swallowed, pretty sure you're trying to be slick and try to transfer it back to us.
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>>17981235
Yes, I give gifts for birthday, christmas, etc. That's reciprocal. I also follow an alternating rule with dates, unless I'm trying to get her to go to something she can't afford. My fun income does not particularly shift if I'm dating someone.

Don't get salty over the fact you have no spine and try to buy affection.

>>17981237
To be honest the whole "my own dick" thing is pretty weird for most. I mean there's a reason why guys are hesitant to kiss after a blowjob, but are willing to go down on the woman. It's not because we think it's that much more hygienic than our own fun bits.
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>>17981248
>trying to be slick and try to transfer it back
shit now that I think about it, I might have swallowed my own cum. bitch wasn't even my gf
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>>17981252
>than our own fun bits.
this is my rifle, this is my gun. this is for fighting, this is for fun.
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>>17981228
Because the abject horror guys seem to feel for their own genitals coupled with the near-constant urge to still touch it is hilarious to me personally.
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>>17981261
>Because the abject horror guys seem to feel for their own genitals coupled with the near-constant urge to still touch it is hilarious to me personally.

I can't argue against this.
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>>17981230
I don't hate housewives. I don't think they're necessarily boring. I am perfectly fine with women deciding to stay home.
I am not super focused on my career, I find joy in my job but my main joy is my family - I'd reduce my workload or even quit working if it was needed, if I had young kids or my boyfriend had a really demanding career.

I can't think of what I'd do at this point of my life if I didn't have to work. I am awake for 18 hours a day and, if I didn't work, I'd probably spend 10 hours a day sitting on my ass. It seems very lazy to me. That's totally it.

I am not a "city person", I live in the middle of nowhere, grew up in a farm, I grow my own vegetables with my grandma.

And, again, I said that it makes no sense for me *unless you have small kids*. Being a housewife in this moment of my life would be a waste of time.
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>>17981237
>tfw am a guy who loves to kiss after a blowjob
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>>17981265
>I don't hate housewives
Im not saying you necessarily do. Just that your initial statement echoed those who do.

>I can't think of what I'd do at this point of my life if I didn't have to work.
That's kind of sad I think. I'm interested in my future career but if I had some magic source paying all of my bills there are lots of things I would like to do with that sudden excess of free time. Lots of cars to repair, house projects to finish, black people to yell at on the internet.
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>>17981268
I always think of it as like a "Hey, thanks for doing a good job sucking my dick"
BUT
I guess some dudes think it's icky. For the record, *I* don't like tasting your dick either. Cum tastes like the inside of an old barrel.
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>>17981276
>don't like tasting your dick
better get used to it
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>>17981276
As a girl, you HAVE TO like tasting dick. Otherwise I will look for prostitutes.
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>>17981273
It's not the same for me. I wouldn't know what to do with, what, 10-15 hours of free time every day.
It is a LOT of time to occupy, and even if I have a lot of hobbies and I'm not really the kind of person who gets bored easily, I would kill myself if I didn't have anything to do all the fucking day. If I couldn't work, I'd probably volunteer, or take care of my old relatives, or something like that.
I really like my job, and I think that working makes me appreciate my free time more, and forces me out of my comfort zone made of stupid autistic hobbies, shitposting and books.
If I didn't work it'd be enjoyable for a couple of weeks, then I'd just be empty and bore myself.
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>>17981276
>Hey, thanks for doing a good job sucking my dick
well I can show my appreciation by a pat in the head, a peck on the cheek. No need for saliva to be involved. Plus those are way more sexual than kissing.
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>>17981280
>>17981282
My point is I don't like the taste, but I'll still suck your dick because its the polite thing to do and *you* like it so much
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I bet there's some gay guy in this thread jewishly rubbing his hands together and snickering right now.
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>>17981288
So give me a kiss, I earned it.
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>>17981284
>If I couldn't work, I'd probably volunteer,
Well as I mentioned earlier I see tons of housewives take intimate roles in local charity groups round here for similar reasons.

> I think that working makes me appreciate my free time more, and forces me out of my comfort zone made of stupid autistic hobbies, shitposting and books.
I find its just useful not being at home all day. If I don't let myself binge on netflix I find something to be productive with.

>>17981288
>I'll still suck your dick because its the polite thing to do
I'm not sure polite is the right word here
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>>17981291
I can see that.
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>>17981288
>its the polite thing to do
This reminds me, I've known this chick since last semester and she would always give me handjob when asked, wonder if she's just being polite. There was nothing romantic about a handy in the bathroom. And it's not like she's that comfortable with my semen on her hair and stuffs
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>>17981294
>>17981297
Okay, the term 'polite' was partially a joke. I'm just saying that while some aspects of giving a guy a blowjob may be unpleasant I get over it because he finds it so enjoyable and I want him to feel good.
Also, yes, I'm one of those girls who likes being kissed after giving head. It makes me feel appreciated.
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>>17981224
The world does not evolve arpund vagina. Sexual urges do influence a lot in this world, but, no revolution was ever undertaken because the poor masses wanted that rich girl pussy, just to give one example.
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>>17981302
>It makes me feel appreciated
How about a substitute for mouth kissing to show appreciation. A pat on the head? a hug? a kiss on the hand?
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>>17981302
How is a blowjob unpleasant if the guy is clean and nice?
There are girls who love it because they see and feel the guy having so much pleasure.

>>17981303
lol
OK, I exaggerated a little. But vaginas influence a lot in this world.

>>17981306
As a guy, I don't agree with this.
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>>17981306
>a kiss on the hand?
especially when shes been shclicking herself while blowing you.
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>>17981306
I think she's saying she's showing her love and appreciation by doing something uncomfortable (giving a blowjob), so she wants the guy to do something uncomfortable to show appreciation and love in return (kissing afterwards). A pat or hug wouldn't be equivalent.
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>>17981302
Do you give a guy a kiss after he performs oral on you? Im seriously wondering.
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>>17981268
You are a rare gem.
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>>17981308
While we're at it, doesn't pretty much everyone do that?
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>>17981306
How about a milk bone and a nice scratch behind the ears
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>>17981303
>no revolution was ever undertaken because the poor masses wanted that rich girl pussy
I mean, I'm sitting here with a copy of the Iliad in front of me.

>>17981306
>A pat on the head?
It sounds cute in hentai. Not so much the real world.
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>>17981311
Yep, not even close to being a problem. Going down on me makes me want to kiss him, actually.
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>>17981309
I am of the belief that sex shouldn't be an exchange of uncomfortable acts, but I guess for some girls we have to make compromises.
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>>17981320
That's just regular old compromise though. I want kind of want pizza but he really wants Chinese food? General Tso's and wontons it is
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>>17981320
Like many things, it's a spectrum. There are things many women won't budge on, such as anal for instance. It hurts them, they don't like it, whatever. There is no middle ground with it.

But there are other things they're not necessarily huge fans of, like blowjob. Doesn't in and of itself do much for them, but no strong opposition. But the kicker is, their partner really likes it. So they do it, because while the act itself is whatever they love seeing their partner happy. Of course this should go both ways, its why a lot of guys go down on women, Purely because they want to see her feeling good. There is no hard and set rule for this, the trade offs will differ for each and every woman.
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>>17981316
Well, whe never knew the truth behind that war.
Maybe the Trojan war was never started over Helen but over the control Troy had over the Hellespont (or whatever you call it in english, its basically the bosphorus but a little further south, also know as the place Xerxes crossed into europe).
Or maybe Helen was drag queen, you never know whith those old greeks.

>>17981318
Wow. I did not know. Wonder if other girls feel that way as well. Might be you just made my sex life a little bit better. I usually just kiss the neck or something after oral.
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>>17981332
>Well, whe never knew the truth behind that war.
Pretty sure it was over some mad sick pussy
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>>17981332
>Wonder if other girls feel that way as well.
>>17981242
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>>17981332
Okay well I'm not absolutely every girl.. I'm starting to feel like my policy on bodily fluids is a bit more relaxed than most peoples
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>>17981339
>>17981340
ok I'm starting to believe that it's easier for girls to taste pussies than guys to taste dicks. Crazy theory.
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>>17981344

If that's true then what do you think the reason behind it is?
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>>17981344
Yeah, a lot of girls I've talked to (myself included) like or at least have tried tasting themselves. Guys almost always think it's gross/gay.
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To girls:
Do you have creampie fetishs the same way men does? Do you feel something different from a orgasm once someone cums inside you? Like, i don't know, hotter inside.
Not completely sure how to put it, but i think you get it.

By they way, do you remember, or care for old boyfriends, or something? In the way that they made you feel different somehow, so even after the break up and one new boyfriend you would still think about them? Some men do it, so im curious.
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>>17981344
Might be it has something to do with the fact that more girls seem to be bi than guys. Or at least a bit more flexible in that regard.
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>>17981227
>>17981227
>Validate her. You're going to have to show her you love her through her insecurities.
through her insecurities? not despite* her insecurities? how do you do that?

>You're going to have to get gushy depending on your level of comfort.
You mean just keep flirting with her? Be more clingy and cuddly?

>But, be careful with chicks with insecurities my man. They'll leave you heartbroken with a shallow excuse.
I hope it never comes down to that.
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>>17981353
I've never been cummed in yet but I can't wait. It sounds incredibly hot. I've never had an ex so I can't answer your question, but I can't imagine myself being with any other guy, let alone forgetting mine entirely.
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>mfw I turned this into a genital about cunnilingus and blowjobs
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>>17981388
>I've never been cummed in yet
what are you waiting for, it's an experience no teenage girl should miss, like prom
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>>17981398
>>17981388
so girls really do want to be creampied?
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>>17981398
Kek no
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>>17981405
A good number do I think
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>>17981405
Yeah I think it's the most intimate you can get. To be fair I've never felt it though.
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Dear ladies,
I have a 4 inch penis.
How fucked am I?
I'm 20 and I never had sex.
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>>17981419
>To be fair I've never felt it though
Maybe you did, but forgotten
Do you have a bf?
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>>17981436
Nope. I've had a boyfriend for like 6 months when I was 18 and that's it.
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Girls I have 7 inch penis. How fucked am I? 20 never had sex
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>>17981457
How old are you now? 32?
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Girls, why don't you like cumcakes and cummy ice cream?
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Girls

Could you date a guy who refuses to have vaginal sex with you?

My absolute worst fear is getting getting a girl pregnant. It terrifies me. So, I'm too scared to put my dick in the pussy. I know about protection obviously, but I also know it's not 100% effective. One of my friends knocked up his girlfriend, and she was very careful with her BC... so after hearing that. I'm literally too scared to do it
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>>17981489
>implying
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>>17981494
What kind of contraception was she using?

I'm also very scared of that, but we are waiting until marriage or an equivalent anyways. So just outercourse for now and it's all good.
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>>17981457
aww poor baby ;(
*hug
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>>17981353
>Do you have creampie fetishs the same way men does?
I absolutely love it when bf cream pies me.

>Do you feel something different from a orgasm once someone cums inside you?
Not entirely sure what you mean here. I usually cum before bf cums so I never experience an orgasm after bf has came. However, I absolutely love the sensation of bf cumming inside me. His dick pulsates and twitches, his cum is warm. Literally one of my favorite sex acts.


>By they way, do you remember, or care for old boyfriends, or something? In the way that they made you feel different somehow, so even after the break up and one new boyfriend you would still think about them? Some men do it, so im curious.
Dear god no. My exs have claimed this to me. I literally do not understand it. Like, they don't even know me anymore. They kind of never did know me. And the two exs that have said they still care for me on more than one occasion, were both cheaters. All I can think is, dude, you never cared for me.

I don't have like, hate with a passion, for my exs, but basically everything I have ever felt for one is dead. I never reminisce. I never think what if. And I really do not care what they do with their lives now.
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>>17981484
21. I've just been studying a lot and really didn't care much about romance I guess.
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>>17981494
>>17981510
Ever heard of condoms? Its a thing you know.
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>>17981510

I'm not sure Tbh. All I know is his girlfriend was really careful with that shit. They were the unlucky .01%

Literally being a father scares me more than anything. I had vaginal sex once, years ago. I came in the girl and everything. I was so fucking scared for the following 5 days I was literally throwing up.
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>>17981526

They can break, plus my dick is not sensitive enough for me to feel anything if I wear one
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>>17981524
my type of girl :)
What are you studying?
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>>17981494
My bf was terrified in the beginning. So I went on hormonal birth control, then we used condoms with spermicidal lube on top of that.

After his fears calmed down (took about a year or so), we stopped using condoms. So now we do my birth control and bf pulls out.

You hear some horror stories, but honestly. My bf and I have been having sex for 6 years now, Anywhere from 2-4 times a day, everyday, and I have never gotten pregnant on the birth control/pull out combo method.
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>>17981542
International finances.
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>>17981526
Of course but condoms are actually relatively really shitty birth control. Not good enough to me when it come to something as major as creating another human being. Their only strength is reducing STD risk, but that's irrelevant in a long term monogamous relationship between unifected partners. When I do become sexually active before Ill en having kids, in thinking either arm implant or copper IUD.
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>>17981552
anal?
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>>17981531
Hm they might be exaggerating and she might think have actually messed up somehow. People over estimate the effectiveness of most contraceptives.
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>>17981563
We do anal very occasionally.

But we literally have vaginal intercourse multiple times a week. I have never gotten pregnant.
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>>17981552
>My bf and I have been having sex for 6 years now, Anywhere from 2-4 times a day, everyday, and I have never gotten pregnant on the birth control/pull out combo method

I understand that. But it is still POSSIBLE you could get pregnant. It's unlikely, but it's still a possibility. Just having that chance scares the fuck out of me
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K so I have like no romantic experience with girls and I'm going on a date this week. Is there anything in particular I should do/avoid doing?

And yeah, I know this is a shit question but I'm not good at wording things.
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Have you girls a sexual mental so big like the boys? Im asking this because im afraid push limits in the sex theme when im talking with other girl
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>>17981567

>People over estimate the effectiveness of most contraceptives

You're saying that they are less effective than we think.. That's why I'm too scared for vagina sex
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>>17981572
I am pretty sure you need therapy.
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>>17981181
>Sure there's a handful of women take the initiative, but the vast majority won't.

the courtship is started by male. You just have to be aproachable and show some intrest then the girls do all the chasing.
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man hearing girls talk about being loving creampies and kissing after cunnilingus has me strangely aroused. need to to stop watching porn.
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>>17981572
Take into consideration that those anons have been together for half a decade and presumably love each other very much. Even if they did get pregnant, I'm assuming they could handle it together.

I'm not saying don't be cautious, that's great, but when you're with a partner for a long time who you love and trust, you might find you'll be prepared and ready to take that risk.
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>>17981576
>a sexual mental so big like the boys
Wut

>>17981582
Well I rarely ever watch porn and it's still kinda got me hot so that's probably not the reason
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>>17981558
That is way beyond my sphere. Unless it has something related to stochastic/time series analysis.
Shouldn't there be a lot of cute guys in your class. Sounds like a Chad major lol
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What option is better to send to this girl? Any way to improve it further?

"You know, I think we should celebrate your EMT Certification. I think we should do dinner on XXXX night. How about I pick you up at 7:30. What do you think?"
or
"Hey. I should have said this before, but I wanted to take you out for dinner to celebrate your EMT Certification."
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>>17981588
oh good. But I do need to stop watching porn regardless. might have troubles later down the road.
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>>17981589
There's attractive men in my classes but a) I'm still working and studying tons and b) most guys seem to just want to get laid and aren't really looking for a relationship and I'm not into that kind of thing.

>>17981598
I think porn can really screw up your perception of sex yeah. Not a huge fan myself in any case though so I probably can't judge it accordingly.
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>>17981604
(Not OP) How can I find girls who don't want Chad?
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Is money a big factor to have success with girs?
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>>17981593
Personally I'd say something more like "Hey, congrats on your EMT Certification, let's go out to celebrate. Dinner and drinks on me!" The first one you said sounds self-doubting, like you want her approval. The second one less so, but the "should have said it before" is still a bit of a problem, and you don't actually ASK her to go anywhere in it, it's too passive.

Once she replies, then suggest a time.
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>>17981353
I love it when my boyfriend does that. I can't really feel it, but the part I notice is when he sort of collapses or stops moving in pleasure on top of me... it's really nice.
We like to sex talk about how much he wants to knock me up... that's the hottest part. I'm on birth control and everything, and I don't want kids, and I know that neither does he, but it just makes me feel so close to him.
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>>17981626
>"Hey, congrats on your EMT Certification, let's go out to celebrate. Dinner and drinks on me!"

Seeing as I already spoke to her about her cert Friday and congratulated her then, I would need to change it slightly. Also, I am only 20, so not legally able to drink (She just turned 21 a month ago, so she can) So the drinks bit is a bit iffy. So How can a rework it a bit more?
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What does it mean when my boyfriend wants to talk to me online more than he actually wants to see me? His Internet words are really sweet, but he gets quickly tired in person.
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>>17981604
>most guys seem to just want to get laid and aren't really looking for a relationship
Consider going for STEM guys, the more theoretical, the less likely he's just looking to get laid, but he would have some ideals that he holds on to.

Afaik, a typical pure math student would just want a qt gf so that they can tick that box and don't have to spend time chasing girls and can focus on proving theorems... Plus you sound like a nice girl I doubt you will break their heart. Ok this sounds like I'm advertising for my fellows but if you are studying as hard as you said you would find a lot of things in common with those guys.
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>>17981619
I'm not the Oracle of Delphi anon. I'm guessing religious girls would be a good fit?

>>17981622
With vapid and/or poor girls probably?
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>>17981637
>my boyfriend wants to talk to me online more than he actually wants to see me

lol ask Stacie he's ballsdeep in while chatting with you online
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>>17981622
Not unless your just trying to impress them in general. If you're exclusively dating someone then they shouldn't care about that, and neither should you because you should care for each other enough that you're genuinely interested in one another
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>>17981645
Okay but what if he's not cheating me, because I know he isn't
What are other explanations
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>>17981639
I have an old friend from school who's doing pure maths and he is absurdly attractive. But unfortunately completely disinterested in girls or guys.
Apart from that I don't really mingle a lot with STEM students though because my university is pure economics.
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>>17981578

WHy
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>>17981585

But I literally never want kids. Never ever
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>>17981669
Ah I see. I don't agree with it personally, but you could find someone who feels the same and who you know you could trust to get an abortion if there is ever any pregnancy?
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So am I doing this whole "ignore her a bit so she she starts seeking you out" thing correctly?

Met a girl, thought she was into me, always flirting, text alot, asked her out, says she only sees me as a friend. She's cool, but i want something more so i slowly stop communicating and dont see her as much.

See her again almost a year later randomly, not awkward, still flirty and teasing as hell, starts complimenting me and say i look really good and im getting fit. She starts texting me now, tells me she forgot she always has fun hanging with me. Still flirty and stuff when we see each other, thinking shes into me now.

Friend tells me she likes the attention I give since she knew I liked her before. Says the reason she texts you before she goes to bed all the time is shes bored and gets validation from it, she's just seeking attention and knows she'll get it from me, he tells me dont give it to her next time.

We text wednesday about stuff, asks me to go on a run with her, decline cause im at the gym. Last time I heard from her until yesterday night. She's at a bar crawl, getting drunk, she texts me when shes drunk usually. This time isnt different. She sends a simple hi. I dont respond. 30 mins later she sends me an agitated text: ???? anger emoji.

I'm at a fuck buddys house and i ignore it keeping in mind what my friend told me. Dont get home till this morning. SHould I text her now or just leave it alone until the next time I feel like texting her (we are friends and if I cant get with her I'd like to stay that way)? I dont know if I should say sorry I missed the text and tell her I was at a chicks house last night to keep her a bit jealous? I want her to know im not here forever and since I already told her how I felt the balls in her court if she wants something more.
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Would you recommend giving things another try if it didnt work out in the first place because of :drugs, mental issues. But those have all been worked out because we both went to therapy and both of us are no longer using? He's coming to visit and I dont know what to expect. We havent seen each other in years. Maybe he'll arrive and there won't be a spark but that's ok.
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>>17981682
You sound like a player, your fb as you define it and your friend as you define it deserve better than being with you until you grow up and start being real with people
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>>17981636
"Hey congratulation on your certification, let's go out to celebrate! Dinner's on me."
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>>17981669
Get a vasectomy?
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>>17981494
Nope
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>>17981696
"Hey congratulations again on your EMT certification, let's go out to celebrate! Dinner's on me."

That should be good enough?

I only added "Again" as I congratulated her via text Friday night.
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>>17981579
People here say ita the exact opposite of what you just said. Courtship is mostly visibly done by the male but the female makes the man think he does everything while she does it more subtley.
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As a short guy I have no clue how I am supposed to approach women?

Since I'm confident and outgoing I naturally tried to do what my tall friends do but it doesn't work for me, duh! To strangers I'm just a short dude.

So I tried instead to befriend them for a bit for them to get to know my more redeeming qualities, but then I'm like their gay male friend or something. When they turn me down it's like they are putting down their pet puppy or something. I'm actually still friends with all the girls I asked out.

I also didn't have any luck with online dating because women just see my height and go, "Nope!".

So OK, I'm short, but it only matters if you make a big deal out of it. My height never stopped me from doing anything besides getting girls.

For the record I'm 5'3 so yeah, I'm short.
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Girls, at what height is a guys height unattractive, fine/doesn't matter, and attractive?
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>>17981650
>completely disinterested in girls or guys
Ah, I know the type, most formidable. Like Erdos. Free of distractions. Only cares about the Holy Grail. He would probably have a bright future. I wish I could be as devoted, but I'm a mere mortal, could never ignore a cute girl.
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>>17981742
Related to this anon's question. Is it weird to deliberately seek out women taller than I am (5'9")?
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>>17981745
Yeah he's pretty much "fuck bitches do calculus". Even back in school everyone used to fawn over him but he's never cared at all.
He's a good friend though so it'd probably be weird anyway but he does seem like a good catch.
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This probably is not the place to ask this, but whatever.

Girls, how do you like to be treated in general? I was homeschooled with no siblings growing up, and pretty much the only female in my life was my mom. Since she gets offended easily, it was kind of ingrained in my mind that girls are easy to offend. Should I treat girls like guys or do I need to tread on eggshells around them?
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>>17981742
>>17981762
Girls /generally/ want guys taller than them. That's it.
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>>17981744
Anything 1/2-1" shorter than I am, unattractive. Everything taller than that, attractive, Ideally though 2-3" taller so I can wear tall shoes
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>>17981744
>>17981769
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>>17981771
how tall are you?
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>>17981768
Show and tell her how you feel about her frequently, how much you care for her and if she genuinely loves you too, she will reciprocate your feeling very much and you will be happy together
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>>17981774
6'3
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>>17981693
I wish I was a player. I'm not leading her on, I legitimately dont know how she feels about me and she turned me down before. I'm trying to avoid being the beta orbiter who always responds to her texts and tries to be around her as much as possible.

Just cause i have a fuck buddy doesnt mean im a player. Im single and we both agreed to the terms of being fuck buddies and nothing else. If this other girl is interested and wants to go out with me I drop the fuck buddy thing, we have talked about it and she agrees that if either one of us starts dating it ends.
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>>17981677

Honestly, I think Aborortion is murder.

If someone can get charged for a double homicide for getting a pregnant woman, then killing a fetus is no different
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>>17981771
5'8" but I'm from a tall part of the world
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>>17981768
It depends on the person. Apart from show basic respect and attention, it's an individual matter.

Having said that, not all girls appreciate the typical banter that guys share. It does happen - currently in an all female clique where overdrawn insults are completely normal. But there's also plenty where this kind of behavior is absolutely not done... so wait until you actually know her sense of humor before calling her a whore in jest.

Similarly, from my observation most women expect more talking and personal bonding from a friendship than men do. It happens all the time that guys do stuff together and hang out together a lot, but wouldn't really know what to do with each other if all activities were stripped because they are never explicitly focusing on each other's company. This is very rare for women, who usually care more about that psychological aspect.
Having said that there's still going to be individual differences and obviously many women also enjoy interaction with men exactly because it isn't precisely the same as hanging out with female friends.

At the end of the day you're going to have the best results paying attention to what an individual person is like, and not setting out a token strategy based on her being female.
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>>17981701

I have thought about that. But I was told that your tubes can grow back together. I know someone who had to get it done twice >>17981708
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>>17981790

*killing a pregnant woman
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>>17981769
Does that mean no tall girls for me?
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>>17981790
I'm not that comfortable with abortion myself but what you're saying now is illogical. A woman legally has the right to terminate a pregnancy, -that's- what doesn't make it murder. Not that you aren't eradicating a potential life, because you are by definition.

It's just like suicide isn't murder even though technically you kill someone.
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>>17981795
cut your balls off
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>>17981779
You're a girl? I've never seen a woman anywhere near that height.
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>>17981790
I do too, so I'm not sure what to tell you. I think maybe you'll change your mind about the kids thing once you find a partner. I did. But even if you don't and you're really sure, perhaps you could get a vascectomy and then use other birth control on top of that.
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>>17981798
Key word is generally.
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>>17980881
Muh dick is diamonds. Feminism is cancer.
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>>17981800

That doesn't make sense.

If someone can get charged for murdering 2 people by killing a pregnant woman. How is it not murder if a mother chooses to abort?

The child can not consent. So it's not suicide. There can't be this double standard. If someone can't get charged for 2 murders by killing a pregnant woman, that means the fetus counts as a life. So a woman doing an abortion is also killing a life
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>>17981798
some girls have fetish for short guys

Find a dom girl for example
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>>17981805

Nah I won't. I really hate kids. My older brother had kids and I don't even consider myself an Uncle. I don't view them as nephews and nieces, I keep a far distance from them. I just hate kids
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>>17981819

*if someone CAN get charged

Fuck posting from mobile
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>>17981819
>>17981800
>>17981790
Please don't do this here
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>>17981823
>dom girl
I'm not an immaculated faggot. I just like girls on the tall side
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>>17981819
Go back to the suicide example. You are killing yourself but you get to decide whether you want to terminate your life, so it's not murder.

Legally that seals the deal of course, but then there's the question whether it should be legal.
Let's assess first that a fetus is not technically its own individual yet. You can legally terminate up until the point where the fetus would survive if they were to be born (with some rare exceptions, like giving birth likely killing the mother). Which means, if you can legally have an abortion, the fetus is 100% dependent on the mother for life. They get their oxygen, nutrients etc all from the mother. At this point, they are biologically not an independent person. We look at them that way because we know they grow into independent people, but they really are a parasite who is very much part of the host and shares in her organism.

If someone kills a pregnant woman, it's a different situation for two reasons. The first being that it's not their choice to make - and whether or not you agree, there's an array of reasons for why a mother should be able to decide what happens to what is for all intents and purposes her own body. Secondly, it is assumed that the fetus was not going to be terminated, which means that while they were not their own person -yet-, they were almost certainly going to grow into one (because the one person who can rightfully prevent that hasn't chosen to do so) and you single-handedly prevented that person from coming into existence when you had no right to.
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>>17981765
Eventually he would need a partner. I hope he's not actually like Erdos.

You should ask him to let you examine his penis to see if it's still functioning normally, this is a legit medical concern. Tell him that. If a man doesn't get hard for too long his dick deteriorates and there are associated diseases with it and he wouldn't be able to do math anymore.
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>>17981840
One of the biggest reasons to be in favor of abortion despite it being an all around nasty business, is the principle of bodily integrity. It would simply create insane legal situations for abortion to be illegal. For example, you can legally refuse to donate bone marrow or even blood, even if your own mother would die if you don't. Zero issue. It is a really weird, backwards situation if you can let a living person die because you don't want to give some tissue, but you cannot prevent person from existing because you don't want to a) go through the pregnancy with all its associated health risks and b) pour your money/time/life into this unwanted kid for at least a solid twenty years. The consequences are much graver, the price is lower, but that would be illegal and letting your own mother die off because you can't be fucked to donate is perfectly legal...

Not to mention there's still no contraceptives that are 100% foolproof, which means that even with optimal use by everyone, there will be some hugely unlucky fuckers who through no fault of their own have their life wrecked beyond repair.

>>17981833
This is a discussion board and the thread's almost reached post limit anyway..
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>>17981836
>I'm not an immaculated faggot
oh well sucks for you. That's a dilemma.
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I like this guy that lives in another country, we know each other from way back when he was an exchange student here. We have been talking a lot on facebook, I didn't realise how much of a crush I have developped. I know he is dating someone else and he says he's confused about that and about how much he truly likes her, what to do with it etc. I thought it would do me nothing but I hate the idea he would slip away because he gets with this girl and we didn't get a chance. Would it be okay to just be blunt and saying I'd like to meet up and have a proper date because I like him a lot? Or do I wait until he figures things out with that other girl?
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>>17981840
STOP the thread isn't even near bump limit yet. Both of you have valid points and compelling arguments but this will completely derail and shit up the thread.
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>>17981836
Hey fuck you. Submissive men are hot and there's many different ways of being submissive, doesn't have to mean you're into pain/humiliation or mommyplay.
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>>17981841
He's probably unironically a little bit autistic. He masturbates at least, but he has no interest in, quote, "three-dimensional women".
And I'm probably not gonna ask him to examine his dick but thanks for the idea.
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>>17981850
Uh, no? Be a decent person and wait till they fizzle out.
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guys:
what are some kinky things i can do on my bf to tease him?
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Guys, my bf and i have a lot of sex. I'm talking atleast 3 times a day.
Sometimes, like today, he can't get hard anymore for obvious reasons (we had sex 5 times today...). But he WANTS to have sex anyways. It's weird. I tell him that we'll take a break and whatever but he insists that he wants to continue, even though his dick is soft. He tries to get himself hard again by masturbating but then i usually just call it off because it is so god damn forced. Why would he do that? I asked him but got no real answer. (he just insisted that he WANTS to continue...)
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>>17981853
>He masturbates at least
Have you ever seen this?
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>>17981875
fuck his dad.
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>>17981881
Are you trying to make them a couple in some twisted way?

>Hey, can I look at you masturbating?
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>>17981877
He wants to be inside you more than his dick physically allows? This does happen to a lot of men. Kinda suck for them.
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>>17981881
Haha, God no. But we've talked about sexuality before and such.
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>>17981711
Yep. I'll use this I think?
"Hey, congratulations again on your EMT certification, we should go out to celebrate! Dinner's on me."
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>>17981892
But i told him to just stop it and cuddle with me instead. That would be much better than him trying to get a hardon for whatever reason.
If he does, we usually cuddle for a while and then he gets hard again and we can continue. But i guess his pride is in his way or some crap like that?
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>>17981889
Yes. That's what I do in my free time. There are a lot of lonely people out there who would actually be attracted to each other.
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>>17981900
Yes. Maybe you can play with his microsoft dick.
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>>17981905
I also think that pairing people isn't a bad thing but I'm just saying that they should ask to watch someone masturbate is kinda weird way to start a relationship
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>>17981905
>>17981909
I do appreciate the help but I'm not sure asking to watch him masturbate is gonna get me laid (or into a relationship)
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>>17981899
Oh.
Also, I was the last one to send a message in the conversation. But that was friday night.

Is it fine to send her something like what I mentioned?
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>>17981907
I do that. To no avail. His dick is just done. There's nothing anybody could do to get it hard in that moment and somehow he just can't accept that even though it is clearly not any case of "malfunction", just exhaustion. Why can't he just let it go?
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>>17981765
Handsome loner here, he probably noticed most of the women who showed interest in him didn't really care about him and viewed him as a means for their own gratification
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>>17981899
Sounds good to me.
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>>17981909
>>17981915
ok lol I was saying that more because perhaps she just thought he masturbates but he doesn't. I thought this guy is like an ascetic scholar of some sort, but if he masturbates then he's not really what I imagined.
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>>17981877
Is it only fucking that he wants? Oral is a lot easier to do when his dick is soft, or mutual masturbation where he can get himself hard in the process.

Could he be addicted to sex? If for whatever reason you aren't able to see each other for a day or two, can he handle that without becoming irritable and irrational? If you ever reject him, does he accept that more or less gracefully?
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>>17981929
Good. My concern now is just this >>17981919
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>>17981921
Yeah sounds like some mental issue. 5 times... the whole place must smell really bad.
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THIS IS SPARTA
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>>17981915
Diffrent guy. Do you want to get in relationship with him? Do you both have topics to talk about?
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>>17981932
He isn't interested in oral at that moment.
We sometimes switch to mutual masturbation, which is nice too.

No, not at all. He hates that. And he gets grumpy if i reject him...
Might he be addicted to sex? How can i tell and if so, what could i do?
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>>17981943
What mental issues?
Why would that result in bad smell? We're very hygienic.
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>>17981954
At first i was like wtf what is this. The saw we were at 300 replies. Well played anon.
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>>17981958
from what I gathered, she loves to be creampied, he loves 2D women and Calculus. Beautiful love story.
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>>17981925
That's funny because it's usually the other way around, no?
I wouldn't want to use him for gratification, I'd want to date him.

>>17981931
He's not ascetic as such, just not interested in romance or multi-player sexuality I suppose.

>>17981958
I don't know. As I said he's attractive and we get along well, have fun together, enjoy talking to each other, have some common interest (for example we've both started stock trading, he from a tech analysis POV and me from a financial one) and I'd say we're good friends.

>>17981964
Shush Anon there's more about me than the joy of being cummed inside.
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>>17981960
Yeah it's possible to be addicted to sex. Having said that it's a fine line between addiction and simply being young with a very high libido.

The main defining aspect of addiction is that you don't care anymore if it ruins other parts of your life/relationship. Eg if he'll damage his reputation at work to do a quicky while he already needs to be on his way. When he'll risk his relationship with you by disrespecting your refusal or not caring that you are less attracted to him if it's daily recurring thing where he's fapping furiously while you are bored and waiting for him to mount you.

Obviously it's not a matter of being grumpy once or twice because you had to handle a rejection. It's about overall patterns and not being able to attach a proportionate value to sex. I would look up more online and see if you recognize him in the stuff written about this.

>>17981961
Sex itself smells (semen, vaginal fluids, sweat). If very fresh it's fine but if not it's not really the most pristine smell there is.
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>>17981973
And I forgot to include this but what did he do before getting together with you? If he jumped straight from one relationship to the other, especially if he's done it often, that's a minor little red flag as well in this context (that he might not be able to cope with being single and not fucking on the regular).
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>>17981973
>ruins other parts of your life/relationship. Eg if he'll damage his reputation
I think he'd sooner damage his dick
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>>17981979
Quite possible as well, but it's not that extraordinary for a young guy to think he's immortal. It usually takes some chronic pain/damage to burst that bubble.
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>>17981967
Did he actually tell you he specifically don't want relationship or just never met someone he liked?
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>>17981967
>it's usually the other way around, no?
Which is why I think it might fuck with men who want more than sex's heads.

Take it slow, gain his trust, put the idea in his head, and most importantly always be blindingly honest. He'll be indecisive at first, but bear with him; if he's anything like me he will appreciate a pretty lady whom he trusts genuinely caring about him
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>>17981990
He said he's never had any interest in any real girls and that he doesn't really care about sex or something. He doesn't really go out clubbing or any such things either. Drinks casually at bars with friends but never seen him drunk.
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>>17981998
Well I thought he might be more like me. I only want to date girl that has very similiar interests to me and since I also never really met anyone with right combination I'm rather lonely.

However getting back to your case I don't think you two can date. You might have chance when he won't be too keen on having no interest in anyone and sex. Of course I might be wrong with that but don't get your hopes too high.
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>>17981973
He is 23 and very healthy/fit. We also can only meet up on the weekends, so we have some "catching up" to do.

I will definitely read up on it. Thanks anon!

I don't know how he was with casual sex before we met, but as far as i can judge this, i would say he's nit the type to have had loads of sex outside of relationships and his last relationship has been 2 years ago.


Yeah, sex can smell. But you can pretty much eliminate that with proper hygiene
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>>17982014
So you'd rather date someone who studies something similar I guess?

Yeah I mean I'm not awfully distraught about it in any case, I didn't really think I'd date him, but he's just kind of an interesting guy to me. I'm not having any sleepless nights over it.
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>>17982016
It does make a difference to me that you can only see each other on the weekends. What about his general attitude towards sex - can he enjoy cuddling, romantic making out or a playful slap on your ass without instantly needing to put it in?

No problem! Also obviously don't stop trying to discuss it with him. Especially if it's too much for you - three-five times is A LOT. It's perfectly normal to prefer it, hell, to enjoy sex itself more if it's slowed down a bit. But either way it's important to know what's going on. I don't think it's that likely but you don't want to risk him having some sort of warped mindset that he must completely satisfy you or you'll cheat on him when he can't be with you or something...

Eh, none of the stuff I mentioned really has to do with hygiene. Even if you're fresh out of the shower you break into a sweat if you're having sex with some passion, and even if your diets are very clean and your fluids have minimal taste/smell there's juices produced during sex that come with their own scent. It's no big deal, just make sure to crack open a window because it will be a LOT more noticeable to visitors than to you if you've been around it all the time yourselves.
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>>17981899
Sent basically that. changed a tiny bit. Time to wait
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>>17982038
Well I soldier and no I would date someone who likes similiar books, movies, games etc. Who likes to talk about philosophy which I enjoy reading about a lot. Things like that you know
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>>17982044
*I'm soldier
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>>17981998
This guy is strange if he's in a big university surrounded by attractive girls like when I was an undergrad. Party most weekends until exam, dated a few girls (really hard not to) and had as much sex as I could. Until I reached real analysis which was the first non trivial subject (back then I was very arrogant). Now in gradschool I moved to another uni and practice a more disciplined approach though still retained the teaching of Hardy (working no more than four hours a day in the morning and then reserving the rest of the day for cricket and tennis/ or in my case hanging out with this undergrad girl and her friends). It's partly because none of my colleagues are at my age. And I'd rather be exempted from the machination of academic politics (this is a joke btw it's mostly 50 something sages talking about esoteric concepts, basically alien language to a guy in mid 20)
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To women,
How the fuck do I light this sparkle of morethanfriends interest in a woman?
I have plenty of female friends, and generally I get along well with people of bouth genders, but I'm 19, have never dated, or even had anything close to an SO, and it's getting depressing as shit. Any help?
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>>17982173
Most common way (apart from mutually established attraction based on looks/demeanor right away) is by flirting. Being a friend to a woman isn't the same as her lover. You definitely don't want to be a douchebag to a woman to become her boyfriend, but a lover needs to be a bit spicier than a friend, not just endlessly sweet and patient and reliable. Those are great qualities especially for a LTR, but they are not directly arousing.

This is where flirting comes in. It's a way to show off your playfulness, to tease her and catch her off guard, to be cheeky about your interest in sex/women/her specifically. Basically it's a way to introduce her to how you could be as a romantic partner, where you are both the person who is sweet and supportive and the one who calls her out on her shit and turns her inside out in the bedroom.
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>>17982198
That's fairly helpful. I guess.

Kinda hard to grasp by words but I'll make due.

Thanks anon!
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>>17982223
It is, flirting is mostly a matter of practice and different people have a different style they are comfortable with. You just have to find out what works for you, in order to be able to present yourself as a man interacting with a woman and not just as a potential friend.
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>>17982084
That's pretty much how it is. Lots of pretty girls around him (and definitely some cuter than me) and I'm sure some would be interested in him, very much so. He's not hard on the eyes and easy to get along with I'd say, so there's definitely a chance.
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Other guys, why do you ask if one's got a GF? Are you trying to laugh at, are you geniunely concerned, what else? My friend said he'd die in peace as soon as he sees my GF for once. Thing is I haven't had anyone for 23 years.
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Girl liked my pictures on the gram from a couple weeks ago, is she trying to get me to notice her?
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>going on a trip soon
>passing through where i used to live
>girl i've been in love with/lust/crush/whatever since high school (I'm nearly 27 now) lives there
>she's recently single
>i've always wanted to fuck her
>she always thought of me as a friend back in the day

help me achieve this, /adv/

I've been wanting to screw this girl for like 12-13 years now. I'm still a virgin too.
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>>17982228
Hmm, I'm not this guy but I tend to think I'm a decent flirter. My style is really playful, I like to tease a lot and I'm very sarcastic, especially from my humor. I get good reactions, I love when I say something and they look almost a little shocked that I said that to them but I give them that sly smirk so they know I'm just giving them shit. I get a lot of laughs and usually a playful smack on the arm or something. It also blows up sometimes and I have been called rude, or worse, obnoxious. But generally positive reactions.

The problem is I dont know what to do next, i dont know how to escalate from flirting to something more.
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>>17982529
Youre focused on fucking her too much, you see that as the goal instead of making a connection. Youre selfish, probs ugly too and way too passive, which is why you were, and will be, just a friend,
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Thinking about taking the girl I like on a date to a museum of sex. Thoughts?
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>>17981780
>beta orbiter
you already have a fb asshat
reverse the roles and see if you'd be okay with it
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>>17982798
So she has a fuck buddy and she wants to get with me, but i only see her as a friend and therefore dont see her with romantic interest? I wouldn't feel anything about that if it were me, I dont see her as a partner in that scenario, do i?

Cause thats whats going on here. Im trying to find out if shes into me, she already turned me down once, when we saw each other again i might have thought there would be something more. I had/have feelings for her, but she saw me as a friend only. If I keep responding to every text she sends me and try to hang out every chance I get, Im gonna come across as someone whos there on hand and foot responding to every bit of attention she throws my way. If shes see my attention isnt guaranteed and that I have value, then she might think of me a bit different. Just because I have a fb doesnt mean that I'm not acting like a beta orbiter with other women.

If she wants a relationship with me, she'll get a bit jealous that I didnt respond and instead was with a chick. She knows Im single, Ive told her, and shes told me the same. I put my feelings out there before and she wasnt interested then. If she was now, she knows how I feel and should do something, im trying to put the impetus on her to engage.

Anyway, I texted her today that my phone died and that I was out all night with my friend and I made sure to say "she" didnt have a charger at her place, therefore I didnt see the text. I followed up with asking her how yesterday night went. She texted me back that it was fine and nothing else, she didnt even address my question about her night. I dont know what to make of that.
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To either male or female, what's your stance on pubic hair?
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>>17983031
Doesnt need to be shaved (as a guy, I acutally like a little bush, its natural) but try to trim it/shape it at least, it shouldb be poking out of your panties. As for me, I keep it trimmed (shaving complete is a nightmare when it grows back) and try to keep it neat. I also get weird dick hairs i try to pull out, anyone else get those or am i alone?
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>>17983031
As a girl, prefer to be clean shaven. Always disliked pubic hair ever since it started growing. I had two older sisters who always told me it was gross and unkempt to have any so that might have influenced me.
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Girls

How long to wait for a text reply from girl before moving on?
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>>17983193
how long has it been?
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