How do I resist the urge to talk politics on Facebook? What do

>>17976596

if you don't have any self control over what to talk about on facebook than you can't really be that much better than them now can you

Mentally walk away.

>>17976596
>How do I resist the urge to talk politics on Facebook?
Choose your battles wisely. You have to realize that sometimes your opinion won't change people and move on. Especially for people like that like to censor and dogpile--they'll just make you feel bad. Half of my family is like that, so I tend to just vent to people that like discussion.

>>17976605
>>17976609
I hear you. But I feel like I have a moral obligation to stand up for this guy No one else is defending him in the comments. Like I said, it just really rustles (mangles?) my jimmies.

But you're probably right: I stand only to lose by getting involved, so I probably wont. Feels bad.

>>17976603
I do have self control. But I'm not allowed to feel frustrated?

>>17976596
By realizing that they are retards and that even if you could BTFO them you'll just look like an asshole and lose social points rather than changing anyones mind about irrelevent shit. Better just to smug it out and smirk at them from behind your moniter rather than stooping to the level of "debates" on a social media platform.

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>>17976596

>Anyway, this endorsement of violence against free expression by the same liberals that are "literally shaking" about a supposedly fascist president has made me mad, and I really want to say anything.

Punching Nazis is ok, dude. This ideology that everyone should be polite and passive to people who hint at and lead movements who support ethnic cleansing and white separatism is a crock of shit. He may not be a personally violent person but his words are fuel to those who are and until you're in a position where those people are knocking at your door, threatening your family with his words running through their heads, this whole "Nazis have feelings too" concept is a fucking moot point.

This country was founded on violent revolt and a violent defense of our home and freedom. Maybe you don't feel in danger but understand that a lot of people do, and frankly, historically speaking, nothing is more American than dissidence, protest and rioting.

When someone starts preaching ideas that influences other people to foster even a moderate amount of moral justification for violence against your family and home a punch to the face is the very least of what they have coming.

I absolutely, 100% endorse this violence. Fuck free expression. Intolerance and Nazi inspired nationalism and separatism is not welcome in my home or my country and I will fight it by any means necessary.

Someone needs to put a bullet in this sack of shit and show the rest of the skinheads and white nationalists who revere him that we're not going to take this lying down.

>>17976620
>But I'm not allowed to feel frustrated?
You wont have a happy life if you feel frustrated over dumb shit like this.

>>17976633
I don't entirely agree, but at least you seem more thoughtful than my facebook friends.

You invoke American tradition "this country was founded on..." and yet say "fuck free expression," rejecting the very FIRST amendment of the constitution.

This is that classic issue: you can't only allow speech that you agree with.

>>17976652
Well, I think that's flatly wrong.

>>17976672
Man, look, the problem isn't free expression. I understand you that you want to defend the "underdog" but... I don't really think he deserve it.

If you want to help people, knock yourself out, but good actions don't always receive praise. I don't really think you need to be this much "politically correct". Freedom is awesome, sure, but there are some things that really abuse the advantages of the gray area... like saying that a whole country, sustained by all kinds of people, belongs to a single kind.

There are exceptions, Anon. Too much of anything is like a poison, and you gotta know your limits if you don't want to suffer because of it.

>>17976596
You shouldn't hold your tongue on political matters. It is how we got into this mess, through self censorship.

>>17976691
>Too much of anything is like a poison, and you gotta know your limits if you don't want to suffer because of it.
That's a good point, for sure. I still don't think I can endorse violence in this instance, but you've softened my stance a little bit.

>>17976708
Anon, you seem like an upstanding person. You remind me of how I was at high school. Oh well, follow your heart. I know this isn't the logical answer you want, but there's only so much logic can do for you.

A warning, though: Whatever you do, be able to deal with the consequences. Your freedom ends where the freedom of someone else starts, so be wise, and be considerate, for yourself and for others. Good intentions can lead to misery, bad intentions can save lives. There's no need to always rely on a single answer for everything, so knock yourself out.

>>17976596
>violence against free expression
freedom of speech means the government can't punish you for what you say (barring obvious things like imminent threats, etc). it means nothing between individuals. "talk shit, get hit".

while I agree legally the guy can be charged with assault, "suppression of free speech" is not an issue here.

>>17976790
+1 yes this

There is really no reason to take the high road with people who do not recognise your basic fucking humanity.

People are hypocritical all the time in politics on both sides. You can't get too angry over stuff like that. Nothing wrong with talking politics IMO, but keep it civil.

>>17976790
>>17976838
Responding to ideas with violence is idiotic, it makes it look like you don't have an argument. I'm not at all fond of Richard Spencer or his ideas, but a stupid attack like this is the best publicity he could possibly hope for.

Going to DC to protest tomorrow. I hope I get a chance to punch one of those /pol/ neo-nazi faggots.

>>17976596
it goes both ways tho. the "alt righters" are just as bad with their outrage culture. so just let both sides play their retarded games so they can feel like they are in control while people who don't give a fuck about their politics strip them of their freedoms and enact more forms of power over everyone.

>>17976863
Dude the fucking white nationalists already won the election. They already won the publicity game. They are the government. It is TOO LATE to try to hope that public opinion is going to turn against them.

It's never worth it to talk about politics unless you're a politician or with the media because in both of those instances you're being paid. You gotta remember that normies are typically uninformed about politics and think it weird to be otherwise so stirring a pot of shit is never a good idea.

>>17976892
oh fuck off. Just because white nationalists supported Trump does not mean he is one himself.

>>17976954
>Who is Stephen K. Bannon

>>17976958
That's a funny way to spell Trump, is he the same person?

>>17976672

>This is that classic issue: you can't only allow speech that you agree with.

Nope. It has nothing to do with not allowing it. I'm not calling for censorship, I'm calling for a measured response against extreme speech.

When I say "fuck free expression" I mean fuck this idea that people have in their heads that free expression means that you shouldn't have to bear the consequences of the words that come out of your mouth. First amendment only protects your words, not your ass.

The first amendment only covers your protected right to say what you want. If the public decides they don't want to hear your bullshit, its very much so American tradition for the people to rise up, tar and feather your punk ass and run you out of town.

>>17976863

>Responding to ideas with violence is idiotic, it makes it look like you don't have an argument.

I also vehemently reject this idea, that for some reason if you respond with violence against someone who specifically wishes you and your family harm by spreading toxic ignorance and hate speech you're an idiot

Punching nazis is 100% ok. They need to know that their toxic bullshit is going to receive more than just a quiet, calm debate. You don't debate with people who want you dead, you fight them. You can sit down and try to reason with them if you want but I'm going to take to the streets and make them scared to show their faces

>>17976954

>Just because white nationalists supported Trump does not mean he is one himself.

There's a big difference between being an active racist and a passive one. Trump might not be the one stringing up the noose but he was happy to sell them the rope and walk away.

In many ways, overlooking and allowing racism to exist around you and be a key component to your power structure is just as bad as being a racist yourself.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. I personally contest that if you do nothing then you're probably not a good man

Regardless of whether Trump himself is a white nationalist, the white nationalists definitely won this election.

>>17976596
Don't do it, it's never a good idea.

>>17977011
Only because you retards lumped Trump in with whatever racist boogeyman you hopped yourselves on off of /pol/ shitposts.

Face it. You created your own enemy, and let it win. If Trump was mocked solely for being a businessman running for office he wouldn't be in office and /pol/ wouldn't be claiming victory. But you and the rest of the MSM goons had to brand everyone you disliked as a racialist because you thought it'd give Clinton the White House, and now you're laying in the bed you've made. Roost in it.

>>17977022

>Only because you retards lumped Trump in with whatever racist boogeyman you hopped yourselves on off of /pol/ shitposts.

We didn't lump Trump in with anything. The boogeymen are very real and Trump is lining his cabinets with them. Pretending like the reality before us is all in our heads does not at all negate the fact that it exists.

>Face it. You created your own enemy, and let it win.

Stop lumping anyone who dislikes Trump in as a Hillary supporter. Its disingenuous and misrepresentative of the entire movement. The democratic party sucks.

The fact of the matter is that the people who voted for Trump are, at the very least, racist through willful ignorance. They might not actively hate minorities but they were willing to overlook the fact that their candidate surrounds himself with racists and has had a long history of questionable, racist practices. They either weren't willing to acknowledge it or in their desperation for a change in the White House just decided not to.

I may not be a rapist but if I hang out with rapists and allow them to be close people in my life and I say questionable things about sexual assault (which our President has actually done), then that speaks volumes about my character even though I never actually raped someone, doesn't it?

Like I said before, Trump supporters may not be stringing up the noose themselves but they were sure fine to just hand off the rope and walk away. They may not be actively racist but racism didn't bother them enough to stop them from electing a historically racist, elitist hunk of shit.

>>17976987
>I'm calling for a measured response against extreme speech.
Literally assaulting someone is not a measured response.

>First amendment only protects your words, not your ass.
The whole point of the first amendment is to protect your ass after speaking those words. You can always say "fuck the govt", the issue is when they start beating you afterwards. If you say you don't want to give this guy a platform, hey more power to you! That's definitely a tradition in this country. But you're defending something fundamentally different.

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>>17977313
>they were willing to overlook the fact that their candidate surrounds himself with racists
The exact same thing can be said of Hillary. If you want a candidate that has no relation to racists you're going to be digging a very long time. Trump went out of his way to open admission to Jews and Blacks with his country club, yet Hillary only stopped going to one that did the opposite after she received flak over it in the media for instance.

>has had a long history of questionable, racist practices.
Who else will bring these super predators to heel? No empathy, no conscience.

>>17977022

This election is a victory for white nationalists, definitely.

Trump, with his words and actions could of made it less of a victory by distancing himself from them and their ideologies but he decided not to. To be fair, its a smart move on his part because he knows those people are his base.

He's a businessman. Whether or not he is a white nationalist isn't the point. He knew he would have their support if he aligned with them so all he really had to do was keep up the rhetoric and just avoid talking about it.

I mean, it took him several days to make any kind of statement about distancing himself from David Duke, a known KKK leader, but it took him fucking 15 minutes to hop on his twitter and bash Meryl Streep and the shitty Broadway play actors that dared to say a few words to his lego-haired VP.

If he really wanted to distance himself from the racism and violence surrounding his campaign he would of, but he didn't. Thats the reality.

>>17977331
>I mean, it took him several days to make any kind of statement about distancing himself from David Duke, a known KKK leader

>"The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."
Cool mentor Hillary, want to bring him to the white house?

The only people this country has gotten worse for is straight white men.

No Christian white dude is out rioting in the streets acting like an ape. It's all a bunch of leftist retards. And then they cry about what a monster trump is. It's a fucking joke and it makes me rage that they're so smug with their hypocrisy. This is actually why me and my gf broke up because it turns out she's an insane sjw who hates her own race.

Modern liberalism is a mental disease, I feel your pain op. I've just learned to ignore it.

>>17977325

>Literally assaulting someone is not a measured response.

When its your family and loved ones being targeted by white nationalists and racists who are swallowing that propaganda and using it as justification for violence and aggression, yes it is.

Like I said, maybe you'd like to sit down and have a nice polite debate with the people that want you dead but I prefer to literally assault someone, thanks.

>The whole point of the first amendment is to protect your ass after speaking those words.

No. Thats not the point at all. The first amendment is in no way designed to shield you from the consequences for the words you speak.

If someone gets caught assaulting you for saying something then, sure, they get charged. Thats the way the law works, but to suggest that someone should be able to spew hateful rhetoric and incite violence but simultaneously be somehow shielded from violence and repercussions under the umbrella of the first amendment is ridiculous

If that was the case then the first amendment absolutely failed Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X because they were assassinated for exercising their first amendment rights.

Ideas are more than just words. Ideas have consequences.

>But you're defending something fundamentally different.

Yes I am. Its not enough for me to have a sit down with a bunch of skinheads and racists and convince them nicely not to hate me or hurt me. I want them to be afraid to leave their house. I want them looking over their shoulder whenever they wear their swastikas. I want these mother fuckers so terrified to be nazis that them and the generation after them know that the country they live in will not stand for it and will defend themselves by any means necessary.

Its very easy to be a pacifist when it isn't your ass on the line. In this case, I've chosen to take action. They want a war and I'm not coming to them with patience, understanding and calm discourse. They come with knives, I come with guns. Period.

>>17977348
White nationalists aren't the ones rioting in the streets and literally attacking people.

Even that bullshit of people tagging swastikas and shit after trump was elected was proved to be bullshit and done by liberals trying to stir shit.

White nationalists just want white genocide to stop. But liberals have the mental capacity of children and that's why they keep resorting to burning and destroying cities like uncultured animals.

>>17977334

>Cool mentor Hillary, want to bring him to the white house?

Anti-Trump does not equal Pro-Hillary. I dunno how many fucking times I have to explain this to you people. Every time someone has something negative to say about Trump all you can manage to do is cackle something about Hillary because for some reason in your head no one is allowed to criticize Trump unless they're rampant Clinton fans.

Also, thats a quote by Robert Byrd, a man who, Bill Clinton, not Hillary, whose big controversy was that in 2010 he had once described Byrd as a "country boy with a fleeting association with the KKK who only joined to get elected". I'm not sure what that has to do with anything or what it proves, exactly.

>>17977348

It's funny because the only ones spreading and advocating violence are you and your kind. You have literally nothing to whine or have this violent of a reaction about, but your advocating hurting and killing people because you've listened to tumblr too much and worked yourself into a hysterical mess.

>>17977358

>White nationalists aren't the ones rioting in the streets and literally attacking people.

Yeah. So?

>White nationalists just want white genocide to stop.

You mean the white genocide thats not actually happening at all?

>But liberals have the mental capacity of children and that's why they keep resorting to burning and destroying cities like uncultured animals.

And we'll keep burning and destroying cities until every last one of you nazi apologist pieces of shit are dead. Watch your fucking back, kid. We'll be in your city soon enough.

>>17977371

>Yeah. So?

So you're pieces of shits who are the new nazis and white nationalists.

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>>17977335

>The only people this country has gotten worse for is straight white men.

This would be funny if not for the fact that you actually believe this.

>>17977371
>You mean the white genocide thats not actually happening at all?
>And we'll keep burning and destroying cities until every last one of you nazi apologist pieces of shit are dead

Live action irony here folks

>>17977366

>It's funny because the only ones spreading and advocating violence are you and your kind.

We respond to violence with violence. I absolutely advocate violence in defense of your home and freedom. White nationalists and nazi apologists want us dead. I'd prefer if they were dead first. Period.

>You have literally nothing to whine or have this violent of a reaction about

You're more than entitled to your opinion.

>So you're pieces of shits who are the new nazis and white nationalists.

Nazis and white nationalists are the new nazis and white nationalists. There can't be new ones if the old ones haven't gone away kid.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. As the white nationalists rise, so will we. When their rallies pop up, we'll be there to crush them. When their speeches come to town, we'll be there to shut them down.

People like you keep telling us to lay down and be non-violent and passive while white supremacy and hate comes to our town to preach their garbage and my answer to that is simple and measured "fuck you".

>>17977378

If you're not a nazi apologist piece of shit then you have nothing to fear. I'm perfectly fine with a nazi genocide. 100% cool with it.

Also, I feel like you don't actually understand what the word genocide means.

White genocide? What a fucking joke.

>>17977381

There's no violence against you though.

You're the different side of the same coin as nazis. Violent, hysterical thugs who promote violence against others because of bullshit reasons.

>>17977387
I feel like you literally don't understand what Nazis are, because they aren't even a thing anymore you mouth breathing retard.

>>17977387
>America in 1960, 90% white
>America today, 60% white

are you willfully ignorant or just retarded...?

>>17977365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA
>My friend and mentor

Fleeting association!

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>>17977371
>And we'll keep burning and destroying cities until every last one of you nazi apologist pieces of shit are dead.
It's fascinating to watch. For the most part they're attacking people who are on their side too. I mean sure this one alt right guy got punched, but it's a drop in an ocean of piss at best.

Even if we think assaulting people is permissible, they're going about it in an absolutely retarded manner.

>>17977387
>If you're not a nazi apologist piece of shit then you have nothing to fear.
lol no

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>>17977371
>We'll be in your city soon enough.
>he thinks everyone lives in the city

Honestly this shit is really good at illuminating why Trump won famalamadingdong.

>>17977423
Here's what I don't understand. This picture. How can all the liberals that claim they're for "love and peace" ignore this picture and realize their side is responsible for it?

This is what confirms modern liberalism is a mental disease for me

>>17976596

You take a deep fucking breath, you wait a bit, and then you talk about it rationally.

Let's be honest, people like Richard Spencer are fucking assholes who talk a lot of shit because they live in their comfy little worlds where they can say whatever bullshit they want because the very freedoms that they implicitly pontificate against protect their asses.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that they should be physically assaulted for speaking their mind.

Regardless of what you believe, that last bit is undeniable and only the most immature or extreme of your friends are going to disagree - so you talk about that. It sounds like you're mostly mad about the assault (which you should be mad about) so don't get sucked into the actual ideology.

>>17977439

Unfortunately it's because you literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Are you a fascist neo nazi, too? If not, then you probably shouldn't be resorting to garbage like talking as if "all liberals are...", either.

>>17977447
At the end of the day I saw /pol/ cheering and libtards cheering and if you have no side supporting you its honestly time to fucking stop before you get punched. So he didn't do that.

Sometimes a guy just goes too far and gets his card pulled.

Understand that no-one's viewpoints will change. The only thing that will happen is that you will develop a reputation for being a weirdo that picks fights on peoples facebook posts, something you will look back on in shame no matter how right you were.

been there, done that. Just need to walk away

>be neo-nazi
>support what the nazi's did (which is a lot of killing)
>spread hate through a hideously childish reading of Nietzsche
>call yourself 'the Karl Marx of the alt right'
>stand on the street during inauguration day with a smug face, surrounded by anarchist and otherwise people who vehemently oppose your view, trying to deny you're an neo-nazi
>get socked in the jaw
>AHMYGAWD DEEZ LIBRULS MUH FEELINGS NO VYOLENZZZZZZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
pathetic

>>17976633

I assume that you're an American.

This your hate towards white separatism and hate towards whites only work in countries which native people are not white. You can't be with that same mindset example in Europe because native people are all white and have historical connections to land and they have every right to claim that land just like native people of Americas. If native people decide to be these "nazis" and they are white and you are not OK with that then you are obviously in wrong place.

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>>17976596
Going against the leftist narrative is a good way to quickly lose friends on kikebook.
I learned that the hard way.
>mfw I don't give a shit, because anyone who is willing to "unfriend" someone over political disagreements is not worth my time anyways.

>>17976633
Nice showing your real colors, you disgusting leftist scumbag.
"Anti Racism" means hunting down every last white person and replacing them with shitskins.

>>17978355
This. No amount of words, no amount of evidence will ever shake them of their narrative. You're wasting your time even bothering.

Also
>Facebook
Why?

>>17976892
>trump
>white nationalist.

How dumb can you be?

>>17976892
Just because you believe your own lies, doesn't make them true

>>17976596
>being emotionally invested in politics

Read Descartes bro. Focus on yourself and not external affairs.

Delete your facebook while you're at it.

Watch Swiss Army Man. Social media is Platos Cave.

>>17977387
You daft fucking cunt do realize that even according to UN, demographic replacement (which is what is going on in USA, and Europe as well, the native fucking homelands of white people), is by definition, fucking genocide.
Germans and Swedes will be a minority in their homelands within 100 years because THEY ARE BEING REPLACED VIA MASS IMMIGRATION.

White Genocide is real.

Just, take it easy dude, the ship is going to sink at anyways just relax and enjoy your last moments

>>17978919
Literally this. At this point nazis are just useful idiots to accomplish our goals.

>>17979298
By goals I mean the complete destruction of PC and all the refugees need to go back asap

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>>17976633
>When someone starts preaching ideas that influences other people to foster even a moderate amount of moral justification for violence against your family and home a punch to the face is the very least of what they have coming.
please tell me how you lot aren't hypocrites blind to your own bullshit

>I absolutely, 100% endorse this violence.
please tell me how you lot aren't (and historically always have been the violent ones)

Please.

>>17976707
seconding this

change for the better happens when those who are cowed into silence stop falling quiet and start standing up and unabashedly speaking truth

>If you're not weighing the risk of conflict or punishment or headache against the cost of getting to avoid it, you're not doing it right. That progressives are so blindingly manipulative and hypocritical and casually violent should serve as more incentive to expose their deceit, not less.

Stoicism is a skill whose mastery is admirable. This does not preclude it from becoming a crutch. Make use of the discretion & discipline gained.

>>17977358
>>17977366
bingo, what's so hard to understand about this? are they being stubborn and deliberately retarded because they don't want to have to acknowledge it or what?

>>17976620

>i do have self control
>which is why im demanding advice on how to control myself

hmmmm

>>17979399
>demanding

>>17976633
I'm a liberal and I'm kind of starting to agree. I was a big fan of the "When they go low, we go high" rhetoric, but it's being used to fuck us in the ass.

We got completed cheated out of a supreme court justice with our own politeness. We got arguably cheated out of an election twice now. We're letting these dickheads run all over us. Good for the guy who punched him. Let's start fighting back. If they want violence, we'll give them violence.

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>>17979430
>claiming that the right wants violence while advocating for violence yourself.

Just leftist things.

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>>17977371
>Watch your fucking back, kid

*Teleports behind you*
*Knocks over trash can*
Psh, nothin' personell.

>>17979430
Leftists are all the meanest idiots. Jesus.

The reason why you got your elections "stolen" is that your people all like the benefits of living in TWO states with the biggest urban populations. The people who vote Republican live everywhere else and so more states voted for Trump than Hillary. And Bush than Gore.

Its why you legitimately don't deserve to rule. You were happy to just ignore all the problems of this nation with Obama, allow things to get so bad with rioting, looting, and white people tend to use the system to fuck you over, so that is what they did.

The guy who won the most states, appealed to the people who feel ignored so he won. Its not some vast conspiracy, it means the system works because its not oppressing vast groups forever because of California putting its foot down on everything.

The right wing also has no violence intended for you, the left wing has done 90% (trying to give the benefit of the doubt) of the violence and causing division with fake news, you people are unworthy of any power because you only use it unwisely or to oppress with your mandates and intimidation which literally never ends like when your side tried to use fake photos without context to show that nobody went to Trumps Inauguration when he actually had almost a million come.

Left wing should just realize we are living in a country where BOTH sides can be heard and get a chance at rule, stop trying to make only their issues listened too and be less oppressive overall so we can unite again.

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>>17979430
>If they want violence, we'll give them violence.
Ignoring the fact that right wing death squads are just a meme, historically this does not work out as well as you think it does.

>>17978935
Yep.
And what happens then?
The left here recently tried to start up a "black lives matter" thingy here. Noone came because they have still not imported enough africans for rioting purposes and most africans do not even speak swedish.

Besides that, we have never had a problem with death shootings by cops (but some problem with minority violence against cars, propery, cops and firemen).

Anyways, the leftist just have to try out all the new trendy reasons to fight da
powa.

All you know is that someone is always discriminated or offended.

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>>17979664
You swedes should take some lessons from us Finns on how to deal with leftist scumbags.