My friend who lives in Arkansas is having her and her family abused by the DHS. They want her grandmother to clear out all their stuff minis dresses, cloths, mattresses and food. They want them to even toss her deceased mother's stuff along with other questionable items. Is their anything they can do? Any way I can help? Seriously topic please, I appreciate how 4Chan can be funny and joking but I implore, can we work to have a miracle for them?
gonna need more details, OP - is this the Dept of Homeland Security or the Dept of Human Services?
What is the rationale behind tossing the stuff and who owns the property where the stuff is being stored?
Human Services, and their basicly is no rationality behind it. They at first told my friend's grandmother, who owns everything that both they have in the house and my friend's mother's stuff. So she owns everything and she is the owner of the house as well. It seems so odd and just unlawful too. Even her art supplies they were told to toss out and it make no sense at all.
Local court/local politicians
Write letters, see the staff, make a spectacle of it and the DHS will fuck off
they're hoarders. the home is unfit to live in.
Well, is it a hoarding situation, like the room stuffed full of crap with pathways that a person can just get through on the way to a bathroom where they can just barely sit because of all the stuff crammed in there?
That sort of thing?
They aren't holders, I have seen the place myself. It's rather normal which again, makes all this nonsense extremely odd. The home looks fine, they were called their by an officer after they had called of a robbery that had happened to them when they were away in Louisiana seeing family.
*horders
So, if there's nothing actionable, why not just tell the DHS to fuck right off?
They have, but they keep threatening to send my friend and her brother to foster homes. If it was that easy I wouldn't exactly be asking for advise.
On what grounds are they making that threat?
how do you and this stupid family not know what a lawyer is or does?
They only said the house needed to be cleaned in a week the added the additional rule of removing these other items.
Ummm, we do know what lawyers are but they don't have money for a lawyer. Along with the fact that this has been a trend in Arkansas since 2016 of the DHS doing this. http://m.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2016/10/11/arkansass-foster-care-surge-due-to-questionable-removals-of-kids-dhs-consultant-finds
>>17974108
>They only said the house needed to be cleaned in a week the added the additional rule of removing these other items.
hoarders
>Ummm, we do know what lawyers are but they don't have money for a lawyer.
poor hoarders
>Along with the fact that this has been a trend in Arkansas since 2016 of the DHS doing this. http://m.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2016/10/11/arkansass-foster-care-surge-due-to-questionable-removals-of-kids-dhs-consultant-finds
Arkansas has very high rates of child abuse, it's a good thing that they're stepping up efforts to protect children from abuse and neglect.
>>17973972
if DHS is already that involved in your situation then the only things you can do are
1 - follow their orders, they are the law & you will be put in jail if you keep fucking up
2 - get a lawyer & try to legally disagree
as far as I can tell there is something seriously fucked up going on in that situation, that is the only reason DHS gets involved
DHS does not get involved with little stupid shit
Soooo....if you rented a storage unit to hold all the stuff DHS wants tossed, how large would that unit be?
Store the crap and clean the house, maybe?
>>17973972
DHS only gets involved if they feel children or vulnerable aged are in potential danger.
So you are leaving something out or your friend is. The house is in some way unsafe and unhealthy to a degree that approaches child abuse - dirty, a firetrap, falling down, etc.
If DHS gave them time to clean it up, they should clean it up. What part of that is not obvious?