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25+ Self-Improvement Thread You may have given up on life. But

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25+ Self-Improvement Thread

You may have given up on life. But OP won't give up on you.

2017 is gonna be our year, oldbros
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The last thread got 6 replies. We may have given up on more than life, senpai
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>>17887024
there is no hope
Grow up
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First step of self-improvement is to get off this site. Making this thread and posting here is detrimental.
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I jerk off alot but I have a gf were we have sex on avg 3 times a week. I doesn't screw with my balls, but should I stop jerking off
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>>17887037
>>17887061

I will never give up on myself, or you guys
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>>17887080
Silly you
But still...have a nice xmas anon
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Ain't gonna let it slide
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oh yeah
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>>17887024
<3
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Is it wrong to not want to stop living with my parents? I enjoy their company and, at least outwardly, they seem to enjoy mine. I could see this current arrangement extending indefinitely without issue. Does that make me a man child? Should I care if it does? Am I seeking reassurance on the internet so that I don't have to deal with my life like an adult would?
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Alright I'll contribute. I just letter saying I flunked out of university after 3 semesters. I just turned 21 last month. School never really appealed to me, I only went because I had no other idea what to do with my life other than military and because my parents wanted it. Yet for some reason, I feel like a weight is of my shoulders. I'm scared to tell my parents though. I'm not completely screwed though. I have 2 IT certifications and am working on my 3rd currently. I really like working with computers and want to work in IT, even desktop support. Honestly, I just want to make $15-20/hr full time and play vidya and lift. I have a gf who is pretty supportive as well.
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>>17887062

Yeah this website is pretty toxic
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>>17887811

Do you have a job? Do you help pay the bills? If not then they may think of you as a burden but won't tell you that cause you're their son.
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>>17888226
>not over 25
>nothing about self improvement
>didn't even ask for advice

What was this post for? Don't you have a blog you can post this shit on?
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>29 oldfag reporting in

I have recently been learning Python and Powershell. I try to write a few scripts a day with a real-world purpose. I am a sysadmin so it definitely will be useful.

On a more personal note. I am trying to control my anxiety. Also enjoy the simple things, like banging my latina gf or playing vidya. Trying to make the best choices I can all the time. If I know I should be spending my time in a more productive way, I do it. It's tiring and flexing your will power is like any other muscle.

To all you anons who think they can't fix your situation. I believe you can, and alot of you will. Merry Christmas.
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How could next year get anybetter? Are they going to put the Clintons on trail?
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>>17888226

As someone who works in IT. Start at level1 helpdesk and move up through the ranks. With two certs you should definitely be able to get an interview. Just don't go autismo in the interview. I make almost triple what your looking for in a potential hourly rate. I have zero certs. Fun-fact certs don't mean shit, get some practical experience under your belt.
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going with suicide boys

see you on the other soide
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Anyone else struggling with finding a decent job? I have a college degree and the last good paying job I had was at a call center.
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It's Christmas Eve.
My girlfriend broke up with me over something stupid.
I can feel my depression coming back.
I don't want to live anymore.
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>>17889124
It seemed like it would be a good idea to get the comptia a+, n+, and s+. After that do you honestly need anymore? I like learning this stuff, thought about shooting for ccna down eventually
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>>17889707
Aside from A+ being recognized as "the" entry level cert (like Microsoft's used to be till all the Indians), their other certs are really useless unless HR absolutely mandates them.

If you're going for CCNA, just hit the CCNA material. It's almost exactly the same as the Network+ material, but you'll actually be functional with it. Network+ is a cruel cert because it teaches you vague concepts but gives you no clues into how to practice the skill set so you can actually retain the knowledge.

Vendor specific certs will always be more valuable outside of HR checkbox situations due to you having learned how to use "something", even if it's not the equipment the company you're applying for uses. When you've learned "something", you can easily figure out the parallels and connect them to the knowledge you do have. With Network+ you just kind of learn that something exists, and you'll never see it in practice enough to recognize what you're looking at when there's a problem.

When your job interview gets serious enough where you're talking to the tech people instead of jusr HR, Network+ just isn't going to fly for the questions you're going to be asked.

If you feel like blowing the money, you can always study for CCNA and then skim through the Network+ exam topics on CompTIA's site to brush up on maybe the 3 or 4 things you didn't learn during CCNA (minor wireless details, T568A/B and the different kinds of cable lengths, a couple standard corporate policy things), and you'll pass it with flying colors.
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>>17889134
there's no other side.
you'll have to hang in here if you want to see us.
>>17889527
she's stupid. just eat.
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>>17887062

but 4chan is my best friend :(
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merry christmas yall...i feel like gluing a jar ot rats to my stomach...just walked out of a family gathering and i feel terrible for not telling anyone when i left. I didnt even bother to make an excuse but the thing is I'm not really connected to my family. maybe its because my sibling is a surgeon while ive stayed at home having done nothing for the past year and a half or maybe becuase my entire family knows about my history with drugs because i went into a drug induces psychosis for an entire 3 months...but anyway what should i do? i feel like trash because everyone tries their best to be nice but theyre only doing so because they have no choice so i end up spilling my spaghetti like a retard whenever i get the chance to improve my relationship...
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Do you feel genuinely happier around the holidays? And good about the celebrations or atmosphere? Or do you fake it?

The older I get, the more abnormal the holidays make me feel. I have panic attacks about needing to appear happy around family. I cry in my room between the food and gifts.
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>>17887024
The best self-improvement was Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ is my personal best friend

I know that I am imperfect, but even though I may be alone, I never feel lonely

Read the Bible every day and remember to pray, pray, and pray

I invite you all to join us -- virtually or physically -- in fellowship and worship at IHOP for New Year's

https://www.youtube.com/user/IHOPkc/live
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>>17887024
I graduated during the Great Recession with a bachelor's degree, I managed to find a full-time job and became a FTE with benefits and everything, I am still grateful for that opportunity

My company turned sour over the years and I decided to go back to graduate school, here I met my current girlfriend and began going to church with my girlfriend (I quit going to church after college)

I'm no longer an angsty young man. Most of us feel lost and drifting away, so I buried myself in video games, addicted to online pornography and daily fapping

I was around 24-25 when I was on the brink, I was still a non-believer. Somehow, I got into Bible prophecy and began to get really into the Bible and spiritual matters. It was difficult to break my addiction to online pornography and masturbation, but I no longer do that. Looking back, I'm surprised at how much of a miracle it was, but it did take a lot of faith and action to actualize that

I'm not a perfect man, but every day I try to mirror my walk as closely to Jesus Christ as possible. I fall down a lot, but what matters is that I get up and keep trying
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>>17890529
This is helpful advice, merry chirstmas!
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>>17887024
>2017 is gonna be our year, oldbros
I've been yelling myself this about the next year every year for as long as I can remember now.

It never is.
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>>17890653
how old are you?
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>>17890809
29
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>>17887024
Ayy lmao just turned 32 and after some trip to Thailand I got some weirs symptoms that match Cystic Fibrosis. I kinda want to curl and shitpost here until my doctor dismisses it or confirms it.
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Is it impossible for me to make new friends? I am 26 years old and have no fucking clue how to make friends with people that might be slightly interesting.
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>>17891211
Shouldn't have fucked all those thai ladyboys.
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>>17891233
Yes, it gets harder and harder to make friends as you grow older

This world may fail you, your family may fail you, but Jesus will never fail you. You know in the Bible where Jesus says seek and you shall find? Get in the Spirit and seek God (Jehovah, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit) and you will have the bestest friend in the entire universe that no one can take away
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>>17891211

Patients diagnosed later in childhood or in adulthood are more likely to have pancreatic sufficiency and often present with chronic cough and sputum production. Approximately 10% of patients with cystic fibrosis remain pancreatic sufficient; these patients tend to have a milder course.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1001602-clinical
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At 25, almost 26 years old. How much relationship and sexual experience SHOULD I have?
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>>17889124

How about degrees? been working in IT for like 4 years. Making like $33/hr. I started going to school part-time like 2 years ago, and just recently stopped because it's bankrupting me. Should I go back and finish?
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>26 fag here

Two years ago I started a low carb diet were I over ate and just didn't eat bread or pasta. I was obese and shy. Two years later I lost a lot of weight still chubby, but have great confidence and having casual sex with multiple women I meet off tindr. Try it my fatties I landed a great job making decent enough money, and I am not afraid to talk to women.
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>>17887024

Shit, being 25+ is considered an oldbro now? Fuck.
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>>17891935
Welcome to the club
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28year old here. I've taken my first steps into the new year by finishing up my college and applying again to university.
I've also applied to New, better paying jobs.
I'm tired of the monotony. 40 hours a week working at a grocery store, the same schedule every week.

I'm also going to get into snowboarding and make a better effort to go to the gym. Cuz right now I'm pretty much wasting my money by going only once or twice a week.
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>>17891918
>>17891918
>33 buckaroos

WEW

I bust my ass for 7.25 an hour

I know you said IT, but God damn boys, I need to learn a programming language or something.

>start learning any basic language, get 5 hours in and get discouraged
>quit
>a few months later think "I should learn a programming language"

w e w
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>>17892045

I'm >>17891918

There is other stuff in IT besides programming senpai. Get your foot in the door somewhere and work your way up to sysadmin, or engineer, and make big bux.
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How do I get over feeling bitter all the time? I feel like the world has taken so much from me and it just wants me to roll over and die.

I have become vengeful and obsessive. I dream of people fearing me. I dream of witnessing sweet retribution.

I see now that the world changes people for the worst. Nobody cares until get aggressive.

How is it that the very place we are born into can rot us to the core? I never asked to be dealt pain.
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>>17891948
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>>17887024
Soon to be 27 here, kissless, handheldless virgin. Does anyone else feel like they've done everything everyone advised them to do and still fail at finding a girlfriend? I mean I've done PhD, I work hard, I behave nice to people, but somehow it's never right for any girl. I guess I'm just boring and will ask my parents to arrange me a match who will get bored of me after 5 years at most.
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I'm 32, work for one of the big four tech companies as a dev, just was promoted a few months ago. Pressure at work's starting to get to me, but it's not too bad.

However it's my life outside of work that's a complete trainwreck. I basically never leave my apartment except for work or food. Extremely shy.
Tried going to church yesterday, as it was Christmas and all, but got very anxious while driving up (someone might recognize me, there's no space available, they might have already started, etc. etc.) and had to turn around.
Haven't really had friends since college, don't know anyone in this city, and stopped posting regularly on the internet (4chan included) since eight years, so very little human contact.

Ever since I was a kid, I've kept telling myself, this is the year everything turns around. Still holding out hope.
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>>17892214
We are all going to make it!
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>>17890653
I have felt like this during times of crisis in my life. These days it's better, and comforting to be with my family and be in the home I grew up in, feeling bolstered by childhood memories.

But other times it's been shit because I was worried about something or my life was falling apart in some way. It was really hard to face my happy family because they seemed so innocent. I'm happy to say it got better, but I had to get through the hard times first.
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>>17892214
hey man, you seem like a responsible, smart guy. you should start small. try watching things about how great it is to have friends. it'll make you determined.

then, just say 'good morning' to people you see. that's all. don't think about anything except doing that first step. church is an amazing step too towards meeting people.

if it makes you feel better, i used to be a full sperglord, obsessed with vidya and anime and very sexually frustrated. it's about doing little things and normalizing your fears. the key isn't to do something right, the key is to be comfortable.
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All together now:

J U S T
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>>17887064
stop jerking it wtf
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>>17892045
>I bust my ass for 7.25 an hour
>I know you said IT, but God damn boys, I need to learn a programming language or something.
I work IT and only make $16/hr. How do you think I feel? (Admittedly, the benefits are great…but I can't rent my own place by paying with benefits, so I'm stuck living with my parents.)
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recently started going back to school, in hopes of getting a degree. not sure what major to go for. have always been good in english, though i feel its kind of a dead end career path.

anyone have any recommendations for a clueless 28 year old.
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2017 will only be the year everything changes if you make the changes happen, it wont happen on its own.
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>>17891550
Answering a question like this which I will admit is a stupid question to begin with will only cause misery.

This question is stupid because it presupposes that a question like this can
>actually be answered
>doesn't take into account region/circumstances
>comparing your situation to others instead of just living your life

You will continue to be miserable so long as you continue to think you have to reach particular milestones when everyone else does.
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>>17889134
https://www.openbible.info/topics/suicide
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I'm turning straight up hikki and I feel ashamed. No car, job(I do have experience), no will power to go on. I want to do better and go to school. But what I want to learn could easily but learned online. Anyone have experience in getting the job they wanted without going to school for it?
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>>17892617

I ask because it seems like it DOES matter to girls if the guys she might date has experience or not..
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>>17892670
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
If you're looking for the type of girl who cares about how much experience you have, you're better off being alone - for your own sake.
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>>17892688

But isn't that something all girls care about?

But, regardless.. you're probably right. Maybe I should just stay alone.. I'm already too inexperienced for my age anyways..
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>>17892693
There is a type of girl who cares about how much experience you have.

Stay away from them.

Don't think I meant you shouldn't bother, what I meant to say is that it's better to be alone than with a woman who will only cause you even more misery.
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>>17892708

Oh... :/

I know you're probably right, it just sucks being lonely all the time. But maybe it would be worse if I had a girlfriend. Shit.
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3 things that have changed my life the most-

1. Gym subscription & regular fitness.
>Made me look a lot better. I regularly get compliments and looks from girls now
>Made me feel consistently energetic throughout the day
>Taught me discipline and commitment

2. Meditation
>Teaches me why I react badly or act like a dick
>Teaches me why and how my emotions work and influence my actions
>Centres me and allows me to focus more and improve discipline in any area

3. Diet
>Same as fitness, plus it helps with energy throughout the day

They're all cliche as fuck because they've been around as long as mankind and have been working all that time, but they're the basis for ANY good, healthy & strong person.

In short, if you don't work out at least 4 hours per week, don't meditate regularly and don't have a healthy diet you shouldn't be trying anything else UNTIL you fix them.
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>>17892723

Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.

- Proverbs 21:9
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It's not that I gave up or that I can't fix it, the problem is why should I fix it and which direction should I go. Why should I self-improve? I can spend time on unproductive things that make me feel good and rest of time on work. Or I can spend it all on work so I can be richer or better for some reason I can't seem to buy. More need is more greed, and that means sad, unsatisfied life of a desperate pursuer.
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>>17892214

What are the big 4?
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>>17892399
What do you do in IT though?
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>>17892744
But is wasting all that time really fulfilling? Do you really feel good when you look back at your day and say "yup I wasted a bunch of time today"?
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Has anyone here seen or run into someone you had class with from high school? How different are they now?

I've noticed that a lot of the kids I graduated with ended up gaining a shit ton of weight. A lot of them are also done with their degree and some of them are now getting married.

I'm still pretty thin, but I'm not done with my degree or getting married. I still haven't had a gf yet.

Fucking sucks man
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>>17892214
>Ever since I was a kid, I've kept telling myself, this is the year everything turns around. Still holding out hope.

You got money and a career path, so it's not all bad.

At least they don't give you a warning for being sick. Not only do I get no sick pay till I get a doctor's note, they mark every time you've been absent. Which would've been fine, if they didn't work out your absence percentage from your contract days. Meaning if I get sick for 2 days means I need to go to an attendance review meeting and explain why I took so many days off.
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>>17892966
A few

Two became successful boxers and since I work out and strength train it was nice to catch up and see they'd become human beings instead of childish dicks

It's always nice to see when people from a shitty environment (school) change for the better

As for weight, most of them weigh less or the same amount.
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I've been taking a lot of advice from here and /biz/ on how to improve my resume. I want to leave my shit job and work maybe in a office for a entry lvl position. I've asked my college career center for help, but they're not that great.

So just by looking at my resume, would you hire me for a entry lvl position?


If not then please explain why
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>>17892734
I don't know if you're the same Anon who's posted their testimony earlier ITT but regardless, your posts are really on point, sober and encouraging. Just wanted to say that.
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>>17892995
Are you still a student? How old are you? Are you looking for full-time or part-time?

Also 'inbound' not 'inbounded' unless that's a weird American spelling.
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>>17893243
Yeah I'm a 23 year old student and I've been thinking about taking a break from school. If I do for the break then I will try and look for a full-time job.
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>>17893256
In that case yeah I think it's ok.

For full-time positions I think you'll have to convince them that you won't leave to finish your studies.

Only other thing I'd add is to reorder your experience based on the job you're applying for. e.g. if a sales role move 'upsold additional items...' higher.
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>>17892867
Hardly anything IT related. I work at a school and help students. I'm a teacher all but in name. When there actually is a problem to resolve where you can exercise your IT knowledge, you can only do the first few steps of troubleshooting, because the techs have the computers frozen and locked down. I try to keep my skills sharp by helping people out on fora, but my knowledge had clearly atrophied…and it took me A+ and N+ just to get this job! There is no hope of advancement. I have S+ now, so I should be slightly more employable to others, since most IT jobs list A+ and N+ under their "preferred" requirements. But yeah, certs don't mean you know shit. They're just a money pit.
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>>17893270
Cool

Thanks man!
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>>17893272
is there any training scheme which isn't a money pit? my friend did a 4 year degree and knows nothing and has a lifetime of debt to show for it.
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>>17887024
>tfw 24

W--what happens at 25?
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Earlier today it struck me that I haven't been in a real relationship for over 6 years. I really miss the companionship most. Just having someone to talk to and do things with. There's nothing I can do about it since I'm not really "relationship material" right now, but sometimes the loneliness gets to me.

>>17887024
>2017 is gonna be our year
I sure hope so.
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>>17892966
>Has anyone here seen or run into someone you had class with from secondary school?

SO many of them. And most of them are in expensive suits going to city-type jobs, upwards of £30+K. And every time I meet them, I'm in my supermarket uniform.

There were a lot more that flopped but I never bump into them cos they've been forced out the area by rising costs of gentrification
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>>17892434
This

But I've been brainwashed ever since I was a kid that I would be rewarded in life with good things and circumstances Judy because I was a target of bullying, ridicule, embarrassment, and undesired by the opposite sex.

I know that's not fucking true now…but in the back of my head, I still feel like the world owes me. How do I get rid of those thoughts permanently?
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>gf of 6 years broke up with me a few months ago
>found out critical error making all the work on my PhD in the last few months worthless
>friends too busy to even talk to me, slowly losing them
>parents moved away, I don't see them much and don't even have a place to sleep in their new apartment
>can't get any motivation to workout, groom or eat healthy, waste half my free time jacking off
>stay awake till 4 AM every day just staring and wasting my time while missing deadlines at work
>developed a strange cough about 3 years ago that simply won't stop

I have a feeling 2017 is only going to be downhill, but thanks for the optimism
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Is there some kind of goal-setting page that some over 25 anons can get on, share some goals and keep each other accountable?
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I've had a very difficult time throughout my entire life. I was regularly bullied and given the typical treatment for being a nerd in my childhood and the same as a young adult.

I dropped out of university when I was 20, and spent three years being a NEET with horrible depression, sabotaging every interpersonal relationship I had with friends and family included.

I'm 25 now and I am one year into a degree programme on the other side of the country at a prestigious university, I have my physical health and appearance to a point where I can pass without being seen as a nerdy loser, and my performance in school has identified me as a high achiever amongst my professors.

My family however do not believe in any form of depression or social anxiety and think that education is a complete waste of time and for people who do not want to work and earn a living wage. I'm considered a liar, lazy and to have a superiority complex by my family, and considered to be an overtly conscientious and hard working individual by the people I only see because of my work with no middleground.
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>>17893376
Maybe those rewards were already out there but you didn't reach out to grab them. For a lot of people they're given opportunities to make their own lives and others better but they choose not to take them for whatever reason. Everyone has a point where they think the world owes them anonbro but in reality you gotta throw yourself out there to claim the prize. Hope things work out for you and wish the best
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25 years old here. Not virgin


Don't ever do anything for a girl. Don't ever make plans in your life around a girl. Do what works for you. Then make sure that her shit fits around yours. Anything less is beta, and you're going to regret it.
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>>17893459
A good place to start for a middle ground would be looking for a club involving something you're interested in. It's usually a once a week thing where you can just talk/hangout with people who do stuff you like.
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>>17892214
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It is ever possible to stop regretting about wasted years?
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>>17893591
wonder about this too
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>get a girlfriend after a long drought
>she seems super into me
>wow this is awesome she really likes me
>decide to break it off because while it's really fun short term, I knew long-term it wouldn't work
>back to reading manga and watching anime

My friends are getting married, having kids and 30's looming too. Sucks.
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>>17893591

What do you considered wasted years?
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>>17893591

just try to take it day by day anon

the regret will never go away, but you can lessen the weight and occurrences it pops in your mind

t. someone who knows that feel
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>>17893677

I've never had a girlfriend before, but just very recently. I met this really awesome girl. She was practically throwing herself at me for weeks. I ever did anything. Then one day, she said she would like to be my girlfriend. I liked her a lot, but I knew things wouldn't last that long. So I pushed her away.
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>>17893685
It's really hard to do that and it's even worse when you know it'd be an easy way to get your dick wet.

I just thought to myself how terrible it'd be if she got got pregnant and that was enough for me to think it'd be better to cut it off than continue.
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>>17893727

I just figured it would be best to avoid having a girlfriend instead of doing it and waiting for a eventual break up
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>>17893679
What I see for now that I fell behind my peers, who definitely much more superior intellectually, achieved much and now they reap what they sown.
I wasted my time fucking around, I didn't socialize much, didn't prepare myself to be drown in adult world. At my adolescence I refused to look at world in its real state, worn pink glasses or how you call it. Now I am devastated with all that competition here and there, I mean, I expected that AND I was expected to get the best of it. I couldn't. People want to live, they seek better opportunities everywhere, they do that for sake of themselves, or for offsprings of theirs.
What really eats me inside that I had all the possibilities, yet I still disregarded it, despite constant warnings. I never drink but I want to never wake up every single night.

>>17893685
I had that, too. Very supportive. I gave no fucks, and I don't give any now. If I can't give enough fucks for even myself, why would I involve another person to that?
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>>17889525
Generally speaking, if you don't have a job offer before graduation then you've wasted your time at college.
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>>17893591
Well no
You can suppress it and it will still manifest in other ways and other areas
Plus it will blow up in your face every now and then
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>>17893847

See for me, I'm accomplishing things in my life. I have a few friends, including a few female friends. But I can not handle a relationship or sex. I actively avoid both of those things
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>>17891251
Not sure whether I have cystic fibrosis or not. Many of the symptoms are there, but it could be my ashtma plus chronic pharingitis plus something that makes me shit mucus. I am not losing weight and I eat well, though shit constantly changes color and sometimes it smells really bad. Like not just your average bad.
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>>17893503
Twat
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I don't know what to do next for myself. I'm going to the gym, I'm rising up the corporate ladder, I'm doing art classes.

What else am I supposed to do?
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>>17893961

I feel exactly the same.

I'm starting to get /fit/, I'm making good money, on a path toward my dream career.

What else am I suppose to do? I don't feel "happy". But I am content with what I have going for me at the moment.
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So I'm at a crossroads.
I'm 26, 5 months ago I moved from my ruralish (80k pop) city to a bigger metro area but my job search there has been fruitless.

I was thinking about going back to my hometown where I'd likely get a better paying job in my field and enter graduate school.

That or I can stay in the "prestigious" metro area where there are more jobs/people, but my career future would be uncertain.

I'm leaning toward hometown but I could use a second opinion
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>>17894004

Go wherever you feel the most confident
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>>17893853
This isn't true at all. Stop stinking up the thread.
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>>17894004
Can you do graduate school if you stay in Metro city?
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I don't expect any help I'm just venting.

I'll be 25 next month, and I'm miserable and I have nothing and I'm sooooo fucking upset with myself right now.

In April I came back to live with my mom after losing my job, and didn't find a new one until July/August time I can't remember exactly. I'm TRYING to get back on track, I made a savings plan to have me save up $500 over December. Actually I only saved $200 and just spent it all on a computer - I needed one, old one broke, but damn. Home since April and zero dollars to my fucking name, I'm so ashamed.

All I have ideas without any skills or follow through. I want to go to college abroad, I want to work on a oil rig in the middle east, I want to move to Alaska - I also want to just immediately settle and get married and have kids.

I think the best thing for me to do would be start giving my money to mom to hold (since otherwise I'm just going to spend it on beer and weed) while I apply for and get rejected for my unrealistic dreams - no education and no skills, I'm not going to theological school and I'm not religious enough anyway, and I'm not working on a rig in Qatar but I can say I tried. Get a second job and a one room apartment and I guess try to have an arranged marriage.

I desperately want to be a dad I'm just worried I'll settle for a girl it won't work out with out of desperation. Plenty of south asians in this town it's just the struggle of finding one religious enough to be a virgin but liberal enough to tolerate me playing death metal. Which is ridiculous.
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What is considered "good money"?

Should the question mark in the sentence above be inside the quotations, "like this?"

I got a degree in Biology and do lab work for $19.25/hour. I want to make more money but I'm not sure where to go from here.
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>>17892973
Wow, that fucking sucks. I'd be screwed if I were you, cause I find I need a mental health day about once every other month.
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>>17894101
Where are you even from?

Go to trade school? Be an electrician, welder, etc.

Even be a truck driver or garbage man. Work construction. Those jobs pay well and don't require much skill or education
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>>17894108

Good money is considered if you're able to comfortably provide for yourself.
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I'm just here to vent, don't need a reply.

Im bored, hateful, and I don't like the world I live in. People are ungrateful, they live their lives stupidly, they waste their potential. And I know it's not their fault, there's a giant advertising machine behind it all brainwashing them with media and commercials. I wish I could teach them better, but my 30+ years on this Earth have taught me that you can't help anyone who isn't ready to help themselves.

Nobody at work understands how I could be excited to cook over the weekend, or work on my garden, or study Japanese, or read a book, or just sit at the window listening to music and watching the grass acres roll with the wind in my backyard. So I end up alienated from my co-workers, and now in conversation my weekends are filled with "not doing much."

Aside from my little home activities, I am just constantly bored. I don't really know why, even novel experiences don't garner much enthusiasm in me. I feel as if I've seen and done everything, though I know that I definitely haven't. Same thing with people, I've feel as if I've met every single personality "archetype" and so most people end up being incredibly boring to meet. Rarely I'll meet someone completely unique, but oftentimes it's someone much older with vast life experience.

Fuck it, I'm going to have a drink and get back to my books.
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>>17893311
Oh I had debt too. This job allowed me to make high enough payments to pay off my loans in about 2 years. I only had about the average amount of debt though…which was enough to financially cripple me for nearly a decade.

>>17893404
>developed a strange cough about 3 years ago that simply won't stop
Have you gotten that checked out? Cause you really should. 3 years is a long time.

>>17894108
>Should the question mark in the sentence above be inside the quotations, "like this?"
Yes, it should. Punctuation always goes inside quotes.
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>>17894117
I'm from a college town in Illinois. I also toss around the idea of getting into something medical that only needs a few years of school (nursing, taking xrays, drawing blood) but I just don't know if I have it in me to go to school AND work full time. I know a lot of people do it but I've fucked up everything else in life so far from laziness.

I don't really want to live out my whole life in this town but multiple years away in other states always ends with me coming back with no money, having wasted those years making no friends and being lonely. So I don't know. It's almost 2017, I'm almost 25, and I've got like $30 in the bank and don't make enough to live on my own. It's 100% my own fucking fault and I just don't know what to do. I feel like the most realistic option is just find a second job and stay in town but that sounds like a long shitty life.

And I'm fucking tired of being single and want an ass to spank.
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What do you guys look for on dating sites?

Have you noticed any interesting trends?
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i had severe chronic fatigue for about 8 years and i'm functionally mentally ill from the experience: a combination of ptsd and severe dopamine depletion from years of forced bedrest.

i wish i'd actually done something to fuck up my life but i haven't.
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>>17893503
Thread
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>>17893491
Oh, you think we live in a just world that treats everyone equally. That's not how things work, that's part of what I was talking about.
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>>17887024
I don't know man.

>got gf whom I love
>sex is pretty good even after 4 years
>finally about to get stem degree after wasting 20s slacking off
>already got plans to work abroad and travel as I always dreamed

Yet I still feel emptier with every passing year. I look at older people and they seem generally fairly miserable. Friends my age also seem to be getting 'downer', every now and then I find out about another one having been dealing with anxiety, depression or other psychological issues.

I'm afraid life might just be a slow steady decline and then you die.
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>>17893503
That's not really fair to her, is it? You acknowledge that one-sidedness sucks (for you), but you try to force it on her.
In a good relationship, it's about compromise, finding a solution that works for both of you. Which usually involves, in the long run, both partners making occasional sacrifices.
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>>17894565

I'm not him, I've had sex once before when I was 19. But I'm really thinking about completely giving up on girls forever. I'm starting to think that maybe it is just best to be alone.
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im not a real man and i will never be taken seriously by anymore

just kill me
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>>17894579

What do you mean
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>>17887024
Avoid useless chinks at all cost.
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>>17894565
I think that advice is aimed at anons rather than regular people.

It's still pretty negative advice but I understand where it's coming from. I mean a lot of anons would settle with someone terrible for them.
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>>17894239
>Have you noticed any interesting trends?
A lack of responses.
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>>17887024
I need to get over my ex, and all the depression, anxiety, panic attacks, personality change that came with it
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>>17892213
girls will rarely hint that they're attracted to you, you have to just ask and see if they feel the same way

once they agree to a date, that's when they start seeing if you've hit the required check boxes and as far as a i can tell you have
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>>17893315
same shit different day
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I basically shit talked & lied myself into a job I don't really have the qualifications for; welp- we'll see what it gives on monday. Atleast I got off the couch, right?
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>24
>just earned my bachelors in IT
>amazing job, working in a very prospective field
>great money
>company is still in its infancy, so great chance of keeping my job for a long while
>court date soon to score some cash from greedy jews
>parents selling houses in another country for extra cash
>no student debt, no loans, nothing owed
>work out regularly, never had a single real health problem
>no gf

All the time I've spent in college was with a huge focus on myself. I've dug myself pretty deep, didn't make any friends at the gym, didn't make any friends among peers - though the ones I did meet were extremely childish and I could not bear to regress myself by sharing their wasteful hobbies. I've become arrogant and socially inefficient, in lieu of attaining physical and intellectual aptitude, at least in my view.

I actually want to find a girl like me, so I can maintain my routine and not have to change. A selfish, arrogant one just as obsessed about self-improvement as I am. Problem is - 1) I live in a city region and these types tend to favor country. 2) I have weak social networks

what do? It's been over 3 years since my last relationship. I feel like I'll die alone if I don't score at least one date the first week of 2017
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>>17893404
Extend your phd program and fix critical error. The same thing happened to me but at the masters level.
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>>17887024
I feel all my problems can be solved by me simply losing weight. Getting a personal trainer in January. Thoughts? Need to lose weight so i can join the military.
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I finally accepted my true nature as a lazy bum and became homeless. No longer having any shame has really been quite freeing.
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>>17895807

How are you on 4chan
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>>17895777
You do not want a girl just like you.
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>>17895830

Why
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>>17887062
I apologize if I am speaking for everyone.

I think part of the issue is that most of us don't have the support IRL so we retreat here because its the only place that will, in a way, accept us. You can tell us to get good at socializing, but not everyone can be. Some people are just not the type that other people can be receptive too. I could tell you myself, I will always come back after a few months because its the only place where I can go. Its a vicious cycle but if we can just stay focus on trying to fix our shitty lives, stay productive and positive, then we have a high chance of breaking the cycle and fucking off for the moment. That is, until we get bored or end up at square one again. Easier said than done.

So then, this thread should focus on helping ourselves to leave and never return no matter what.
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>>17895807
I think this is part where you die of starvation
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>>17895837
Look at everything you just wrote in relation to yourself and to what you want from this girl. The girl you are asking for will have a strong personality, Will challenge and fight for dominance in the relationship and be quick to cater to her own needs instead of yours, as you will also be due to your independent backgrounds. A power couple the likes of which you want requires impeccable communication, compromise and forgiveness as you both will be entering into a relationship, not a business agreement. Are you mentally prepared to handle someone like that? For the rest of your life if you intend to marry?
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>>17895860

Oh, I wasn't the guy you replied to.. should have clairifed that.

I was just wondering why someone wouldn't want a girl with common interest
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>>17895864
No worries. There is a difference between common interest and common traits. Certain people can match well to those who's personalities match their own, but more often than not in relationships there needs to be a good degree of difference to offset each other's eccentricities. In theory it's nice to want someone just like you, but in practice isn't very realistic. The guy in question for example says he wants a girl just like him, but in reality he would probably not get along with due to the fact that in this girl would be reflected everything he is and oftentimes we overlook our own faults and negative habits to preserve our self worth. Someone just like you would show you the ugly side of yourself and only if you are prepared to handle that should you want it.
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>>17895881

That makes sense I guess
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>>17895881
That happens anyway though. Finding reflections of yourself isn't something isolated to romantic partners. If you don't find it in your partner, it'll show up in your colleagues, friends, family members, tutors, postman, etc. The question is how other people help you become a better person, and whether you want you SO to be your biggest challenge. Not all people like everything about their partners, but that doesn't mean they're not important.

Accept the fault in others, and you'll free yourself from your own as well.
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Anybody feel like this?

I've never had a girlfriend before, and I honestly don't think I ever will. I'm a very observant person, and I've watched how many people are within their relationships. This might sound trivial to most of you, but I literally can not imagine a girl wanting to call me "hers", or a guy wanted to be close as possible to me and holding hands, or a girl wanting to kiss me. I literally can't imagine that, to the point that if a girl did that to me, I'd feel incredibly awkward.

Just curious if anyone else understands what I mean.
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>>17895982

*or a girl wanting to be as close as...
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28yrfag here

I've hit a snag in my new year plans and realized I've missed the deadline for SU registrations. So I've lost a semester already.

I guess I can go back to CC in the meantime and work on a second Associates. I just don't want to sit around and waste my time anymore.
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>>17896019

Do CC and work. That way it won't be wasted time
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>>17896064
Thanks anon.
I've actually been at my current job for 5 years now, but I'm not going anywhere with it. I've applied to higher paying jobs though, so hopefully one of them comes through.
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>>17896073

What field are you in?
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>>17895982
I've been there. You've been a virgin so long you can't even see yourself in the situation.
I wish I had better advice but "fake it til you make it", and go for a younger girl that would be more accepting of mild autism in that situation. I lost my virginity to an 18 year old when I was 26, and it made me feel more at ease because she had only been with her high school boyfriend. I hadn't jerked off for 2 weeks before hanging out with her so I kind of had that going to force me to make a move, but I felt really weird when I started making out because I had never kissed a girl before, but after a minute or two you kind of get into it/used to it. Good luck bro.
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>>17896081
I have an AA in English, wanting to go into the Education field. I need a BA to be taken seriously though, as well as credentials, so losing a semester bummed me out.

Going back to CC though, I'm thinking of Journalism as a second major, or maybe something related in business or technology to fall back on, since those fields will always be relevant.

As for work, I've been at a grocery store for 5 years now. But I want more money to get my own place, even if it's a shitty studio. So I've applied to other places, including Airlines since I have friends with connections there.
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>>17895840
i'm tired of trying to fix my life alone
i really need someone to acknowledge my existence so it will feel less empty
can't make irl friends, no idea where to find online ones either...
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>>17896110

I'm not a virgin. I had sex once when I was 20 with some unattractive slut off Facebook (it sucked). And when I was 22 I hooked up with a girl from Tinder and all that happened is we made out for a bit and she gave me a really underwhelming blow job. I didn't cum and it was awkward. She even accused me of being a virgin. After like 2 minutes of making out she stopped me and said "w-wait.. are you a virgin??" I told her the truth and said no. She said " I think you're lying, which sucks because I don't have sex with virgins.." so she then undid my pants and started the shitty bj...

Both of those experiences were bad. And honestly it almost seems as if they didn't happen
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>>17892213
Don't despair anon. I was like you until I was 28-29, now I've had sex with 4 girls (lived with one too) and currently enjoying the benefits of a friend while being single. Things can change.
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Bumpity bump
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Hi.
these days I've been losing my interest in computers, particularly in programming. The little interest that I keep is wanting to change everything because it all sucks.
Yesterday I had a little chat with a friend who is as autismo as me. She suggested going to uni. I'd given up on that because how old I am, but she convinced me that it may be a good idea.
So, I guess I have some new year's resolutions in my hands (who'd say). At the peril of speaking too soon I'll list them here
- Get my GED once and for all
- Study the basics of the career I want to pursue by myself
- By August I should be able to apply to uni.
I also intend to keep the plan of learning about computer networks because it might just land me a job for when I go to the city to study.
In the mean I also think I'll go to a couple greenhouses nearby and apply for a job, see how it goes...
Sounds like too much, and I have trouble keeping my goals, but I guess this is a somewhat good (and worthwhile) plan to pursue. I'll try and keep my focus and hopefully follow through.
If anything, perhaps I'll priorize the GED + Uni thread.
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>>17895982
>>17895985
Yeah, but on a slightly broader scale. I mean, I don't understand what people actually DO, like I've listened in to other people's conversations and I can make out individual words and phrases but the conversation as a whole is foreign to me.

Mainly cos my frame of reference is just restricted to vidya and how much the world sucks today. The fact that gaming is popular right is disguising how little I've experienced anything and have anything to say.

Man, the lack of any sexual experience is really starting to gnaw at me.
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>>17897803

This is me too>>17896185

My few experiences were very underwhelming
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Here goes. Im 33, have a well paying steady job, have some weight on me, but am above average in height and lift weights every day. My circle of friends is small and mostly married/long term relstionships. My job is male oriented.

How do i meet women? Ive been doing online dating in my city (east coast canada) to limited success. Im not a sports person. And going to bars to listen to shitty dance music does not appeal.

Anon, my morale is broken.
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>>17897886

>job is male oriented
>online dating blows
>fuck bars and clubs

I know that exact feeling. Now, I have not personally tried this yet. But a co-worker told me this yesterday.. my co-worked took a culinary class. Not how to be a chef. But he found a culinary school that does individual classes for simple foods. He went to a "single night" course and had a great time. They were taught how to make good desserts. And he said the majority of the students were female. And a lot of QTs. The class was designed so the students could easily mingle together. So not only did he learn how to make good brownies and cookies. He also got a QTs number
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>>17897897

Thats a solid suggestion. I have hobbies, its just that its nerd shit and mostly guys (wargaming). It might be something to consider.
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>>17897921

Yeah, I think It in the future. I'm moving soon so there is no reason to meet girls here. But maybe when I move all do it.

I like the culinary class as a option because regardless it's not a waste. Worst case scenario is you don't get any girls number, but you still learn how to cook some good food.
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I just turned 30. I figure now's the time to get my shit together and actually build a life, instead of constant job hopping

Looking back, my 20s were just a "second adolescence". Mostly wasted time, being lazy and unmotivated. Only really cared for having fun and avoiding discomfort, with no care towards progress or health.

Will be monitoring thread for relevant advice
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>>17894565
I think what>>17893503 meant was don't do anything stupid for a girl, such as quit your job to go on a road trip with her or go to the same school cause you're a couple, things like that. Of course relationships require compromise. Make sure they don't think the answer to that is "theirs" or "yours."
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>>17895982
Yeah, I prey much feel like this…even after being proven wrong by being in a relationship. But it feels like she was just an exception, and I really am undesirable to any other attractive woman.

>>17897897
Does your coworker love in or near a city? Because I've looked for cooking classes and there's hardly anything near me. I want to improve mutt culinary ability though, don't expect to meet anyone through it.
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Not much to say.
Hate my company but like my job.
I fight a lot with my wife but we love each other.
My kid can be annoying but also incredibly cute.
A good old friend reached me out for Christmas.
And all problems I mentioned should be resolved in 2017.

Life is hard but rewarding.
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>>17892045
>I bust my ass for 7.25 an hour
I feel you bro. 70h/week at a barely higher rate (7,7). While accommodations, electricity and food (somehow) are paid by the company, I still want out.
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>>17892863
As stupid as it sounds since Donald Trump made it a meme: MAGA:
Microsoft
Apple
Google
Amazon
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>>17896185
>>17896185
>And honestly it almost seems as if they didn't happen
I know that feeling. I was in a relationship for years, but it's been so long that it seems like it never happened. You wouldn't know I'm not some inexperienced virgin from meeting me. I guess I didn't learn much from the experience.

Now I've been out of the game so long and my self-esteem is so far gone I can't even picture myself in a relationship. The idea of a girl being interested is completely unfathomable to me. People tell me, they see girls flirting with me, but I never see it. Maybe I just can't recognize it since it doesn't make sense to me that it could happen.
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OP here

Thread still going? I'm proud of you guys

2017, man! I'm tellin' ya!
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>25
>26 in feb
>324 lbs
>don't wanna join a gym again until the new year hype is over
>watching diet but struggling
>cant stop thinking about fucking my friends wife

2017 might be my year but idk I stopped hoping/trying awhie ago
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>>17898810

>Now I've been out of the game so long and my self-esteem is so far gone I can't even picture myself in a relationship. The idea of a girl being interested is completely unfathomable to me. People tell me, they see girls flirting with me, but I never see it. Maybe I just can't recognize it since it doesn't make sense to me that it could happen

I feel the exact same way. My few close female friends always say "go meet a nice girl, you deserve a good girlfriend :) " but I don't see it.
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Just turned 25. Always wanted to post on these threads.
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>>17898925

Happy Birthday
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>>17898930
Thanks
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>>17892424
You can do it, just remember it's a process. I know you feel old but you haven't even lived yet. This decision is your first step toward a bright and successful life, so go all in with it. If you feeling want it, life will find a way for you.
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2017 should be a good year.
Honestly, I often feel at odds with most people in imageboards. Too many people talking about killing themselves, about isolation, about how this year has been the worst so far. Sometimes I feel I don't belong here, and perhaps I don't. But I like these places because I like the anonimity, and I am very casual in my internet usage. Perhaps also because I like to blog like I do here without being accountable for it (ie, having it tied to an identity), just like I am doing now.

Anyway, 2016 was good for me, good enough. I struggle all the time, in one way or another, but I try to enjoy life, and I am overall happy, and looking forward to the challenges that come.

It is so weird to say this in an imageboard, it feels as if I were going to get a shitstorm for this. Perhaps these places have hindered my development without me realizing. On the other hand I am alone and have nobody to talk to, only these random strangers on the internet, who I somehow feel like are my close friends, for I can dump all this and perhaps be sure that someone's going to read it maybe, or that I'm holding a casual conversation and it's as ephimeral as any such conversation.
What the fuck why am I talking like this today?
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I feel really frustrated

My sex drive is through the fucking roof since I started working out 2 weeks ago. I don't believe in random sex, I'm not in the position for a girlfriend, and I quit fapping because I used to be addicted to it and it was causing me a lot of troubles


FUCK
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>>17896153
we are your friends anon
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I gave up on ever meeting someone
Now I can pursue my dream of full time RV living while telecommuting

If I have to be alone I can at least do what I feel like. After I finish school and get a real job of course.
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>>17898810
>>17898897

>Now I've been out of the game so long and my self-esteem is so far gone I can't even picture myself in a relationship. The idea of a girl being interested is completely unfathomable to me
This is me, except now one even lies to me and says women are flirting with me. And really, can I blame them? I'm a fat loser who works at walmart and is still in college at 25.

It's like I am on a completely different level than the people I interact with
>just find a girl
>it's not hard to get dates anon come on
Through my entire life, all my friends, literally all the people I've spent significant amounts of time hanging out with have never gone more than a few months being single since they were teenagers. I don't understand it. Makes me feel like I am extremely damaged and exude this aura of repulsivity.
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>off for two weeks
>realise that I don't know what I'm doing and that I need work to give me meaning even if I'm hating it at the moment

Sucks.
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>>17899520
Yeah, that happened to me. An occasional fap to let the steam off really helps. I was addicted too but if you haven't done it for a while, it's probably fine.
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31. I'm just abnormal. I never know what to say to people. No matter what situation I put myself in it's always the same shit... don't talk to anyone I don't know, hide if possible. Cousin called around to drop off something for my parents a few days ago and I couldn't even handle that "how're things with you and the kids" simplest situation in the world without ending up looking like some autistic fuck.
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I just got fired. 2017 is already looking good.
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>>17899941
go shoot up your old work
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>>17899941
What job and why?
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>>17899921

I'm just worried, because I don't want to Fap and get addicted again
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>>17899963
I didn't. I got over the need to do it daily and I also don't want to do it too often to keep testosterone levels higher.

Wish I hadn't done it today since gym's tomorrow but damn, that was one hell of a video.
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>>17899948
A shitty office job. I exploded on another employee when he threw a pen at me while I was answering a phone call. Pretty childish, but I'm happy I don't work there anymore. I just wish that I knew what to do now.
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>>17899971
They fired you over that? Wow. Fuck that place.
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>>17899971
>I just wish that I knew what to do now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9cFtoRZXq0
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>>17899977
I pushed the employee, so yes it was reasonable to fire me. Actually technically I was asked to resign, not fired.
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>>17899968
That's the thing too, since I'm going to the gym now, I don't want to cum because I want to save that T so I can get in better shape faster
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>>17899989
It doesn't just keep going up and up and if you don't let ever let it release, you're just going to end up frustrated.
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op can't we make a thread discord or something
anyone would be interested in it?

>>17899823
you need to reevaluate the meaning of friendship
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If you have self esteem issues or self conscious about your appearance, get /fit/.

By no means am I saying that getting /fit/ will cure your depression, anxiety and mood completely but it will put a dent (a pretty big one) in these.

If you're a NEET, you probably cant afford a gym membership. In that event, get weights and work out for an hour everyday.

When you get /fit/ you literally feel better about yourself because you're taking care of yourself, what you eat, sleeping to rest muscles and everything.

Getting /fit/ requires that you take care of yourself, something I and I'm sure many people here rarely do.

t. been lifting for 6 months
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>>17899927
it takes practice, don't feel that bad when conversations get awkward. try to build mileage with talking to people till it comes more natural to you
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I'm 5'3" and not growing anymore. Asked out 100+ women over the course of 6 years, 70% mentioned my height. I've been lifting weights for years, and I'm pretty healthy and decently dressed. Also 29 years old with a $44/hr job.


How can I just stop trying? My dumb monkey brain keeps yearning for a partner, but I just want to look after myself, at this point.
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>>17900165
You sound desperate.
9 times out of 10 you look desperate too and women can spot a desperate guy from a mile away.

When women notice a guy, it's not because they're desperate and thirsty, looking for a mate...they notice a guy often times when he's busy, working, making a difference, occupied.

You need to man up bruh.
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>>17900165
don't bulk, stay as skinny as possible. short dudes look retarded when they bulk but can pull it off if they stay skeleton mode
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>>17900171
this is a meme

I'm 6'1" and the clingliest faggot you've ever met I still get girls asking me out

>>17900165
Just keep trying, I guess

>>17900177
Also this
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>>17900197
clingy =/= desperate though.

What are you talking about?
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>>17895788
I don't really have any other choice, but it's still a huge bummer. Already a 10 year MD-PhD program, and I really don't feel like doing 11 or 12 (especially since I have residency afterwards)
>>17894154
>Have you gotten that checked out? Cause you really should. 3 years is a long time.
Yeah, actually managed to diagnose it myself during my studies after the doctors failed and confirmed my diagnosis with relevant tests. I know what is the cause, but standard therapy doesn't seem to help much. Still wondering whether I should go with a more aggressive treatment considering it doesn't have any impact on my life except being unaesthetic
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>>17900171
It's not like I was actively roaming around for women. They were just in my classes and around uni and we were joking around/bantering previously, so I figured I'd get their numbers and tell them that we should do *insert watching a movie, studying, etc*

The whole desperate thing sounds like a copout when I literally overhear the women I ask out tell their friends that they'd date me "if I was taller" or that "it's a shame he's so short"
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>>17900213
did you ask girls who are shorter than you?
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>>17900218
Almost all of them were shorter than me.
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>>17900213
>It's not like I was actively roaming around for women.
>Asked out 100+ women over the course of 6 years

One of these things is not like the other...

>Also 29 years old with a $44/hr job.
You almost make it sound as if you -deserve- and -entitled- a woman.

You deserve nothing. The sooner you realize this, the better off you'll be.
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>>17900200
what I mean is that I say stuff like
>please please go out with me
>I know im not good enough but id be happy if we went out
and generally insecure shit like that and I still got girls and I have a gf atm
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>>17900232
dude, you're 6'1.
The guy in question is 5'3.

How are you even trying to compare the two?
Are you serious?
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>>17900228
You'd be surprised how many people you can talk to over the course of half a decade.

And I never said I was entitled, jesus, why do you guys always jump to this? The world doesn't owe me anything, I know that much. It just sucks to put effort into it and not get anything out of it, that's natural. These few posts have been the first time I've complained about this since 4 years ago.
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>>17900227
idk then man, maybe it's your confidence. i personally know several dudes who r quite short (under 170) and have plenty of pussy.
my best friend has a cousin who's around 165, has a really pretty wife and cheats on her with plenty of other girls
knew someone from uni, who bulked and went to gym for like several years to stay fit, couldn't find a gf, now he stopped, got thinner and looks more human and found a fuck buddy
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>>17900243
>You'd be surprised how many people you can talk to over the course of half a decade.

I don't think you understand so I'll break it down for you.

>100+ women over the course of 6 years
>You're asking out at least 16 girls a year
>That's at least 1 every month..over the course of 6 YEARS

This isn't about how many women you can talk to over the course of 6 years, but how many of them you're asking out.

Asking out a woman every month says 2 things.
1. You don't even care at this point who you end up with, you just want to be with someone.
2. You're desperate af

Why are you in such a hurry?
Why aren't you content this instant?

You need to re-examine yourself.
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>>17900267
>hooking up with a girl once a month is being desperate
dude what

I do just that
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>>17889527
Breaking up over something stupid? Sounds like that 'something stupid' thing was not the actual reason. You are responsible of your own life, stop blaming others. This is your reality, this is not a rehearsal for something bigger. The only way to reach happiness is to get rid of the negative experiences you have control over. With this being said, why would you dwell in the things you have no control over? GO, ACTIVATE YOURSELF. THIS IS YOUR LIFE.
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>>17900280
Yes, and my statement still stands.
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>>17900284
that's fucking stupid there's nothing wrong with having sex with a girl every month and that doesn't make me desperate
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>>17900267
How is 16 in a year a lot? How is it being desperate to give a girl that interests me a shot? What is considered to be too many in a year?

And yeah, I'm not content because I'd rather not worry about being a virgin at 29 and have my folks pester me about it. I just want to take care of myself and my family at the moment, but these thoughts still pop up and my libido is getting annoying. If manning up means not wanting to deal with getting a gf or having sex, and instead do literally anything else that interests me, then yes, I want to man up.
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>>17900319
This, there is nothing wrong with sex. Heck, we are here because our parents had sex. It is the ultimate form of loving when done with good intent.
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>>17900239
Height doesn't matter at all. The guy's just a desperate loser, but that tall guy has gotten lucky somehow.
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>>17900329
Wew.
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>>17900329
Sorry but as a girl I'd rather date someone a couple inches taller than me
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>>17900319
Well there is.
1. You're desperate (You will ask a girl out once a month for the sole purpose of sex)
2. You're shallow. No interest in a partner. You're akin to a wild beast in the jungle.

>>17900320
>How is 16 in a year a lot?
Uhh, because you're literally asking out a girl every month. How is that not desperate? You're literally throwing feces on the wall and hoping it sticks. That's literally what you're doing.

>I'd rather not worry about being a virgin at 29
Why is this still a thing?
You're a virgin, at 29... SO WHAT?

>>17900329
Dumbest post I've read all day.
Remove yourself from this board
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>>17900340
well you are quite short for a guy, but i've seen guys around your height with girlfriends, height is not the only factor
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>>17900352
>reading comprehension
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>>17900347
>shaming male/female promiscuity
okay dude
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>>17900354
i misread the beginning
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>>17900364
He isn't shaming female promiscuity genius.
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>>17900340
It's not like there aren't girls shorter than 5'3 that can date him.
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>>17900389
but I'm 5'1 i'd go as low as 5'5
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>>17900405
>I'm
>i'd
I'm 5'2 and never dated anyone taller than 5'6
It's up to personal preference, some girls date/marry guys shorter than them. Ofc it's easier for a taller dude to find a gf, but it's not like all short guys die single.
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I'm working on thinking positively and remembering all of the strategies I've learned so far in order to cope well and eventually hopefully live instead of just surviving. I still feel nervous about going back. I feel nervous him not being there will trigger me and I'll be in more pain than I can manage.
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>>17900456
knowing strategies and doing them are two different things, idk what's your story anon but surround yourself with supportive people to cope better with stuff
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>>17900476
You're right. It'll be hard though to open up to people. People don't usually keep their promises and I was silly enough to think they'd be different.
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It's hard for me to stay motivated enough to try for what I want. A lot of people will say I'm so smart and I could do so much better in life, but that just makes me choke up, because I feel like I can barely meet expectations as it is.

I could sit and say well it comes from school - I was a honors student who never even tried, half-assed my way and yet was rewarded simply because we're talking about American public schools where the bar is already way too fucking low.

So on the one hand I never learned how to put in any effort and that's why I'm making 9.50 at a fucking dead end factory. But on the other hand, nothing I've ever tried has ever paid off and all my endeavors and plans end in blazing failure.

And I'm honestly thinking I might just fucking check out on life. Not kill myself but give up ever hoping for improvement and just settle for a garbage existence.

Why try when you're going to fail? I'll just stay at my shit factory job and buy a trailer and find the first available female no matter how ugly or fat or whatever, just because it's female companionship. I'm not good enough for anything else and I don't want to put in effort to become good enough.

And eat shit food and drink and get fat and grow old with a boring slobbering gross wife and dumb kids that hate me and die of a heart attack before I can even retire, isn't that just what most Americans do anyway
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>be off for couple of months in university
>fucking love it

>be off for two weeks from work
>depressed

Thanks, life. I miss being happy just to sit and play Dota 2 all day.
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Anyone else feel like this right now?
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anybody else just tired of jacking off?
i mean it's nice
but i'm just tired of the idea that i've been doing this for more than 10 years, just wanting the real thing to happen
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>>17900995

I quit fapping and I feel a lot healthier Tbh
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>>17900999
are you a kv
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>>17901005

Don't know what that means Tbh
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>>17901020
kissless virgin but i guess i'm just curious if you regularly have sex

i did nofap a couple years ago and it was cool but idk if it would help me much anymore
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>>17901028

>i'm just curious if you regularly have sex

Lmao no. I've had sex only 2 times ever. And I was 20 years old when that happened. Bad experience Tbh

I've been fapping everyday for years and years. It wasn't healthy. It gave me anxiety and drained me of energy. Since I stopped I feel healthier
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>>17900938
You're so comfortable having low standards.
Thank you because it make me have to work less to become greater than you
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>>17895840
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>>17899511
>Perhaps also because I like to blog like I do here without being accountable for it (ie, having it tied to an identity), just like I am doing now.
If you post frequently enough, seemingly innocuous information can be pieced together to identify you. There is never a guarantee of anonymity anywhere on the internet.

>it's as ephimeral as any such conversation.
Wrong again. There are sites that log all of 4chan's posts. Maybe not every board, but they are all logged out there by a number of sites.
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>>17899982
Should have said no fire me mofo
now they wont have to pay work comp
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>>17900986
I've been feeling like since I was in high school interspersed with brief moments of joy.
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2017 goals
>January
Sign up for fafsa and scholarships for 17-18 school year
Read 2 chapters of accounting book
Read 2 chapters of HR book
Read 2 chapters of Econ book
Read 2 chapters of marketing book
Read 'you can have an amazing life...' And 'ballet companion part 1' if I finished my required reading and work
Stretch until I'm not sore
>Feb
Read 3 chapters of accounting book
Read 2 chapters of HR book
Read 2 chapters of Econ book
Read 2 chapters of marketing book
Finish 'you can have an amazing life...' and 'ballet companion part 2'
>Mar
Go to France
Read 2 chapters of accounting book
Read 2 chapters of HR book
Read 2 chapters of Econ book
Read 2 chapters of marketing book
>April
Read 2 chapters of accounting book
Read 2 chapters of HR book
Read 2 chapters of Econ book
Read 2 chapters of marketing book
Read Confessions of an economic hitman
>may
Read 1 chapter of accounting book
Read 2 chapters of HR book
Read 2 chapters of Econ book
Read 2 chapters of marketing book
Finish semester with 3.8 gpa (3.65 gpa as of Dec '16)
Read Canterbury tales
>jun
>jul
>Aug
Start semester
>sep
>oct
>nov
>dec
Finish semester with 4.0 gpa
Save $5000 by end of year ($416 each month)

>long term goals
Don't be perfect, just do your fucking work
AAS degree - currently working on until spring 2018
BABA degree
MBA degree

2016 was good to me
>increased gpa
>backpacked through Italy
>met incredible people
>read and learned so much about business
>forced myself to talk to people
>stopped caring about my bf and his cheating ways. Even though we're together, I refuse to tell people we are.
>closer to my senpai more than ever
>still broke but at least everything gets paid enough to make ends meet
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>>17902101
Lol why does the word senpai replace when I say 'senpai'
I've noticed this
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>>17902104
What the hell
It did it again
F-A-M
F a m
Familam
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>>17902104
It's a word filter. It used to be moot's decision on what words got changed to what, so I guess whoever runs the place is doing that now.
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>>17902101
You macromanage a lot
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>>17902101

What are you striving for in life? You will probably never even ask yourself that question.

People like you will never be truly happy
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>>17901762
Who is going to bother unless they are looking for a school shooter?
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I stopped caring about girls, stopped caring about the idea of dating and all that years ago. I have noticed a weird boost in my mental health. I feel more energetic, I feel like doing shit, being creative.
Once I learned to live my life for myself and for no one else, I became "happy" in a way.
It's funny thinking back how much time I spend worrying about having no gf and all that. It really wrecked me at times.
Friends are valuable, online ones all the same. Hold onto friendships, value those nerds that are willing to talk to you online.
>>17887062
Nah, that isn't a step to helping yourself.
Since the dawn of this site, it has only helped me. From funposting to interesting conversations on various boards, made my best online friends from 4chan during MSN's gold days all of which helped me out of a rut.
If you are the type to get triggered by everything and absorb all negativity instead of looking at it in a fun way, you have a deeper problem to begin with. Resorting to hugbox sites will only make your problems worse.
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>>17902434

Quality post
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The feel when you try to masturbate but fail because you can't imagine what it's like being intimate with a girl. So your dick pathetically goes soft halfway through fap
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just fucking kill me already

the fundamental parts of my brain arent functioning the way they are supposed to be.
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>>17902547

What do you mean
>>
This 2017 i will be reborn.
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I posted this in another thread but nobody responded. I wasted ten years being in love with a girl but too afraid of rejection to do anything about it. Last night I finally asked her if I had a chance at a romantic relationship with her. I needed her to reject me so I could get over her. She did. It was a huge relief at first but now it's starting to hurt. I'm getting old and the last thing I need in life is for someone to love me. I have a job and a truck and a mortgage and a 401k. Now I just need a wife.

Honestly she is not a good person. She does hard drugs and she cheated (we dated briefly ten years ago) on me at least twice that I know of. She has no accomplishments or achievements in life other than being pretty and she is rapidly losing that to age. If someone that messed up cant love me i feel like no-one ever will.

I have to see her every day. How am I supposed to move on from this?

I'm going to get drunk. I hope someone will respond to me so I can keep my drunkposting on 4chan and off of social media.
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>>17902732

Bro, think to yourself "fuck this bitch". Keep saying it to yourself. She's done you wrong in the past, you shouldn't crave her
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>>17902747
Yeah I've basically been trying to make myself feel better by talking mad shit about her. To myself. Not to other people.

I guess the best I can do is just keep lifting and start going out again. Sucks that I gotta see her every day though. It's going to be really awkward for a while.
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>>17902819

Why do you have to see her everyday
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>>17902852
She's my room mate. Hopefully she will stay away from the house for a while.
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>>17902732

Motherfucker realize that you are in control of your life and no one else.

Realize that she doesn't make you feel this way. You make you feel this way. You are just using her as an excuse.

Once you realize that thoughts, emotions, physical stature, etc., are the results of you choosing to feel or be affected by them your life becomes so much more simpler.
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>>17902860

Socially distance yourself. Limit conversations.

She wronged you. You shouldn't crave her
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>>17902613
In what way?
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>>17902864
Thanks bro. So "fuck this bitch" and take control of my emotions. I feel better already. I can do this.

>>17902866
Yeah I think that's a good idea too. You guys are awesome. I appreciate it.
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>>17902874

Tell it to yourself outloud if you have to.

There was a girl who I completely fell for, things didn't workout. She never wronged me, but it still hurt a lot. So I would outloud tell myself "it's over, she moved on, she likes someone else" over and over for weeks. Eventually, I accepted it
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>>17902874

"fuck this bitch"

Not necessarily the right mentality to have.

Think of it like trash. You don't say fuck this trash, I'm better than this trash when it starts to stink.

You don't say "fuck this toilet" when it gets clogged. You just throw it out/clean it up and get on with your day.

You know you got the right mentality when she is just there, like a rock or a tree.
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>>17902886
Sucks you had to feel that. I swear fire is less painful. I'm glad you got over it.
>>17902894
I think I gotta do "fuck this bitch" at first and once she's just a room mate to me again she will just be there, like a rock or a tree.

Appreciate your help guys. I'm gonna go find something to keep me busy until bedtime.
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After 3 years in depression and anxiety I fell, that 2017 could be different. Dunno why, I'm definitely not optimist, it just fells that way. Enjoy.
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>>17902983
2017 can be different but you have to work for it.
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>>17902983
i don't feel like anything changed for me, but first time i made some resolutions for this year and sort of a plan to pull myself together
gl everyone with whatever you want to accomplish!
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>>17898156
29 here and I feel the same as you. I don't even know how it passed by so quickly. I have decided to take the next week to start fresh and build a new life that I can be happy with. I have lost almost all interest in anything I once held and I need to find fulfilling activities and something to strive for.
>>
25 years old here. How do I explain that I'm incapable of maintaining a relationship? Many people think I'm cool and funny and nice but I literally can't hold a gf for more than a month. Maybe they see something in me that doesn't work, but all my relationships have been short, depressive and unfulfilling.

What's wrong with me?
>>
>>17903447

>25 years old here. Many people think I'm cool and funny

That's exactly me. Except for I've never had a girlfriend before
>>
I've noticed a pattern.

I can flirt with a girl for a while, but as soon as she starts to show interest in me.. I immediately lose interest. It's happened dozens of times. I'll be flirting for a few days or weeks with a cute girl, she'll give in and say something like "you know, you're really cute. We should hang out sometime :)" I all of a sudden lose all interest

There has only ever been 1 girl, ONE that I kept liking a lot after she because interested in me. She was the only one I was really happy to know she liked me. But everyone else I lose interest in. I never even go out with these girls because I lose interest before that point even happens

Why?
>>
>>17899907
I know that feeling, work is just soul-crushing wageslave work but without it, I'd just sit home all day.

Living in London for the past 20-something years has taught me that money is God, looks and trendiness comes a close second.

Money can buy anything even authenticity.
>>
I want to start reading again.
I only read 2 books this year.

I want to read a book a month.
How can I achieve this goal?
>>
>>17903843
Fucking niggers, chavs and pakis are too stupid to what's being taken away from them.

Fuck the yuppies and hipsters.
>>
>>17900137
Can you suggest an exercise program to do at home?
>>
>>17903882
stronglifts or starting strenght. just lurk fit dude
>>
>>17903882
Do you have any weights or plan on getting any or would you prefer strict body workout routines?
Your answer will determine what exercises you can do of course
>>
I'm 25+ and i feel pretty much perfect right now. It's the rest of the world that's incompatible with me.
>>
24 and considering going back to university after a tough go at it when I was 18. Seems like the only hope for actual development.
>>
>>17903940
Do it Anon.

I took Liberal Arts and ended up hating it. Went back to college at 22 and graduated last year. Found work in the field. Before that I was working retail. It's pretty crazy what a fancy piece of paper can get you if you're committed.

I'm going to continue more schooling next year.

A word of advice though, if you do go to Uni, make sure you're going there knowing what you want to do, knowing what you want out of it and are committed 100%. If you're wavering on the idea, you probably aren't ready yet. Make sure you're ready bro and you'll be fine.
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>Nearly 28
>lots of time off work over Christmas >fuck yeah
>video games,anime and 4chan all day every day
>The Existential crisis hits

Haven't stepped outside for like a week ,JUST
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>>17902421
You never know why someone might want to investigate you.
>>
>>17904000
It's 4chan, it's either gonna be a shooting, party van or an internet drama detective.
>>
Lol if you haven't accomplished nothing by 25 you should just sudoku already
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>>17904251
Is that another word filter? I've seen that quite a few times when someone suggests to kill yourself.
>>
>29
>haven't had a job in 5 years.
>Student loans defaulted.
>have a bachelors and an associates.
>No work references.
>Alcoholic for a long time, was in rehab this year and been sober for 8 months.

Trying to get a job, any fucking job really. I'd be happy stocking supermarket shelves or some shit. Can't do anything super physical because of issues with my leg. No luck at all finding someone willing to hire me though. Any advice?
>>
>>17904307
Where do you live?
If you live in the city, go to resources that help people get jobs. Granted, it will be retail/factory work but withe a bachelors, they may help you with that too.

Congrats on staying sober for 8 months!
>>
>>17904320
I live in the country, there's a city with a unemployment place nearby. I can't really even do shit like factory or warehouse work because of my leg. But I don't really care if it's minimum wage gas station clerk shit at this point.
>>
>>17904342
There's tons of services for contract jobs that hire people for tedious paperwork jobs. I've worked for several companies that hire people for those types of job. About 30% of them end up getting hired full-time.
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>>17889046
This is what its like to be a 29 year old anon.

You're exactly where I was at 29 (33 now).

I did a lot of growing up from 29-32 and I am a completely different now.
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>>17892733
>Gym subscription
I don't understand gyms. What can you do there that you couldn't do yourself at home/at the park/in the woods/mountains/wilderness etc.?

They have pull-up bars in many parks, and even then you can improvise with most architecture. Can't you just change the type of pull-up along with adding weight with a plate/backpack to cover all of the muscle groups in your arms?

You can go running everyday, mixing up your regimen between endurance (cover x distance in y time) and sprints (20 seconds running as hard/fast as you can, 20 seconds walking/breathing)

You can work your way up to doing hundreds/thousands of crunches/sit ups/leglifts/planks a day to get that greek god 6-pack.
>>
>>17904489
Its for weight lifting. Squats, bench press, and dead lifts are some of the best things you can do. They all require weights and bars, things most people don't have.
>>
>>17904489
>"Where are you going Anon?"
>'Gonna do some pullups on the monkey bars at the park. Gotta workout n' stuff y'know?'

No.
>>
>>17901762
>seemingly innocuous information can be pieced together to identify you.
True, I give out enough information so that a dedicated party could reasonably identify my posts.
However the sea of daily vents that this place gets is sure to be enough noise to drown my uninteresting blogging
But that's not what I mean, what I really meant is that if I keep a blog, then I have to keep a dedicated blog, remember a password, and overall feel like I have to keep some quality in my posts, even if nobody reads them. And by ephimeral I mean that _I_ forget about them promptly as the thread disappears.
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