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Are guys nowadays dumb or just being pussies?
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>>17564291
>tumblr
Maybe you are too dumb to find out for yourself
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>girls won't ever nut up and just ask someone they like out if their obtuse hints aren't working
>guys are the pussies

Right.
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>>17564325
I guess it depends on region or mentality or whatever but isn't it much more enjoyable when the you as a man take control over the situation? Testosteron and shit, you know
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>>17564291
>Are guys nowadays dumb or just being pussies?
Yes.
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>>17564339
I don't really care one way or the other, I just think it's retarded to not be straight up with what you want and then get mad because your 'signals' got ignored or whatever.

If you want something then go after it, there's no other excuse.
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>>17564291

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED

Well, maybe not you, per se, but the world we live in.

To answer your question - pussies.

Masculinity has been so tempered by a world of litigation, political correctness, college feminism, gender melodrama, and "rape culture" that the days of picking up on a girl's vibe and just grabbing her for a big kiss is long gone.

Yes, whoever you are thinking about probably wants to mount you like a viking, and fuck you into sexual submission, but that INSTINCT has been complately villified to the point of extinction.

Did you really think in a world where men are trained to ask for permission before making a move, that a guy will make a move without clear and court defensible consent?

After all the endless headlines where consenual sex becomes rape because she had 2 beers will engender him go grab you from behind and start kissing your neck after you've had a couple?

I don't know what to tell you. There is a war on "toxic masculinity", and while it's mostly garbage, it has done it's damage.

You probably need to submit a notarized document alerting him to the fact that you would like to engage in sexual activities with him.
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>>17564291
Both.
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>>17564402
t. sobbing vagina with a victim complex

Wanting to not be raped is not an affront to masculinity
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>>17564291
>see women dropping mad hints
>go over
>hey you want to...
>receive a madly sour stare and a clear indicator that she's about to call the police
>back off
>never do it again
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>>17564402
One thing that bothers me about when people talk about the emasculation of the male, is they always say it's a whole wide world thing. This is predominantly an American thing, and I honestly believe it comes from women -fighting and winning- equal rights. If men had just given it to them before all the conflict, it would not be such an issue, but now women fought the system of patriarchy and won, so now it's just one goddamn thing after another. No other countries has feminazis like America. I genuinely believe it comes from the equal rights movement.

I'm in the military and have traveled the world. Women in many other countries (not all) are confident AND feminine. But now in America, if a women does something feminine, it comes with a stigma. Like somehow she's a failure for fulfilling a gender role that assisted societies in progressing for thousands upon thousands of years. Other countries don't look at it like that. Even in countries where women do go to work every day, they still come home and be females. Cook, clean, etc.

Women don't even want the kind of men they claim to want. They want the kind of men, who at the time were modern, that made America what it was before they started the fight for equal rights. Confident, knowledgeable males who didn't push others around but didn't get pushed around either. The kind of man that feminists nowadays are tempering is a pushover that literally would be a perfect worker bee on a fucking farm. Brainless, non-confident, incapable of making his own decisions without asking for approval.
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>>17564291
I want to be hardcore but I need to build an army first
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>>17564450

>insults me by calling me a vagina
>immediately plays rape card

You have 100% proved my point. Enjoy your cats.

t. married guy who watches todays 20-somethings with great sadness.
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>>17564459

Noted and I will think twice before making Global claims like that.
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>>17564291
Every girl has a different set of hints, it's like trying to memorize other languages.
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>>17564459
This
Sadly America has such a large cultural influence that is is affecting the rest of the western world as well
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>>17564474
>married
>looks down on others

come back after the divorce
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>>17564291
Both.
Girls have to be really forward with their intentions these days. I can't tell you how many times I've been turned down because the girl said "uh I was just being friendly. Sorry if you took it as more."

Also there's the fear of rejection that can stem from my previous point. So guys get too wimpy to even ask a girl for lunch.

But I blame modern female society and feminism for making the world this way.
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>>17564291
Maybe he thinks you're horrendous
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>>17564497
Not the same guy, but a tripfag insulting someone for looking down on others is pretty funny.
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if you don't take note of hints by females, you're not accustomed to being with them. on the flip side, it's harder for men to just take control and assume given this climate of rape culture etc. best thing is to just ask.
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>>17564517
Not the same but but an anon insulting a tripfag insulting a married guy for looking down on others is pretty funny
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>>17564497

oh my sweet misguided young lady. You thought they taught you to be strong and independent, but they only taught you to pretend you are a man. It's ok to be female. Females are great. Everyone loves Moms, teachers, nurses, and all the traditional female roles. You can be anything you want, but please, for your sake, think about what you want to be first (hint:aggressive shrew is not the best choice).
>looks down on others
Look at you projecting. I'm not your Mom. I have no reason to be disappointed in you.

Yes, 20 somethings make me sad. You've been been betrayed by America. Everything is about conflict, be it race, gender, money, or what model of phone you use. This website is overflowing with disenfranchised and hopeless youngsters who don't believe in
>success
>financial security
>love
>family

Ya know, all the things I have. I like what I have, and I would like others to have nice things. Do you?

No. You want to fight and insult and wage a war against yourself and call it social justice.

ps - I've been divorced once, married twice. I wonder what I know that you don't? You'll see with time.
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>>17564619
I have a penis dude
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>>17564650
Prove it.
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No girl has ever liked me so idk
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>>17564650
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0gpr4TciUhm
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>>17564650

Once again, you've proven my point.

Sorry man, you just come off as a butthurt college girl. Maybe you shouldn't yell rape, or invoke flying horses, or destiny, or anime so much.

FWIW, it's not your fault entirely. You've been raised in a different world than I was. If you ever need a quick reference to what it looks like to be a man, think about Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec. He's a bit silly, but the overall outline should give you some direction.
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>>17564682
What the fuck is on the background?
You watching chewbacca porn son?
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>>17564690
I'm playing Overwatch, that's roadhog breathing kek
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>>17564691
Disappointing
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>>17564682

Jesus dude, old man here again.

ok, when some anon calls you out, don't fucking answer. By literally giving "proof" (could be your brother), you literally just made the charges against you seem viable.

Answering an accusation only gives it power.
Now you actually look like you are worried that people think you might be a girl.

A man doesn't care what other people think. Not his Dad, his Boss, his best friend, and certainly not shitposters.

Again, your generation was raised to be submissive and compliant, but it's not to late to save yourself.

Shit, I used to dislike you, but now I just want to help you.
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>>17564291
Yes sir, the pussification of males has been going on for a while. Ever since the fake rape accusations came up. Also Hollywood and the whole media empire brainwashing people with their new age feminists nonsense bullshit. Want an example? Just watch the Ghostbusters reboot. Not that I bothered watching though.

Also parents don't teach their kids how to actually deal with women. We get all this nonsense from the media telling us from early age to put pussy in a pedestal etc. Now we have so many people who can't even communicate properly with women, as if they're aliens or some bullshit.
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>>17564712
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1kWHJHktH22
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>>17564734
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1kWHJHktH22

Well, It would certainly be easier, and who doesn't like free drinks?

Ok, anon, I've actually had a blast with you today. thanks for shitposting, but I have to wrap a few things up before I leave the office.
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>tripfag animeposter
>sounds like a metrosexual canuck

golden
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>>17564746
You should wrap up a wad of dosh and send it to me

>>17564761
You hang out with metrosexual canucks?
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The guy successfully derailed a stupid thread, that's honestly a good thing.
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>>17564354
The problem with this rhetoric though is that, obviously if that dude wanted me, then he would have made a move therefore he's not into me and it's futile to even try. And the same goes the other direction too, if that chick really wanted me she would have made a move.
That's why we get stuck in this infinite loop of pussying out. This is why "signals" and more subtle forms of expression are necessary, or the dynamic of dominant vs submissive people continues to exist. However it seems these days the subs are extremely overpopulating the doms.
Idk how the problem can be fixed t b h, other than by changing to social rules to make rejection not as painful as it is. But I'm not sure that can be changed either due to the emotional attachment to it.

The concept of giving more subtle, not in your face clues works well for this problem. You can give you cue, and if you get a response great. If you dont, you can take that as your answer. And if the worst case comes and you get a negative response, you have the option to play it off like your intentions were never that way anyway.
There has been a significant problem in young people's interactions I've seen. Body language is a thing of the past, nobody knows how to comprehend it anymore. Personally, I'll risk sounding like a bitter old fart, but the only thing I can think of causing this is the generation being brought up on cyber interaction and online dating. When all you ever do is talk to people via text, you'll never understand body language and social cues.
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>>17564325
>>17564354
This used to bother me to an endless degree until I realized what was going on.

It's the haves vs. the have-nots.

The "haves", those people who have it all when it comes to sexuality, are essentially "elite" players in the dating/mating game. They have beautiful faces, sexy bodies, sensual voices, lots of money, and are extremely confident, often to a fault. To these people, it's trivial. Dating and getting sex are so ridiculously easy for them that they actually seek a challenge. They play games (see: sending "signals", body language, hints, things like strategic put-downs and intentional stalling to make the other wait on you, a general tug-of-war of who is dominant in the relationship {or potential relationship}, "testing" others, psychological manipulation, etc.) to make dating more interesting and add an extra degree of challenge, otherwise it's just boring. They're not looking for a partner, they're not trying to find love, so actually just being straight-up and honest about their desires and intentions isn't in their interest. That would just make dating even easier, and they're looking for a challenging game that they can win.

cont...
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>>17564790
>obviously if that dude wanted me, then he would have made a move therefore he's not into me

You are fucking retarded. Do you genuinely believe every guy hits on every girl he is interested in? Are you really this stupid?

Have you even considered why "approach anxiety" exists? In a society, if a male is rejected by a female, even one single female, he will be seen as trash by other females. Any female that accepts him will be seen as accepting what has been rejected. This is an instinctive fear because if you approach a girl and get rejected, literally your whole genetic legacy could be nullified, and you will never reproduce, so a man must choose very fucking carefully. This is why approach anxiety exists.

Hypothetical situation: If literally no other human could ever know that you asked a girl out and got rejected, do you think as many men would be afraid to ask women out? It's not the action you fear, it's the consequences. The same reason so many people have a fear of public speaking. You speak all the damned time, now when there is a crowd, there is judgment. What you say could get you exiled. You could become an outcast and lose you social connection, so speak fucking carefully. This is why public speaking is also an instinctive fear.

Plenty of people are interested in you, dumbass. They just don't want to be invalidated as human beings.
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>>17564291

I was at a party last month flirting with a girl who dropped hints all night. at the end of the party I made a move and we made out in her bed a bit. I fingered her a little and then she said she was tired and we went to bed. not a bad night.

few weeks later we're in the dissolving phase where we say "let's be friends and get coffee" before we stop speaking forever and in the last fucking message she turns around and spins the story like she was passed out and I made moves on her while she was unaware, going so far as to say that she "didn't consent to it" and that I was terrible and shouldn't ever do that to anyone again.

we had a fucking conversation before I made my move. and she waiting through 3 weeks of sporadic messaging before she decided she wasn't ok with it. I was terrified when I read that message, because even though she was lying, she could ruin my whole fucking life with that claim alone, no matter how unfounded it is. and she still can. She has that card that she can play on me forever now, whenever she feels like it.

That is the world we live in now, and that is why guys like myself are afraid to be assertive.
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>>17564809
>cont...

Then there's the have-nots, those who are basically just regular, everyday people. Maybe lower-income or less-than-attractive in terms of physical appearance. Just people with lower "sexual market value" compared to the "haves". Maybe a little more on the "boring" side than the "sexy" side. These are the people who just sincerely want a long-term relationship and a compatible partner. To them, dating is challenging enough as it is without all the "wink-and-nod-for-yes, smile-and-turn-slightly-for-no, let-me-show-you-how-much-more-alpha-I-am-than-everyone-else-here-including-you" bullshit. They just want a compatible partner. They are more likely to open with exactly what they know of themselves and exactly what they are looking for, knowing fairly quickly if you're what they want, then trying to move forward, or if you're not what they want, then closing things off.

The problem comes from people who either mistakenly (or rightfully) think they are among the "elite", or simply desire to be among the "elite" so bad that they follow the mantra of "fake it til you make it". These are the people who are barely 7/10s, but think that they're 11/10s, and try to play the current-running dating games HARD, in the hopes of somehow fooling and snagging one of the "elites" themselves.

This comes in the form of women who try to get the attention of a particular man by casually flipping her hair in his vicinity, or standing a few inches further from her nearby friends, or just generally doing anything other than getting his attention, and guys who try to pretend to be "alpha", even when they know they don't believe that shit, to try and posture and brag and puff out their chests in the hopes that it will somehow impress girls that have many better available options when it comes to guys like that.

Basically, play the part of the partner you want. You want a woman who is honest and to-the-point? Be that way yourself, and accept no less.
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>>17564818
>projection to the nth degree.
I'm gonna let you in on a secrete mate, there is not secrete girl language that we use to tell every single one of our kind who we rejected. I don't even know who my best friend has rejected in her life. This concept is simply laughable. You are not trash just because one chick said no, and you need serious psychological help if you have this level of crazy conspiracy theories. Every girl on the whole earth doesn't go to secrete meetings where we all discuss dudes we rejected and forbid everyone else from seeing. If we did no dude would ever have a girl ever, because news flash, taste is subjective. Brad Pitt is a fugly ass I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, but I'd throw myself at the scrawny Japanese musician and beg him to fuck me.

Also if you actually read my post, you'd see that I specifically stated this goes both ways, it's not just men but also women having this "fear of rejection".
It's why I don't do the approach, but I'm also not bitching because I know damn well I could if I just sucked it up and did it. Nobody's stopping me but me.
>implying I'm tweedling my mustache waiting to "invalidate" every man on earth muhahaha.
Dude.
I will say there is nobody interested in me. That's because I'm fat though, and that's my own problem I could solve easily. And I'm am solving it.
But I could say the same thing about you. If you aren't a complete sociopath who looks like the thing, you have people interested in you too. But what good does any of that do either of us when we're all too afraid to make a definitive move?
This is why I'm arguing being able to read non verbal clues is important. We get our safety net to our egos, and we still can express interest.
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>>17564325
They aren't supposed to you loser virgin
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>>17564860
>They aren't supposed to
Says who? The same people who day guys should buy girls drinks, pay for dates, and spend over 10 grand on an engagement ring? Fuck social norms, girls should buy me shit
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a regular guy though process goes like this..
>girl is extremely flirty
>not subtle at all
>she wants the D
>she probably does this with every single guy she finds slightly attractive and she wants to fuck
>probably ridden by STDs
>would cheat as soon as I'm not looking
>would try to pass some nigger kids as my own
>no thanks

Don't fool yourself, being easy just allows people to take advantage of you. Of course Chad and niggers will take advantage of you, but guys interested in serious, long-term relationship know that they have no future with girls like this.
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>>17564922
I think you messed something up senpai
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>>17564909
So are you saying the solution is to not be direct and give very vague hints of interest, because that doesn't seem to be working either.

Frankly I'm a virgin and wouldn't even consider having sex with a guy until after we've dated for a year. No matter what I've tried it's either I get zero interest, or chad's interest. There's been no in between.
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>>17564936
>1 year

Anyone above the age of 21 isn't waiting a year for some princess to stop being scared of sex when perfectly normal girls can put out within like 3 months at most
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>>17564291
Weren't there studies done which showed evidence that men overestimate female attraction to them? And don't women constantly complain about make friends falling for them?

That's why I don't bother. I just assume she isn't interested and is being nice/friendly. If she said "I like you a lot and want to go out with you" I would have no room for interpretation.
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>>17564951
Agreeing with the tripfag here
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>>17564291

One girls "OMG WHY WON'T HE MAN UP AND ASK ME OUT, I WAS MAKING IT SO OBVIOUS?" is another girls "EWWW, CREEP, I WAS JUST BEING FRIENDLY".

Not our fault women have become so ambiguous that they're impossible to read accurately.

Particularly when sexual harrasment has been defined as "unwanted attention", another thing so vaguely defined that just about anything could be considered harassment - in a world where it can get you fired too.

So the answer?
"pussies".

If taking a dumb ass risks just to get laid makes someone a pussy, anyway.
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>>17564958
>If she said "I like you a lot and want to go out with you" I would have no room for interpretation.
If only life were that simple
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>>17564959
Don't, he doesn't actually mean anything he says. He's bashed women for putting out too early all the time, but the second one wants to wait he flips the script and bashes them for that.
Ignore him please he's a very shitty troll.
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>>17565010
>le flips the script meme

Looks like you're still mad from the other thread, go pretend to be that girls brother you faggot lmao
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>>17564909
You're a retard. Just because a girl is acting like she likes you doesn't mean she's had dong to the moon and back. Jesus christ, how fucking highschool can you be?
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Around here it can be hard to tell, but mostly the latter. They're so afraid of being told no -creepy strike one- that they overcomplicate things looking for cheat codes -creepy strike two- and then bitch when they don't get them the specific girl they've been obsessing over for months or years. Creepy strike three.
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>>17564884
No one said anything about marrying. You should buy her things unless you have no pride in yourself to be the provider. Would you rather just be a useless piece of shit being on your ass while your girl is the one working? Fucking man up, it's people like you that are destroying masculinity by trying to break down gender roles.
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being entirely honest yes, I am a fucking idiot. My IQ is like 84 or some shit. I don't easily pick up on chicks hints til shes pretty much throwing herself at me, because of this I've pissed off a few girls in my time.
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>>17564809
This post bothered me until I realized you have autism.

Plenty of hot people to busy to play games.
Plenty of fugly people who flirt relentlessly because they enjoy the attention more than a relationship.

Rest is TLDR
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>>17565087
>Would you rather just be a useless piece of shit being on your ass while your girl is the one working
Yes that'd be great. Fuck being the provider if I get nothing out of it. "Pride" who gives a fuck as long as her pussy works and we're paying the bills
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>>17565087
You sound very insecure
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>>17564818
>this entire post
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>>17564291
Educated stupid, I'd say.
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>>17565122
Then you're no man, you're a failure living the life of a woman. You don't want to protect, you want to be protected and be bossed around by your the woman that you will never get because no woman would want to be with losers like you. You have no motivation to attract women and how to keep them which means you don't deserve a gf which means you are not allowed to complain about not having one.
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In my case im an special kind of idiot, i get the hints but i always put all my effort chasing girls that will never give me a hint

Meanwhile i have completely ignored girls that send me hints just because im always chasing the wrong person
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>>17565152
Wow all these projections about my masculinity.
Are you a virgin?
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>>17564291
For me it's a combination of both. I actually took the hints but due to disinterest and not knowing what to respond (retardation) it always looked like I didn't get them at all. I'm also not used to receive interest from a girl so when I do it weirds me out more than anything. For example when I wasn't interested in my ex before dating her I made it as if I didn't get the hints or ignored them while laughing inside like a madman. Besides I prefer when someone opens up and tells me how they feel instead of having shallow conversations with some encripted mayan alien codes in between them just to make me say I would date them.
I'm also pretty sure most anons here have anxiety issues or some autism related thing, which makes them freeze in place or do dumb shit insread of following up the hint or taking it.
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>>17565183
Are you?
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>>17565152
>being a man means you have to give all your shit to women
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>>17565205
No that's why i find your incredibly insecure comments hilarious.
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>>17564402
>You probably need to submit a notarized document alerting him to the fact that you would like to engage in sexual activities with him.

I think this is the biggest fear consuming some men these days, just the threat of any casual encounter being construed as a sexual assault for petty or bullshit reasons.
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>>17565216
This desu
I'd never lay the lips on a girl unless you either said kiss me or she kissed me first
Not even beta i dont wanna go to jail
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>>17565216
Unfortunately this goes both ways though. Feminism hurts everyone t b h, women are too afraid to even leave their houses in fear of the boogey man rapist.
Took me years to shred that toxic mentality of being afraid of my own shadow.
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>>17564767
You should probably kill yourself.
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>>17565263
What is dead may never die
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>>17565216
>>17565222

She'd need to sign a document, with our lawyers present, and an unbiased, objective witness paid for in part by both parties, before engaging in any physical contact whatsoever.

If she so much as pats me on the back without signing the necessary paperwork, I'm filing for sexual harrassment.

Look, it's like we're america, and feminists are the filthy nips. This wars gonna keep going on until one of us takes this shit to the extreme, presses the metaphorical red button and fucks everyone up a minute, making people go "yeah, lets stop this shit".
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>>17564826
Damn anon, that fucking sucks
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>>17565282
Idk man, sounds to me like men have all the power to stop this. Think about it, the government is still heavily male populated. There are 20 women out of the 535 US senators, and 84 out of the 435 House of Reps.
If you fuckers weren't actually upholding and putting the bullshit feminist laws into effect we wouldn't have this issue. It'd just be a bunch of women complaining with no legal backing or consequences.
If the male reps weren't voting on this shit it would never get passed.
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>>17565365
>women don't make up 50% of the electorate
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>>17565374
>Actually believing your vote as a citizen matters.
>Implying all females actually drink the kool aid even if it did
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>>17564291

No.
Guys still ask girls out.

Maybe your just ugly?
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>>17565374
Catch up on your school house rock kid. House, Senate, and Prezzo are the ones that decide if a bill becomes a law.
If Feminist Jane proposes a bill that states all men must be castrated because all men are rapists, the house has to decide "Yeah that bill sounds good" and pass it. Then the Senate has to go "Yup all men are rapists". Then the president has to sign it into law and schedule his appointment to get his dick cut off.
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>>17565396
Catch up on your school retard
The electorate elect senators and representatives.
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>>17564291

The world that 4channers and internet-brainwashed 20 somethings live in is not the world that the rest of us live in.

In the real world there are plenty of dumb guys, plenty of smart guys, plenty of dumb girls and plenty of smart girls like there has and always will be.

People who live on the internet are incapable of navigating the world so they create invisible forces and societal movements that are controlling their fates as an excuse for their ineptitude. They can't operate without first throwing on a cloak of victimhood, whether it be the anti-feminist manbabies or the ultra-radical social justice warriors. They're all the same. They've been around long before the internet but all the 4channers and tumblerites think its a new thing because its the first time they've been able to communicate with each other but the truth is that ultra obnoxious feminists and ignorant male traditionalists have been spewing their toxic bullshit since the 60's.

All kids want to do these days is complain about how the deck is stacked against them when in reality the majority of the working adult world doesn't care about 90% of the things they claim are ruining society. Society hasn't changed, adolescents' willingness to accept failure as a learning experience has.

The world continues as usual with the same percentage of reasonable people it always has while here on the internet the kiddies fight a made up war that literally no one else knows or gives a shit about.
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>>17564826

>That is the world we live in now, and that is why guys like myself are afraid to be assertive.

Its not the world's fault that you're a pushover who hooks up with drunk psychos at parties.

The world can't be at fault for every one of your strokes of bad luck and plain old personal flaws.

This is whats wrong with the world; not the world, just kids like you that blame every last bad thing that happens to them on the world and absolutely refuses to analyze their own behavior as the source of any of their woes.

Is it the world's fault that psychotic women still exist (like they have for thousands of years) or is it your fault that you're so desperate for sex that you're too fucking dumb to spot them?

I think its the latter.
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>>17565401
yeah, and they're electing men as fucking senators you idiot that was my whole fucking point.
Men are the ones who are making the decisions and laws moron. Apparently you men like to be subjected to this bullshit, otherwise the female electorate would only be voting for female representatives.
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>>17565401
If that's the case then women simply don't vote, since we've had a conservative majority in either House or Senate for decades. And even if one side gets a majority in both House/Senate, and an elected president, the system is still rigged so the majority can be stopped by minority forces.
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>>17565425

Honestly I needed to hear that shit. I'll admit I'm mostly just mad because I feel trapped and fucked. Like this situation will hang over my head forever. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I'm so fucked. Thanks anon
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>>17565427
>all men hold anti feminist views

Retard
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>>17565719
Were you not the same one implying all women hold feminist views?

Anyway, still supports my point. There are "feminist men" therefore there are men supporting the ridiculous feminist laws? Therefore men are a large part of the issue in the fact that the laws are the way they are, where you can get slammed for rape over the slightest error?
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>>17564852
>Every girl on the whole earth doesn't go to secrete meetings where we all discuss dudes we rejected and forbid everyone else from seeing
That's not the fucking point you cowardly slut too afraid to approach a guy. The point is the fear of others seeing it happen. Humans haven't evolved to understand, instinctively, how large the society of "earth" is. We evolved for the most part in small tribes. Your interaction with one is known by all. You aren't getting the impression I'm trying to give you when I speak of this subject in evolutionary terms, you dense cunt.

>implying I'm tweedling my mustache waiting to "invalidate" every man on earth muhahaha.
Look you fat whore, it's not about what YOU feel when the OTHER GUY is the one approaching. Fucking dumb as fuck, you deserve to be alone. The other guy is the one feeling the fear of not being accepted. NOT YOU.

>looks like the thing
Well, well, now who's projecting? Just because you're fat, everyone else is ugly too? Bitch, I'm in the military. Even though I have a nice cushy, air conditioned desk job, we ALL have to maintain a certain level of physical fitness and health. I'm 170lbs with a 28 inch waistline. I OHP 135, Bench 215 (almost 2plate), Squat 315 (3plate exactly), and deadlift 385 (getting close to 4 plate). I workout 5 days a week, and I'm sure your fat ugly, cowardly ass probably has no idea what I was even talking about just now.

Get fukt you fat cunt. I was giving you insight to a subject I know intimately since even though I have a decent body and military bearing I still used to have it, and still you write it off. I cast pearls before fat, cowardly swine.

Pic is me.
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>>17565741
nice 4 pack brah where do you get your roids
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>>17565741
yeesh lol.
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>>17564291
The whole dating game thing is about as new as it gets to human psyche and people are still coping with the independence of women.

100 years ago there was no dating game, nevermind the millennia before that. You wanted to marry a girl, you asked her father before you asked her. She said yes and then learned to love you, it wasn't a pre-requisite.

So it's a bit of that, a bit of men having no idea how to present themselves as confident, attractive people in light of the apprenticeship system dropping in favour of impersonal curriculum and that the best advice that most idiots have is "be yourself", a bit of both men and women coming up with arbitrary and counterintuitive "rules" to dating in light of this new societal structure, and so on and so forth.

So I wouldn't say that the human race, or even the first world is doomed or anything. With the Information Age individuals can sculpt themselves physically and mentally into who they want to be rather easily. There's just an adjustment period of confused, emasculated men, and it's going to last a long time.
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>>17565745
>roids
>Like they don't randomly drug test us all the time
Thanks for the compliment. If you ever stepped in a gym, you know being accused of roids is the highest of compliments. You just told me I'm to good to naturally be human.

P.S. Learn to count =]
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>>17565754
Very witty comeback.

You stay mad, I'll stay shredded.
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>>17565505
Good luck man
I've always been able to tell which chicks are bad news and have always avoided them like the plague. Some my mates just don't have that skill and get fucked over again and again. I really don't know what it is that I read in people that I know they're bad news but some people are just oblivious to it
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>LoL this thread
>people getting triggered
welcom to 4chan

btw, always surprised to find actual girls lurking in here,
but to answer to the main subject:

Yes guys are being pussies, this comes from decades of social conditioning evolving to what we have now, which is basically teaching young males, that to be attractive, you need to be white, pretty, fit, have money and a fast car...
this social conditioning comes from all sorts of media, like romance and chick flicks, basically the guy thinks he needs to buy flowers and be the perfect gentleman, and boombox in front of your window at night to win your heart

when in practicality, none of these things are actually what makes a man attractive, of course being pretty and fit sure do help, but what is really missing is teaching guys to behave like actual man!
and sure the anti-"rape culture" campaign may have something to do with it, but I believe its completely unrelated actual rape and man taking action, rape is still rape no matter what...
(even though we can get some gray area stuff like other anon already posted here)
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>>17564809
>>17564836
What this this boils down to, for me, is a really elaborate excuse for not just asking somebody out.
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>>17564686
This is a joke, right? You're not actually promoting a character that is a satire of what you're trying to convey?
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>>17564860
>.faggets all of u
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>>17564732
>Xavier: Renegade Angel Wojack
wat
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>>17565780
Hey man, I'm jumping in now, I haven't spoken to you before in this thread.

But you expect me to believe that's you, AND that you can't bench 2pl8? Nigga, I can bench 2pl8, and I don't even lift anymore.
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>>17564291
not worth the trouble because of child support,false rape charges,cheating, time/money spending, paternity fraud risk, STD risk, and public humiliation. Also many of you are lazy,don't know how to cook, don't want to clean, have college dept,are single mothers,can't keep your legs close and have a useless degree.
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>>17565809
and just to sum up on comment above:
I had this girl in my uni who gave me some pretty direct eye invitations, I didn't act atm, but when I finally came over to talk to her she pretty much just snuffed
given I was in a relationship (just broke up this week)
but its completely normal for a guy to act, maybe he is not interested, maybe he can't or he can just plainly not want to
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>>17565365
you forgot that most of the voters are women so politicians have to panther to women.
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>>17565888
The populations 50/50 mate. If men aren't voting its still their fault. And again, not all women subscribe to the cult. I don't. So I'm not voting for the feminist pandering shits.
And they have to pretend to care about women, that doesnt mean they have to actually pass their stupid laws. If they do it just goes to show they don't actually care about themselves or their kind.
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>>17565937
>If men aren't voting its still their fault

women are just as guilty because they have the power to change things but they don't want to change it because they know they will lose their benefits. if they voted to take things like child support and alimony away the women will lose their power to take resources away from men.

>So I'm not voting for the feminist pandering shits.

but the rest are and they are hurting men in the process.
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>>17565980
Again, if men would fucking vote it wouldn't be a problem. You aren't voting, so the feminist create the majority. If all the fucking men would vote in their own best interest, the feminists would lose every time. But yall cant get off your asses and vote. You only have yourselves to blame. You have all the power, you just choose not to use it.
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nope just fucking tired of being blamed.
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>>17564459
What do you mean fighting and winning? Who died for female suffrage? They literally just asked for it, and were given it. It was more of a struggle for the suffragettes convince other women that they should ask for the right to vote than it was to convince men to extend it to them.

And the same can be said said about most any other feminist issue as well.
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Hugh Mungus gets harassed, screamed at, and publicly accused of sexual harassment because he made a fat joke about himself. If this is how women behave, why would men want to speak to them?
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>>17564291
this post is very feminine.
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>>17566269
Op here.
This is my second post and it looks like my thread became a battlefield, but I've got my answer.
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>>17565152
>being a man means paying
no it doesn't. being man means not giving a shit about little bitches like you.
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>>17564490
not really you virgin
t. yuropoor
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>>17564291
I read somewhere that only a clear, enthusiastic yes is consent for sex with a woman. Ha! If that's true, I have NEVER had consent in about a dozen sexual experiences. Women always have to have plausible deniability. They never just say what they want regarding sex.
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>>17565410
Man, it's really a fucking great post. HAVE a (you)
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>>17567692
Let's all love Lain.
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>>17564291

neither

they just think you are obnoxious slut
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Man, I got into this thread all late.

My question is, what if the guy is damaged goods? Abuse happens everywhere, and so does tragedy. Are guys supposed to just take it all in stride and act like nothing happened?

I've been cheated on, lost a kid, lost my mom, had to watch my best friend and sister date behind my back, been molested and physically abused as a child and I'm only 24. This is just example, as I've known people with even worse stories.
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>>17564291
If you aren't crystal clear, I'm not going to even bother you dumb whore because I'm probably not that interested in you.

There are three categories for me:

1. I'm interested and I'm going to make a move whether you signal or not.
2. I don't see anything that interests me but if you make a clear move, I'll give it a shot.
3. I'm not interested and nothing you do will change that.

Fuck off with your subtle signals. Try telling someone you want to buy a purse by telling them it looks really nice and see if they actually ring it up for you retard.
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>>17564291
If it really is the man's job to do the approach and formal date invitation after receiving signals of interest, then its the woman's job to master her signals and learn how to correctly convey interest. They need to learn how their end of the game works, and they need to accept the harsh reality that if a guy has not made a move, it's possible he's just not interested. Not that he's a dumbass or a pussy, but that not every guy wants your vagina by default. Surprising, I know.

Also understand that if you flirt with a lot of men, the men you might've caught with interest will get turned off, because they think either you are kinda promiscuous or that you just flirt casually with everyone without meaning anything.

It's not going to kill you to actually ask a dude out either, or be more forward about it.

And of course, you need to be consistent with your interest. Playing hard to get doesn't work very well, and guys are not as interested in the chase as you think they are, assuming they are looking for something serious and not just flings and fun.

>inb4 it's his job to MAN UP! and decipher my particular code
No. It's your job to fix it because it's your problem if you think guys are oblivious to you.
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>>17564936
>>17564951
Don't listen to this retard. If you're worth it and they're worth it, they'll wait. Eventually, you will have to do something like handjobs or blowjobs but sex can wait.

My last gf was a virgin and we dated for two years. It wasn't until our lust was literally about to get us into trouble that we decided to start with hj and bjs. It didn't work out for us but she's still a virgin and that never bothered me one bit.
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>>17565365
There's a concept among judges that goes like this "Hard cases make bad laws."

The reason are laws are so shit are twofold:

1. Publicly elected officials don't want to get their ass chewed out by a bunch of dumb voters who literally have no idea what they're talking about so these officials often act according to what the voter would believe is correct from a purely reactionist point of view.
2. A really shitty case occurs where someone gets fucked over beyond belief and the law technically doesn't cover that area so the perp walks out clean. This causes said officials to make a shit law that applies in .00001% of cases but fucks over the entire population. Judges also make shit calls sometimes because of these cases and if there is no specific law addressing the issue and they aren't overturned, their ruling becomes law through precedent.

Really the people who have the power to stop this are voters but most of them are retarded and the women are especially retarded so none of this is going to change anytime soon.
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