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Help me understand something /adv/isors. I got a few coworkers

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Help me understand something /adv/isors.

I got a few coworkers who are submissive men. They actually enjoy being treated like shit by women, lied to, and humiliated. I never got it what broke on these people. I get submissive women because they usually get spoiled and taken care of in exchange. These men however don't get anything out of it other than being treated like literal shit, which I don't find arousing at all and throwing yourself under the bus for female attention is just crazy.

What makes submissive men tick?
Are all of them self hating and crazy?
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>>17359501

In the bedroom it allows you to lose control and not be responsible.

Outside of the bedroom, fucked if I know. You should realise that people transfer money to women they don't know, the women usually call themselves a findom or findomme or whatever, for financial domination. It boggles my mind.
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>>17359501
its deeply rooted op. from childhood most likely. not everyone is like that but some people are.

or you know, they developed the fetish.
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>>17359501

>I took what little I see of my coworkers at work and foolishly extrapolated that into thinking I know who they are as people. When my extrapolation seemed at odds with what a reasonable person is like, the thought that I might be largely wrong about who they are *never even entered into my mind,* and instead I came here to make a post about them and put them down, because *I* sure am not a submissive man. No way!

You're a real winner, OP.
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>>17359512
If I don't want to be in control, I lay back and get my cock sucked. Being treated like shit won't give me any good feelings or trust to let it happen and enjoy it.
Again, I understand women because most men adore a submissive girl, but women usually only do it for a power trip or money and has zero respect for a sub. They are not the kind of person I want to make myself vulnerable to. Findom is crazy too. Paying for sex is one thing, paying for being denied of it is next level crazy.
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>>17359535
>muh projections
We grabbed some beer and they talked about it in detail. They were drooling to things that are just self destructive.
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>>17359501
>What makes submissive men tick?
I believe it is due to different factors.
Some may like it and have developed a fetish.
Some grew up around dominant females and grew accustomed to it.
Some have low confidence and find it liberating to be used.
Some have stressful always-in-charge jobs and find it pleasurable to not be in charge for once. Kind of a liberating when someone else call the shots + the added bonus of being sexually pleased.
Some like to serve women because they see them as higher beings.
As you said, some women get spoiled and taken cared of. It's also reversible. Mommy issues kind of a deal.
Some got thought women are lowlifes/always submissive and may find it extremely sexy if they get put on a pedestal since it goes against everything they were thought. Adds a taboo-element to it.

>Are all of them self-hating and crazy?
No? Some are, certainly. Just like some women are. Understand that life is not black and white but rather a huge greyscale. You do not necessarily have to agree with their methods/likes, but instead except it and move on.
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>>17359501
> These men however don't get anything out of it other than being treated like literal shit

Is this what they told you themselves?
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>>17359543
accept* not except..

English is not my first language...
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>>17359546
Have to agree with this one.
Why didn't you ask them why they liked it? They could've given you all the answers right then and there.
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>>17359542

So you talked about it in detail and still don't understand it. Did you maybe ask them about the things you didn't understand?

Basically the reason I'm giving you shit right now is that you're telling us this tale that really only illustrates how the world is more complicated than you thought it was, and yet your reaction to that is to scoff and be dismissive. But man, that is the absolute worst way to go through life. When you take people you don't understand and file them away in the "broken or crazy" folder in your head, it's *you* that you're hurting. It's pitiful and it makes me feel sorry for you. You're going to miss everything cool and die angry.
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>>17359561
I asked them some, but I didn't want to go in detail because I saw we were very different. They answered the questions I asked in ways that made me think they just have zero self worth. In my experience having no self worth is what leads to missing everything cool and dying in agony.
I'm not angry, I find my life quite full actually.
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>>17359568
You say that now, but when I come over to your place and fuck you in the amazon position you realize what you missed out on.
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>>17359551
I did, they just told me they liked to be humiliated, and ordered around, which is fine, save for public humiliation, but being reckless and unsafe about it is crazy.
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>>17359577
Didn't get hard from the mental picture at all.
Tell me, why should I be aroused?
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>>17359568
>I find my life quite full actually

When you saw that you were very different than someone else, your instinct was to stop asking questions. Buddy, how would you know what a full life looks like?
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>>17359501
single man hating mothers emasculate their own sons
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>>17359581
Because you get to lay back as a king as I fuck myself on your cock~

But then again if you are the "dominant alpha male" then go ahead and fuck the submissive women who won't talk back. Just admit you like a little fiesty girl so you can spank her good.

Jokes aside, why do you think there is a difference between submissive men and submissive women? Because society tells the man to be dominant so it must be something wrong with them to want to be submissive?
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tfw not submissive at all except for being teased and denied i.e. a girl having you jerk off to her legs/feet but showing no actual nudity and not touching you

i want to get rid of this fetish
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>>17359608
What caused you to like it to begin with?
Why do you enjoy it?
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>>17359501

It's because men in this society have been castrated and feminized by the progressive, feminist dominated culture. What do you expect when from birth they are taught to be pussies by everything in the culture?

Competition is bad, masculinity is bad, being white is bad, being normal is bad. They have been brainwashed into a slave mentality.
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>>17359608
i think it's because when I was younger my older sister would walk around the house in her underwear a lot. I think she did it deliberately. Several times she'd just have a tight tshirt on and panties and she'd just walk up to me and ask some stupid ass question and It was obvious she knew I could see her pussy lips through the thin fabric. Me being a horny kid my eyes would conspicuously wander around her crotch and nipples and I'd stutter and sweat and she'd just stand there. I wanted to see her naked but never got to. She made sure not to let me see too much. As for the feet thing, I just like them and I don't mind it.

how do I get rid of this tease&denial crap though. It's a stupid fantasy and if a girl treated me like that irl I'd just feel disrespected.
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>>17359624
>>17359620
quoted wrong post
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>>17359624
it gets me hard like nothing else though. I'm trying to quit porn cold turkey right now and I've limited masturbating to once a week. I relapsed yesterday after 6 days, I really need to get busy.
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>>17359594
I'm not full bull dom, but I'm on the dominant side, yes. Maybe I'm not really fond of girl on top because I never had a fit gf who had real endurance so I could just sit back. What I don't get us the humiliation aspect.

>difference between a submissive men and women
>>17359539
Also, men treat women much less expendable and can really respect a sub. Women I know find submissive men pathetic. I don't get what's good in giving up control and making yourself vulnerable to someone who dosen't respect you and finds you pathetic.
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>>17359624
>if a girl treated me like that irl I'd just feel disrespected

No, you'd probably feel disrespected and aroused, just like you did when your sister was a cock tease with you.

On weekends my sister used to wear an oversized T-shirt and nothing underneath, and she'd sit or lie down in ways that made part of her pussy visible. Then she'd wait to catch me looking and call me a perv. She was such a tease. There were times I actually wanted to fuck her, I was so frustrated and aroused.
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>>17359633
>Women I know find submissive men pathetic.

There are some women you don't know, though, anon.
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>>17359635
i didn't feel disrespected at the time. I was a dumb horny kid with no self esteem who was just happy to see some girl skin.

I don't think I'd be able to tolerate a relationship like that at this point in my life. It just screams issues. I like to be in control of my life.
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>>17359622
>Competition is bad, masculinity is bad, being white is bad, being normal is bad.
Being white can be bad, but mostly it is just boring.

>>17359631
Relapse is normal. The key is to get right back on the wagon.
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>>17359638
Never wanted to generalise, that's why I started this thread, that maybe I can get responses from people with different viewpoints possibly like the women you mentioned who could actually like, respect, and stand by a submissive man.
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>>17359640
I mean it's cool when a nameless picture with captions denies you, but IRL it just disgusts me to such point that it overwhelms the arousal. I don't like it, my dick still does though. I don't want to talk to women who are like that. Submissive girls are cute, but I wish they'd make me as erect as the opposite.

I guess I'm more okay with the teasing part, it's sexy when a woman confidently knows how to turn you on. It can't end with denial, though.
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>>17359648
>I don't like it, my dick still does though.

I think a whole other kind of denial is going on here.
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>>17359648
>I guess I'm more okay with the teasing part, it's sexy when a woman confidently knows how to turn you on. It can't end with denial, though.

Different anon, but what's the problem then? Why be rid of it? If you're fantasizing it only ends in denial if you choose it. If it's with a partner, just tell them you like teasing as a part of foreplay, as in leading up to sex, not just by itself or as orgasm denial or whatever.
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>>17359501
i find myself pretty submissive as you describe, i have no self worth, i hate myself. And for me its very hard to be dominant in any area of life let alone the bedroom,
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>>17359683
Why don't you work on your self worth instead of being self destructive.
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