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>>17355379

the truth is most of them arent actually contemplating suicide.

people live in a very extreme world, and unless someone is threatening to kill themselves, no one will take them seriously, or at the very least, these people dont THINK anyone will take them seriously.

you're not valid unless you are the biggest and best at what you are doing, even depression.

most people arent actually suicidal. they are sad.

>>17355386
The first part of your message may be true, but "you're not valid unless you are the biggest and best"? That is exactly the reason people continue to go to extremes. It isn't fair to say that, everyone is valid. People just need to stop ranking others on how sad or angry they are in comparison to someone else. Everyone who feels something is valid and should be acknowledged.
And although some people may just say they feel that way, they should still be treated how anyone else who actually is suicidal would be, because they still require guidance.

>>17355409

>thats exactly the reason people continue to go to extremes
>it isn't fair to say that

thats what im saying. when i say 'you're not valid...' i am referencing the mindset of others, not what i believe the reality is or should be.

>>17355418
Oh good.

>>17355386
You are wrong. People definitely contemplate suicide - I did for quite a long time when I was young before I finally got help.

From how, to where and when, it was a serious consideration for me. Am I glad I didn't? Fuck yes. But that doesn't mean I wasn't on the edge and ready to jump. Depression seriously fucks with your mental state.

The best thing to do is convince depressed people to get professional help. I am not convinced I would have recovered without it.