ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

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>>17320170
This thread is gay and so are you

If a girl starts making her messages shorter, does that mean she's losing interest?

>>17320194
no, that means she is making her messages shorter.

>>17320194
It could also mean that she's distracted or you're boring her

>>17320200

I'm shit with conversation. Trying to get to know a girl is impossible because if feels like they give you so little to work with and except a lot in return. I dunno, maybe that's just the few I've talked to.

>>17320210

Expect*

Ladies, please answer this poll.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10657546

>>17320210
Then you're probably boring her. It says a lot that you say you're shit with conversation then shift the blame onto girls though. It indicates that you're either unable to accept your own failures, or that you haven't met girls you really click with.

Guy here, How do I successfully kiss someone? As in a full make out session, I've never kissed anyone and I've heard stories of girls completely abandoning dates because of their kiss. And I'm afraid that I'll just end up slobbering or something stupid, I have no idea what to do when the time comes.

Went on one kinda-date with a guy, it was really nice and it felt like something could happen, but now I'm feeling all infatuated and pathetic. He's really busy for the next few months and I on the contrary have a ton of spare time. I guess I feel bad because he's going to be so busy that we won't get to hang out again for some time and then the spark fades or whatever, but I really don't want to smother him and be annoying. I guess this is more venting than a question

>another post that I didnt want to create a new thread

Should I be worried that my friends used to always text me if I wanted to hang out and now I have to text them before they respond?


sorry repeat

Bumping my question from earlier this week:
So, my girlfriend and I really like each other, we've gone to bed a few times, but I'm not sure how to get her to climax, she says that rubbing her clit is too much stimulation, but that it does feel good,
> INB4 the boobs, man!
She has fibrocystic breasts.
> INB4 How does she get herself off?
No clue, and it's a weird question to ask.

>>17320261
>it's a weird question to ask
It's not

Link to last thread?

>>17320281
Look it up in the catalog or archive.

>>17316799
Just wanted to quote this >>17320055

>>17320261
First and foremost, you should realize that for many women climaxing because of penetration is rare or physically impossible. You have to know what "type" she is before you can tell whether you're mostly still learning how she's wired, or it's just not there and you should not see it as a relevant goal.

Having said that, typical things that help are going down on her before penetration, a specific position (many women find woman on top easy because they can control the speed when they are close, but some positions also just penetrate the g-spot better than others, google this) and yeah the fingering during sex but it seems like that one's out.

The other responding anon was right, though. Of course it's not the easiest thing to ask and you should already be comfortable talking about sex before approaching masturbation, but being able to talk about sex like adults is a huge part of a healthy sex life.

>>17320234
It's not hard, most guys fuck up because they are too rough, use too much tongue and/or blindly try techniques without keeping a check on whether she responds and seems into it.

The basis is;
>keep your lips relaxed, otherwise they won't feel soft
>slowly press yours on hers, very gently suck/inhale on her lips so it gives a latch-like feeling (you can practice on your finger how much feels pleasant, you're not going for a hickey here)
>mix it up a little bit - so a quick sweet peck followed by a passionate, more loose lipped smooch
>take little breaks (or one little break if this is just "foreplay" for tongue kissing) where you look into her eyes and smile, nuzzle a bit closer to her, adjust your hands to hold her more firmly or closely

If you have done this, you've already done better than approximately 75% of the drunk kissing guys out there. The making out isn't that hard either but I would recommend letting her take the lead a bit. Not all women enjoy tonguey kisses and the most common complaint is that the guy went further or more enthusiastic with that than they wanted, so adjust how much tongue you slip them according to what they start with.

>>17320320
Thanks for the details, sounds easy enough,

>>17320360
It really is. The most common fuck up (guilty myself) is wanting to get your first kiss so right that you eagerly start doing what you think is making out. Chances are your partner will be more experienced so especially for the tongue action (and what people exactly like to do when they're frenching also differs) you're better off mirroring her than trying to take the lead right away. But good luck, I'm sure you'll do fine, even just taking note of her responses and wanting to do well make a huge difference.

>>17320298
The first part was already known, Penetration isn't what gets many women off, I'm not sure what you mean by "what type" though.

>>17320423
As in, if she's never experienced an orgasm with a man, strive towards having the most enjoyable possible sex without trying to "crack her code". If she has, then you can figure out what gets her over the edge, and the most efficient way is indeed to ask her.

Guys and girls

What's the best way I can avoid thinking about girls/sex? I'm trying to block the thoughts of both of those things completely. But it's difficult

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How do women feel about prostitution/escorts/hookers ect?

>>17320437
Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day

>>17320437
Why would you want to?

>>17320440
Largely quite negative. It's typically seen as both a sign that you were desperate and couldn't get a normal girl, and there's the general sleaze associated with prostitution.

>>17320440
Don't care about the prostitutes themselves, but I don't think positively of the men who use them.

>>17320261
>INB4 How does she get herself off?
>No clue, and it's a weird question to ask.

Wat. That's not only totally normal, but pretty essential. There's no way either of you can expect for you to get her off if she doesn't even know herself or doesn't tell you how.

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>>17320442
So I guess we can't count on you to fap to Thatcher-chan and help save England?

>>17320223
And there's the rub: how can anyone really tell whether conversations are difficult because the 2 people involved don't really click or because one or both of them are "bad" at conversing?

>>17320258
No. You should be worried when they stop responding.

>>17320440
I would never be one, be with a man who has used one, was one himself, or would even consider either.

I wouldn't even be with a guy who would say he's be okay with dating/marrying a girl who was a former prostitute.

>>17320243
Give him his space but don't show disinterest either. Message him and at least make plans for the time that he does have off.

>>17320446

Because i choose to not talk to girls or try to have sex. I don't see a point. I don't want to get married, and with me being 26 years old, I'm worried I'll get too attached to a girlfriend and fuck myself over. so im trying to avoid all of it completely

>>17320468
>how can anyone really tell whether conversations are difficult because the 2 people involved don't really click or because one or both of them are "bad" at conversing?
I can't answer that without seeing the conversation

>>17320481
But I've mostly been the one initiating things/texting first, I feel like I should hold off and let him text first right?

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>>17320469

Is this because of morals? Where are you from? I ask because this doesn't seem to be an issue for South East Asia males or females.

Met two girls at a party. Had fun talking to both and got their number's. How do I decide which one to pursue?

>>17320440
Probably wouldn't get with a guy who has slept with a hooker.

>>17320437
Jack off to the point of disgust. Work yourself up to 4 times a day.
Also raise your standards as high as you can. Find nothing under a 10/10 attractive and get into some realistically impossible fetishes (ie. Tentacle porn, aliens, large knees, etc)
It's essentially desensitizing yourself to regular sex and women. You'll see a 9/10 and see her as nothing but an opportunity. The urge will no longer be there. Just overload your senses to the point where masturbation won't even be enough. Do be careful because a pedophile mentality might arise out of you through this.

Gonna cam with my wife for the first time in years, was just curious if women find it at all appealing when men just zoom in on their junk and wank, like.. What else could I do?

>>17320511
Yes, it would mean our morals and values regarding sex are way too different. I'm for the US.

>>17320525
She probably wants to see your whole body and face. Maybe dirty talk her too. Tell her what to do, tell her what you love about her and how much you love it.

>>17320533
Whoops this is for >>17320520

>>17320520
No no no no no. What you should do is tease her, talk dirty. Start fully dressed. You want her to have thought about your cock before you take it out. When things are getting a bit steamy with the dirty talk, that's when you start adjusting your pants a bit, showing some discomfort, ultimately groping your erection and telling her how hard she's making you, what you want to do to her.
When you do start wanking, don't zoom in. Try to make some noise. Edge yourself if you enjoy that.

>>17320214
>those votes for fat guy
disgusting, shit taste imho

>>17320514
If you're dumb enough to let us decide, go ask /b/ instead
Post both of them and say dubs decides

>>17320533
>>17320540

Awesome, so essentially phone sex with video. Think I can do that, thanks.

>>17320546
>2016
>still not learning

>>17320510
Well give him his space as i said. Make it feel like you are catching up with him instead of simple conversation. Give him 2 or 3 weeks and if he doesn't message you in that time, then you can send him something like "hey anon, it's been a while and i wanted to know how you're doing :)"
Then you can tell him some funny/interesting things you did in the 3 weeks and he should do the same.
Make the time that you two won't be seeing each other worth something. Use it to build that tension and mystery. You'll make him miss you more.
Maybe after 2 weeks of not texting him he'll start assuming that you aren't interested anymore but once you text him again and show interest again, the feeling of attraction to you will grow and he'll become more enthusiastic towards your relationship.

>>17320550
Yes, pretty much, enjoy!

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>>17320459
>save England

>>17320514
What's stopping you from talking to both?
You won't know which one you will click with more unless you talk to them.

>>17320459
I have seen into the abyss, and it stared back into me

Girls
The guy u went on dates with also went out with different girls. Is there any chance he could redeem himself, or should he just drop it?

>>17320576
>"Ya just hold that position"
>"No no don't move, let me put you back"
>"Stay there, look at the screen, no not the camera look at the screen, keep holding the tissue"
>"Ya like that, just rub the screen now"
>"#LookAtMyBaby She saw him crying and instantly grabbed a tissue to try and rub his tears, she's so sweet like that."

>>17320602
What, like he dated other girls in his lifetime?

How do girls feel about guys over 20 with dental braces?

>>17320615
><random insecurity>
Some do, some don't. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>>17320613
No, he was hooking up with u and at the same time went out with other girls. He didn't focus only on you, but rather split his time to see who's the best match without telling any of the girls.

>>17320624
I wouldn't be interested in a guy like that. Even if we weren't exclusive, I feel like it's disrespectful to 'keep your options open' like that, and I'd be concerned that I wasn't his first choice and he was only settling. I mean, how would you feel if the tables were turned?

>>17320638
Well, gotta reap what i sow then.

>be interested in girl
>reads and writes romance stories all the time, but can't stand the idea in real life
>keeps me involved and close as much as she can
>shoots me down whenever I ask her out and mostly doesn't reciprocate when I make a move
>she just asked me out
Am I awaited in Valhalla?

>>17320663
Wut

>>17320663
Her plans A, B, C, D, E, F,... all fell through and you're next on her list of beta orbiters.

>>17320664
SHE WUTTED ME

I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLA

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>>17320576
>>17320591
Go on, lads, give Thatcher-chan your milk

How do girls feel when they find out a guy masturbates?

>>17320685
Isn't it just assumed?

Girls
What's the biggest "turn-off" character trait a guy can have?

>>17320689
Idk, I'm a boy

>>17320693
I think everyone just assumes almost all guys and most girls masturbate

>>17320692
Maybe dishonesty.

>>17320701
Okay, so what if a guy is "too honest"? For example, he always speaks up his mind without caring how other people would feel/react to it?

>>17320697
I think the only people who don't assume this are religious people.

>>17320704
Of course social intelligence and tact are important, but straight up dishonesty, especially to your partner, is the worst.

My dad would always lie to my mom and even tell my brother and I to lie to prevent him from "getting in trouble" with her, and that really rubbed me the wrong way. It's just incredibly manipulative and cowardly.

>>17320704
You keep him.
Those are the men that are the least likely to cheat.

>>17320712
Okay, i see your point now. Glad you could answer, and i'm sorry you had to deal with that stuff.

>>17320713
Not that anon, but I'm like that, and girls hate it.

Girls, where would you say the line between "loyal" and "lost puppy" is?

>>17320718
That anon, i'm the same and was surprised i saw that answer, since i have very different experiences.

>>17320724
They're not opposite ends of the same spectrum, they're two completely different things. Assuming I'm interpreting what you mean by 'lost puppy' correctly

>>17320718
Not that anon, but there's a difference between being honest and being plain. It doesn't matter how honest you are about the things you do if there's nothing you do whatsoever. Somethingsomething times zero is still zero.

>>17320724
A lost puppy is clingy
A loyal person doesn't cheat on you and trusts you. The loyal person will let you go somewhere by themselves while a lost puppy will follow you.

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Contact a girl again with whom you've been on some dates a year ago y/n?

No contact since but we had originally already made loose plans for another date location.

>>17320733
You have me completely mispegged, but that's okay.

>>17320718
>>17320731
I think it's a good trait but there has be some discretion as well. You can't go in on the first date and tell the girl she looks ugly and point out her flaws.
There's a difference between being smart+honest and being an asshole. You have to make her respect your honesty first and work yourself up to being the asshole you want to be.

Do girls really want to get raped or not?

>>17320734
>A loyal person trusts you
>The loyal person will let you go somewhere by themselves

Translation: "A guy is clingy if he doesn't let you be a whore."

Cunt.

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>>17320801
Shots fired, shots fired

>>17320519

Thanks for the advice!!

>>17320794
No, they want to get consensually dominated.

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My girlfriend is threatening to leave me over $100 (actually $0). Here's what:

>we went to the casino, I brought 60$, she brought $20
>I lost $40, she lost $20
>I gave her my last $20
>she pressed the button on the slot but I spun it, she was sitting down
>won $100

I offered to split it 60/40, so I regain whatever I lost and she's up $20. I came with $60, leave with $60, she came with $20, leaves with $40. She said it's unfair and she deserves all of it because she was sitting at the machine.

>she was sitting down
>she pressed the button to "bet max"
>it was my money
>it was me who spun the machine

Who the fuck won in this case and why does it even matter? Why is she being so unreasonable?

>>17321114
It doesn't matter, tuck and roll.

>>17321114

She's being a bitch. You're in the right

>>17321114

Sounds like a case for Judge Judy.

>>17321114
What the fuck. I'd either split it or do something together with the 100 bucks.

Is she always this money hungry? Or is there something she really wanted to buy with the 100 bucks?

>>17320437
Goals in life.

>>17321114
>She said it's unfair and she deserves all of it because she was sitting at the machine.
She's right, since she was clearly the one who was playing.

Try to play out the same scenario in your head if she lost, would it be her loss or yours?

>>17320692
A tie between dishonest and self-absorbed.

>>17320685
Normal. Girls fap too. I guess, not all girls. I was just reading some whisper article about girls confessing their feels about their bf's masturbating to porn. Some girls get all kinds of crazy over this stuff. Honestly, for me, as long as it's not cp, loli, beastiality, or extreme hardcore (like rape with fucking branches up a girl's vag), I'm fine with it.

>>17320724
Loyal means like, you're cool about stuff. Ask for honesty and trust his word as such.

Lost puppy is clingy, the need to be constantly reassured, getting upset and lost when bf is out with other people and not you.

A girl from my work asked for my number, and then when I texted her a week later she responded by asking who it was. I promptly removed her from my contacts. Why do women do this?

>>17321152

I try to establish goals, but it's not enough..

>>17321173
Trying to establish them, that's not the same as having goals.

>>17321172
If someone gives me their number through social media, I usually forget to put it in my phone immediately. I do that with everyone tho. And that's just a personal lazy habit I have.

If she got your number in person, there really is no excuse.

>>17321182

How do you just "have goals" without establishing them first?

>>17321223
Well, it was pretty easy for me, although obviously not something that applies to many others.

My point was that "trying" to establish them is stalling, is it really such a long process to decide what you want out of life?

>>17321233

>is it really such a long process to decide what you want out of life?

Yes. I'm 26, and I have no fucking clue.

Girls, how weird is it to initiate contact with someone through social media? Specifically, Instagram DM.

This one girl follows me, likes my posts every now and then. I know that doesn't mean anything necessarily, but I've looked through her page and her IG posts genuinely amuse me. I started reading her twitter one night when I was bored and she seems like someone I could really get down with. I'm not talking about sending her a "hey bby u want some fuck", but maybe just like a friendly compliment? I don't know. She's cute, I'm into her social media profile. That's all. Just curious where it could go from there.

For the record, I've had girls I don't know message me out of the blue on social media before trying to hang out. But I know girls in particular tend to get flooded with horrible messages from dudes, so she may not even check them. Meh.

How do i seal the fucking deal???

I send messages opening up with sexual/flirty lines, get their numbers, and then...fucking nothing. Bitches drop me like i'm fucking hot. I literally had a chick respond with "red rover red rover bend this red head right over" and then once we moved to texting she just stopped responding. I asked if she wanted to meet up and she said "eh, no." What the fuck am I supposed to do? I can't even get thirsty fat bitches to fuck me.

I understand why people become serial killers now. "Be yourself" "Be confident" has gotten me fucking /nothing.. I can't get woman to give me the fucking time of day. I actually want to fucking die at this point. Basically everything i've been told about hooking up/dating ever is a lie.

>>17321249
btw can't wait to get 15 people telling me "it's probably your fault"

>>17321236
Well, you did decide that you don't want to get married or that you won't talk to girls, so you have a vague idea for the future already. All that's left is to find the things you actually want to do/achieve.

>>17321238
Not a girl, but it's not that weird unless you start with some creepy shit. At worst she will just ignore it.

>her IG posts genuinely amuse me
Sounds like a decent basis for a compliment.

>>17321249
>>17321252
So whose fault is it if not yours? Blaming the chicks won't change anything for YOU.

>>17321249

It's probably your fault

>>17321260
>Well, you did decide that you don't want to get married or that you won't talk to girls, so you have a vague idea for the future already. All that's left is to find the things you actually want to do/achieve

There just isn't anything I really want to
Achieve, that's realistic at least..

>>17321264
>Achieve, that's realistic at least..
If you live in a first world country and are somehow average, A LOT is realistic. Most of the bigger stuff is obviously hard and requires luck but most importantly working towards it. Though finding the motivation for that might be even harder.

>There just isn't anything I really want to
Would you be in a prison where you just eat and shit? Probably not.

>>17321210

I just wish I could understand what happened. I asked this girl's friend if she had a boyfriend, turned out she's actually bisexual and she has a girlfriend. Her friend of course told her, and she started getting flirty with me, which I had reacted to shyly. I assumed it was just out of pity or she enjoyed the attention. She talked to me about her girlfriend, and she seemed dissatisfied with their relationship, like they'd be breaking up soon.

She eventually told me I'm cute, later that I'm sexy, etc, and I spilled my spaghetti and said stupid shit like, "that's nice" in response. Completely failed to reciprocate. And it's not like I could just ask her out on a date, she has a girlfriend; I guess there was just some sexual tension between us?

I forgot to mention she's a coworker. So, eventually she ended up getting another job, and at that point she nervously approached me and told me that she'd be leaving this job soon. She then asked for my number, saying that she doesn't want to lose contact with me. I texted her a week later because she wasn't showing up at work, I thought I'd have another two weeks to see her at work because she told me she gave a two week notice. I assumed she had just gotten let go/fired after giving the notice, and so I texted her asking if that was the case to break the ice with her. That's when she responded "who's this?" which fucked with me considering she asked for my number and put it in her phone. It's not like I asked for her number. I had also had previous paranoid suspicions of being fucked with mostly due to my poor self-esteem and subsequent unwillingness to believe that a girl would find me attractive.

I guess it really doesn't matter what happened, because it's over now. I just feel like I was toyed with/played, and I don't want this to affect me negatively and make me even more paranoid with women. I guess it could be any number of things other than her fucking with me?

what do if she suck dick too good?

i dont wanna blow early but damn

>>17321278

The thing is I'm not smart. Im not saying that as a excuse, but I'm really not smart. I've really tried to get smarter. I've put in a shit load of time trying to become smarter, and money too, but I don't think it's something I can do. Which in the end limits me on many things..

>>17321281
Instead you should give us advice by telling us what she does that makes it so good

>>17321323
eye contact and perfect pacing, she really puts in a lot of effort and knows exactly how I like it

how could I avoid exploding early?

>>17321291
What would you consider as "smart"?

Back in school or even now in uni, I never did a thing, opening a textbook was a fucking achievement that happened once a year, while I was surrounded by kids who study a lot, pay for tutors and all that shit, most of them get worse results than me even though they know more about the topics because their learning methods suck or because anxiety. Both factors that got nothing to do with being smart but affect the result just as much. Maybe it's the same for you too.

Besides you don't have to be especially smart to achieve most of the stuff you could achieve, just not completely retarded. It might only be a problem if you aspire something in STEM disciplines but the rest should be doable, if you can motivate yourself. Spending time on it is a factor but not saying much about the effectivity of the methods, which wary from person to person. Money rarely helps when it comes to education, at best it gives the "I can't fuck up now after all the money spent" type of motivation, which can affect you negatively.

Anyway, even if the goal seems unrealistic, focusing on it will have the same effect, at worst you will confirm that you was right.

>>17321360

I can't get a degree. I tried university and had a miserable, miserable time there. I'm not meant for university. Infact, my mother was even shocked that I even tried it, because she knows university is not the best place for me.

It's just depressing that all of the things I want to do require degrees. And I know that's something I can't do..

>>17321394
>all of the things I want to do require degrees
Are you 100% sure about this? What about "close enough to what you want" things with a potential for promotion?

>>17321398

You have to have a degree to be a Airline Pilot, there is no way around that, it's the base requirement.

>>17321414
Isn't that a requirement just for the big commercial airlines/military only? Though obviously getting the job anywhere when competing with college graduates is going to be hard, specially if you stay in US (I take you're Murican)

What about the requirements for a helicopter pilot? You're still getting off the ground after all, and I know a guy who barely passed HS and doing his license now.

>>17321114

You lost $40 fair and square, if you want her to pay you back the $20 you gave her that might be reasonable, but expecting her to recoup your fair losses isn't.

Even expecting her to give you the $20 is unreasonable, but could be a compromise on her part to get you to stop being a fucking baby.

You should have discussed this before willingly GIVING her the money. Would you also demand 60% of her winnings if you'd gifted her a few bucks to buy a burger and she got a prize for being the 1mil customer?

Once you put that money in her hands, unless you said she was only borrowing it, it belonged to her.

If she lost it, you wouldn't demand a portion of her debt, you can't demand a portion of her winnings.

>>17320736
How well is she connected into your social circle? If she isn't then you have nothing to lose.

>>17321114
>I offered to split it 60/40,
Asking to take the bulk of someone's money isn't an 'offer', unless the alternative is taking their thumbs.

>it was my money
It was. Then it was hers once once you gave it to her.

>why does it even matter? Why is she being so unreasonable?
If it doesn't matter, why are you trying to take her money? If it doesn't matter, you should just be shrugging and letting her keep it whether you think it's hers or not. Clearly it DOES matter, and you're the one who's decided that it does.

Instead of just being psyched that one of you finally won something, you've gone and pissed on her parade by getting butthurt and territorial over it. What a chump of a boyfriend, holy shit. The money doesn't fucking matter, get over it, all you've done is spoil a fun night out.

>>17321172

What the fuck is wrong with you? "Why do women do this," do fucking what? Try to confirm the identity of someone who hasn't texted them before?
People lose their contacts all the time.

Women

Are balds unattractive

Guys and girls:

How many friends do you have on Whatsapp? How many do you talk to very regularly and how often are you online?

>>17321734
Male, I have 2 on Whatsapp because I use Skype more; I have like 40 on there but only talk to about 5 or so regularly. I only use Whatsapp for the voice message feature to talk with a friend who is currently partially blind. I keep both on my phone, so I'm effectively always online.

Girls, do you sometimes play dumb to get a guys attention? If so, why?

>>17321172
I think you're really overreacting.

>>17321734
Using Skype instead of Whatsapp because I prefer texting with a keyboard.

Got like 100 people, talking to 3-4 random guys on a weekly basis just to have some kind of company while doing other stuff, with 4 other people (RL gals) like once in a week or two because it's more time intensive and when I get really bored, I hit up some person out of the list.

My online times are pretty irregular, sometimes it's all the time, sometimes it's once a month.

>>17321114
I would hate to have a boyfriend who's this pedantic about money.

>>17321769

Yeah, probably. I can be neurotic as fuck. It doesn't look like anything will be happening between us anyways. This was two weeks ago as well, no messages from her yet. I hope she isn't expecting me to text first, because the ball is in her court so long as she's in a relationship. Maybe she wants to use me as rebound for when she breaks up.

>>17321795
man no healthy relationship was built on ground like that. I'm sure you can find someone who is unattached, neurotic or not; I would just write it off completely

>>17321797
Yeah, I'll try to just forget about her entirely. Plenty of other fish in the sea.

A girl talks to me and laughs at my jokes etc. I start liking her and giving her more attention and she probably notices it and stops talking to me so much and no longer laughs at anything I say. I get rejected by her and after this she talks to me more again and laughs at the things I say. Was she afraid that I would mistake her talking to me and laughing at jokes for her showing interest in me?

I've been dating this women for quite some time now. However, over the course of the last two months and after I made it to the "first base", it feels like she stopped trying. She writes less and any conversations I try to strike up are getting more awkward.
Don't get me wrong, I know that I have to call it a day and move on but I have two questions: How exactly can things get that way, who's the one to blame here? Have any femanons here experienced the same and know more about it? Also, how do I get over it? Should I go all the way (delete her number, FB etc.)? It seems a little weird to me because not only did everything feel right at that time but it also turned out that she's my neighbor and I want to avoid any awkward scenarios. Or should I keep my options open "just in case" (asking the male anons specifically)?

My girlfriend and I agreed to a threesome with the most convincing trap I'd ever seen. At first we were both completely convinced he was a she, then we found out the truth after my girlfriend was sodomized. In the end she liked it, I'm conflicted because he's cute, but it's a dude, and I don't want him stealing my girlfriend.
They both want to fuck me, not each other.
I thought I was straight and now I have no fucking idea what's going on.
The fuck do I do

>girl came over two nights ago
>everything is fine
>really into each other
>make out
>start trying to feel up on her
>pushes me away
Everything seemed fine but no texts since she left. Well I decide hey I fucked up let me text her and apologize for being too forward about the relationship idea. Tells me she's not mad at that, she's mad I was disrespectful of her personal space. Only reason I was forward because last girl I was with complained about me being scared of being sexual. How do I salvage this because I really like her?

She said she wasn't cutting me off but I don't know if she's just saying that. Either gender can help me with this.

>>17321828

Sounds like it. Now that she's formally rejected you, she feels safe to interact with you again now that it's established that they're not signals.

>>17321906
>I thought I was straight
Does it really matter?
You're attracted to this person because of their feminine qualities.
Now, if you wanted to fuck a hairy lumberjack named Brian who's neck's as thick as your waist, I'd probably have some questions, no matter what's going on downstairs. But you want to fuck someone who looks convincingly female, what's gay about that?

>>17321921
I don't know man, maybe you were too forward and misread the situation, but maybe she just changed her mind and is now blaming you for the situation. Either way it doesn't sound like you are super compatible, but without knowing you I obviously can't say that with any certainty. If you really want to salvage the situation I think just leave her alone for a few days, then send her a text asking to hang out somewhere innocuous/public, and play it cool. If she still wants to continue the relationship then just do so at a slower pace, if not be prepared to cut your losses and move on.

>>17321921

It sounds like you just need to communicate better. If your last girlfriend complained that you were too withheld, you could have (and maybe you did) taken steps to engage with her in a way she finds more personally appealing.
The same goes for here, just apologise and (carefully) explain so she knows you're not just naturally a Mr Octopus Hands, and tell+show her that you'll respect her wishes and go as slowly and communicatively as she wants.
Which, for the record, should be the default. It's better to momentarily bore a girl who wants to be 'taken' than to accidentally molest a girl who wants to be asked permission. Not only is it a matter of caution about people's boundaries, but the former is much easier to mend. It's easier to add something extra than to take back a mistake.

None of this is going to be one-size-fits-all, everyone will have different preferences.
It's like cooking a meal. Some people hate spicy food, some cant get enough, some have allergies, some have irrational hatred for things everyone else seems to love. Learning to avoid spicy dishes with someone who hates them makes you much better at cooking for that particular person, but that doesn't mean the specific act of avoiding spicy dishes makes you a better overall chef - it's being able to listen and adapt to feedback of any particular individual that makes you better.

What is it with male bosses who only bully female employees?

>>17321449

>helicopter pilot

The thing is I want to be able to fly a around the world. My friend's dad is a pilot for a airline, and he flys all around the world. It seems awesome.

And yes, for the big airlines is when you need a degree. But the thing is working for the small connection airlines is a shit job. Those pilots work a lot, but have absolutely shit pay and benefits. A new commuter pilot only makes about $18,000/yr. for real. They don't make shit, and they work so fucking much. Usually what happens is they try to suck it up with the small commuter airlines to build hours, and then apply for the big airlines once they have their required hours and a degree

Girls

What sort of tinder openers work on you? Or better what tinder openers are an instant nono

>>17321952
The penis

>Catch up with girl I knew a bit ages ago
>Become friends
>Find out she smokes weed and wants to smoke with me
>Her place is a no go, weed is illegal here and we've only hung out a few times

Is inviting her back to mine going to intimidate her or make her think I have intentions other than friendship? I've been pretty clear on it so far but I do like her company and don't want to weird her out.

>>17321114
I suggest you spend it doing something together, though it may be hard to suggest when you're arguing about it already.

>>17322266
You're both degenerates

Girls

If you were close with a guy, would you forget about his birthday?

Tbh, I've never cared about my birthday, I never celebrate it or expect anything. Today is my birthday, but the one person I was hoping to hear from is her. We haven't talked in a week because she's been busy. But I was at least hoping to hear something from her. so far, nothing. I feel kind of sad Tbh..

>>17322261

>which openers work

Damn girl, are you Muslim? Because you just blew me away

>>17322299
It can happen, but I usually don't forget it

>>17322299
I forgot about my boyfriend's birthday. Twice.
I really love him. I just suck with dates.

>>17322310
>>17322311

Ok. I know she's big about birthdays, because she's done a lot of sweet things for her friends. like one time, she made a ton of paper hearts spelled out "Happy Birthday" and her friends named and put them all over her work before her friend came in the next morning.

We haven't talked in a week, and I was just hoping that she actually cared enough to at least send a thought my way. I've been pretty depressed with life the past few weeks, so I was really hoping to hear something from her. I guess not tho.. :(

>>17322319
Are you sure she knows it's your birthday?

>>17322329

When we skyped a week ago, she said "oh! Your birthday is next week!! You're going to be a old man!" (I'm now 25)

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>>17322342
Oh well. Happy birthday anon.

>>17322355

Thanks I guess.. I'm not really important Tbh, maybe she realized that or something. It's just strange because just a month ago, she said that she feels so happy when we text, and that I make her smile a lot. but now she doesn't talk to me so much anymore, I guess she changed her mind and I'm not important?

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This may call for its own thread but whatever:

Ladies, what kind of stuff are you looking for in a relationship with a "Stoic" man? Why date a guy who is a perfectionist, and spends so much of his time on self-mastery? You know his values are not aligned with yours, and he lets his worldview drive every aspect of his life. Sure, I can see the short-term appeal or even why you may find someone like that attractive. But, are "Dharma and Greg" relationships - lasting ones in particular, real?

>>17322376
I think that it's a kind of relationship that works well if both people are self aware and mature enough to handle their differences well. I find people a bit more "chaotic" than me interesting, they're intellectually stimulating and surprising. Someone more "stoic" brings stability and order to the couple.
I think that most people choose people very similar to them and it exacerbates their own flaws or qualities, while it's important to have someone who compensates you to some degree.

>>17322401
Yeah her obsession is about balance whereas mine is about extremes. I need to get in touch with my spiritual side just as she needs to learn strength of mind. We're both extremely self-conscientious and smart so I do feel as if there is something we'd both gain, and we're both on far ends of the spectrums of society. I guess rare people do attract one another. But it's hard to know what the relationship will be like going in, and what to expect of it since all I have to compare are normie ones, plus I've never dated anyone near her level of uniqueness.

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Girls,
have you ever confessed to a guy you liked a lot even tho he didn't know the first thing about you?
how did it go?

>>17322369
>It's just strange because just a month ago, she said that she feels so happy when we text, and that I make her smile a lot. but now she doesn't talk to me so much anymore, I guess she changed her mind and I'm not important?
Yup. Girls do that.

>>17322496

Oh... :(

>>17322464
I can offer you my personal experience, I hope it's somewhat useful.
I am in a similar situation, but I'm the very rational and logic, "stoic" one and my boyfriend is far more spiritual and emotive. The relationship is going well, we've been together for three years now and we're thinking about marriage. Before him, I dated someone very similar to me and it went horribly. Both the guys I dated are amazing, extremely smart, great people overall.

In my past relationship, when things went well they were amazing and when things went bad they were suicide-worthy. Each argument was destructive. When we had downs, they were absolutely devastating. We literally destroyed each other and he made my issues worse. We clicked amazingly intellectually, but emotionally we were too similar and it was destructive.

In this relationship, we both had to learn a lot, especially at the beginning. I had to let go a bit and he had to become more controlled.
For me, it was mostly getting in touch with my emotional side. I had to learn how to express verbally my affection and be more loving. I had to accept that some things were out of my control and accept our differences not as a flaw, but as a source of enrichment. He had to let learn self discipline and self control. He learnt a more rational approach to things.
We were extremely motivated to be together because we had an amazing intellectual connection. We talked a lot and worked to find balance. He brings out my best side, and I do the same with him. I think that our relationship works wonders and it was worth the effort.
We never had destructive arguments, all our discussions, even when we disagree, are amazing. We're both very calm and we always focus on understanding the reasons behind the actions that lead to arguments. It takes a lot of self awareness and maturity.

Hope it somehow helps.

>>17322471
Yes, we've been together for five years now.

>>17322471
I find that pretty mental - Like, how do you even know you like someone if you don't have a personal relationship with them?

>>17321732
No, I don't think so. That's "just" my opinion hopefully other girls/women will answer.

>>17322529
Are you a girl?
I asked myself the same question when this girl I work with confessed to me when the only interaction we ever had were like a 3 minutes conversation in a 6 months time spam.
She got mad because I didn't reciprocate her feelings.
I found her really cute and if we had started interacting under different circumstances I would be all over her.

>>17322520
>we've been together for three years now and we're thinking about marriage
>we both had to learn a lot, especially at the beginning

Yeah that helps tremendously. I think that intelligence may be the more important element here and I wasn't giving it enough gravity.

>>17322299
Yes...I try apologize and hope they forgive me ...if not, well it's my own fault...

>>17322552
Yes, I'm a girl.
I find that creepy as fuck honestly.
I experienced some crushes that started "quickly" (physical attraction + great conversation), but it took me some time together and eventually it was always mutual.
Confessing is just the creepiest thing ever. Itself.

>>17322559
Intelligence is absolutely important. I think that self-awareness and acceptance are the most important things, tho.
One thing that helped me a lot is realising that if something is different from my personal idea of how it should be, it isn't always wrong. We disagree on some things and it is okay, because we both have reasons for our positions.
Also learning to compromise was fundamental.

when a girl puts the message in my head "why doesn't she like me" into every god dam action I do is she trying to get a point across? such as she doesnt like me

>>17322615
btw male asking grill input

Is having a big dick a bad thing sometimes? Ive had a few girls say it hurts during sex because im too big.

>>17322575
>Confessing is just the creepiest thing ever. Itself.
imho it's cute and endearing. I missed out on all that shit in middle/high school so I guess I don't see it as childish or strange.

>>17322628
yes. anal and doggy is shit with a dick that is basically punching your stomach

>>17322644
I find it incredibly immature and an enormous turn off.
It means that they are not able to develop a relationship normally or they like me based on something really superficial. Or both. Which is sort of okay when you're 12, but fucking creepy for me since I'm in my mid 20s.
Normally, you like someone when you get to know each other - you like someone's personality and not just their looks. If you're not a fucking awkward sperg, you're able to flirt, and eventually make a move or ask them out, and you don't need to confess.
So the confession is just a fucking huge turn off.

>>17322615

...wut?

>>17322665
L O N D O N
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Can I get a reality check please? Both genders, all sexual orientations may answer.

I've been told my standards are too high. I just want to confirm this.

I'm a heterosexual guy, and these are my preferences when it comes to dating women:
>my age or younger
>no single moms
>no history of cheating
>all races/ethnicities okay, except for Native American and Filipino (literally everything else is okay except these two)
>must not be a current drug user
>hair color is natural, or if dyed, is in a color that is plausible for her (a brunette dyed blonde is okay. Purple hair is not okay. An Asian with blonde hair is also not okay)
>is not dumb (to me that means she knows the difference between your/you're, makes an attempt to be somewhat aware of current world events, doesn't believe in crackpot theories, and is willing to learn from her mistakes)
>few to no tattoos (a small one on her leg or whatever is okay, but I'm not a fan of full sleeves. Tattoos with meaning behind them are more okay. Trivial tattoos, like ones with anime/video game characters, not so much. Tramp stamps and facial tattoos are an absolute deal-breaker with no wiggle room whatsoever)
>generally prefer thin to average girls
>fat girls are okay only if they're actually self-aware, not deluded by tumblr propaganda, and are willing to improve themselves
On a scale of 1 to Amazing Atheist, how cringeworthy am I?

>>17322710
pretty normal in my opinion, I would say I'm kind of the same except I wouldn't date negresses.
what about drinking or partying habits, do you have an issue with that?

>>17322710
Seems fine to me beside the your/you're thing. I mean if she iz tping lyk diz than I would understand but messing up on your isnt too big of a deal. The same age thing or younger is a little weird too. If someone were a couple years older it would be a deal breaker?

>>17322710
Those are perfectly reasonable, but you'll still have some trouble.

>>17322710

Male here. Most of these sound realistic to me, and I agree with you on them too. However, sometimes I also question my standards. I think ultimately it comes down to how attractive you are. If you're only finding success with a group of women you find unattractive, then maybe that says something about yourself.

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>>17322710
i'd say solid standarts. don't ditch them. and that's coming from a single mom.

>>17322710
It is normal to have standards, your don't seem too crazy.
Just be sure that you are good enough to date someone like that and be realistic.

>>17322710
90% spot on
the "somewhat aware of current world events" thing is pretty high of a standard though and definitely not common, at least in online dating, its only like 1-2% maybe.
but if you are a good catch yourself, should be doable.

i also find the question great "would you date the male/female version of yourself?" pretty interesting for all those young single guys.

>>17320243
I once used to work on a ship, being away for5 weeks at a time. I met this girl while home for 5, and our situation when i was about to leave for work again reminds me of yours. She sent me a text saying something along the lines of "Let me know when you're on the right side of the planet again. I'll wait for you." She was a semi-neet at the time, so i imagine that she may have felt similar to you.

8 years have passed since then. We're married now, and i have a "normal" job.

>>17320459
I fapped in the name of science.

>>17322720
I drink and go to parties myself. As long as she doesn't act like one of the girls on "Girls Gone Wild," and doesn't hold the reputation of the town bike, I'm fine. In short, drinking her troubles away? Sure. Grabbing a few cosmos on girl's night out? Sure. Rolling E, flashing her titties and banging Chad in the bathroom? Nope!

>>17322722
It's not a total deal breaker, but every girl I've dated so far has been older than me. The younger thing is just something new for me to try. That being said, if I met an older chick who was really awesome and wasn't a deal breaker in every other regard, I'd consider her.

>>17322738
>the "somewhat aware of current world events" thing is pretty high of a standard though and definitely not common, at least in online dating, its only like 1-2% maybe.
I work with a girl who literally asked me "What's ISIS?" They're the biggest thing that every news outlet reports, and she somehow doesn't know about them.

How do I make fat chicks stop hitting on me irl and online?

Like they're so far below my league it's crazy that they think they even have a shot with me. An average gay dude has a better shot with me than those whales. No homo.

>>17322787
You don't, you just ignore them and move on.

>>17322787
I don't have a definitive salve, but you could always offend them to the point where they won't talk to you..

>Be me, 19, homo
>At a friend's party
>There's this girl who looks about 14
>She keeps leaning in to kiss me, I keep rejecting because she looks like a fucking kid and I'm not into women
>After the third or fourth time she asks me why not
>I look her dead in the eyes and for some reason, I say "Because sweetheart I'm afraid I might catch something"

She didn't try again afterwards.

>>17322823
10/10

How do I lead up to sex?

I'm pretty sure I pulled on tinder, but I'm not really sure how to lead into it even though she's indicating that she's 100% for it. Once I meet up with her where do I go from there?

Not a virgin, but my first time was about 6 months ago and I haven't gotten laid since. A drunk chick dragged me off and had her way with me at a party.

>>17322823
From my own experience, this might not work as well with fat chicks.

Fat chicks are already used to being put down and shit on. Unless you say something very discomforting, she just might see it as a light ribbing. Remember, fat chicks are often the most common target of bullying.

I once had a fat girl who was really into me. I did everything I could to shake her off. I called her an idiot, a dumbass, chunky, etc. She would always bounce back up and be like "Oh, anon, you're so silly!" She was determined to make it work.

What I find works really well (a little too well) is to be incredibly offensive. Make anti-semitic remarks. Tell her that you're voting for Trump. Mexicans need to go back. Hitler did nothing wrong. Stuff like that.

My recent ex said our relationship is not easy. We have disagreements but never results in yelling or fighting. We both usually go silent for a second then talk it out. That said, she broke up with me over text saying she wants something easy and that she spent two years of her life trying to make it work with her ex. It seems to me she is more scared to get hurt again. No relationship is easy. She was pretty selfish and said "I don't know why people do things they don't want to do for others"

Ladies, when making out with a guy, do you get wet down there?

>>17322823
>>17322823
>gay guy tells a girl that he might catch something from her
Sheeit, that's an astronomical burn. Her soul must've been reduced to a small pile of ashes.

Good job.

>>17322829
Dude I dunno, I dunno why I said that. She went nuts, started slapping me and shit, and stormed off. She was like a good 6-7 inches shorter than me and quite small, like I said she looked 14. She had braces for fucks sake.

Everyone else laughed about it though.

>>17322858
Hmm that's true, I had one crazy girl stalk me all through highschool. When she physically assaulted me (she was trying to push me into a wasp nest, and I am really quite afraid of wasps) I punched her in the face, and she told me she respected me for it.

Some people are fucking nuts.

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>>17322858
>tfw no /pol/ gf to Sig Heil and call for gassing of the kikes with me

>>17321732
I am super into bald men with beards, mmm.

>>17321762
No.

>>17322299
I don't remember my own birthday, I have to be reminded to remember anyone else's. Depends on the value your particular girl places on birthdays in general.

>>17322471
I make the first move, but I don't make moves on people that are essentially strangers to me.

Alright, so, not a virgin anymore. But concerned about my performance. I actually didn't cum. Between last night and this morning and the shower, I never came.

Is there something wrong with me? I can masturbate to just about any porno and come within minutes, but with this chick I just couldn't. The longer it went on the less and less interested I was in it and even went flaccid at a point. There was a point where she was on top and sucking my dick for a good 15 minutes, and it felt warm, and great, but fucking nothing. Hell, she was able to climax sucking me off, but I couldn't.

Ladies -- is there seriously something wrong with me? Should I be concerned at all about how she feels on all of this?
Guys -- has this ever happened with you?

>>17322940
It's probably just performance anxiety buddy.

I'm a guy and sometimes I can't cum, I dunno why. I've been with a guy that just couldn't cum.

Here's a tip, stimulate the frenulum. Become a handjob expert. Finish yourself off if need-be.

>>17322879
Dude, but all girls I've been with have gotten crazy wet from kissing alone. I'm always surprised.

>>17322963
I'm a guy and I get wet from kissing desu. >>17322953 by the way.

As long as you don't /actually/ cum like 2 minutes in, you can ride a real nice high for a long time.

>>17322738
>i also find the question great "would you date the male/female version of yourself?" pretty interesting for all those young single guys.
Hell yeah i would. I'd date the shit out of my clone.

>>17322738
>would you date the male/female version of yourself?
Probably.

>>17322940
The exact same thing used to happen to me, I'm gonna take a stab and say that you watch too much porno. Try masturbating without it for a week, then I'm sure a light breeze would make you cum

>>17322710
>all races/ethnicities okay, except for Native American and Filipino
That seems oddly specific

>>17322940
Guys often nut too early or not at all if they're anxious. Relax and have fun with it, it's not a race.

>>17322738
>would you date the male/female version of yourself?
Not a chance in hell. I want someone to complement me and work together with me, such that we fill each other's weak points and account for each other's flaws to create a stronger unit. I certainly don't want a clone to skew and imbalance things even further.

>>17322710
Your standards are fine, but it's more about the combination of you and the standards. If you are a handsome, academically overachieving athletic guy who can talk about anything, then these standards would be extremely open minded and minimal. If you're a fat guy with a homely face with no hobbies other than vidya and internet, your standards themselves are still reasonable but they are unrealistic for you - at least if you expect to naturally run into multiple girls who meet them and are somewhat open to dating you.

Ultimately though, it is always more about what you have to offer than about your shortcomings. No woman goes crazy over a guy for him not being an edgelord, a dumb fratbro and/or a criminal. You're better off being a charming chubby guy telling entertaining stories than a wooden slender guy who doesn't interact much with anyone in a group setting.

>>17322738
>would you date the male/female version of yourself?
No - I know myself so well I'd get bored of him instantly, we'd never have different opinions on things so we'd never discuss, and we would be imbalanced.

>>17323066
That's the fun part of being a lunatic: if i had a copy of myself sitting next to me, i could have a good long conversation with it and ask all kinds of questions and have no idea what they'd answer.

THIS PAGE IS SO UNPROGGRESIVE MEN AND WOMEN ARE EQUAL AND THERE ISN'T AN OPPOSITE GENDER

>>17323040
If need be, I can easily drop some of my preferences.

I'm 27. I would prefer to date someone under 27, but if I meet a 29-year old who meets most/all of my other preferences, I'd be down. I can even let go of things like hair color and tattoos if her personality's at least awesome.

But there are certain things I just cannot let slide. Single moms and cheaters, for example. I can not and will not be a cuck.

I am surprisingly flexible, but I have to put my foot down on some very specific things. I'm okay with a silver or bronze medal, just don't make me take a participation ribbon.

>>17323160
triggered

>>17321721
Dito

>>17321732
Read the fucking rules and FAQ

Do girls like it when a guy "shows them off" to friends and family?

>>17321829
Communication is key if you want this to last.
Stop asking strangers on the internet what she thinks and why she is acting the way she is. Be a man and talk to her about your concerns. All you are doing is building up speculations and assuming her feelings, which won't lead anywhere but downhill.

IE. If she's just gotten depressed and you start avoiding her because you speculate that she isn't interested anymore or is cheating on you ... All you're doing is making her feel more depressed and lonely at a time where she might need you the most.

Stop speculating and ask her. Start building that trust between the both of you and open up a channel of communication so she doesn't speculate either whenever she has concerns.

>>17322264
Kek

>>17322229
>What is it with female bosses that only hire women?
Some people are just assholes. Welcome to reality.

>>17322266
Explain the situation to her and lay out the options. If you don't give her context on your decision you're allowing her to speculate.
"Hey, I've been trying to figure out where we can hang out and smoke but it seems like the only place we can go is my place. If you know somewhere else we can go just let me know, I'm fine going anywhere."

>>17322369
Damn anon. I can relate with that mentality. Just take into account the fact that you can't tell what people think. Nobody is a psychic. Don't put yourself down for something so insignificant. Try to enjoy every breathe you take and every tree you see rather than what goes on in people's heads. The most important thing is being happy. You're a good person and obviously have enough charisma to have friends.. Some of us can't even hold a friendship. Invest in yourself and your self esteem will slowly grow with the rest of you. Do something you love and don't let small things bring you down.

-Happy Birthday Anon

>>17322615
Please restate this mess

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>>17323389

She just send me a flip page video. I feel a bit better, because her support is important to me.

Overall, I still feel awful. But it was good to see she does care.

>>17323160
The ironic thing is that this thread has actually helped a lot of people. Look at the solidarity created by this thread and all you care about is what people think of gender. It's sad that so many have detached themselves from reality for the sake of their unreasonable concerns, feelings, and fears.

>>17323405
>>17323405
That just proves my point. You didn't know what she thinking or whether she hates you. The more you MAKE UP depressing thoughts, the more depressed you'll get.

>>17323340
I'd rather die.
But then I'm pretty shy and I detest being at the centre of attention.

>>17323340
Of course. It shows that you want them to be part of their life, are excited for the people you care about to meet the girl you care about, that you aren't hiding anything (the back up girl is not usually invited to his mother) and that you are proud to be with her. All very good.

>>17323350
This post is idealistic. I also prefer direct communication, but most people do not. Most people prefer non-verbal communication, (aka bullshit mind-reading and guessing games in my opinion), and are very uncomfortable with direct questions like the ones you're suggesting.

>>17323405
Sounds nice. Not many people would put in the effort to tell you happy birthday in a creative way. Why do you feel awful?
I posted >>17322496 from personal experience, but obviously that doesn't apply to your case. I don't think anyone's ever cared about me enough to make a flip book. Don't take people for granted. Those who genuinely care are rare in life.

>>17323425
>>17323466

It's just hard not to think like this. I don't like myself, so it's easy for me to believe that others would just stop caring. I don't know why she thinks about me. I'm shit

I'm either going to look like a bitch or open up a big can of worms, here I go.

Guys, what should I do to get my boyfriend to appreciate me more/do nice things for me? He refers to himself as a 'romantic' a lot, but I can't think of one damn romantic thing he's ever done for me. I'm the one that travels to see him and he never has to lift a finger or go out of his way to see me. I'm thinking of killing two birds with one stone by bringing up the fact that I'm the one making all the effort and that he's supposed to be the romantic, but how do I do this without causing an argument?

>>17323499
You might be shit to yourself, but you're obviously not shit to her.
One man's trash is another woman's treasure, eh?

>>17323589

Fuck.. Well.. My day just got 10x worse..

so, this girl. I care about her a lot, well I like her. I just found out this past week she started seeing someone. That's why I haven't heard back from her until now. I feel sick..

A girl on okcupid who I talked to a month ago just texted me cause she didn't recognize me on her phonebook.

Does she want me to start talking to her again, or something?

>>17323597
Welp. Back to personal experience then.
It happens. A month back i found out the only girl at this uni who i might like has a boyfriend. Now I'm looking forward to 5 years alone.

Just gotta get used to it and lower your expectations. After a while, it just becomes natural.
After all, what have you really lost? Nothing.
You were just a backup to her. Just an option, one she doesn't need anymore.
Move on to a girl who actually appreciates you, you might be someone's first choice rather than her 2nd, 3rd, 4th...

>>17323570
Ey. Could you ____ more often? I love that shit. Makes me all gooey inside.

Then also make it a point to express how much you enjoy it whenever he's doing a thing that you like. "I love that you've thing'd" rather than "I love that thing is currently happening"

Guys do better with short sweet direct and to the point. Everybody does better with positive reinforcement.

The long drawn out convos where you go over every detail and how it makes you feel and your thoughts on what to do to resolve it... those are for when there's something recognized by both sides as causing a rift between you and shit needs to be properly hashed out. Taking that approach every time one of you have a gripe is what tends to create the unnecessary arguments.

>>17323615

You just told me that she obviously cared enough about me to spend her time making a flip book for me...

It fucking hurts having a girl, who does care about you, fall for someone else.


>move on to a girl..

No. It's not worth it.

>>17323612
Good question. Return her text and find out. Report back with results.

>>17323641
And that's giving false hope is a dick move even if you think you are doing a good thing.

She likes you as friend and that's it apparently; you are going to have to live with it.

>>17323643
Asked her if she wanted to hang and then radio silence. Yawn.

>>17323673

She used to like me more than a friend.. I know that for sure..

God damn.. This week/day goes for shit, to some improvement, to absolute shit. Fuck this day.

>>17323632
Does he lurk? If he's an anon too it could mean fucking anything lol. Otherwise it probably just means "don't be afraid to talk dirty, it won't sound lame, it'll make me cum buckets"

Either way: while fucking, wrap your legs around his hips, lock your feet together behind his ass, stuff your face into his neck, and whisper "cum in me. fill my pussy up with cum." Excited urgency in your voice, not like a gentle soft whisper, and say the words kinda slowly. The urgency thing is more about tone than speed. He will cum buckets, and the bucket will be you. Bonus points if you time it to coincide with your own orgasm. Have fun;)

grills,

How much would it take you out of the mood if a guy accidentally said "I wanna feel your cock wrapped around my pussy" during phone sex?

>>17323707

What

>>17323679
Bleh. Well you know now at least. Don't write her off, don't get hung up on her, you know the drill.

>>17323707
My boyfriends says stupid shit like that all the time during sex. It kills the mood, but it's fucking hilarious

>>17323691
You illuding yourself with wishful thinking.

Stop beating yourself over shit that has happened. Accept the fact and move on.
Yeah, you had a shit day, it happens; now focus toward making tomorrow less shitty.

>>17323707
Not much at all but I would laugh my fucking ass off

>>17323722

Lol, I was just playing along cause I was curious what would happen. I don't give a fuck about her.

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>>17323733

>You illuding yourself with wishful thinking

I know for a fact she used to like me more than a friend. At a time.

there's nothing I can do to make tomorrow better. Most of my troubles are related to work, but that's all out of my control. It's nothing I can do. And now, I have this shit on my mind.

So how do I get this fat girl to leave me alone?

I went out with her because my friends said I'm too shallow and should try, but I just couldn't do it, so I had a friend call me with a fake emergency to bail about 40 minutes into the date. Its been 3 days and she texts me multiple times every day with shit like "really?" "hello?" etc, and I'll probably run into her once or twice sometime this week.

>>17323755
Welp
Shit
Sucks

If there is nothing you can do go to the "get it off your chest" thread and vent.
And stop feeling sorry for yourself, that shit is annoying.

>>17323780
You can say you went on a date with her because you thought you were too shallow and decided to give it a try and it failed or you can say you didn't connect and that you are not interessed.

Your worst mistake was to get out of the date. You gave her hope; if you went all the way through a shit date she would, propably, notice it's never happening.

>>17323780

Just tell her "look, this isn't going to work" and leave it at that. At least have the decency to shut her down vs the unkown

>>17323802
I guess I should've been more thorough, but I'm driving to fireworks to meet a new date that's not fat. I'm not a complete autist, I did say something along those lines, but here's pretty much the full story after:

I actually wanted to try one more time after feeling guilty and said we'd do something on the weekend, but after thinking it through more I told her more or less that she was too fat for me. Yet she's still texting me like that conversation never happened.

>>17323797
>Your worst mistake was to get out of the date. You gave her hope
Yeah didn't think that through fully, forgot fat girls are usually unnervingly clingy and insane. I've done it a few times with other girls before and they never seemed to care, so I just went in with that in mind thinking it would be the same.

>>17323844
>. I've done it a few times with other girls before
Damn, you are a pussy.

Tips to avoiding psyching myself out and giving myself ED?

I actually managed to pull (I think, anyway), and this would be my second time. I had a lot of trouble keeping it up my first time. I know that's common, but I'm worried about it happening on the second time and coming off as a completely fucking chach after all the flirting/texting etc

>>17323862
That I don't deny

Are there any girls who are into like loli/shota stuff and into gender role reversal stuff, also like innocence role playing.

I have some really weird fetishes and I feel like I'm all alone in this.

>>17323881
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ito5ELbyyxs

Guys,

Does it come off as desperate when girls make the first move? And if you do like being approached how do you prefer women go about it?

>>17323893
Unless you're literally grabbing his dick, no. I think most guys would be flattered/excited at the prospect of a woman asking them out first. Reminds of a big blog post i saw once - for men, romance is always a verb, never a noun, so it's nice for some of that pressure to go away every once in a while

>>17323881
Most women are submissive and looking for a Dominant. If you're talking about ageplay and Daddy Dom/little girl, you're in luck. There are plenty of girls who like pretending they are younger than they are and being fucked by an adult Dominant male.

I don't really know what you're referring to with gender role reversal. Are you talking about you being submissive and the woman being Dominant? That's called femdom. Female Dommes are a little harder to find than subs, but they exist.
If you're talking about cross dressing and feminization, then that is also a thing, but similarly more difficult than finding a sub. With what I've seen, feminization seems to be with humiliation as the goal in mind. I haven't seen much femdom where the woman Domme wants to cross dress as male, if that's what you're going for.

If you're looking for a woman to peg you, that is also something that exists. In my own anecdotal experience, I've found that bi women are the most likely to be willing to peg a man. Particularly if you're looking for non-femdom pegging.

I suggest you saunter over to /soc/.

These fetishes of yours really aren't that weird.

>loli/shota stuff, innocence role playing.
I'm assuming you mean with

>>17323893
I assume this is something girls tell each other.

Girls don't usually do that so it can be a confidence boost for the guy, to be special; the risk of rejection is on the person who iniciates so it can be relieving too; since it's not usual for women to do it some guys might look at it like desperation too.
Honestly, for me it would be pretty nice but i have never talked to another guy about this so i don't know for sure; i assume most guys find it a plus/big plus.

>>17323893
>Does it come off as desperate when girls make the first move?
Not necessarily, obviously depends on the girl.

>>17323917
I dunno, it seems pretty usual for women to approach men lately. At least for me. I don't know why, but I don't have to make any effort anymore, whereas 4 years ago I always had to approach.

>>17323844
>I told her more or less that she was too fat for me
Ugh. No. Maybe this is contributing to why you're ghosting girls. You think that you need to knife them in the back in order to reject them. You don't need to be this specific about WHY. You just need to say WHAT.

"I had a good time on our date but-
>I don't think it's going to work out.
>I'm not really feeling it.
>I think we should see other people.
>Etc
Thank you for our time together. I wish you well."

If she pushes you about why, be VAGUE AS HELL AND DON'T BUDGE AN INCH.

"Why not, Anon???"
>"I think we're just looking for different things."
"What does that mean? What are you looking for?"
>"It's just really not going to work out."
"What did I do wrong? How can I deserve your love???"
>"I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say."

That's your trump card for if she won't stop pestering you and you run out of things to say: "I'm sorry. I just really don't know what else to say."

"WHY WON'T YOU JUST BE HONEST AND TELL ME, ANON???"
"I'm sorry. I just really don't know what else to say."
"WHAT ELSE TO SAY? YOU JUST EXPLAIN YOURSELF!"
"I don't know. I'm sorry. I really don't know what else to say."

Be a broken record. You owe her ZERO explanations. Reject and move on. Be concise and be vague. NEVER say why.

>>17323570
I agree with positive reinforcement. Don't go "WHYYY DON'T YOU TAKE ME OUT TO ROMANTIC DINNERS?" try instead: "Wouldn't it be fun to go out on a romantic dinner? We could dress up all fancy like something out of a movie! We should do that sometime."
A trick to this is saying "we should" rather than "you should"

Don't be accusatory. Be friendly.

Another thing you both should do is figure out your 5 love languages. There's a little test for you guys to do. That would be good.

>>17323893
>Does it come off as desperate when girls make the first move?
Nope. Comes off as bold and assertive to me. Like she's the kind of girl that knows what she wants, and isn't afraid to go and get it.
>how do you prefer women go about it?
Any way you want, really. Can ask him out, can give him your number, ask for his number, etc.
Since i'm an expat here, last few times it's been "do you have whatsapp?"
I think i've installed it 3 times so far for these occasions.

Oh and make sure you're not just kissing frogs to see if one turns into prince charming.
Don't kiss frogs unless you actually like frogs.

>>17323917
>I assume this is something girls tell each other.
Yeah, i always figured that too. Never heard a single guy complain about being approached or say anything negative about it (other than when a girl with a boyfriend does it for the attention or to get him as a backup: fuck that shit).
All of would be happy if girls approached more often. Takes a load off of us, at least.

>>17322940
My boyfriend never came from sex/oral in the 4 years I was with him. We got down to a science of having sex/me sucking him off/giving him a handjob and then switching to him masturbating when he wanted to cum.

I understood that it wasn't my fault or anything. Some girls are fucking idiots and take it to heart, so if your girlfriend is a massive moron, she might be blaming herself. If she does, she's wrong, and should be told as such, but some girls do do that.

Girls, what would you think of a guy who's loved a girl for 7 years whom he has never even dated? I'm asking for a friend.

if my girlfriend didnt tell me her mom died this past week is that weird? should i say anything about it?

i've seen her almost every day this week but apparently last thursday her mom died in a hospital in her hometown. i only know because everyone in her family is doing the "sorry for your loss" thing on her facebook so i googled and found the funeral homes page about it..

>>17323993
I like your humour.
Sounds like you are an orbiter living 7 years of sadness and false hope, though. I'm a male, by the way.

>>17323993
RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG
But it wouldn't really come up, because even if I was interested in him, he would be too busy lusting over a girl he doesn't even really know.

>>17324002
She's probably still in shock. Don't do anything stupid like taking this personally.
It's probably nice being with you and not having to talk about it. As you can tell by her facebook, people are constantly bugging her about it. She's having to tell people over and over again, and she's going to continue to have that conversation for the rest of her life. She doesn't want to have that conversation with you too. Or maybe she thought she already did. She probably assumes you know. You are her rock right now.

Hold her tight and keep her busy. Keep an eye on her. Tell her you love her.

>>17323936
Nothing wrong with ghosting in 2016 anon

>>17324044
Ghosting's great, if you're actually in a position where it would work out.
Obviously anon is not in a position where he can ghost, since this woman is still bothering him.
He either needs to stop caring about her contacting him if he wants to continue to ghost, or he needs to properly reject her.

>>17324044
[CURRENT YEAR]

What's a good place to look for casual sex? I'm sure it's suicidal just asking for sex right away, but still. Websites or apps are fine, but i'm talking about actual places. I'm a guy, pretty average one, but not fat.

>>17324147
you mean like one night stands or a consistent thing?

something ive learned from living in las vegas while growing up is that instead of buying prostitutes directly you'll get the same result by renting an exotic sports car for a couple hundred dollars and then parking in front of a bar/club and waiting for girls to come out

otherwise you can get pretty consistent sex using tinder but it takes some work and you have to be attractive or good at taking flattering pictures.

>>17323893
>Does it come off as desperate when girls make the first move?
No, let this stupid meme die already.

>And if you do like being approached how do you prefer women go about it?
"Hi, I'm [name]."

What goes through the mind of a woman after a break up?

Male here.

Want to ask this girl out, shes drop dead gorgeous, she seems like she likes me, but I just can't, i chicken out every time. I'm not usually a chicken shit, I'm really not afraid of anything, I've asked out and dated women before, but this one is different, idk if i just don't want to risk messing up what we already have as -not quiet friends, but much more than acquaintances-, or if i feel like if she says no it would be a hit to my ever so dwindling self esteem.

>>17324018
What's an orbiter? I don't talk about these types of things often and I'm afraid I'm not up with the current lingo.

>>17324023
And I'd likely not be interested in you, but if you're looking to flatter yourself I suggest putting down the fork.

>>17324235
Stop being an idiot and do it.

>>17324277
http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orbiter

>>17324298
Oh, well that's not me, she's just better, subjectively and objectively, than any other girl I've met so far. I don't want to have sex with her. I don't want sex at all. Perhaps that's the problem I should be focusing on.

>>17324283
If I could I wouldn't be here asking, its fucking me up on a whole other level.

>>17324279
I thought you were asking for a friend ;)
Ribbing aside, I'm a little confused on how this would come up. Are you still in love with this other girl, but have decided to give up on her to date other women? I'd bet that if they knew, they'd feel a little bit like second place. Why haven't you pursued this other girl? Or are you over your oneitis and you're worried about girls finding out about your orbiting past?

I can relate, to be honest. I went a bit yandere over an ex friend and sort of stalked her for half a decade. But we kissed and made up, so maybe I could inspire hope? We never did date though, but at least we're friends again.

>>17324303
>I don't want sex at all. Perhaps that's the problem I should be focusing on.
Dammit anon, we're too similar. I have this issue too. But I'll tell you that in my journeys through the asexual communities, you'll probably have better luck as a male ace than a chick.

girls, if you invite a male coworker to watch movies at your place and "sleep" in the same bed, is it safe to assume you are down to fuck?

>>17324303
Go to a doc and get your hormone levels checked.

>>17323893
It really depends,
if you are going after someone that literally knows nothing about you, it might be really creepy since he could only assume you are shallow and are only interested in him for superficial reasons.
If your situation is more than, "a friend I started to like" odds are that the feelings is mutual if you two spend time together for no real reason.

>>17324325
Does she seem like a social idiot? Because if she WASN'T trying to come across like that, she has made a mistake.
If there was a situation where you had to stay in the same room, one would sleep on the floor.

>>17324333
I've heard this over and over, but never have I actually had someone come back and say, "Yeah my doctor said that I'm deficient in this or that and that I need to do this to fix it."

>>17324352
People who frequent 4chan tend to avoid doctors.

>>17323466
Then stop worrying about the BS if you're just going to play mind games.
You still haven't figured out whats wrong and you are already planning an exit strategy. From your response, all i can say is that you either need to stop crying over her acting differently or emotionally mature and find someone who is as equally mature.
It's not idealistic. If you can't communicate with your significant other.. It won't last long.

>>17323499
>>17323499
It sounds like you have anxiety or depression. Seek some help. I used to be exactly like you.. You just have to emotionally mature more and learn to be more independent. Your emotional health shouldn't lay in the hands of a girl or anyone for that matter. Trust me, things will get better. Keep your head up, look for help, and learn to love yourself m8.

Girls: I have about three days to talk to a cute girl in my class and get her number. How fucked am I? Let me know what other information you nee

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>>17324315
I told the girl how I felt within the year that I began liking her, 7 years ago. She got married last year. I just want to stop liking her, and I've read that being with someone else helps.

>Why haven't you pursued this other girl?
There is no other girl. Though I have dated numerous girls in these 7 years, nothing's helped. I was never really interested in any of them, but I figured I'd give it a shot because hey who knows right? Plus I'm no prize. I'm short (5'8") and mildly autistic (though the latter helps with being good at designing and programming computer shit, which is good since that's my job). I make a decent amount of money. Besides that, all I have to offer is my love. That's not any good coming from something like me.

I still don't want sex, but I do feel attraction to people. Logically, it's so fucking stupid, but so am I. I apparently lack the ability to determine who is and who isn't attractive according to informative discussions with friends. Unfortunately, there is a very specific type of girl that I'm attracted to physically. By that, I mean just the face. I don't care about the body. Pic related is the most similar "famous" person I've found to the girl that I like. Pretty sure I can't deserve someone like her. But that's toxic thinking. Oh well.

>>17324333
trips, I did when I was 15, and they said I was fine. I should go again. I'm 23 now. A little late for puberty, but maybe it'll happen someday!

>>17324444
quads will give you the power

Girls,
I want to talk to my ex tonight. Should I?

She left me because of my depression and anxiety + me not getting any help for it either.

>>17324538
No. Have you been drinking?

>>17324547
Yes

Ladies, is penis length or girth more important? I have a relatively small penis at 5.4" but slightly girthy at 5.2". Is that a good size?

>>17324549
Then the answer is definitely no

>>17324463
I hope so. Any pointers?

>>17324650
Remember that you're not doing something really all that weird. She's a normal human being and isn't going to hate you or anything. You're gonna be fine

>>17323359
Some women only hire other women was because they already have a girly workplace environment and a man would have trouble fitting in.


For men:

My question is what is the motivation behind male managers who only bully female employees?

>>17324716
As a manager i bully all my employees equally.

>>17324664
I keep thinking that it'll be awkward. Every time I try and go for it, the walk up to them and actually talking to them is nerve wracking. What do I even say? "Hey, XX, I liked the topic you brought up in class the other week. (Even though it's been like 2-3 weeks at this point, I feel like remembering it and bringing it up would be super weird) If it's alright with you, would you like to talk more about it over lunch on Saturday?"

I think one of the main reasons I'm terrifies, other for fear of looking awkward and stupid and ugly, is that I can't control it. I always go in expecting a no and hoping for a yes. That's not the problem, I don't think. The problem is that I want to be able to plan what I say and do so that it's perfect and I'm not awkward. But how other people act is such a critical variable in how the situation plays out, and my inability to predict it worries me. (Not a control freak, but I like to know things and lack of knowledge doesn't sit well with me. I think it's because I believe that my assumed knowledge is one of my only good qualities, other than humor.)

We also need a new thread.

>>17324735
You'll do great. Even if you literally fuck everything up, as long as you actually put yourself out there and finish your sentence, you've got a shot.
I can't really relate about not controlling those things, since being able to manipulate conversations is the only thing I've got going for me.
Also >>17324567

>>17324723
For what purpose? You lose good employees and you're left with the ones that can't find a better workplace.

>>17324716
>Some men only hire other men because they already have a manly workplace environment and a woman would have trouble fitting in.

I'm sure every female (You included) would go ape shit and on offense if that were to be said. Same BS, different gender. Some people are just assholes.
>Big ego
>Depression
>Unhappy marriage
>Drugs
>Superiority complex
>Inexperience
>Stupidity
>Ignorance
>etc...
It could be anything but in the end, they're just assholes.