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Who do I contact to find out what is illegal?

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Hey /adv/ me and a bunch of friends are looking to buy a stack of stuff online but we aren't sure of the legality, things such as full fireproof and stab proof riot gear, pepper spray, tasers, lasers and military grade smoke bombs. However in my country (Australia) these things are very fringe legal, by that I mean they don't actually fit into the definition of weapons or defensive equipment because of some very smart marketing by the sellers.

Who do I contact to find out if this stuff is legal? Would calling the police be a good option or will they tell me to fuck off they aren't lawyers?
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Ausfag here. I've brought a laser and taser or "anti wolf device" online and they got in fine but it was only one of each, if you're buying a lot you will probably get caught, as for the riot fear and smoke bombs, if it's actually classed as stab resistant you could very well go to jail and the smoke bombs I assume would come in under explosive devices unless your seller has been very clever, again landing you in jail.

The police here dont know shit about the law and as soon as they heard riot gear you would probably end up on a list of some sort. Your best bet would be to contact a good lawyer and be completely open about what you're doing, a good lawyer would more than happy to help for a fee.
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>>16951147
What the fuck are you planning?
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>>16951194
this
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>>16951181
Mmk I'll speak to a lawyer.

>>16951194
>>16951204
A non lethal hostile take over.
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>>16951213
oh what? you realize after the recent terror attacks they are going to be watching you when buy riot gear and other things, Tasers are pretty unreliable as well, you will probably just end up getting arrested or shot.
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>>16951213

>A non lethal hostile take over.

So you plan on attacking someone/something in full riot gear and military grade ordinance and you're worried about the legality of buying the stuff online?

Go to bed, kid. You're not anywhere near as smart as you think.
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>>16951147

The answer is easy.... everything you mention is illegal in most states of Australia.

See the NSW Prohibited Weapons Act 1998 Schedule 1

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/wpa1998231/sch1.html
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so why is Australia so antifun anyway?
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>>16951869
They're a bunch of drunken angry kids from criminal ancestors
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>>16951874

9/11 didn't happen here
LA riots didn't happen here
Multiple types of riots and mass shootings don't happen here
Euro terror problems are not here

Yes, we're a bunch of happy faggots who'se ancestors either walked here, got sent here or came here by choice. We like it like it is.
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>>16951889
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis
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>>16951889
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Australia

Achmed its time to stop posting, the CIA are moving in
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>>16951895
One guy - even ISIS didn't want him. He claimed the attack for ISIS and they went "Who, what the fuck..... ah yeah OK (by the way where the fuck is this guy)"

Even the Cronulla riots were nothing on the scale of international rioting. It was a fight over a beach by mudslimes and redneck bogans.
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>>16951901
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>>16951895
It ain't a perfect system by any means, but it beats the 'Murican system any day.
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>>16951912
This is how we keep people out.

You see a land of shitposters but what you don't know if we have a federal govt department that administers shitposting on 4chan - it's a carefully crafted strategy for keeping dumb cunts and poor fags away from our golden shores while the wealthy asian tourists flock here with open wallets.
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>>16951929
This and our drop bear breeding program
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>>16951927
does it?

How do you plan to defend yourself if someone breaks into your home?
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>>16951954
1. They most likely won't. Of all the people I know in my life I know of one who had their house broken into and he wasn't home at the time.

2. There's a slim chance of anyone breaking into my house (even if they did) and having a weapon. At best they will have a knife (as unlikely as this is).

3. If I wake up in the middle of the night with someone breaking into my house with a knife and I confront them they will run off. They're there to steal shit, not stab people (massive difference in payout and prison sentencing).

4. If they break into my house (slim chance), they have a knife (even slimmer chance) and want to fight (even slimmer chance still) I am trained to de-escalate a situation where I am being attacked with a knife. I used to teach people this same skill and have practiced this thousands of times.

5. If I call the police they will be there in under 10 mins.

6. Australia isn't full of niggers that want to break into peoples houses and steal shit.

Needless to say I sleep very well at night.
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>>16951984
so your entire solution is to hope he doesn't have a weapon?
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>>16951147
Called the police, party van is on the way
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>>16951990
He already said he has 300 confirmed de-escalators and teaches people to build them

I assume they work like a refular escalator and he simply shoves the knife weilder onto an upward and quick moving "de-escalator" which causes the attacker to fall infiniately on the escalator until dead and he shuts it off

flawless stategy
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>>16951990
>hope he doesn't have a weapon

Americans will never comprehend this. Weapons are heavily regulated here and assault with a gun is so rare to the point considering it any kind of threat is pointless.

Criminals do have weapons, but they would rather use them to shoot each other or rob petrol stations/banks. Why the fuck would you break into someones house if you had a gun?

Also, the entire situation doesn't hope they don't have a weapon. You're saying "everyone should have a gun on the 1 in 20 million chance of getting robbed at gun point, even though by giving everyone a free gun your chances of being robbed have now dramatically increased since the fucktards that couldn't get them before now have them"

Do I need to bring up a gun assault per capita comparison to show you why your system is not working?
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>>16951147
your internal morality.
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>>16952012
Actually, most violent crimes her are attempted with ghosts guns because we keep track of the baliatics of legally sold ones. They're easy to track. So people make reproductions in mexico and make them look like a real gun. They sell these untraceable guns for like double the ammount of a regular regulated gun. It's easier for you on your desert island, but gun laws here just give more power to the criminals. Cuckifornia and Jew York are prime examples.
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>>16952020
Can't commit homicide with a fake
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>>16951990
Different ausfag here.

Yes, that's my strategy. Unless I am a criminal and engaged in some kind of dispute with other crims then it is extremely unlikely a break in will involve weapons. As >>16951984 says they're there to steal shit not get in a fight.

The cops will attend and insurance will cover any damage and loss. It's nothing to get butt hurt over. The whole defend yourself rhetoric we keep hearing from americunts makes you look like timid cowards who need a gun to feel safe.

Here we say 'fuck off cunt' to dip shits that think they can get in your face and people will step into to help those who need help. If shit happens on public transport passengers will step up.

We don't need guns. We don't have a white nigger or black nigger problem. With abos you can divert them with a ciggie and a beer can and the pacific islanders you just yell 'coconut' and when they duck the (non-existent) falling coconut you knee 'em in the face.
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>>16952025
It's not a blank shooting replica fake, it's a knock off and functional fake made in workshops. I mean they stamp colt or springfield armory on the side. We are physically connected to the drug making warzone that is latin america.
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>>16952012
it really doesn't matter, just as you say the odds of me being shot by a burglar are so low that it doesn't bother me that I can't defend myself from that remote possibility, I too say the odds of me being killed by some crazed gunman are so remote that it doesn't bother me

I'd rather live in a country where I'm allowed to defend myself but I'm not forcing you to live here. I just find that typical australian smug sense of superiority for having a government that doesn't trust them to be armed repellent.
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>>16952031
>I just find that typical australian smug sense of superiority for having a government that doesn't trust them to be armed repellent.

It's not that at all. Look at this shit >>16952025 and tell me that our system of dealing with gun ownership isn't working better. We measure our success in gun control with the number of lives they take, not the level of freedoms it gives us. Most of us don't care for owning a gun and if we wanted one bad enough (and passed the background checks) we can get one.
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>>16952040
see >>16952030 island friend.

All banning guns here would do is give more power to the gangs.
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>>16952044
You don't need to ban guns, you need to control them (that's the point I've been trying to make this whole time).
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>>16952060
ok, in what way?
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>>16952060
We do, we do background checks and banned assault weapons. In cuck states like commiefornia they banned mags higher than 10 rounds to no affect because surprise! criminals don't obey laws.

You can't compare your mostly uninhabitable island to the us.
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>>16952062
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia#Port_Arthur_massacre_and_its_consequences

In a nutshell,

Limit the types of guns that can be owned (no semi-automatic weapons (except handguns), no pump action shotguns, no high powered rifles, no high calibre handguns)

Have a licencing system that requires you to justify your need for a gun.

Maintain a weapons database

Mandate guns must be kept in safes (and get police to do random checks)

These are a few of the things we did (I wouldn't expect you to do all, but doing any one is a start). It may take longer to work over there since you have a very high weapon per capita but it will decrease your gun homicide rates and make you safer.
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>>16952065
Maybe not, but I can compare it to Canada. See >>16952025
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>>16952071
That won't be effective for anything but disarming honest citizens and will just cause an increase in the importation of illegal arms. Let's just give more power to the cartels. Gangsters don't register their guns. Gangsters buy illegal ghost guns because they aren't registered already.

Again, your island isn't comparable to the us.
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>>16952080
See >>16952075
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>>16952075
Canada doesn't border Mexico, they can thank us for not getting as many illegal guns. They also don't have as high a bean and black population.
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>>16952083
>It's bordering Mexico's problem
>It's immigrants problem
>It's drug cartel's problem
>It's criminal's problem
>It's gangsters problem
>It's literally anything except the US's loose gun laws problem
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>>16952065
>You can't compare your mostly uninhabitable island to the us.

Too fuckin right mate. It's so much better here it's unbelievable to people from the Americas.

Seriously we are probably amongst the freeist people in the world. Free to do most things without the need to pack a firearm in order to feel free. If it came down to psychology I think a lot of people from the USA feel inferior and emasculated and afraid so they use gun ownership as a way of feeling 'equal'

The problem is this 'equality' is only equalising you to the level of criminals and scum.

So this great freedom you trumpet is really only the freedom to not feel inferior to the dregs of society. It doesn't have any uplifting qualities and without your guns you're just scared people scurrying about looking over your shoulders in fear.

We have freedom from being afraid.
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>>16952089
You mean on top of the 2500 mile buffer? Or the lack of beans in canada to smuggle them in?

Please, Canada is just a bunch of nerds. They are basically dorky midwesterners to pussy northwesterners other than the french ones. Seattle doesn't have the crimerate LA does either.

Just stop and apply some sunscreen.
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>>16952094
I live in Phoenix in whiteville. Never felt afraid in my life. Guns are just toys for us. Something to do when we go camping. I've smoked weed and then shot cans before. I don't think you know much more about freedom than just getting drunk constantly and lifting weights.
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>>16952095
I feel like I'm explaining to a retard why they shouldn't put their hand in a blender and should put a lid on the blender so there's a significantly lesser chance you'll get your fingers cut off by the blender. But in return all I'm getting is
>YOU CAN'T BAN ALL OF OUR BLENDERS
>4 CULTURALLY SIMILAR COUNTRIES THAT HAVE BLENDER LIDS AREN'T COMPARABLE
>MINORITIES ARE TO BLAME

I'm done, I'm 100% done. Enjoy your next mass shooting, no doubt there'll be one or tow over the weekend...
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>>16952103
The psycho killings aren't the cause of the homocide rate. Gang violence is.
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>>16952098
Same here. Guns are sporting equipment and nothing more. I own 2 myself and they mean nothing more to 'my freedom' than a pair of football boots (other than safe storage - the only danger from my boots is the stank).

If I think about needing a gun to equalise myself for protection then I feel less of a man somehow.

I hardly drink and only lift for fitness. Having lived and worked in the USA and Canada for many years before coming back here I can tell you without any exaggeration some parts of the US culture (religion, guns and racism for example) really make you guys look like the scaredest people on earth. I come back here and it's so different it's very noticeable.

That said, there's almost no difference between normal average folks in the USA and Australia. It's the fringes where the difference really lies.
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>>16952089
>>16952103
Canada has 1/3 the population and has unreported disappearances inna woods all the time. They also don't have a third world cartel-run goat-fucking chicken-fucking perpetually pregnant taco-munching grasshopper-frying kidney-stealing tourist-robbing criminal hideaway on its southern border.
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OP here, spoke to a lawyer in person and the supplier, everything but the smoke grenades are ordered. The riot gear will get in because they've called it motorcycle safety and protective gear.

>>16951816
No we won't, drug dealers don't call the police and the ones we're targetting don't have guns.

>>16951836
>Go to bed, kid.
Kids totally have half a million dollars at their disposal, project less.

>>16951869
I blame Bob Hawk and Gough Whitlam.
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>>16952131
>They also don't have a third world cartel-run goat-fucking chicken-fucking perpetually pregnant taco-munching grasshopper-frying kidney-stealing tourist-robbing criminal hideaway on its southern border

They do actually...
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>>16952113
You do have Abbot, though. Nobody can argue with that.

Makes me laugh the way people insult America when we have a black liberal socialist elected whereas the UK, Poland and Australia- more that I missed- all have massive poor-hating pricks at the helm.
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>>16952329
>No we won't, drug dealers don't call the police and the ones we're targetting don't have guns
I hope you've thought this through man. Drug dealers tend to hold grudges and usually dont tell people if they've got guns. How do you know they dont have police contacts or they aren't informants themselves?
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>>16952329
>Kids totally have half a million dollars at their disposal
Are you new money? Christ.
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>>16952352
Abbott took a knife to the back a couple months ago, we've got Turnbull now not that he's any different, they're all just say the same shit and do nothing for our country. The last PM we had that actually cared about Australians was John Howard. That man was a beast and was publicly smeared because of his work choices and relations campaign which was actually a fantastic idea.

Most people here insult America not because of your policies but because of the arrogrance of your people, eg "America is the greatest country on earth" I personally have no problems with America, we need more big personality in politics like you guys have, even though people like Trump are completely fucked at least he's willing to actually speak out about shit, breaking political correctness.

>>16952375
I have. It will be done so fast even if they have a gun they won't have time to use it, we're going to get the gear decalled with "Police" which should add some confusion to the situation.

If they're police informants I will literally throw the fuck up. This is more about anti vigilantism than theft. Not to take the moral high ground but I work in the mental health field, every day I see new kids between the ages of 8-16 who've been using meth on and off for years, it fucking sickens me, they're completely fucked and will never get their lives back on track, they don't know any better and these sons of bitches just take advantage of them.

If I had it my way I would kill every single one of them but that's a huge step up from what we're doing. We will be breaking a lot of legs.

>>16952376
What do you mean by that?
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>>16952419
>What do you mean by that?
People that have that kind of cash blow wads on stupid shit all the time.
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>>16952419
>I work in the mental health field
>I have half a million dollars

I see your bullshit anon.
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>>16951147
Contact a lawyer
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>>16952439
Oh. Then yes you could say I'm new money. A lot of it is spread out in investments. I wouldn't call this stupid it's something that has been on my mind for a long time.

>>16952448
I obviously didn't make it through my job. I would post a picture of my bank acc but I'd rather not have any evidence that could bring this back on me, the police informant guy has got me thinking, it would make sense that that's why they haven't been shut down yet.

And I could give two shits about what some random guy online thinks.
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>>16952453
Don't worry anon, I'm rich too. See this pic of my bank account? We all know you're a broke aspie cunt looking for attention anon.
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>>16952463
Totally.

In other news I just battled a fucking funnel web for half an hour.
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