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I feel like I have to choose between being good looking and everything

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I feel like I have to choose between being good looking and everything else.

Men don't pay attention to me unless I'm wearing makeup. But when I wear makeup I can make $1000 stripping on a Friday night.

I have a high IQ, ADHD. I take a long time to do things and generally don't like to be told what and when to do things. I like to let my interests come and go naturally. I've always been a procrastinator.

First two thirds of a semester I will spend time to look great. My professors loved me because I would get amazing grades, show genuine interest in the material and even privately correct them during office hours.

During the last third of the semester I burn out. My grades slip from the high 90s to the low 80s. There will be a time that I go bare faced to school because I couldn't spend 20 minutes on makeup when I have time restraints, or because I look SO tired that I actually look better with my glasses on because it hides my eyes a bit. I WILL NEVER FORGET THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTMENT ON THE FACES OF MY MALE TEACHERS WHEN THEY SEE MY FACE WITH GLASSES AND NO MAKEUP.

I quit school because there's no point in going when I feel tired and look ugly and can't socialize as well when I look so different than the image people are used to.

I guess my plan now is to keep stripping and spend my money on an ADHD life coach and plastic surgery. I will also follow people while they do their jobs to get an idea of what I would be comfortable doing as a long-term career.

Pic related. It's Jennifer Tilly. I'm part asian and I sort of look like her except with big far apart Britney Spears eyes that swell up and look like vaginas when I get tired. I look very adult. Non-neotenous.

Should I just... give up? Start a new life as an average looking woman?
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post a face picture with no make up. Your probably not as a bad as you think you are.
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>>16501853
You're overthinking things. Speaking as a pretty girl in STEM, I don't believe that most of those things happened to you. Like I said, you're likely just overthinking things mixed with an insecure personality.

If you care so much about what men think of you, you are going to have a bad fucking time. Do what you love, give no fucks about what people think about you. It's worked for me so far.

>non-neotenous
+1 for that, are you a bio major?
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>>16501853
>I quit school because there's no point in going when I feel tired and look ugly and can't socialize as well when I look so different than the image people are used to.

Holy fuck you are a cunt.

School isn't for looking cute and socializing it's for fucking studying.

Just be a stripper or whatever, I dunno what you were studying, but it's shit like this that makes me feel that women should not be in allowed in the professional world.

I wouldn't want the fact that you don't feel pretty one day cause you to make a mistake killing me in surgery, or fucking up some important safety mechanisms on a machine causing the death of a worker.

Just stop already.

Stripping is a lot easier
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>>16501875
>it's shit like this that makes me feel that women should not be in allowed in the professional world.

Top kek, you realize that women have statistically higher marks than men and drop out way less often, right?

If you're going to sexist, at least do it right, fag.
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>>16501853
Well you're rambling all over the place, but let me see if I can get some points across:

▲For straight men, attraction is something purely physical, anything else is just an extension of that.

▲Yes, you will get more attention, much much more, when you dress provocatively, including your hair and makeup. Although you will still get attention with no makeup and bedhead because you are a woman.

▲There' no point in school period unless you're training for a specific occupation or your school has excellent networking opportunities. Otherwise, degrees are so inflated no one cares anymore, and employers would rather hire someone with experience volunteering/interning and genuine interest than someone with a diploma looking for any damn job.

▲"Life coaches" and plastic surgery are absolutely retarded, you will end up looking disgusting and having wasted enormous amounts of money on both.

▲Since you're already stripping, why not just go do porn or something and make even more money? I think paying for porn, strippers, hookers, camgirls, etc. is the lowest of pathetic things men do, but apparently they still do and its a viable option for women who get sexual attention.
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>>16501884
Yeah because gender studies is so tough.
Men and women on average study very different things. We are different from one another and make different choices when it comes to what we want to study, and how we choose to handle the college workload
Fuck off.
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>>16501884

>Females actually majoring in anything worthwhile ever

They may as well be unicorns. If you're one of the few, good on you I guess.
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>>16501853
How much do you charge for a half hour? Do you give hand jobs or blow jobs for extra? Do you allow touching?
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>>16501901
Even assuming equal opportunity and equal enrollment, the way academia works favors female tendencies, and also audio/visual learners. I highly suspect OP is also a kinaesthetic learner, as I am.

>I take a long time to do things and generally don't like to be told what and when to do things. I like to let my interests come and go naturally. I've always been a procrastinator. Also, this is literally me. ADHD is a bullshit diagnosis for healthy people who have a problem sitting in a desk for 6 hours a day and learn things by thinking about and embodying them, not reading, writing and memorizing shit.
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>>16501907
>psychology isn't worthwhile
>social work isn't worthwhile
>education isn't worthwhile

I don't understand this mentality. Of course it's fucking important to have these services, they're absolutely fucking crucial. If they didn't exist, we'd be totally fucked as a society. And you must not be in college. At my state university, women absolutely dominate STEM. In fact, I've met more male psychology and lit majors than female.

Also, I wonder why health professions is on the lower end of the regression. Not really sure what you're trying to illustrate with this graph though. Women on average have higher IQ scores than men anyway.
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>>16501926
The graph plainly illustrates that the majors most of society would consider to be difficult coincidentally has large concentrations of men and people with a high IQ (Not that pattern recognition means anything in the real world).
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>>16501907
By the way, from the author's website:

>The answer comes from the fact that the IQ score here is estimated from the students’ SAT score

>estimated IQ

The statistician in me cringes. Correlation doesn't mean you can use two things interchangeably. I don't buy it, the author seems like he was purposefully creating bias.
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>>16501853
>I can make $1000 stripping on a Friday night.
I am so fucking jealous *crying emoji* Wtf. As a man, I look at strippers with such fucking envy. You mean all I have to do to make a G is dance around, lead men on, and then use the bouncers if shit gets dicey? AND they all do drugs and can sell them to me??? PLEASE GAWD Y CANT I HAVE THAT LIFE.
>I WILL NEVER FORGET THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTMENT ON THE FACES OF MY MALE TEACHERS WHEN THEY SEE MY FACE WITH GLASSES AND NO MAKEUP.
Are you sure it's not because you were an A student and they have to watch you degrade into a B or lower because you go full fucking lazy ass on them...? That would disappoint me too.
>Start a new life as an average looking woman?
Wtf are you even speaking on now lady. So you don't look stunning with makeup. UHHH so what? I don't look as stunning either now that my hair has started to recede and I'm bitter and angry about life either but shit still needs to get done. I can't just hole up "OH GAWD MAH HAIR!" I still need to get laid and shit.

I think you're putting too much of an emphasis on the negative here. You get to blend in when you want as a normal girl... you get to be hot when you want with makeup... you get to make a fucking G in a NIGHT (blah) when you want AND you can put in some effort and get A's while you do it.

I'm not seeing the problem here. Go live your life and be a fucking boss.
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>>16501941
Oh I see, I didn't catch the "%" on the x-axis.

I mean, it isn't coincidence that men are drawn to more quantitative majors, but the author even admits that those points aren't even actual measurements of IQ, they are estimated IQs based on SAT scores, which is less than credible. Also, these aren't even taken from individuals in that major, they're taken from 17 and 18 year old kids whose INTENDED majors were the ones listed. Did you even read the study? It reeks of bias and nonparametric methods.

It's also been shown that women on average have higher IQ scores than men, where men have more extreme tails.

So, in the end, what's your point? If you're trying to make the claim that men are more intelligent than women, you won't find (credible) data to support it.
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>>16501959
never did i think i'd see the day where someone would finally make a compelling argument against that wretched graph

hats off to you anon
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>>16501875
>School isn't for looking cute and socializing it's for fucking studying.
Yes, ideally school is for studying. In my defense, I was on track to become an accountant, not a scientist, engineer or philosopher. Also in my defense, I was always in the top quintile in my class.

I was pretty helpless feeling when I chose accounting. I thought that I couldn't do something I loved because those types of fields are either too stressful/competitive or they don't pay well enough. I wanted a well-paying job I could do even at my lowest, and people told me accounting or optometry. Stripping is a well paying job that I can do at my lowest, and I get to be hairless and sexy all the time! But now that I have money, I realize that what I really want are great relationships and an interesting career.

My main problem is that I don't know what to do for a career. I could dedicate myself to life extension and transhumanist causes. But I can't choose a career until I spend a day with someone in the field. I'm just not sure of what I want to do.

But I'm sure that I want to be able to be as sexually effective as my future guy's favorite porn star... and that's going to be really hard if I don't focus on my looks while I age normally.

Being constantly ready for sex is great but stripping is pretty embarrassing and I hope there's a better place for me out there.
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Men usually prefer women without make up. It looks real, natural, beautiful. You don't need it.
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>>16501901
>>16501907
>>16501941


50 years ago men dominated those fields that are now female dominated and swore that women could never be psychologists, or professors, or work in healthcare. Furthermore the % of women in those fields is growing yearly. Not to mention of everything on that list philosophy is the most useless, easy, and full of bullshit and oh look it's dominated by men.
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>>16501853

>im so smart and so pretty
>im literally the perfect girl
>b-b-but I'm just such a perfectionist I can't make it work.

You're a dumb bitch who isn't smart at all trying to justify your shitty line of work.

>in b4 "m-m-muh constant 1k nightly job"
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>>16501884

>(majors not stated)
>w-w-well i-t-t's not like S-s-stem's any harder t-t-t-han g-g-gender s-s-studies
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I don't understand, it's not that hard to look good, or at the very least, put together.
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>>16501908
$200 for half an hour. It's a full contact place so they can touch my body. Not my pussy.

I've made a guy jizz in his pants with my hands but I'm not going to disrespect my other strippers by getting jizz on the floor. I've had offers to go to hotel rooms but haven't gone. I don't want to be a prostitute because I only want to have sex with a boyfriend that I choose, and I don't want the stds that go through condoms like hpv and herpes. A girl I know has a strain of hpv that gives her warts on her feet and hands sometimes. I've always been clean and never been pregnant. I want to be a good object. One of my biggest fetishes is sexual objectification, which makes stripping pretty hot sometimes. Right now I have a boyfriend but I'm not going to be with him forever because he has some abusive tendencies and we're just not right enough for each other. But I don't feel ready to dump him and start dating again. Or stay celibate, or have casual sex.
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listen.
I'm a girl too, and you're right that things tend to "go your way" a lot more when you look pretty. When I get all dressed up, it's like playing life on easy mode. People offer to buy my lunch for me, people start up conversations randomly and want to be friends, and buisnesses/school automatically treat you with more respect.

That being said, NOT wearing makeup doesn't make life HARD, it just makes it regular. THAT is the life that ugly people have to deal with every day, and they can't escape it. Don't use that as an excuse to quit things, because you're just making excuses. Things come easier to beautiful people, but that doesn't mean that you're unlikely to succeed when you don't look your best- you just can't expect it to be handed to you on a silver platter like it normally is.

And please don't get me wrong- I know you work very hard and struggle like everyone else. All I'm saying is that you CAN overcome your obsticals, but you have to WANT to, even when it's harder than normal. Right now you're just making excuses, but you have to accept your short comings and learn from them if you ever want to do better.
1) get on some medication for that ADHD
2) lose the "I'll do what I want when i want" attitude. The sooner you realize that the world doesn't revolve around you, the better.
3) study harder. One reason why things get harder later in the semester is because the information piles up and you're grades on more than the basics. If you study some every day (discipline) then this change will not affect your grades so severely
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>>16502145
>I don't understand, it's not that hard to look good, or at the very least, put together.
Well, it kind of is when you're a half breed whose genetics don't match. I have big asian face bones but I'm missing the cute excess fat that most asian girls have on their face. My eyes are caucasian looking but they really have a completely different visual impact when I put on natural looking eyelashes that don't stick straight down.

I'm sure you guys have seen pictures of asian women on the internet transform themselves.

I just want to have the best sex I can have. But I feel sexually inadequate. Every man I have ever had sex with has been disappointed that he can't make me orgasm. Only I can do it. Why would a guy want to fuck me for the rest of his life when I can't even have an orgasm on his cock? It sounds like I'm exaggerating the importance of this but I can't stop believing that it matters a lot, more than my looks... I mean it generally gives me self esteem issues. I KNOW MOST GIRLS JUST FAKE IT but if I concentrate on a fake performance I won't be able to enjoy the sex as much which really defeats the purpose. And I feel like he would be able to tell I'm faking and hate it.
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>>16502208
You know eyelash extensions are a thing, right? They last a few weeks. And if you're dressed well, which doesn't take much effort, no one's going to care
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take a semester off, save up all semester from being a slut, dont slut it up as much next semester and use the time off to not be ugly. wow that was pretty complicated to think up
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ok /adv/ i know you're all here to help but this post is clearly a bait

>men don't pay attention to me but when i wear makeup i make $1000 stripping
>i have high IQ and ADHD
>plan is to keep stripping and spend money on ADHD life coach and plastic surgery

ok. this is some shit bait. don't feed pls.
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>>16502239
This board will literally bite any bait
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>>16501853
"I have a High IQ"

Top kek
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Here, look at the difference a little bit of effort makes. Except it's not a little bit. Half an hour every day adds up. Half an hour every day just to feel like I'm not bothering people by showing them my naked face.
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Baby girl,
Find a balance, please don't go down the road. I'm a boy we get turned on by the anything and everything. From one mixed breed stripper to another.
Own your genetics, learn to sell them. Certain people will be attracted because they will want your genes (children)

Don't do porn. Those guys are really boys who have a lot of money and a broken heart, so they take it out on face fucking videos.
Make your money, go to school and walk away from the game.
Well be the new academics of the future
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>>16502291
>>16502280
stop fucking feeding an obvious shit bait
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>>16502163
not gonna lie, making a woman cum is exquisite
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>all these basic white girls pandering to a mongrel half breed

how low
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>I quit school because there's no point in going when I feel tired and look ugly

You don't have a high IQ, no fucking way
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>>16501853
>Previously star student starts slipping grades, comming in looking like a wreck, obviously not getting much sleep
>Lecturers feel bad for her and show it
>OMG, THEY DON'T WANT TO SLEEP WITH ME WITHOUT MAKEUP!!!!!
Check your narcassism
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>>16501853
I cannot believe how much you are failing at being a woman. High IQ? You do not sounds intelligent at all.

How about you NEVER wear make up and just go to class? I understand that professors might seem to like you more when you look better, that is a curse you'll sometimes have to deal with as a woman. However their sexist idea of women should not affect your career path or daily routine. You should be wearing make up for you and not to please the world around you. You are more than your looks. Your looks are fine, own them, don't hide them away behind make up. I can't believe you dropped out of school because of this while you were such a promising student.
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I feel for you girl, My gap went from 3,85 to 2 point something, for always being late since always trying to look my best.
Just do whatever makes you happy. Try to look at yourself now as if you were 60 years old or something. If really you will be happy after some surgery I say why not? The important thing here is to do everything for yourself, not for other people. If you are happy with yourself and others are not, just fuck them, then. If academy will make you happy stick with it.
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>>16502558
>makes 1k a night (literally a weeks worth of salary for low end professions)
>is still perusing a backup career path
>has a very legitimate emotional predicament concerning interaction with very a fucking irrational and intellectually fallible populace and seeks minor advice

>BRO NO WAY U HAVE A HIGH IQ NO FUCKING WAY BRO

worthless low iq subhuman vermin detected
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>>16501884
lay two bell curves over each other, cut off the left 50% of men that dont want to study stem and the left 90% of women who dont want to study stem, what is left?

Top 10% of women comparing themselves to the top 50% of males, if you are not in the top 20% of every class as a woman, you are doing something wrong...
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>>16501875
This.
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>>16502132
this

intelligence without willpower is worth nothing
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>>16501853
>I have a high IQ, ADHD.

If you had a high IQ you wouldn't believe that you have a fabricated "disease" that was voted into existence by a pseudoscience.
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>>16502208
orgasms take two.

took me 4 month to make my GF cum for the first time, but since then its steady 1-4 orgasms every time we fuck.

And the hardest part for us, was her ability to let go, go learn that
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>>16501875
actually this

your selfishness has cost you both:
>a (respected) career with a school education
>the self respect that comes with being content on who you are

you have become the defined embodiment of a female.
none of this can be changed. not even plastic or gender reassignment surgery
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>>16502731

>I make money undressing

thats nice honey no one cares
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>>16502784
>your selfishness has cost you both:
>a (respected) career with a school education
>the self respect that comes with being content on who you are

I don't personally respect accountants more than strippers. I respect Edward Snowden etc.

I dropped out of school because being a stripper is better than being an accountant.

If I actually do find my passion, I am wondering if I should just start out as the girl on the bottom, or if it would be smarter to put in the time to look like I do in the top picture here:
>>16502280

But it's not just my face. I have to pluck my eyebrows, mustache everyday, I have to bleach my sideburns, chin and mustache every week. I am an extremely hairy woman, with pubes coming out the sides of my underwear. If I didn't spend 2 hours every week on my body hair... I really would look like a monkey version of a hot girl. I bleach my stomach, cleavage, nipple hairs once a week, I have to wax my arms, legs, pussy. So I obviously want electrolysis (I can't do laser hair removal because it will give me permanent white skin. It's called hypopigmentation and I have a white spot on my knee that is prone to skin cancer now.)

Sex is really important to me. It's probably my favorite activity. I just hate how much work is involved. I feel like I've been trained to think misogyny and sexual objectification is really hot and I just want to look like the girls I masturbate to. Do I need to retrain myself sexually? Am I too naturally ugly to have this fetish? I think about trying to become a gentle dominatrix because it would just make my life so much easier. I mean, fuck, is this kind of glamorous misogyny ruining my life? My brain won't cooperate with me. Evil porn gives me the strongest orgasms.

Ex. http://furthereducationforwomen.tumblr.com/

Pic related: I let my legs get really hairy one time
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>>16503662
your sick perversions are controlling your life.
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why don't you find another thing to study instead? and/or why don't you use the money you make and what you already know, and start from there?
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As a college student and "ex" stripper, this post makes me so sad :-( I just wanna talk to you fr. The future is is your hands baby girl. What's your location again?
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Become a nurse. Stop worrying about your looks. And stop doing drugs and needing to be codependent with a quasi abusive guy.
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>>16504943
hiiiii. Canada.
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>>16501853
>Men don't pay attention to me unless I'm wearing makeup.
No, men don't pay attention to you if you look like a crack hoe outside of makeup.
Take care of your body and you will need makeup less often.
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>>16505122
>Take care of your body and you will need makeup less often.
It's the opposite. I get really thin and my body looks amazing but my face looks more gaunt.

Not saying her body looks amazing but look at ufc strawweight champion 28 year old Joanna Jedrzejczyk. So healthy. But her face would look sooo much less crack hoe-like if she gained 10 pounds of fat.
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>>16505193
What am I fucking saying, her body looks amazing. Just not in a really typically sexy way.
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>>16505122
More advice from the girl that tells balding men they need conditioner
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