How do you stop wanting a grill you have no hope of getting with?

>>16461345
walk up to her and tell her

the age old question

but yeah it actually might help to tell her

>>16461345
you move to other town, college or change you job place

>>16461351
>>16461347
oh...oh god no, I can't do that are you crazy? She has an escort of "Chads" at all times and I'm pretty sure she's involved with this 6'5'' looking wigger who randomly spews rap lyrics in an attempt make her laugh, she deserves better I can tell she's smarter then the people she endures because they look good, I was simply speaking in terms of my own coping with what I can't have.

>>16461361
Her beta orbiters will tremble at your feet when you go up to their Queen and ask her to bang

>>16461372
I was going to say they were all alphas but technically they are betas, there's only 2 real threats, her wigger bf who still sags his pants past the age of 20 and this other uber Chad football player with a nice car and she even called him smart, I think she's crushing on him a bit, he's a bit of an attention whore and confrontational. She sometimes randomly asks we shit like she wants to open up a dialogue of some kind, but at one instance she turned right around and ran to her bf. idk she randomly said something depressing and I agreed with her at one instance, I can't even be sure she was talking to me, she was the only one around. She's started making eye contact with me more, I'm not the best looking guy though. idk, I'm a neet going back to work after a long period of giving up on life, I'm basically having middle school issues in my head.

>>16461405
You are

But once you talk to her you can see the actual person and not the image you have in her head

Or the embarrassment will naturally kill all feelings for her

Or you get laid eventually

All in all; you can't lose

>>16461407
I guess you're right. It doesn't really matter, if her bf has a prob and he assaults me or something then he will just get fired, or she rejects me like pond scum and my insecurities are confirmed. Or she stays friendly and friendzones me and I stay crushing. Or they all team up on me and give me a wedgie while she takes cell phone pics. In any case my real issue is having no direction in my life and being poor and in debt.

>>16461418
you should probably focus on the debt instead of the girl

but you already know that hombre

>>16461345
You nut up and try to befriend her/get in her and, if you fail, you tell yourself you tried your best and failed. Then you learn from it and look for new women. It might help to break down exactly what you like about her and then look for those general qualities in other women.
>>>16461361
>She has an escort of "Chads" at all times
So the fuck what?
>she's involved with this 6'5'' looking wigger
Again, so the fuck what? Girls with loser boyfriends can't have friends?
>she deserves better
NO she doesn't. At all. She deserves exactly what she's chosen. This line of thinking - that you know better what's best for her life like you're her father - is self-serving and toxic. The only reason you're having these thoughts if because you want her to want you. Get over your childish shit right now. She deserves what she's chosen and, if what she's chosen is shit, then she deserves shit. You get me? We are what we eat lol.
>I can tell she's smarter then the people she endures
Smart girls are the most dangerous because people usually go for what they don't have. Smart girl? Probably goes for thugs. Thug girl? Probably goes for buttoned up white dudes. I see it time and time again, even in myself. I love ghetto bitches and they love me.
>ber Chad football player with a nice car and she even called him smart
Yeah she's projecting. See above. She wants him to be smart because she wants his dick, kind of like you want her to be some kind of goddess because you want her ovaries. Footie with a nice car probably isn't smart, just like she isn't a goddess.
> I'm not the best looking guy though
Doesn't really mean shit in the whole "attraction" picture. Sure, everyone wants someone hot. Everyone. But there's much, much more to attraction than looking pretty, especially when it comes to getting in her mind.

Control her mind, not her body.
>Lies to herself that Chad Footie is "smart"
>Lulz, she just doesn't want to trade down so she projects

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>>16461427
Yeah. I know, but still, I just get envious I guess y'know? Me going back to work has been a mental roller coaster for me, I was thinking about suicide daily for a long time especially recently. I feel like I'm dying to connect with people, I started smoking just to have an excuse to make small talk with the barely english speaking employees and they all avoided me because they're retards who do drugs at work. I'm so godamn lonely Pegasus. I think I'm macking on this girl because sometimes she says things like "I wish I had wings so I could fly away" and people don't really know how to respond. I became a little obsessed I guess. I miss college even though I fucked it up and had trouble with feeling comfortable around people, there was a real sense that we were connecting, but they were all from another planet then me it felt like, so I got scared and isolated, because I couldn't match them in their...amazingness. I was homeschooled and have a lot of holes in my education, I had trouble in school a lot and in my family. I am maladjusted to life, a case of arrested development. I just think about killing myself to end the worry, to end the mental clouds, to end the cycle of clinging to false hope and losing it.

>>16461430
thanks for the good advice, and I agree, we all lie in the beds we've made.

You are probably out of your league bud. I know thats not what you wanted to hear but just endure it right now and it will get better you will adventualy lose interest.

Feels bad man.

>>16461430
>>16461458
> "I wish I had wings so I could fly away" and people don't really know how to respond
And there's your in to start connecting with her. You think these other fag boys know how to emo? They don't.

Realize though that you need to spin it as "I get you" NOT "You can use me as an emo tampon when your chad boyfriend doesn't understand." Big difference.
> I got scared and isolated, because I couldn't match them in their...amazingness
hahaha homie they're not that amazing except in your mind. Trust me, if you were this girl fucking them and seeing them every day, you don't view them as "amazing." People are people. We all shit and smell bad and act like fucking monkeys.

It sounds like you need find some inner worth. Valuing yourself is important to your life and your game with women. Maybe you should focus on yourself - read, work out, find out what your passions are and pursue them, educate yourself, etc. It's work but I guarantee you that it will bring you inner satisfaction. I get up every morning and flex in the mirror. I don't give a shit if anyone else thinks what I see is hot - I think what I see is hot because I remember what I *used* to look like:
>Used to be 150 lbs
>Now I'm 180 bitch.
Why should I feel good about myself? Because one day I decided to put on 30 pounds of muscle and, lo and behold, I fucking worked my ass off and did it. Because I'm fucking awesome.

Getting stared at is also a daily boost. I felt the female attention increasing as I crossed lines..160..170..180, female stares just kept ramping up. Trust me, work on your fucking self. Be proud of yourself for what you've accomplished by yourself.

>>16461488
>And there's your in to start connecting with her. You think these other fag boys know how to emo? They don't.
kekk

also congrats on the 30 pounds of muscle damn

and you're right, I need to develop a sense of self worth somehow, I need to DO something

>>16461500
>I need to develop a sense of self worth somehow, I need to DO something
That's the fucking spirit! hardest part is getting started/showing up. I read you're poor - internet. Interneeeeet. You can find most tools to educate yourself and expose yourself to what's out there on the internet for free. I seriously started on fit just reading through shit and making a plan.

You've got this man. And, during your journey, please don't compare yourself to other people. Your journey is about YOU. Be proud of what YOU can accomplish within YOUR limitations.

You are the captain of your own destiny. You can't choose the ship you have or control the waves on the metaphorical ocean, but you're at the fucking wheel turning left or right, speeding up or slowing down. Control what you can control my friend and good fucking luck.

Make these bitches recognize. /coachrant

>>16461516
thanks man I really needed your coachrant, I'm going to save this page.

Hey dudes, firstly really awesome responses. Secondly,
You sound pretty intelligent just unstable about certain things (the taking up smoking thing showed the common sense level of your average ISIS goon). About the education, pretty sure if it's in a social environment the importance of it has been completely watered down and least of all she isnt going to give a shit provided you are interested and funny as fuck. Seriously If there's one thing I know, It's that everyone (even the most bitchy disgruntled women) are a sucker for good humour. You come across as probably quite a 'hoot' and down to earth to ME at least If you're going to tackle this head on, just relax and yes "be your fucking self". That way you sure as hell won't feel as shite if and when she rejects your mediocre then you sure as shit wont feel as bad than if you were impersonating chadswick and the gang, sweating more than a gypsy with a morgage at your insecurities. Just remember, you never ever know until you try.
Best of luck dude,

>>16461488
Yo dogg, it's always nice to see actual advice on adv, thanks for effortposting

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>>16461458
>she says things like "I wish I had wings so I could fly away" and people don't really know how to respond

I do, tell her to take responsibility for her life

>I am maladjusted to life

Says who? There are people on Earth that eat each other, cut each other's head's off, rape children, steal money, have sex with animals...the list goes on

>end the cycle of clinging to false hope

This is what happens when you spend more time thinking about life instead of living it

You know what you need to do

Lower your debt
Get back in school so you can get a career
Stop doing drugs (its a waste of money)