His art is actually just shitty. I can get that some people have weird fetishes, but as someone else said, most of his stuff is just shock value disgusting. If his art were of just normal porn then no one would care. Everything about his art feels gross from the content to the actual style.
>>789664 His game are fucked, I visited his steam once and said hi. I dunno how the fuck he can even read and do art at the same time through that cesspool, but he said hi to me. One of his game noticed I had a star beside my name and stayed following me, steamed later that day and the fucking fag stated asking me for Inside Out Riley getting farted in her face masterbating. That's the kind of people he attracts, spergs.
Shad can draw well sometimes it's just he fucks it up with his disgusting fucking fetishes like feet dogs loli's incest The weird fucking heartpounding thing vore scratch marks mutation shit aswell He can draw well it's just he wastes his fucking talent
>>787545 I like some of his work. Thing about Shad is that he covers a lot of ground, and weird/extreme fetishes. He's going to have haters no matter what he does. The occasional artistic mess up doesn't help.
>>790568 Holy shit, that's fucking incredible. I don't even know what to say.
'shadman is shit because he has shit fetishes xDDDD' Firstly, if that's your reasoning then fucking kill yourself you fucking nigger, secondly, an artist drawing porn of a fetish you hate doesn't make their art bad because of that, you nigger.
Shad is shit because he sucks ass at anatomy, all of his characters look the same, shading is pretty terrible, and makes each a character look like they're covered in oil.
>>787793 So every artist has to have perfect anatomy to be good? You're view on art is boring and narrow minded. And you're going to shit on him because someone pointed out a flaw he supposedly had in their eyes and he didn't sell out and change it? You're opinion isn't fact friend. I'm not being a white Knight, but I am trying to figure out if there is a reason for the hate beyond petty jealousy and a hipster mind set. People like to use shading and coloring as general terms to describe flaws in his art but then never follow up with how it's actually bad. It's like saying a wall is built wrong even though you know nothing about how a wall is built. Give me a real argument beyond color shading and anatomy because if every other artist in the world apparently does the same shit the same way then I'd like to know how he's doing it worng.
>>790335 Its less fetish edgy now, but its still stupidly cringe edgy. I cant even look at half of his drawing because its all r34 that he decides to make way out of character for whatever subject he draws. The one Tracer comic being a good example of this. Abandon the art style for your own? Fine. Abandon the style and the character's personality? Then what is the point of making rule 34? Just make your own shitty characters so its not so polarizing.
I dont want to go into detail about his art style itself, save to say that i dont like the proportions he gives to women. Obviously I think the writing is awful.
He's obsessed with ass holes and stuff that comes out of ass holes. Near every pic by him has stupidly detailed assholes whether on a person or an animal going *wink* *wink* like we get it, you like tonguing unclean ass. Not to mention scat/fart garbage he's done in the past. Disgoostin.
Honestly, the thing that kills it for me is the cocks on every single damn thing he decides to draw. Is it a preference or something? If it Is then go ahead and draw it, man. Just don't expect me to stay when ms. Tattoed anus tonguepuncher is running around with a thick, 10 inch cock.
>>787545 The last hetero thing he's done was a loli gangrape. He makes everything edgy/covered in piercings/freckles on ass(really? Who gets sun on their ass without just a flat tan?) Then EVERYONE gets anal piercings and a dick.
I don't like Shad's art because it's just anal-related fetishes, loli's and horse cocks. I'm not into that shit. Plus, he's very hit or miss. You can tell when he's being lazy when he just re-uses the same poses from previous drawings. He just never seems to improve because he doesn't care and all his fanboys are always telling him how amazing he is. He can't really draw anatomy (he never learned according to his video) and adds way too many details to the point where the drawings look grotesque rather than sexually appealing...this applies to his pin-ups as well. It's also weird how despite him not being interested in real life in the fetishes that he draws (according to his video), he continues to draw them over vaginas. I really wonder. He also draws the same characters repeatedly. It doesn't matter if they're popular. Shad fanboys will devour anything he draws anyways...it's awesome that he does this for a living...but he's just not a great artist.
>>800783 He also said in his videos that his whole motivation behind art is exploring and expression fetishes of all kinds. I like Shads art, but certainly not all of it. Some things turn even me off, but looking past it the quality of his work is still there.
>>789673 That's like saying a 4 year olds art is only bad in comparison to Da Vinci No shit it's bad in comparison, their are millions of other artists that are better than shadman, we already know that. But that's not enough to say that he's just a bad artist
>>803073 If you're turned off my a specific fetish what's going to compel you to continue viewing the piece, let alone praise it? Try viewing porn that gravitates towards fetishes that wilt your dick and come back to me without being biased.
>>803085 >No shit it's bad in comparison, their are millions of other artists that are better than shadman, we already know that. But that's not enough to say that he's just a bad artist
That's literally the definition of a bad artist you full spectrum mongoloid. He's stayed bad despite years of "work" because gore/scat fetish retards like his crap that is marginally better than most of the garbage they wank to so he pretends his hugbox of tasteless fans are his only critics.
>>804640 >>804641 This is the weird sort of doublethink that you faggots always have.
>HE'S ONLY POPULAR BECAUSE HE DRAWS 'X' >HE'S NOT ANY GOOD AND NO ONE SHOULD LIKE HIM
Clearly he's one of the most successful internet artists out there, so it's undeniable that his art is good. If it weren't good art, he wouldn't have so many strident followers, plain and simple. Your criticism is just sour grapes.
>His anatomy, lighting, and perspective are shit, and that's 99% of drawn art. Evidently not.
I have never paid too much attention to this artist, but I've seen tons of his stuff around. His art has some element that's extremely off putting for me.
Looking at it now, I think it's a combination of few things. Stiff poses, fucked up anatomy stacked with weird proportions. Also his coloring is absolutely overfucked with shine everywhere. Coloring seems to consist of a cell shaded base, which he just smooths out a bit and then throws in a highlight. His linework looks like it's been drawn with the pen tool and the line width is practically same all over the place. No lineweight whatsoever. Not to mention the heads which all look like they came from either Incredibles or Frozen. That all put together creates something that looks borderline disgusting.
>Clearly he's one of the most successful internet artists out there, so it's undeniable that his art is good.
It's been shown over and over again that people seem to care more about the art upload frequency, rather than actual quality. This guy seems to be drawing hell of a lot of content. Combine that with somewhat right elements regarding art and you have tons of people with zero artistic vision, fawning over the sub-par art.
>>787545 I like a lot of his work to be honest. If he got away from sniffing assholes, spitting, bestiality and characters getting hit/beaten he would probably be in my top 5. He just seems like he's trying to be edgy to hard.
>>787545 He can't keep his mind set for more than 5 minutes at a time and he must have the god-damn attention span of an 8 year old. "Hey gaiz I am really on a roll with this theme, I feel like making many mo... oooooohhhhh what's this thing over here?!?"
>>787545 I hate him because he thinks that we like some shit we don't barely like. So he keeps posting the same motherfucking sketches in a motherfucking loop with the variant of a penis in some of them.
I think you're mistaking 'I would, and have frequently, jerked off to this' and 'this is high-quality art'.
I genuinely have no idea why the fuck you would do that.
Your critique of his art style as art is pretty fucking spot on, though, especially the thing about the lineweight. His poses have definitely improved, though.
I think my biggest problem with people who hate on Shad (and artists like him) is that they come in two varieties: peopel who find his kinks distasteful and people who 'criticize his artistic technique', and honestly? The latter group irritates me a lot more. They approach his work with this whole 'art is aaaart' mentality, ignoring the very real fact that porn explicitly has a function. Judged on his merits as an artist, he's thoroughly average-to-above-average (bitch average is so, so much worse than you people fucking pretend), but judged on his merits as a pornographer, he is deeply proficient.
>>787545 Because he is popular enough while not being good enough for his popularity(in most people's opinions ) People, especially failed artists are very catty and jealous of people who succeed Also because he caters to fetishes other than their personal ones
>>803062 >I'd like to know how he's doing it wrong. k >So every artist has to have perfect anatomy to be good? Yes thats literally one of the fundamentals which makes a artist good, o is being able to render and do lines. Explain how it is not? > People like to use shading and coloring as general terms to describe flaws His method of airbrush shading is deemed very simple and will sometimes resort to pillow-shading(however this is quite rare and I personally don't have a problem with his rendering) His rendering style never uses highlights either One of everybody's biggest griefs with shad is his refusal to get better. The only "improvement"/change I have seen in the past 1.5 years of his work is his hair and him copying sakichan and abusing the Chromatic Aberration (I think it is called) which looks like shit on his pokemongo series.
>Give me a real argument beyond color shading and anatomy His line art weight control is complete shit. >>809730 Is proof of shitty pillow shading/rendering which alot of artists need to stop doing. Has never drawn an actual pussy that is correct(but who cares) Almost always goes for the most trending topics so shadshitters can spam his art
>>813299 I like his pinups too. Not crazy about most of his hardcore stuff because at the end of the day, even if I ignore his more unsavory stuff, he's obssessed with anything to do with ass, and I prefer breasts and vaginal stuff.
>>797301 Thanks for keeping it rational. I'm actually interested in learning the same thing. Aside from his personality I enjoy shadman so I would have been interested in the specifics of why he's considered "bad" from a technical perspective Too bad your repliers didn't have anything to actually contribute.
>>814886 what if you're retarded? his artstyle, shading, proportions, and anatomy are all terrible. both /pol/ and tumblr hate him and they're complete opposites of eachother. All that says is that shadman is objectively a bad artist.
I find his anatomy terrible because it's intentionally bad. For every one image he makes with correct anatomy there's twenty with just awful proportions intended to shove boobs and/or hips where they don't belong. It fucks with the perspective of the piece and puts him behind a lot of other artists who can't do anatomy for me because the characters often seem to be floating in front of the scene, not in it.
I don't like his shading.
I don't like the shock value a lot of his stuff has. It got old after the first 20 images I saw and I know he's still making shit like that.
I dislike his focus on rimming.
I dislike that everyone he draws he has to give bedroom eyes, awful makeup, or some sort of piercing.
On the subject of piercing, anuses should not be pierced.
His coloring makes everything look like rubber except the faces.
I dislike that his fans keep jumping into threads and posting shit tons of shad when they know most people don't like his stuff.
There's plenty else I don't care for but I don't know how to articulate it.
Itt: Retards who think for even a moment that a fetish artist (which Shad is) give the slightest fuck about realistic anatomy in the first place, given that he roll the dough doing just the opposite and has been for years, long before most of you fucks even first lurked around here
Beside, he pretty much all commissions so if you're angry that he doesn't make proportionate art then fucking pay him not to do so then tell him he can post it on his site, Jesus.
Fucking insufferable faggots are becoming worse each and every year it seem. ''my way or no way!''
To be honest I think this is it, for some reason internet sjw LOVES to falseflag/pretending to be the one they despise as some kind of ironic comment or to take back at then for some unrelated perceived wrong, seen it happens shitload of time, especially back in the days that /q/ was still a thing. I mean the majority of the rants in this thread look like they were copy-pasted straight from another thread, they are so formulaic its kind of weird. Also all this whining about the ''edge'' sound like it came straight from normalfags (sidenote: where the fuck these ''normie'' and ''shitposter'' term came from in the first place? There was nothing then one days faggots started to post them all over the place, sound like some kind of forced meme gone sour), because to be quite honest among fetish artist shad is tame/vanilla as fuck, horsecock is probably the worst you'll find on his site and if you think drawing this kind of shit make him an edgelord, then gtfo this website because else you'll find out that the rabbit hole goes far deeper than you'd have first believed.
>>815074 Thirding. Actual examples beyond "Hurr durr I think it looks bad" would be nice. Also, lets face it, most of the people bitching about how terrible his art is still fap to it and don't even care.
All of his drawings have the same faces and body features. There's no variation, just that signature rat-face. Plus the trashy edits are usually fucking nasty I wouldn't really give a shit if his art wasn't everywhere with "new" ones being pumped out every other day, but dammit he's gonna ride that money train until it stops and I can't say I blame him
He tries to be like ShindoL with his shitty ass fetishes, but his porns are just too ugly to fap with.
Like, with ShindoL, although most of his works are soul crushing and fucking evil, I can fap to it even though it's not my fetish because his arts are that good, but with Shadman, his stuffs are plain ugly to begin with before you deal with his """""shocking""""" fetishes.
yeah, shad isn't a great artist, possibly even a retard(if what was said about his mom was true) see>>790568, but he makes decent porn and that's about all there is too it. i'm not sure why people are freaking out over him/hate him. i know the typical response for a fan is to say that the detractors are "just mad cuz x is successful", but considering this is 4chan, I wouldn't be surprised if that were accurate.
Nothing against the guy. I think he should work on his anatomy, but he's far from terrible and most of the criticism I see is just from people who don't share his fetishes. That's fine, but why the fuck are you looking at art you don't enjoy in the first place? It's like looking at gay porn when you're straight and complaining that it's bad - it's not, you're just not the intended audience.
I used to think he was okay, nothing special, but not awful, but I've recently started becoming a lot less forgiving of his failings with anatomy, bad line work, inconsistent proportions, etc, etc. All the usual generic complaints already outlined in this thread.
Though it's not just him I've started hating, I scrutinize my porn a lot more now for whatever reason.
>>787545 he's trying so hard to be edgy cool yet it's all so fucking cringey, he does shitty shock value drawings, he's into gore, incest, beastiality, paedophelia, rape fetishism, etc.
he's got such a large following even though his art is so fucking cringingly terrible. i don't know how he's been drawing so long and still hasn't improved (though i guess he's like brokenteapot/michaeljlarson in that regard).
he puts himself forward as some kind of brutal memetic god but you know he's some closet stick figure cuck who skulks the schoolgrounds on weekdays.
even so, worse than shadman are the people who defend shadman.
>people only hate him cos it's cool to do and cos it's a meme and they don't really hate him cos they don't think for themselves-
no. no. he's a bad artist. full stop. all of our reasons are entirely justified, and your trump supporter mentality of 'they just hate him cos someone told them to' is retardedly blind. go now gladly go perform a self-adminstered post-birth abortion
Aside from the general weirdness of the shit he draws, his art's just really not that great and he never improves. He relies too much on putting tattoos, piercings and freckles everywhere to make his art stand out and make all the flaws less noticeable. I guess you could say his art is "stylized" a certain way and it doesn't need to be realistic but sometimes he draws really weird and inconsistent body shapes which just looks off. Asses that start near a girl's shoulders, perspectives that make no sense, that sort of thing. It's like you're watching an MC Escher painting with all kinds of impossible shapes going on. It's not a good thing.
Also, I can already tell from the three or so pages he's made that that comic embodies everything wrong with Shadman's stuff. Now all he has to do is not actually finish the comic and it'll be perfect.
>>825605 >mentality of 'they just hate him cos someone told them to' is retardedly blind
Of course there are people that don't like his artwork because of the quality, but he used to have a lot of support for his art. The fact that everyone did a 180 is because its cool to, not because they finally realized its shit.
Shitty inconsistent light sourcing Shitty proportions Shitty anatomy Shitty faces Shitty perspective Sucking on an asshole like your mouth is a vacuum cleaner Don't even get me started on everything wrong with the central right panel. That face is reaction-face worthy and anyone who's jack off to this must be blind coup,led with the downs.
>his anatomy is bad I'm not going to defend shadman. Because he's an edgy cunt,with art that becomes less and less appealing. But seriously why the fuck do you guys care aboutthe anatomy so goddamn much? Is there even a point to care? Anime girls have gallon tier tits and nobody bats an eye but Jesus h fuck if a western artist draws em holy fuck he's the Antichrist of porn. Do you guys just sperg out over western porn or what?
>>819182 Where did you get this? The version on his site doesn't have the fucked up leg. I mean, the sketch version made by another person has the broken leg, but the finished version done by Shadman doesn't.
>>816355 Incase has great anatomy and rendering, his scenes are well fleshed out. BUT damn if that nigga don't have a sameface problem. Like every woman has to look middle eastern with a big hook nose and thick eyebrows.
>>790355 reasons why i love shadman >>anal piercings >>futa >>every girl has freckles, mascara, and is ripped af >>overwhelming amounts of loli and bestiality Awesome artist, will never understand why people hate him
>>829732 >If you can't make it then that means it's good XDXD That's like saying someone driving a Dodge Viper should be happy with a PT Cruiser because they personally wouldn't be able to make either. You can critique something without actually being able to do it. See: Competition figure skating
I dislike Shad's art mostly because of the moral hang-ups I have with lolicon. However I think I have a hate-crush on him? I find myself looking at his page regardless of how upsetting the content is, and I've dreamt of meeting him and having nice conversations.
>>787545 I wouldn't call him good, really, but his art's improved over the years and occasionally he makes stuff I can appreciate. Yeah his anatomy's usually ass but it's porn. I don't analyze this shit.
>>787545 So to summarize this thread: OP: Why do you hate shadman?
Anon Group (A40%: he's ok but I wish it was more vanilla (no weird fetishes and no gore) Pro tip never go on >/d/ Anon Group (B40%: he can't draw and has no skills I mean look at this (insert pic) Anon Group (C20%: hur dur hate-train he just as good as (insert something) just assholes here Anon(me): welp back to >/h/
Shad isn't an asshole but his art is way too hardcore for my liking. And a lot of the time it's rather an eyesore truth be told. But sometimes he does bring out some nice gems but that's becoming rare nowadays.
Wonder if he let the fame get to his head, which wouldn't be surprising.
Just fucking look at it. It's shit. It's fucking terrible. And no one gives a shit. Ya know why? Cuz it's not popular. But Shad is popular. So autistic hipster faggots scream and cry and pitch a bitch fit about shad being shit.
People who have some kind of problem with Shad around here are just fucking hipster faggots. Fuck them.
>"Hey guys why do people dislike shadman?" >His anatomy is bad >His Fetishes are omnipresent and terrible >His lighting is fucking weird >"No, it has to be that everyone hates him because he's popular. They're just all telling me the same things because it's a meme!"
1. alot of his art is western art and 4chan is full of weebfaggots.
2. he doesn't drawn alot of waifu's, thus pissing off 4chan.
3. He doesn't care what other people think, thus 4chan thinks he's edgy.
4. He's well known, 4chan hates people more successful then them.
5. He pretty popular on twitch. see #4
Basically he's pretty good and alot people are jelly.
some of his stuff i really like and some of his stuff (like the bestiality, tranny, etc) i really dont like. But i dont bash him for the shit i dont like, because he makes shit to suite all different types of tastes.
4chan is full of autistic weeb faggots that hate on western artists.
>>788746 Okay regardless of the main subject matter of this thread and what direction it goes, this comment alone proves your under age and a virgin...or really old and an unedicated virgin, or you are an slien meat popsickle
Lip biting is a common arousal reaction for female humans.
Fon't even watch porns, just go to a busy restutant at the mall if you are too young or go to a bar if you are old enough and observe new couples just hooking up or are recently bf &gf.
>>807314 Honestly this is the real reason why people hate him.
Everbody else would be shallow faggots if they just hated him because he's drawn every fetish under the rainbow both colors and shades we can see and what we are not meant to see...but ever single rule 34 artist on Hentai foundry eventually dose futa and other fetish art.
Hell Freako once said he would never do gay art or even strait makes fucking female anuses, but after five years he dose futa and other fetishes just like everyone else.
>>814886 ...so this board is full of jews who are angry at shad vecause of that Anne Frank comic, like a decade ago?
Damn, jews really never learn to let go...most of you on this board are almost three generations removed from that, it reminds me of that .webm of a jewish kid crying over a black guy with a nazi shirt talking him fown and saying hail hitler.
his faces? i like them his fetishes? my fetishes as well he also mostly does goth girls which ae a huge turn on
but where he completely fucking fails is the anatomy, and specifically i mean the vagina. he just has no idea how its connected to the torso. all his vaginas appear to be ball sacks with a slit. he also makes this ugly line between the bladder and vagina area. he also kinda makes every character a midget for some reason
shadman's art is superior quality to most of the garbage in the r34 community
shadman's edgyness is refreshing because it doesn't take itself seriously in the slightest
shadman's fetishes are tame to say the least, when considering that the current front page has 2 fat threads and /d/ has fetishes that are utterly incomprehensible (vore, slob, etc)
anyone who criticizes shadman for any of the reasons above is taking part in a dumb meme to score points in the /aco/ circlejerk, if any of you downies actually cared about his art, his fetishes, etc you wouldn't touch /aco/ with a 10 foot pole.
his last like 20 posts have been loli. And i despise loli. im slowly giving up on him. I dont get why he cant just make normie shit from time to time. why does every girl have to be an underage child with a dick. Makes me Mad
>>787555 Isn't gore, incest, and beastiality why people jack'n off to cartoon porn? You can't find that with regular porm, so to fulfill those fetishes, you have to turn to cartoons. You are telling me that you only wank it to vanilla, consentual cartoon porn written for the purpose of procreation? Because that's even fucking weirder than any of those fetishes
>>858851 you know, i keep trying to have a more positive view of humanity and toss aside my old misanthropic ways, but look at what i have to work with. we have created a society that finds that funny and/or arousing and/or a remotely good idea.
>>865641 >Nazi themed getup and styling >Reaper accent >Reaper is a nignog >Still retains Overwatch logo instead of Talon/Anything but Overwatch Also >Clunky Beretta ripoff... I think >Italian firearm produced post-WWII >Not Luger/Walther/Mauser or any other firearm actually used by the 3rd Reich Bruh.
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