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Previous Thread: >>743580

Shill yourself
Shill others
Discuss lewds

Remember commissioners, not only is it welcomed to post your images, it's encouraged.

The Google doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18JG-7pSJNx8XE5qwAay8I_iJUsfpOFSY8NJcj4_8pDA

TotT
Commissioners: Who would you personally recommend?
Artists: When drawing are you an ass, dick or breast man?
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Posting some images so this thread doesn't get deleted.
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I'll shill myself again. You can see my works over at http://bluevp.tumblr.com/
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Friendly Reminder that you don't say "I do pretty much anything" unless you actually understand exactly how deep the "anything" rabbit hole goes.
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>>755033
So what exactly has an "I'll draw anything" artist turned you down for?
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>>755041
Heterosexual sex in the missionary position with lights off and hand holding.
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to the man who asked last thread when I posted this

I am snafu

snafu-art.tumblr.com
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>>755010
Yo, this is me! Neat! I should note that I've also got a couple of other commissiony deals (i.e. 40 bucks for an elaborate piece rather than a doodle, a 5 buck discount on shortstacks because they're SO SMALL AND CUTE, discounts on reeaaally weird shit because god damn must getting porn for shit like loli bimboification hypnosis hyperinflation with mexican sugar dancing be hell, so on), but this... comically half-assed and rough ref sheet gets the gist across.
Also, I personally prefer asses/hips/thighs/the lower body in general, but above all, I love crazy character designs! Silly size differences, xeno and creepywaifus, shortstacks, baras, - cartoonishly exaggerated proportions and unusual fellows are really what I like.
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http://loshmik.tumblr.com/
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Shilling time.

Commission info
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097
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>>755033
I am willing to draw just about anything. But, that does not mean I accept every job that I am offered.

And yes, the everything rabbit hole is a deep one.
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I'm doing $15 line-art commissions at the moment! Email me if interested!

[email protected]
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Shilling~
Doing a $20 pinup sale for a short period, and all my commission info can be found at sucre-boo.tumblr.com/commission ~
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out of curiosity, how much business do these threads actually end up generating?
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>>755336
Seems to be a fair amount for at least a few artists.
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>>755336
It's done a pretty good amount for me, personally- people here have been really great for helping me out with my medical problems, and everyone's been incredibly nice to deal with. I don't have very much experience with commissions, but I can safely say that this thread's got the nicest patrons I've met so far. I'm just glad I followed my hunch and came here!
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>>755336
Almost all, if not all all of my business came from these threads. To me, they've proved exceptionally good
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Shilling for this guy, go give him your shekels

http://draks-nsfw-doodles.tumblr.com/
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>>755336
I've had a few, posted the non loli/shota stuff to tumblr.
Have been working continuously with commissioners from here to do a series of sketch for them.

McDollArt.tumblr.com

Still only doing pencil work, about halfway to my goal for the purchase of a tablet.
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>>755020
Interesting to see someone else posting my work
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Still shilling, 4 slots open
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>>756486
And my latest commission wip
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>>756489
How much is that one?
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Hey guys, I just wanted to say thank you guys for the criticism. I will make sure to keep in mind of perspective and lower proportionate anatomy in the next few drawings I make. And more advice would help me improve vastly.

If you guys want me to do commissions. Contact me on here or contact me on:

Tumblr: Darnoc001 or Ryutaro-Nakayasu

(Private Chat)
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First time shilling, but I could use a project if anyone's interested.
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>>756607
This one is going to be full color, so $80 after the background fee.
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>>755336
I have managed to get 7 commissions from 4 clients so for just form the commission threads. And i only started doing this like a week and a half ago
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>>756489
Oh lala. How did I miss this gem. Are you planning on coloring it?
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>>756712
Yep! Starting on the flats tonight but eventually it will be full color like this.
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>>756425
Again, not my colors
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So many artists I would love to commission if I could justify the money but I think I've spent like $200 in the last week on this.

How does anyone else ration it?
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>>756874
Get rich.
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>>756893
Even if my salary was doubled, I wouldn't want to spend $300 on cartoons fucking each other.
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What are your quality standards (not including price)for commissioning an artist? Maybe i'm just picky, but I haven't seen a single person in these threads that i'd spend money on.
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>>756929
I don't understand how Shushup and Snafu aren't high enough quality. Can you post examples of what you're looking for.

>>756486
>>755051
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>>756874
You should donate plasma for that sweet blood money.
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>>757003
I've tons of free cash. I just think there's a limit to how much you should throw at commissions.
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To anyone who is curious for semi-cheap commissions. I am willing to do commissions for about 5$ to 10$. Usually only do Vanilla and Yuri Pics. If you need to hit me up. Contact me on:

Tumblr: Darnoc001 (Private Chat)
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>>755055

Huh, your interests might line up awfully well with mine then.

Do you have a gallery, like a HF, or a tumblr, or a website or something to check out?
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Here's everything i've commissioned so far. Any thoughts?
https://inkbunny.net/usergallery_process.php?user_id=89162
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>>757098
Where are the vaginas and penises and anuses?
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>>757098
I really like the peridot stuff
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>>756943
I'm flattered, nonny, but we get this same troll wvery thread
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>>756874
I spent my commission money on onaholes and lube. But without my commissions, I've nothing new to fap to.
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>>757101
Soon...
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>>>755055 (You)
Jeez, I knew I forgot to link something! Here's my FA ( http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pocketsizepenguin/ ). Used to have a tumblr, but it slowly faded into an updateless purgatory.
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>>757084
>>757308
I... i think i'm retarded
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why don't none of you fucks make strong lines without doing chicken scratches or clean up work

jesus christ you people are shitters you can be living the mega-neet megabux lifestyle but your art is straight trash and you wallow away asking a brother to spare a dime

read some loomis and do some actual character studies so that maybe you'll be able to get out of the sub-$30 commission shitting fields
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>>756773
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>>757423
Umm... what?
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/gallery/
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Shilling with a recent commission because, well, why not?
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>>755336
Seems to be a fair amount for at least a few artists.>>758078
I like the sluttery. Is your comm info in the OP?
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>>754964
2D game devleloper lookin to comish.
any brothas comfortable making assets for flash games? These bitches need to be animation friendly. So either good looking sprite sheets or vectors drawn at 3/4 angle would do. I also have a game development project that requires full-size renders of a male protagonist and the 8 females he intends to bone. Send e-mail to [email protected] for some more info and to post your prices.
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>>758094
It is now! Kind of put off doing that for a while, but I've finally tossed it in there. Thanks for the reminder~
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>>758078
More of this, please.
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I'll post the finished piece later once I get word about the colors back
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Also prices
>>755013
>someone saved this
Cool
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>>757445
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>>758441
3 other slight alts on my tumblr
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>>758442
I like your style but $170 for a colored two character piece is fucking insane
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Shilling to do commissions. As long as its not pooping, diaper, futa, yaoi or lolis. Will negotiate for pricing.

Tumblr: Darnoc001
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>>758966

Scratch that, might negotiate for Yaoi and Futa depending upon conditions and situation.
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>>758442
Do you get many commissions? I'm thinking of raising my prices
>>756486
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$5 sketches, color is cheapo.

Rule 3, yadda yadda: http://imgur.com/a/tykih
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Requesting Mary and Johnny Bravo making sex together with this position.
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>>759165
This ain't a draw thread. You gotta pay for the goods here
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>>758951
That price is maximum detail. Prices are negotiable.
>>758977
No, don't really get a lot of work. Don't advertise a lot and I don't really need the money.
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>>759227
There are also far better artists in and below your price range.

I can't honestly imagine many people paying the prices you ask for your work.
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>>759227
Unless minimum or moderate detail drops the price down to $30-50 for two characters, that is still fucking insane
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>>759165
you must be new here
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>>759165
>>759177
>>759294
Ok, ok. I'll pay you $5.
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>>759398
NOW WE'RE TALKIN
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>>758442
I can commission someone actually good with those prices. Fuck off and never draw again.
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>>758972
Will work for between 5$ to 20$ depending upon drawing commission and work.
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>>759484
no need for that here anon
do you have some actual criticism?
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>>759165
>>759398
Ill do it for 20$. it would be done as a sketch like this
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>>759572
Nah, fuck you. If they can't see what's wrong with those prices, then they don't deserve to get sales. Fucking stupid cunts.
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>>759583
there there, get it out of your system
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>>759572
What about his comment disqualifies it from being "actual criticism?"
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>>759572
Simplistic coloring, bad lines, but most importantly, proportions. It's like you don't know what bodies look like. You have women with heads too small for their bodies coupled with arms too long for their bodies.

All of this could be forgiven, but the prices... one should always be proud of one's hard work and expect fair compensation, but those prices are exorbitant. And to almost double the cost for an extra character is absurd.
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>>759644
an extra character is twice the work, why shouldn't it be twice the price?
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>>759640
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>>759644
even if i disagree i can respect it because its not blind rage.
usually prices /are/ nearly doubled for another character, and as for proportions, the only one i see a problem with is the pink one on the right, who appears to be a monster girl and drawn intentionally that way to highlight her muscle mass.
as for price, its a free market anon. if hes successful charging those prices then he has a right to keep at it until something forces him to change the prices
unless you havent been paying attention hes been only advertising 10 buck sketches so he might change things up soon
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>>759647
Not necessarily. If I wanted a piece of, say, voltron fucking Bart Simpson, which character was more work - Bart or voltron? Because they certainly aren't equal. (And yes, I am aware that the other artist says more detail costs more, but I used those characters to make the point.)

Moreover, my issues with the prices come with the quality, issues I've already mentioned. It shorter be twice the price because, personally, the art is simply not good enough to justify it
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>>759707
Shorter? Thanks auto correct. *shouldn't
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>>759663
He's still a dumb bitch for having those prices in the first place. What a fucking idiot.
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>>759663
On principle I could appreciate you attempting to be a voice of reason in this matter but literally anything that is said about an artists work (hyperbolic as it may be) is infinitely more useful than your platitudinal statements concerning the free market.

Even if someone says "go fuck yourself your art is shit" it still speaks louder and rings truer than you wasting time defending a person from the most important thing in the world to him.
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>>759726
to be fair i hesitated typing that out.
thanks for seeing the reason in things though, ive said enough.

>>759716
see
>>759630
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>>759579
Well, ok.
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>personally offended by my prices like they can't just go to someone else
I don't get it need a lot of work. I used to have super low prices where I was pretty much working below minimum wage. I got a lot of work, but it wasn't worth it. I'd rather not have super low prices and then raise them. So I have super high prices that can be deflated. And with my limited time I don't have a huge stream that I'd be too busy for.
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>>759647
I think it's a better business practice to offer a discount on subsequent characters. While it ends up being just as much work as two separate pieces, it's enticing for a commissioner to spend the extra money to get two characters in one order. Much like any other store where you buy something and get roped into buying more of it because it's a good deal.
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>>759779
>personally offended by my prices
Don't flatter yourself. People are shitting on you because your art is genuinely seen as not being worth the price asked. Though I'm sure you'd practice more were you not so busy, right?
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>>759801
>majority of the discussion is about the prices
I actually read the thread.
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>>759822
Is this one of those things where you're going to just pretend to be retarded? If you're subconsciously omitting from this thread any implication of imperfection in your art then I'm not sure what you actually saw in those posts you said you read. I'm guessing you just assume people saw a series of numbers after a dollar sign and went ape shit with absolutely no other contributing factor whatsoever?
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Just barely finished this commission. It took almost a month longer than I intended...
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>>759872
There's a line under the prices people seem to have disregarded entirely.
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>>759894
You prices being "adjustable" is clearly not doing you any favors if everyone disregarded it. From the outset you're charging people an absurd premium for arguably subpar work. Starting a potential transaction off on such a sour note isn't going to encourage people to negotiate terms and find an agreeable price when art of similar to better quality can be obtained for a cheaper (and set) price.
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>>759878
Love the color.
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>>759918
Subpar is a great drescriptor. Not much of an assessment and very telling about how well you understand art.
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>>759919
Thanks
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>>759927
>I'm going to charge ridiculous prices for mediocre art and go on 4Chan to pretend to be a smug artiste
>"you just don't get 'art'."
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>>759927
This is why people just tell you to fuck off and call you a cunt.

Since you actually read the thread I'm sure you saw that someone took the time to outline obvious flaws in your work which I assume you humbly appreciated and took to heart.

My understanding of art has absolutely nothing to do with this matter since I'm not critiquing your art right now, I'm critiquing your business model and overall presentation of your product. Take your shitty attitude over to /ic/ where your betters may take the time to redline your pictures and offer you the constructional/presentation prowess you currently lack.

In fact, "subpar" is a fine descriptor and assessment of your work in context. It is below the expected standard of your pricing tier when other vetted (if not legitimate professional) artists are within the mark of your asking price.
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>>759927
>guy writes a novella explaining why you're a retard
>continue to be a retard and grasp at straws to discredit it
10/10 would laugh again my man
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>>759779
If your art looked like something by JustMeGabeNewell or someone like that, then the amount of detail would make a price of $100+ somewhat expected. I'm not saying your art is bad, but it's just not worth that much. For example, pic related charges $60 for a colored image and $20 per extra character.
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>>759927
Nah fuck off.
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>>759989
I charged 30 for the last pic I did and I provided a few alts, but I don't care to make a lot of business. Commission work is not a viable form of income, not with the market the way it is. There are people demanding that I charge a set amount for my work based on other people. I make my prices based on how much time it takes to do a piece and what I want an hour. People are disregarding that not everyone works the same way, or are in the same kind of situation. I'm not the greatest artist ever. I just don't feel like getting paid the same wages of someone working a job that requires little to no training. If folks don't feel like even negotiating with me I don't want to spend the time talking to them. So far everyone I have had the pleasure of working with has been exceedingly civil, which I assume comes from them actually having the money to waste on me.
Let me reiterate. The full prices are not just for the character, it's for background and detail. Everything is negotiable. The fact that they've ignored the $10 sketch advert is also telling of how inane these people crying for a more affordable market really are.
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>>760034
It's never been more affordable or convenient to commission talented artists at all levels of cost. Good warmup for the gymnastic qualifiers coming up though.
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I do boring stuff and pinups

$25 for full, $10 for line-art
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>>760287
Oh
[email protected]
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>>760287
Like this?
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sorry if this question gets asked a lot drawfriends,
what kind of tablet do you use? how much did it run you?
obviously i cant do the $1000 ones, but can professional/semi-professional work be done with anything else?
i know i have potential and im interested in getting one to bring my art to the next level, any advice would help
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>>760472
Hey, I've got a shitty 40-buck monoprice tablet. Anything can work; the tools don't really make the trade!
,,,Although granted, I'm tiny. If you're larger, you'll probably have to look into getting one bigger than my 8 inch-ish one. Might want to consider basing it off how large you like your sketchbooks!
By the by, cintiqs might be worth it if you're the sort of person who can't handle the "disconnect" between the screen and tablet/have low spatial awareness. Those fuckers are expensive, though.
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>>760472
>>760472
Can't really speak about tablets because I'm not a drawfag, but I've seen most artist use the Wacom brand. I still see a lot use the Bamboo series, but I've heard the Intuos and its Pro line is what's "in" right now.
I remember there was one anon who was trying to trade a budget tablet for lewds in the previous thread. Brand name goes by Huion I think. I can't say how well they work but another anon vouched that it was okay, and an artist I follow uses the Pro version of one of their models.
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>>760472
>>760612
>>760617
Another Bamboo user here. It's what was available in college and it works just fine. You also don't ruin it if you spill something on it, unlike an intuos or any others with buttons on them.
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>>760472
I have one of these, I really like it.
https://amzn.com/B00EN27UC2
I think getting a tablet with a larger surface area is more important than the brand. The smalls are so cramped.

A few years ago Wacom rebranded the bamboo line to the Intuos and the old Intuos line is now the Intuos Pro.
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>>760034
Its not so much that we're ignoring the $10 sketch advert, it's more than your regular prices catch an anons attention more. Because they're fucking insane.

You want $X/hour? This is the wrong industry.
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>>760776
You have really poor reading comprehension.
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>>760804
Wow, great counter argument. "You have really poor reading comprehension." Shit, what a zinger. You really got me. Fuck. Your point is so strong. How can I come up with a counter argument? I concede. You got me.
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>>760472
I use the one you pictured. Got it from the Wacom site for, like, $80 new and have been using it for about 4 years now. It'll do anything you could want a tablet to do, but the drivers can be wonky sometimes. The hardware's great though.
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>>760472
I use the Wacom Bamboo Pen and Touch. I believe it was about $80 or something when I got it 4-6 years ago and it's worked pretty well for me
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>>760472
a Huion works as good as a Wacom and it´s pretty cheap, if you do get it just be sure to install the drivers before plugging in the tablet or you will have some issues, other than that 10/10
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Sorry to bug in. Still brand new and wanting to do commissions. Pricing ranging from $5 to $20, depending upon work. No real limit of how many characters. Only limit is no Scat, Guro, Swallowed up People, Lolis, or Diapers.

Everything else is okay.

Contact me on:

Tumblr: Darnoc001
Facebook: Ahab Dranco
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>>760999
anon judging from that pic you might need a little more practice before offering yourself for commissions
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>>760955
thanks for all the good info friendos
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>>755021
Dropping prices here to $20 for a single colored character piece for a while.

Just send a PM to my tumblr if you're interested.
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>>760472
I am this man snafu-art.tumblr.com and I produce all of my dickgirls fresh every morning locally on this premium wacomâ„¢ bambooâ„¢ tablet, equipped with the latest state of the art dogchewmark outfitted stylus and covered in aerodynamic dings and craters from when I drop my butterfly knife on it, because I'm an edgy teenager.

really as long as you have a tablet you can make it work, the only reason I want to upgrade is because the cable on this thing is like, two copper wires
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After a long series of personal issues, I'm back with a new tablet and ready to draw!
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Some people need to git gud or go cheap. You probably don't want to go cheap so why not git gud?
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>>760472
This is the one i use. It was about 150$

I would like to get one of the more expensive ones, but... well, im poor
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>>761234
I actually bought that one to replace my connect and found it to be smaller and made of cheaper material. And it's more expensive than the connect. I'd love to upgrade to the intuos 4 though. But same poorfag problem here.

>>761213
$5-30 is fairly cheap if the anatomy/style is decent. I'm sure none of us drawfags stop trying to git gud though. Commissions kinda help push me since I want customers to be happy.
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>>761251
>>$5-30 is fairly cheap if the anatomy/style is decent
It is, but some simply aren't worth paying anything for and the person needs to practice.
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>>760472
When I was looking for a tablet to replace my bamboo, the only thing I wanted was this.... Pressure sensitvity. Being an inker, this feature is very important for weighting your strokes. I have an intuos4. Expensive, but get's the job done good. You may wanna look into the tablet market. My note 4's stylus is pressure sensitive, now and a lot of surfaces and stuff are coming out with the feature. All of which allow you to go onto payment plans and stuff.
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>>761254
Of course! No artist should stop practicing because they take commissions. That's where commissioner preference comes into play though. If someone likes your style enough to commission you while you grow as an artist, why not do them?It's at least worth advertising around a bit.
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>>761268
Because not naming names but some artists seem to think people paying them means they're good enough.
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>>761234
>>761267
oh man its really gonna cost me a pretty penny...
>bamboo doesnt have pressure sensitivity
welp. intuos it is...
might have to wait until Christmas.

>>761272
please dont start this again
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>>761272
Fair enough. One of my biggest pet peeves is when an artist chooses not to grow/learn because they've gotten comfortable. But if they're getting regular commissions, its their prerogative to choose when/if they want to change their system and style. Being "good enough" is super subjective.
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>>761285
>bamboo doesn't have pressure sens
?!?!?!?!

I'm using a bamboo and it senses the shit out of pressure
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>>761285
>bamboo doesnt have pressure sensitivity

Dunno what that anon is talking about desu senpai, I use a tiny Bamboo and the pressure sensitivity is fine
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>>761324
oh.
what >>761267 said misled me, sorry.
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>>761326
there was some name change nonsense that went on, like the new bamboos are some shitty bum piss garbage and new intuos' are old bamboos, and intuos pro's are the old regular intuos'
cintiq is still sitting high up on mount olympus I think

I've had this in my amazon cart for awhile
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013STQI50/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_45?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AF67U0KS0E0QE
its what I would upgrade to if the cord on mine ever shat the bed, I havent looked into it for awhile but I'm pretty sure the pen and shit will take regular nibs or else I wouldn't have wanted to go with it. Plus it looks rad, it has 1024 levels of pressure sens which isn't as much as other tablets, but its what mine has now and I've never felt like I've needed to have twice the granularity in my pen pressure.
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>>761338
seems good.
im looking at this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wacom-intuos-professional-pen-and-large-touch-tablet-black/1680721.p?id=1219059639918&skuId=1680721

a bit much for a first tablet i think...but i want it
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>>761345
that is incredibly too much for a first tablet, unless you've already been drawing with ink and paper and shit forever.
It always makes me sad when the first thing a guy does is blow a paycheck on a tablet, draw for a few months, and then let it sit around for the rest of his life until he moves
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>>761348
alright alright then.
looking elsewhere, theres almost too much of a selection, im pretty lost to be honest.
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>>760472
I used to use a monoprice, which is pretty cheap. But I just got this one

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wacom-intuos-draw-creative-small-pen-tablet-white/4359302.p?id=1219736632620&skuId=4359302

I've only been using it for a week, but it has been great so far.
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>>761345
I agree with >>761348
An $80 tablet will work just fine for a few years. No point in blowing your load on your first tablet, so to speak. The Bamboo splash/connect or capture would be sufficient if they still sell them cheap.
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>>761364
yeah, I didn't have to deal with that because I just kind of got mine, my buddy recruited me to draw some shit for a bogus facebook game that shit the bed, and I got a free tablet and $1300 out of it.
I've used the same tablet since even though I've had enough money just off of porn saved up to buy a new cadillac of a tablet (I bought action figures instead)
As long as you touch the pen to the thing and pixels come out the other side you're set really, all the angle detection and 4069 levels of pressure sens, shit like that, you don't really need it.
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Shilling again. I could do with a few commissions.

Posting a few more.
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>>761533
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>>761535
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>>761536
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>>761324
Well they didn't when I had one, back in like 2011ish, that's when I upgraded to the intuos 4 and it's still working, so I love it. :D
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>>761533
>Good art with pricing to match

You... I like you.
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>>761533
Everything is good, but I think her eyes are a little too close together
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>>761550
Thanks. I do believe I'm in the affordable category, but my lack of commissions suggests otherwise.

>>761554
Might be true. But there's always room for improvement anyway.
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Recent commission I finished
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Doing Commission for between 5$ to 20$, would to practice more while being paid to do fun projects at the same time. (again, 5$ for sketch to 20$ for full color). I would appreciate the support if possible.

Contacts:

Tumblr: darnoc001
Facebook: Ahab Dranco
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snafu-art.tumblr.com

gonna shill
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Are there any artists you would recommend, with cartoony art styles and are willing to draw straight-shota?
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>>759989
Who drew that?
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>>762446
holy shit seconding this
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>>762446
Define "cartoony". Like, is Polyle cartoony? Is rule34no404 cartoony? Give me some examples of artists that qualify as cartoony.
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>>762450
>filename
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>>762446
I can't remember his name exactly but it was knullmannen or something like that
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>>762512
Hmm, well I mean like cartoonish styles similar to Aeolus, Goopygear or Garabatoz
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>>762555
Depends on the kind of /ss/, but Area will do cartoony /ss/ if the characters are about the same age and not brother and sister. Which I know is pretty rare for /ss/.
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>>760466
Finished Zarya waifu pillow commission, I'm assuming it was this post
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>>760287
This guy's legit. He won't bullshit you around if you want something simple.
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>>762893
My life is complete.
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>>762893
top fucking noooootch!
just to be clear, whos the artist? is it >>760287 ?
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>>762446

I know for a fact >>761111 will do it no problem.
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shilling with yet another comm! tf is a wonderful beacon of underrated light in this world.
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I'm back baby. Got paid and need another round of fun trap-porn. Rainbowflyer's been doing solid work, but if anyone else is willing I can branch out
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>>761063
Go on then bro, I'll commission you, I like your style. I'll be on your tumblr
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>>760472
>>761234

I work with it, which is now discontinued. I have it 10 years ago.
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>>763177
man that things seen some shit
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>>763038
That is some good shit right there
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im back :^)
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>>760472
Basically any $40+ tablet is going to be fine. You can do whatever you want so long as you work for it.
However, I recently (maybe 6 months ago?) splurged on a tablet monitor and I love it and have improved greatly since.
It's the perfect mesh of physical drawing and digital.
The one I got is actually really cheap compared to Cintiqs of the same size https://amzn.com/B015FP25V6
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>>762893
Yeah, who drew this?
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>>763130
That is some nice trap stuff.
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>>763245
JP, I quoted him underneath the Zarya pic
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>>763276
It is, rainbowflyer has really improved as an artist since the last time I used her, I just haven't gotten around to contacting her again yet
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>>762893
Really hot.
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>>762938
Aye friend. He's top notch. I got excited by these alone :D
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>>763177
The one i had before was very old and falling apart, so i was forced to upgrade.
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>>762446
I can do more cartoony stuff. I did this short animation for a client.

Here is my commission info if you are interested.
http://kingvego.deviantart.com/journal/Commission-Price-Updates-609092097
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I think this is finished, just waiting to hear back from the commissioner
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>>764014
I don't mean this as an insult. Your style reminds me of pictures on wikihow articles.
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>>764014
looking goo- >>764090
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>>758442
Only person I've seen that's worth it in that price range is Fred Perry or other top end artists. Fred charges 50 bucks for a single BW, and +50 for each chara thereafter, detailed backgrounds and mechana are considered a 'chara'. +50 for color work, but not for each chara in color.
This is by far the gold standard I'll consider when looking at an artist's prices.
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>>764014
3.) put your mouth around her niple and swirl your tongue to arouse her
4.) gently sprad her labiea
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>>764014
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks anon.
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>>764014
fucking lol

How much did you charge for this?
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>>764139
$80
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>>764142
This motherfucker turning shit into gold like it's alchemy.
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>>764142
>$80 for a traced picture of two generic women having boring foreplay

I'm going to lose my fucking mind
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>>764151
pricefag, you need to fuck off
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Posting a few pages of comic commissions

>one page
$30

>Additional pages
$25

>Every 5th page is free
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>>764158
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>>764160
Work in progress
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>>764160
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>>764155
Bootlicker, you need to fuck off.
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>>764161
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>>764158
>>764160
>>764161
You should really use a text editor for your comics instead of handwriting it.
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>>764151
pls go away pricefag i wanna have a good thread
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>>764165
Thanks for the tip. My handwriting is pretty shitty.
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>>764155
>>764166
>samefagging

"dont draw attention to my price gouging nooo:
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>>764165
not him but how would one go about doing that
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>>764166
>>764155
Pathetic.
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>>764170
Use an art program with a text feature, which is basically anything but Sai.
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>>764168
>>764171
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>>764168
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>>764175
lol
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>>764175
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>>764168
>>764171
>adhere to my rules or fuck off
>anyone that disagrees is the same person
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>>764175
>duuuur im a fucking retard
Yeah we know.
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>>764183
>you're not allowed to laugh at shit art for shit prices
>anyone who does is just one guy who is poor lol
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>>764188
>not allowed to tell people being assholes to fuck off
People can literally ignore the prices
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>>764191
People can literally filter posts that hurt their feelings.
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>>764196
We don't need too let pricefag think he can brow beat people either
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>>764185
>>764188
>>764196
pricefag stoooop
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>>764197
>it's just one guy!
>h-he can't keep getting away with it!
I always thought artists had thin skins. I'm surprised to find out it's just the people who jump in the line of fire to get offended on their behalf that make them all look like huge failures by association.
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>>764212
I'm sure you'll ignore this so this is more for everyone else than you. The prices artists set are at their discretion. You are not obligated to pay the prices. If someone wants to brow beat people over what they perceive as the wrong way to do things, the recipients of this misplaced ire are allowed to tell these people to essentially fuck off. So, you can keep "making fun of thin skinned artists and their white knights" and you'll keep getting told to fuck off. Your opinion is unnecessary and primarily antagonistic.
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>>764224
I love it.
There's even a cherry on top! How could anyone say no to that?
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Wip
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>>764158
Contact info?
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>>764250
[email protected]
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>>764238
You seem like a pretty unhappy individual so I'll take some time to give you a couple pointers that will help you out even outside of 4chan.

Artists set their prices and people purchase their work if they think it's worth it.

Someone makes a profane remark disparaging their worth of the aforementioned work.

Now pay attention here because this is almost where you come in. The artist sees the comment and either ignores it as blatant hyperbole or contemplates why someone thinks their art isn't worth the asking price.

The thread moves on and nobody cares.

At no point do you need to erupt with furious indignation because someone told a guy online to inhale a cock for charging x for y since at the end of it all your comment would be entirely as worthless as that of the antagonist.

Stop derailing threads by responding to bullshit.
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>>764257
And the guy making the comment can cease his actions. He doesn't have to be ignored and his actions don't need to be a simple "part of the thread." We can stop responding to bullshit when people stop with bullshit. Don't blame the victims for the shit the aggressors started.
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>>764257
>>764279
and now everyone stops and the thread goes back to normal phew that was easy
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>>764257
>Stop derailing threads by responding to bullshit
I'm a different person, but aren't you also perpetuating an argument by projecting that >>764238 is an unhappy person and talking down to them?

I get wrapped up in things and like to have the last word as much as the next person, but this all seems a little ironic. We're talking ourselves in circles.
I think we can all move passed this and enjoy the art posted.
That's all the arguing from me, I'll sit the rest out. Peace.
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>>764241
This is looking pretty good! Might want to soften the point on the nose a bit (unless an exceedingly sharp nose is her thing!) and fix the funky geometry going on around the chin, but this is looking preeetty solid to me~
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>>764316
Thaks for the feedback!
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>>764241
Wow
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Instead of being annoyed at the pricefags calling out shit tier artists charging ridiculous sums, why aren't we annoyed at the shit tier artists charging so much? Surely that benefits us all , if we can get on the same page.
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>>764669
You're not allowed to ridicule an artist despite the fact that they want to be taken seriously while conducting business.
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>>764669
>almost 3 hours after the arguing died out
Besides, to each their own. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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>>764759
No, anti-magic rays are in the eye of the beholder. I mean, the main eye, anyway.
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Artistic tastes are subjective. Prices are subjective. Let's move on.

>>764241
This is coming along nicely. Do post whenever you finish it! I'd kill to understand how values work like that.
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>>764800
Nice tits and expression! I like your use of pen pressure and line thickness, too.
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>>764669
because they're not shit tier artists charging ridiculous sums, you're just a big meanie head bully for thinking this >>764014 isn't worth $80
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>>764669
>calling out
You are a delusional fuck pricefag
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As the latter half of this thread really been one protracted argument over what one anon thinks about the price of something he didn't buy?
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>>764931
Apparently it's his duty to call out people over charging for art and if people disagree or make an argument against it they're retarded. Gotta obey the mighty pricefag
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>>764937
...right, new term. Just say it once and move on, there's price schemes I don't agree with but it's not like you can't save or look elsewhere
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>>764931
>>764937
>it's just one guy
Why is it always this way of thinking?
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>>764954
As far as it looks, it might be two. However, there's a clear pattern that there is a primary pricefag and a secondary that backs him up. Simply placing them both under the same banner is a means of disregarding their individual efforts and making it easier to deride their efforts in a manner that outsiders can come in and see there is more of a concrete force behind the idiocy than a simple anon being a sperg.
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>>762893
contact info?
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>>764959
>primary pricefag
>secondary
>backup
Have you ever considered that you may be just as bad as what you're criticizing? You make this sound like some kind of elite shitposting operation carried out under government orders or something.

Whatever the case thank you for letting me know to just hide any posts that contain the word pricefag if I want to continue browsing these threads.
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>mfw I got 800usd last month for doing 5 commissions

Damn how can people get so butthurt over 80-fucking dollars?
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Who would draw a good Princess Peach?
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>>764689
Where's that rule?
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>>765045
Some people are really poor or cant draw for shit.
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>>764959
>I thought it was one guy but now I'm going to bullshit some excuse about a concerted effort of disregarding individuality to save face and sound like a pompous faggot
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>>765045
your artwork?
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>>764959
>deride their efforts in a manner that outsiders can come in and see there is more of a concrete force behind the idiocy

The lengths you're going to just to convince yourself you have any power here is staggering.
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Who are the best artists for bondage commissions?
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Anyone shilling who also writes vignettes/scenes/stories with /aco/d/ elements?
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>>765128
No one has power here. Priceefags are fine and dandy. As long as they understand they deserve to be what on.
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>>765067
No one said there was one guy. It looks like there's more than one person. It's the priceefag that acts like anyone disagreeing with is a same fag
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Here is a commission I finished today.

>>765237
And, I don't know if she is still working, but [email protected] has done writing for me in the past.
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>>765305

I have to second [email protected] . For me, She recently finished what had to be an insanely difficult commission: huge (over thirty pages), a ridiculously strange/hard-to-convey fetish, and an insane number of crazy external challenges. Never the less, the finished piece was just amazing. It's probably my favorite commissioned story, and I commission *alot*.

Considering how many people write smutty stories, it's crazy hard trying to find writers who take commissions. It seems weirdly counter-intuitive that it would be easier to commission great art (as seen in this thread) or even video clips with penetration(!), but that's been my experience. Perhaps because the barrier to entry is so low good authors end up being drowned out and just give up?
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>>765045
I cant and wont speak for others. But as an australian, with virtually zero options to get lewds drawn within the countery any niggles I have come not from the artist price, but what my shit eating dollar turns it into. I can pay anywhere from 31 to 50 dollars for a 30usd piece and when that starts to ramp into the 80's it can be deeply frustrating.

Also some folk are just povo as fuck, I find and stick to artists cheep and good enough to regularly use. No more cupcake 100+ kangaroo buck pieces for me
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>>765330
Writing probably has more issues. You can draw just about anything to a persons liking. But writing that thing in a way that gels with the commissioner's vague internal vision is likely pointlessly hard
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>>765335

I think almost all mediums suffer from the "vague internal vision" problem. I'm not sure writing has a distinct disadvantage in that regard. I know a number of examples of artist taking commissions that ended up being terrible jobs because the the provided description was literally impossible (i.e. a character was described as towering over another yet as being shorter). In terms of geling, every artist has a horror story regarding a commission with a vision so specific only an "old masters" level of photorealism would satisfy.

Maybe writing is worse off here because the changes *seem* smaller or people think (falsely) good writing is easier?
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>>765145
No one has any suggestions?
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>>765636
I can do this
starting a 15$ for sketch
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>>765636
I don't have recent samples (pic from about a year ago), but I'd love to draw some bondage.
Prices are here: >>756660
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>>765305
>>765330
Yeah. I think some trucker broke her hip or something. But she still did my weird /SS/ shit no problem.
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>>765664
E-mail?
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>>765793
[email protected]
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>>760287
>>760292
>>762893
Would you be fine with drawing petplay?
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>>765733
Listened to myself. Drew light bondage (and chub)!
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>>764014
>>764142
>mfw

I shouldn't even be surprised. Normies are retarded.
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>>766269
Fuck off pricefag
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>>766269
Oh my god pricefag fuck off stop this brow beating right now you can't keep doing this!!!!!!!!
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>>764014
Holy shit, I love your Wikihow drawings!! I had no idea you drew porn, just hope the staff in the site doesn't mind it.
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>>766414
I won't let you get away with this you sorry fool.

DELETE THIS
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>>764669
>why aren't we annoyed at the shit tier artists charging so much?
What amount would be too much for those artists?
Like, what would be a fair price for something like pic related? I currently charge $5 for these.
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>>766425
I'd say $5 is a little too low for that. you could get $15 easy.
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>>764014
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>>766432
10 at most. The anatomy is eh, and its just monochrome. Only real selling point is the nice head and expression.
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>>766461
Enough is enough pricefag! We get that you're poor and have nothing better to do but WE OF THIS THREAD will NEVER stand for this!

>>766465
Watch your tone. I don't want to see you making a victim of any more artists around here.
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>>766472
wut
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>>766461
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>>766432
>>766465
Thank you both! Yup, I still have tons of things to change with anatomy (among other things) so I need to consider this when I re-arrange my prices.
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>>766533
Still up for suggestions or you really hurting for a commission
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>>766552
Anything helps! I have some commissions at the moment but I'm always lurking the drawthreads too. http://amigodan.deviantart.com/journal/Commissions-Status-update-625921999
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>>765347
Could be. I've never actually paid for a writer before so I'm running on blind guesswork here
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>>765055

What do you want to see her doing, anon?
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>>766198
pretty damn good.
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>>766461
god dammit Pricefag is an asshole but i chuckled i wont lie
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>>765664
this is how you correctly price something

this is of actual quality and can go for a decent price unlike some chucklefucks who think banging a pencil against a rock should net them $40+ per commission

dumb fucks can't even tie their shoes without stumbling over and wondering why they can't see their nuts

because they don't have any, now quit being a bunch of prisses and make some fucking stacks by improving your art you worthless sludgesuckers
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>>758175
In that case, have a WIP with a similar theme!
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>>766778
You do understand that he's charging as much as >>761533 charges right? And that between a naked woman with ropes and such vs a chick with a intricate skin suit the latter takes more time?
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>>766778
>>766889
I wonder what excuse and bullshit he'll come up with to justify that
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>>766723
Footjobs, breast expansion, butt expansion, anal, paizuri. Who knows yet, I love Peach.
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>>766889
Not the dude you quoted, but both of them are still pretty good artists, regardless of their prices.

I think the original argument was more towards >>764014

which is not worth $80, imo.
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>>766924
>footjobs
>paizuri
>Peach

That's my specialty, what's your e-mail to contact you?
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>>767005
Why not tell me which artist you are and I can contact you if I'm interested?
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>>767010

I could send you samples of my work via e-mail, not sure this kind of work should be discussed here in public.
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>>767015
>not shilling yourself in the shill thread

But why?
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>>767015
>not sure this kind of work should be discussed here in public

do you know where you are and what thread you're in?
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>>767017
>>767019

I'm hesitant about revealing my identity as I do SFW stuff but I like to do hentai commissions in secret.
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>>767022
You sound like an idiot I'd rather never work with.
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>>767022
Then just do what most artists do and make a separate account and email for nsfw. You don't have to 'reveal' anything.
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>>767025
>>767026

I only have a furfag affinity page, maybe I'll shill it one day.
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>>767022
How are you supposed to get commissions that way? You're asking the client to put up THEIR email?

You should do a 5 minute doodle of Peach, include your prices and email here.
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>>767027
Listen dude, if you wanna do commissions discreetly just make a tumblr with a username thats different from what you usually use. and create a new email for it.That's it.

You won't draw much attention and you can post work there and link it in situations like this.
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>>765055

What do you like, cartoony, animu or both? I can recommend artists who draw her well.
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>>767041
I think I prefer cartoony, more like her actual art. Suggestions for both would be cool, though.
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>>766472
>enough is enough
>WE OF THIS THREAD will NEVER stand for this!

Do you think that by acting like some little gallant faggot the artists are going to give you free lewds?
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>>766924

Tell me more about your lewd Peach footjob idea, anon.
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>hit bump limit because some faggot wants to tell people they don't deserve money because reasons
Poor people are a blight
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>>766738
Thank you!
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>>765055

I can do it, post more details and I'll make a sketch.
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>>767179
They do deserve money for their work, just not as much as people offering the same thing but better. There's a reason those types of people get so few commissions.
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>>767179
I don't understand why someone giving an opinion on their art's value is triggering people so hard. Artists can charge whatever they want, but its valuable to understand how much people are willing to pay. I bet there are artists in this thread that aren't getting much work, and that it is largely the result of charging more than most would pay for their art.
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>>767205
>>766924
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>>767269

I mean something more detailed like pose, outfit etc.
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>>767253
>>767266
I think it comes down to the fact that artists want to be paid fairly for their time. Unfortunately, some people aren't worth paying for their time (yet).

The best artists are the ones that charge a price that reflects they're just earning beer money during their time off.
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>>767279
The best artists are ones that have a fair understanding of the value of their art. If an artist wants to get more value, they can always increase the amount of stuff they draw, do commission streams, or other shit that adds value besides just the quality of their art.

Or git gud.
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>>767279
>The best artists are the ones that charge a price that reflects they're just earning beer money during their time off
Which ones, anon? Are they really that cheap?
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>>767205
Which artist are you?
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>>767283
>Post not found.

>>767269

I'm curious about the Peach footjob pose at least, do you have anything in mind?
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>>766785
I am all for this
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>niggas get triggered by prices
>they're in the right to attack people
No
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>>767289
I was trying to link to this post from the request thread. Let me try again:
>>>/d/6967109
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>>767295

Yes, I could do that. Just a couple more questions, what should be her expression? And wearing her dress or nude?
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>>767307
Lewd/sexy expression, crown and earrings (maybe gloves if they're visible), other clothes optional but it'd be nice if her breasts were exposed.
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>>767312

Can do multiple versions, no problem. Also clean and cumshot versions if you'd like.
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>>767321
Are you lining up a client for a commission or drawing something for the drawthread? It's not very clear...

Who are you?
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>>767279
>>767293
Theres a guy named aka6 most of you probably know about. That dude drew his ass off practicing finishing pictures fast as hell. Speed painting constantly. I followed his art for a long time. Hes a point now where, even his non-finished products, are enjoyable. He comfortably makes $15/ an hour + more through patreon.

Most artists here simply do not have that kind of speed and lack skill. So they charge an amount that they feel is worth it based on the time it takes them, and not their skill level.(Some of you, not all. Most of you here actually have ok prices, it's just a select few that are laughable).

You can charge whatever you want, but if artist #2 over there does exactly what you do, but cheaper and better, you can believe people are going to fling shit at your shilling.
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>>767332

Making a sketch to see if that anon likes how I draw Peach and go from there.
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>>767334
This post is right.
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>>767321
Clean and cumshot sounds amazing!
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>>767340
>>767312


With all those versions, I was thinking on making this a POV set of sorts:

-Peach fully clothed showing her soles
-Peach teasing by resting her feet on the guy's still clothed bulge
-Peach stroking the member with her feet, up and down motion.
-Peach exposing her breasts
-More Peach footjob stroking
-Cumshot
-Peach with cum dripping on her feet

What do you think? Good suggestion or way too much?
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>>767369
Are you doing this for free to try and get a commission from the anon or are you drawing all this and hoping they pay for it after? Sounds like quite an imageset.
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>>767370

I'm doing the sample sketch for free, the imageset if he decides to get the whole thing.
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>>767369
>>767389
That sounds cool. I'd like to see your sketch.
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>>767334
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH PRICEFAG!
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>>767334
>how one artist does things is how all artists should do things
Go fuck off
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>>767334
>there needs to be a standard pricing
>anyone I seen unworthy of higher pay needs to be berated and ridiculed
This nigger
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>>767530
>>767538
That's right let's tell this pricef*g what we think of him here!!!
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>>767334
What's your obsession with trying to control other people? Why do you have to attack others? The artists didn't do anything to you. Calm yourself. Your pricefagging is ruining this thread.
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>>767568
Pricefagging only ruins this thread when people go nuts responding to it. Just let them say their piece and ignore them.
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>>767572
He actually made a good point about my prices, not insulting or anything, he was just honest so I can't complain about that.
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>>767572
I think it's fine to attack the guy. He attacks folks he should be attacked back.
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>>767579
They need to grow thicker skin, unfortunately.
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>>767179
fuck now we're never going to be able to have another thread, what the fuck pricefag why did you ruin the LAST commission thread we will ever have?
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>>767530
That's not at all what I'm implying. It's not a 'this artist' thing. If you draw better and faster you spend less time drawing quality work. How is that difficult to understand?

>>767522
>>767542
I'm not whoever you think I am. Literally just stating my opinion. I see that 'pricefagging' is a meme here, but theres absolutely nothing wrong with comparing prices and quality.
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>>767586
Keep your pricefagging private. Unless they want help pricing stuff keep your trap shut.
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>>767581
Not like they're getting into actual fist fights. Dude should learn to leave people alone
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>>767600
Not him but, even if some people don't ask for help, they clearly need it.
For example, charging $100 for this is way too much, the artist needs that kind of advice but he won't ask for it.
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>>767607
But for that artist, it may have been $100 of effort but this is what I think the argument boils down to.

$100 of value differs from one artist to another.
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>>767600
Dude fuck off please. Like, I don't know if you think youre gonna get a free commission by dicksucking this much, but seriously just stop. I didn't insult anyone personally, nor did I say to stop drawing or demand they change prices. I just gave my opinion. Whether or not you think my opinion is needed is irrelevant.
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Is the foot picture still happening? Don't have much interest in the pricefagging arguments.
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>>767607
Yes and? The artist and the guy commissioning the picture were in agreement of what it was worth. Moan and whine all you want but people's tastes differ and what's worth 100 dollars to you might not be worth 100 dollars to someone else.
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>>767614
It's irrelevant . Do fuck off
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>>767581
Same goes for the pricefag considering how triggered he gets concerning other people.
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>>767610
Some artists charge for different reasons, some are medical, some are because the pay in their working area is shit, some have big egos, some feel it's worth it, etc.
Also, if the client thinks the price is fair, that should be enough, they have the money to spare and, if they don't, they can go to cheaper artists.
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>>767610
Less about 'value' more about efficiency. I guarantee you that artist spent a lot of time on that picture, and ultimately that's what the commissioner is paying for. Not the quality of the art, but the time it takes.
If we assume this is based on minwage(a popular argument people like to used in pricing), that artist spent 14+ hours on that picture. I hope that's not true, but lets say it is. That means at some point he thought "Well I draw slowly, so unless I charge based on how long this takes me, I can't profit". If that artist was more efficient, that price would be a lot lower(or the art would be better), and that's what it boils down to.
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Man, you guys are weird. I charge low prices, but that's because I draw quickly (i.e. it only takes me about 5 minutes to do an uncomplicated base sketch, 15 to get the lineart down, another 20ish for coloring), Most artists, however, stand a decent chance of being slow as fuck at what they do. Asking for more is only reasonable.
(Granted, though, I do believe that the one whose prices began this shitstorm started by describing the costs from a minimum and outright said a quote would be necessary, he'd have an easier time with things.) Either way, have some porn and simmer down.
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>>767663
>draw like trash
>charge appropriately

See, this guy understands where he is and what his shit is worth.
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>>767647
Efficiency is a plus. It's actually something that should be more costly. An artist that can give you a picture in a day or an artist that can take a month and both deliver the same quality, who deserves more? Maybe this guy belted that picture out in a few hours. In all acuality, there are 2 kinds of fast artists. The artist that knows nothing can draw what they want without all the rules of perspective, anatomy, and value weighing them down. The artist that draws the same thing is free to use a mental template for nearly everything.
Similarly, any other service where the work is done faster is an extra bit of money. Want a house built faster? Pay the guys more. Want your Dragon dildo tomorrow? Pay more for overnight shipping. Doing a good job fast is extra.
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>>767647
In his case, it really seems to be a case of wage. He mentioned the situation in Brazil is not so good so he has to charge more for the time he spends working and also to compensate for the salary they get in his area. No idea if it's true but that's his explanation.
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>>767667
pricefag why are you even in these threads
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>>767675
Because he's trolling people who are falling for it and his trolling might financially affect someone.

>>767671
Nice image.
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>>767675
You tell him! We love the artists in these threads and we will never back down in the face of these ruthless aggressors!
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>>767663
I can't help it if people are illiterate social rejects that refuse to read or ask me how low I go. I mainly reference how long it takes me to draw shit like this. Which isn't quick or easy. If I was super serious about that picture it could probably take a couple days, and even as a doodle it took a few hours with all that shit all over it.
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>>764014
How does it feel knowing your art was so shit it literally destroyed not only a single thread but all subsequent iterations of said thread for weeks to come? I'm sure the attention is at least pleasant for you.
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>>767693
He's $80 richer than most of us in here.

Also, anyone wanna help with color choice?
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>>767663
I mean you're pretty much agreeing with me, so I got nothin to add.

>>767670
>Efficiency is a plus. It's actually something that should be more costly.

Yeah you're definitely delusional. If you naturally work faster because you have the skill to do so, then you just do. You're thinking of it as the faster artist is putting in tons of more effort, when in reality they're just better than the slower artist.

>An artist that can give you a picture in a day or an artist that can take a month and both deliver the same quality, who deserves more?

and this case the artist that took longer feels that they deserve more because they took longer. Do you not see the problem? That's not the commissioners fault.

>The artist that knows nothing can draw what they want without all the rules of perspective, anatomy, and value weighing them down.
>The artist that draws the same thing is free to use a mental template for nearly everything

Just like this >>767607 picture here, right?

Stop it, man. You're just making excuses now.

People pay more for a faster service that demands MORE WORK. It's completely different. You want a house built faster you pay more for more workers. If the workers are working slow by default, then they're not good fucking workers. The fuck?
Shipping also works completely different. If you told the artist "hey I'll pay you 20 bucks extra if you work faster", then I could understand, but that's not how it works.
Shit analogies.
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>>767699
This is it pricefag... this is too far this time.......
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>>767699
>nigga that can't draw tells other people about the quality of their work
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>>767693
I got 3 more commissions while you idiots have been shitting back and forth, so pretty good
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>>767704
>nigga with logic so flawed it confirms him as being too young to browse this site tells other people about the quality of their arguments
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>>767697
Make sure the pubes match the hair on top.
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>>767711
I will if I go with blue. Though it's dyed hair (not anime logic hair), and I dunno who'd dye their pubes.
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>>767697
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>>767706
No just no. That's not fair! You're the victim here! You're supposed to be wallowing in misery because of these foul pricefags! Your brow has been beaten by a coordinated strike of priccefagging orchestrated by clandestine primary and secondary forces!

heh this isn't over yet though.....
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>>767699
Actually, in a competitive market it's fine to both charge more or less for more speed. It's all a matter of who they are and what they're doing. It can make sense to offer a chance to bump people up in the queue or promise that you'll work solely on the person's piece within a time frame. It can also make sense if you are competing with others in a massive market like certain fetish communities. To simply dismiss the idea of charging more for speed does not take into account the variables that are present to everyone.
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>>767706
Of course you're getting commissions, you did a decent overwatch picture and people are interested expecting similar quality.
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>>767721
This is the best thread.
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Welcome to 4chan, the edgiest place on the internet where we spend all day bitching about hugboxes and safe spaces. But don't you dare criticize anyone drawing cartoon porn! That's going too far.
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>>767723
And that's fine, when you pay for it directly. Maybe i worded that last part wrong.
If an artist is just faster than another artist who delivers similar quality and a similar price, he's just better. You shouldnt have to pay for the speed in that case.

But, if you do pay extra to bump yourself up a slot to get the art faster, then that's 100% understandable.
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>>767733
It all started with people getting offended by prices of all things. Like the shit grabbed his ass and called him babydoll.
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>>767721
crying right to the bank
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>>767719
Yeeah, think I'll stick with blonde and avoid the SJW-ish look.
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ITT: poorfags
this sort of piss poor behavior is why you don't have money. go spend your welfare checks on something more useful if you're just going to bitch about how expensive these (mostly) cheap as fuck artists are
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>>767740
That being said, do not interpret that as a veritable reason to attack an artist because they price things outside your personal perception of reasonable prices.
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>>767749
>all that projecting

wew
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>>767749
>getting the best value for my buck is being poor

Let me know how things go when daddy's money runs out.
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>>767749
t. Fool and his money
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>>767761
>I'm gonna attack people until they lower their prices instead of asking like a normal person
You are an autistic fuck
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>>767751
As I said before I don't care what an artist choses to price their art as. It's just not surprising that when there are better and cheaper artists around people might give them shit.
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>>767772
Where did I attack anyone? Please show me where I attacked someone. I'm not 'pricefag', which appears to be 3 or 4 different people at this point.
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>>767772
>telling an artist their work isn't worth x is an ATTACK
>if you make statements regarding the value of an artist and their work you are POOR, on WELFARE and unable to live a successful life

3/10, your shitposting style isn't substantial enough to stand on its own and you're not exactly bringing anything exciting to the table. At this point you seem like a disgruntled poster who has lost his composure. You might want to hit the showers, freshen up and bring a better game next time.
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These threads sure were fun while they lasted, maybe we should wait a while before the next one.
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>>767749
Even if they're cheap, some aren't worth hiring. They're lacking the basic fundamentals for making good art. They don't know how to draw a standard human form and therefore can't draw appealing porn.
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>>767796
Stop with the memes ¬_¬
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>>767793
That's not me. Either way, though, asking an artist to lower their prices as a special favor just for you is pants-on-head retarded unless the character in question has the simplest fucking design known to man.
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>>767803
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>>767800
People just need to learn not to respond to certain posts and artists need to post more art.
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>>767704
Not that guy or a pricefag but,
>Needing to be a chef to know if food is undercooked or straight up raw
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Have you pricefags ever commissioned anything at all, even outside of this thread?

Could you post some examples of art you think is worth the money? If not, I'm going to assume you're just trolls.

>>767813
But they should be able to point to a decent example.
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>>767800
Every thread has some shitposting, there's no need to stop them just to please those assholes because that would only mean they "won".
And they'll keep going like nothing happened while we lose our threads.

So, just don't take their bait and we'll be fine.
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>>767813
>food tastes a little funny
>could be arsenic or ass
Point is, people that don't know anything about a subject can be disregarded because all they can say is "it's bad and I don't like it" which is worthless.
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>>767827
I like it. Who are you?
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>>767800

as a veteran of the /ic/ porn threads, this strategy 100% does not work
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>>767833
The artist is 14-bis, he does commissions too.
http://14-bis.deviantart.com/
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>>767706
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>>767840
>no erotic
>no porn
Isn't exposed tits erotic?
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>>767831
I just think it's a dumb argument when people say that you have to be an expert on X to have an opinion about X. It's like if someone said that a Toyota Prius is faster than a Lamborghini Aventador, and then disregarded any naysayers because they aren't car experts or manufacturers.
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>>767848
He could be drawing it for himself, but not for commissions.
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>>767848
He used to draw tons of porn back then, loli, milfs (especially milfs), teens, you name it.
Now I think he only does nude pin-ups but not explicit sex.

The pics I've been posting are from some porn drawing packs he sold years ago, collaborating with artists like Fluffy, Linno and King-Cheetah.
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Anyone ever have any problems with language barriers when commissioning foreign artists?
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>>767862
Wow, that sucks because I'm all about those cartoon milfs.
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>>767849
The problem with people that don't know what they're talking about is the fact that all they can state is the obvious. If a cook made something that was undercooked or overcooked. That's obvious. If they made something that's normally delicious gross there may be something wrong with the way they cooked it that time that someone that is not a cook cannot discern. People stating the obvious are to be disregarded. The sky is blue, you are not a meteorologist. I can breath air, you cannot work atmospherics on a space station.
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>>767819
Could fill up an entire thread with just stuff I've commissioned, but I'd honestly rather not. Prefer to stay anon for the most part.

I'll just post one of my favorite ones, posted this awhile ago.

This was around 40usd, artist was c0rrosion, doesn't do commissions anymore I think

This is a more extreme example, so I'll post something more basic in terms of what I'd regularly pay for in a sec.
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>>767885
>futafag
Why do you faggots have so much disposable income? You're all furry tier in terms of sheer numbers, autism, and money wasting.
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>>767885
>$40 for all that
I wouldn't be surprised if he did quit commission work. Probably couldn't convince anyone to pay him more if he was going that cheap. That's the problem with the market. If people don't like the prices they will get personally offended. God forbid you raise them after being a cheap artist for any length of time.
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>>767807
That's what I will do then. This one is a sketch I never finished. I still like it a bit, but not enough to color it.
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>>767902
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>>767885
God damn that is some value for money. Beautiful art too.

>>767889
If I search for rule34 for a character, generally there's lots. If I want futa of a character, it tends to be significantly rarer.
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>>767899
I can agree with this, people adviced me to raise my prices a bit some years ago, I did and nobody contacted me about commissions anymore.
I changed them back and they returned.
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This was 40usd I think, there are other versions. Don't ask about the theme, I wanted a futa cumming while working out and this is what my brain came up with.

>>767889
and what special snowflake fetish do you have?

>>767899
I mean, that was one of his lesser options. It was considered sketch quality. His full quality stuff was like 100+ irrc. He quit for other personal reasons. He still does commissions occasionally, I just don't know how long his queue is or anything. He's just a really good artist, fast too.
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>>767919
Post more of your commissions please. I like the themes a lot.
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>>767919
I don't have any fetishes. Not everyone needs a fetish. I just like women.
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>>767885
It's funny you post that as an example of good value, since it's physically impossible for something like that to be drawn in less than 4 hours, probably more like 8 or more.
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>>767819
I've gotten a few cheap pieces from BlushMallet, but I think her art is worth at least $20 more.
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>>767949
Yeah... I wouldn't say 8 if the artist was particularly fast, but it's definitely not even minimum wage if that artist wasn't from like, Peru or some shit. That dude had NO idea what his work was worth; this absolutely deserved 80-100 bucks, perhaps more.
Poor guy.
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>>767919
Forgot to add that around this price range is what I usually pay. 30usd or so for a single character, more or less depending on if there are multiple versions. For scenes involving more characters it's usually around 40-60usd.

>>767924
I'll post some more in the next thread.

>>767949
I said right there its an extreme example. I would never hold an artist to those standards. I regularly pay more.

>>767931
That's cool dude, I'm happy for you.
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Is the anon who wanted a Peach footjob still around?
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I do hope there will be another thread, despite the arguing. 'Bootin with finished chub chick.
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if your art is filth and awful, full of chicken scratches and questionable anatomy, with horrid colors or none at all, you'd be pressing your dumb cunt luck with $20+

place yourself in the garbage and get better until you have the fundamentals to make more than that you shitheap horsegoblins

good artists know they're good and charge accordingly, otherwise fuck you
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>>767800
It's just one guy pretending to be both sides of the 'argument'. Ignore it and continue until he gets bored of the charade.
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>>768246
>It's just one guy!
>he'll just go away if we close our eyes and start humming!
God this thread fucking sucks.
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>>767885
>$40

>>764014
>$80

xD
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>>768267
Stop it pricefag!
Do you even know
just how hard
you are
TRIGGERINGG SOMEONE WITH YOUR NONSENSE
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>>768271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7t0fk1MHY
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>>768433
Page 10, board is moving fast. All aboard the new thread before this one reaches the final destination
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>>767819
I just counted. I have around 40 comms over the last year. Actually making me realize I need to cute back a bit. Its too addictive.

So yeah, my criticism of some prices is based on haveing gotten a lot of comms from a lot of artists.
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>>768476
>I have around 40 comms over the last year

Wow, anything worth sharing?
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>>768705
Not without giving myself away. I frequent a lot of porn streams, and people in them lurk around here, and know what I comm. And all but 3 of them are loli, so I couldn't share them anyway.
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>>768710

any Nintendo stuff?
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>>768734
No. Closest would be Capcom stuff.
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>>768745


wew, looks like I won't be missing anything interesting to me then.
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