This is a general about slave trainer games and the creation of games where you play as a male and dominate women. Discussion about games not being created here is also acceptable as long as it's related to the topic at hand(ie playing a male and dominating women). This Op is a work in progress.
If you're working on a game and want to list a pastebin here speak up please.
Major Versions of the game (BT is necessary for mods):Silver edition and Russian edition are the most active Each of these is a standalone game, not a mod for any of the others. BASICALLY the links to download the games are in this pastebin. http://pastebin.com/kA21ncJK
Maverick wrote a guide for scripting. Shows how to write/structure scenes for coders. Good for idea-guys & script-writers: http://pastebin.com/gRyrGgDt
Info on character generators: http://pastebin.com/CaevjctD
Links to other games http://pastebin.com/7CHVFKWM
Rogue-like by Oni http://pastebin.com/gLGH6Va0
Korra Trainer/Breaking Bat/Incredibles trainer/Tifa trainer/Momcest trainer/Ben ten trainer(Anon projects not related to Witch Trainer) http://pastebin.com/K5NC3Tk1
Contact info for major contributors: https://quip.com/I2f8AaPEEr0a
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>>262904 God I hope you're trolling. And if you are, use Kamala Khan or Miles Morales next time. They'd be more believable. FemThor is simply irredeemable shit to anyone with even mild respect for characterisation, continuity or storytelling as a whole.
>>263265 The chibis I am doing for Luna use a universal set of body/outfits/movements layers over which any chibi head can be mounted on. So, yes, there will be the Daphne chibi as well, since it needs only the head art.
>>263293 the perspective seems slightly off perhaps? kind of like they need to fit with each other better? Not absolutely sure what it is or how I would fix it but something does seem just a bit off. I don't really like the midline in black that you have between them, it works at the belly button level but less so between the breasts in my opinion. It's at least something to try and see if you like it better without.
>>263366 The first pic I posted has a left more internal indeed. I think I'll try an hybrid among new and old tits.
Also, I'll make more round what I can, in order to make her more cartoonish: cheeks, hips, legs, shoulders. Her skin color was better on my other pc: here it seems too much shiny so I'll desaturate that. I like her facial expression, I know her eyebrows are exaggerated, but the opposite phylosophy is to make her face too much realistic, so I do not agree she is too much Taylor Swift-inspired. Perhaps I could make her a little smarter in order to obtain a slim but not too much thin body shape. Last, consider her enlarged labia and trimmed bush are optional.
> Still mostly putting in some of the stuff that got rolled out before and fixing some of the easier to tackle bugs for now. The build for December will mostly be getting back to where it was before. So you can look back on the older updates to see what's being put in. I might put a few new things but mostly just focused on getting it back to where it was.
> I'm going to try to make a big push on the game for the January build. Hopefully seeing where's it at that stage I should be able to tell closer to when the first version is going to be complete. Because of the plugins I'm using it'll be difficult to say if some of the performance issues will be resolved. They are always being worked on and new versions are being released. So I don't want to spend a lot of time dealing with the outdated libraries when they will be fixed by someone else.
> Everything is still going smoothly despite the way the last build looks on the surface, it fixed the major issues I was concerned with. I haven't seen anyone having those problems anymore. As the game grows in size it kind of becomes a tug of war where you fix something and another thing goes wrong somewhere else. In future with the way things are going so far, I'm looking forward to hiring someone to work on the games full time. Then I can focus more on just making assets and designing everything else.
>>263243 Hands seem kinda of large like man hands, maybe it's just me. Also her pussy is scary. There, I'll say it. It scares me. The face shading doesn't match the rest of the body, I assume that's b/c you wanted to get opinions before shading, and the shadowing under in the armpit is lines which is weird, I assume that's a temp placement too.
>>263927 How come this guy is using Unity? What can he do with it that he can't do with Ren'Py? Is he making an engine that other people can use/he can use for future games? Or is it all vanity, sadism, or stupidity in using something so obviously buggy?
>>263936 On mobile, if someone could link the straw poll directly I'd be very grateful. Well, it sounds like he's on the right track. I kinda think that if it took him this long to figure it out and now he's so insecure in his decision-making he needs a fucking strawpoll, then it still MIGHT be disappointing. Doesn't exactly show a clarity of game designing.
KT update Monday too It's gonna be a good month, friends
Regardless of which comics publisher is better (DC), I'm pretty sure everyone just wants more superhero costumes in general. I'd have to imagine making them would be way easier than other costumes since ~90% of them are just spandex colored differently.
I read the post containing the status update from oni on rogue-like and felt the need to say something about what makes a good trainer.
I think the sweet spots in any game experience of this type is when the woman knows what she is going to do is "wrong" and does it anyway and enjoys it. Its that moment of realization when she is aware that she is acting slutty and getting a thrill from it. That point where she lets someone who isn't her husband inside of her. The moment where she admits for the first time that it feels good despite it being all wrong.
To either side of these points is a bit of work - the climb up is an effort to get her to a state where she's at that point, and the other side is a slope at the bottom of which she is ho-hum comfortable with it.
Its 1) overcome resistance 2) payoff 3) train for obedience.
The "wrongness" of a given action can come from inhibitions(embarrassed to be naked in public), societal norms (don't cheat on your husband) or simple distaste for something (don't want to have sex with the stinky fat guy).
The thrill comes from pushing those boundaries out.
This is a thrill in part because it can go pear shaped unless the player is clever. There should be a way to fail.
The other factor is carrot vs stick.
Witch trainer and rogue-like are carrot games. The target is given a reward for their compliance and that provides the impetus behind the action. Hermione wants points, Rogue wants human contact that won't hospitalize the other person. Both are willing to push their boundaries to get these things.
Blackmail driven games are more "stick" games. The women are forced to do something against their will. Hypnotism based games also fall into this category in the main, but sometimes the hypnotism is used only to facilitate instead of being the driving factor, like alcohol is used to lower inhibitions.
The forehead slopes too quickly above the eyes, and the eyes are slightly too big, as are the underlying bone structures around them. The occipital orbits I think they are called. They are too large. If you look at the actress, her forehead if more upright, her hair not parted in the middle but combed across, and the eyes smaller in proportion to her head.
>>263963 >27 linear vs 13 other shit and no opinion who cares
>>263985 I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd just like to say that without writers, it's really just stuff people can use in a generator to jerk off to. Which I do because I take happy, horny, skinny pills every day and my libido is off the fucking charts
I have porn and hentai on my phone ffs
>>264053 My slave lost everything she could. 0-50 stages of grief 50-100 mind break PC goes through the stages of brainwashing a person in addition. Very scientific.
>>264148 >but I'd just like to say that without writers, it's really just stuff people can use in a generator to jerk off to. It'd be crazy easy to just write it into Silver as something the Genie asks Hermione to wear.
>>264167 People have been saying that for almost a year now, but nobody fucking does it. We have more fucking artists than writers, and believe you me, even I thought it'd be fucking easy to find writer IF we ever found an artist, let alone more than one.
JJ's done chit-chat which would be okay if it was part of a larger writing scene, but it's fucking not. UE fucked off after doing an indeterminate amount of private writing for 4 Houses. He was the most dedicated WT writer we had. Maverick is BEEP BEEP, if he ever did any writing at all, I dunno. Mo apparently refuses to write, I don't blame him since he codes a shitload of stuff. There are two custom favors in Silver, one of which results in an error the last time I played it, the other of which was so underwhelming I'd rather just read Akabur's writing in the time I have to fap. TrainerFan said he was doing some writing because be was "inspired" by Captain Nemo, but did an unedited scene, 20 lines of a preggo scare scene, said he was making writing rules based on Akabur writing and didn't do shit, and that's fucking it. By the way, that's me, and I got bigger fish to fry. Mo has listed his contributon in patch notes, that's it.
If I sound bitter, it's because I am, but this shit isn't the whole reason why. Everybody said writing is easy because everybody had a keyboard, and it's been a bit fat fucking nothing ever since except for me and tropic, according to him, and we're both holding onto our writing for the time being.
No clue about Russian Edition. Also, I'm not actually TrainerFan. Maybe.
Writing is hard, don't act like it isn't or do it yourself.
>>263959 Lol, it's not a major design change, just a small tweak in how the "will she or won't she" checks will work. It'd be mostly invisible to the players, I assume, other than that she might refuse things a bit more often.
>>264148 >>264246 those pics are making me miss ZT anon. His project sounded really well thought out and he kept bringing that other anon to dump pictures. Pretty sure he was a writefag.
I agree with you on writing though. I think critiquing it by itself is easy to misjudge as well because you have to view it as it would be as part of the whole project rather than in a vacuum. I remember feeling frustrated for you when you posted some of your stuff here.
And then take the "lazy and skim" part and replace it with "tireless and perfectionist"
Add in a "I watch the source material whenever I have the chance and am not jerking off"
And "agonize over whether people will think it's good or better than nothing" for minutes per line
Multiply that by 4 for shorter dialogue choices and 2 for longer dialogue choices that branch off those 4, while keeping in mind that your streamlining has to make sense
And that's simplifying the situation
Then modify it with expressions and CG changes and think about revising it the whole time while considering that you don't want to repeat yourself anywhere because there are a little over a million words in the English language, also grammar within one of the most convoluted main languages in history because it's ultimately a bastardization of English, German, and Romance languages
BUT I DIGRESS BECAUSE WT MOD WRITING SHOULD BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND ON-PAR WITH A FUCKING RUSSIAN
I love every minute of it, but I just don't understand why others won't put something out there, /stg/ might help just like they help ArtGuy and Nemo, maybe moreso
>>264345 Legit you're right I forgot the hardest part
I have NOT jerk off at any point during the day to do the writing because if I do, then thats it, its ogre. Gotta wait for the next 3 hours before I have enough energy to even look at the words again
Also I had that problem at first with the "will people like it or not" then I just said fuck it, Just write it without thinking about it and go over it when you're actually going to implementate it
And yea I agree with the cg and expression thing because you want to write out this huge amazing scene but then you realize you have about 3 expressions and 2 poses to work with so you cut out like 90% of what you have in your head
>>264370 Thank you for publicly reinforcing the point that doing the shit right is harder than one might think Kudos to you for doing the code and writing? though Akabur acts like it's a big deal but I feel like his art hasn't improved much even though he's reportedly been going to art school (any progress reports? PoV videos of classes? At least one? Reports on what he's been taught, even general ones? Fucking 9k+ a month, I'd be talking about how good my imaginary girlfriend's pussy feels) I wonder how he'll react if and when he realizes competition is eating his donation pool. Then again, we don't have art galleries to offer patrons.. I got 20+ expressions to work with tho, even if it's by a different artist Eh...might change if the Patreon goes high enough, I've gotten like 12 donations in the last week from $1 to 10 and then 3 separate $40 donations probably from DE fans on top of that One fucking morning I woke up, checked my email, and a $10 donation popped up There are critical points you can reach for sure All of it's going to DE atm, but it's nice to see support
>>264375 You are fucking absolutely goddamn right and I profusely apologize to everyone, especially janitors/mods What was I thinking? Will not confirm or deny this shit under the TrainerFan trip
>>264435 fucking write anything write that /stg/ fantasy you thought about that one time you can be anon, nobody will know inspire others to expand on it or do their own be the change you want to see in the world
>>264430 Im doing all the writing and all of the backgrounds and clothing concepts, but im only mediocre at code and can parrot what my much much smarter code guy can pull out of renpy, too bad he has a life and can only put the groundwork in
Akabur is a mystery to me since living in russia is generally cheap with internet costing about $6 and most people make about $300 a month there, so he must have a shit load of excess income that he wont use to hire someone else to write or code for him full-time Its just weird
I honestly doubt he will ever react since if he really needed the money he would just add some *insert furry* charcter and make 20k in less then a week, because thats the world we live in
Either way someone shouldn't make games if they only do it for the money in my opinion
If I hadn't been on medication that drastically reduced my libido for the last half year, I'd help write shit.
I just can't get the required amount of lust up to write decent porn.
What I can do, and wish I could do for the Russian mod, is revise already written dialogue and expand it or make it more elegant. So if anyone wants to collaborate or some shit, lemme know and I'll gladly help out with writing.
>>264454 Akabur is a fucking Jew through and through. I know exactly what he's thinking because the same shit occurs to me. He's just selfish. There's no mystery about it. Then again, Russia is probably ultimately fucked economically unless Europe starts trading with them again, so I can't really blame another human, especially one who doesn't exactly live in the best part of the former USSR, for looking out for himself and his imaginary girlfriend. Look, he's said on his fm that he learned moon runes to play Jap mind break games, right? I check that shit every werk because it's hilarious, but you pick up some shit. So he took an existing concept he was familiar with and made an English version with decent art.
Thus we got PT, which he put some effort into, and then WT, in which the majority of the art in sex scenes were created by Dahr, who doesn't really give a shit because it was easy to draw and he doesn't have an extensive gallery to show people. Fucking run-on sentences up in this bitch. Now he's revamping the project that made him famous in the first place. Fucking lazy and nonambitious bullshit, but a natural next step. Maybe KT isn't exactly revolutionizing gameplay, but I don't want to repeat PCs/characters for future games except for KT's only sequel.
Anyway, I get Akabur. But he's not about to appease the furry crowd because his base might leave him. I've heard that bit from more than one person that you, and my response is basically, people understand that their base isn't fucking furry. Apples and oranges. I'm tired of talking about this shit because it's tiring. , but as far as KT has gone, finding an artist worthy of our efforts has been a real fucking journey. Good art demands compromises.
It's a hard truth, but I'm glad you found an artist who came to/stg/ of their own accord. .My first artist, Sanora, was like that, and he left. Money can be a much more powerful incentive than passion, and in my experience, artists are the hardest to motivate
>>264516 >learning jap to play rpg maker games lmao just use Chiitrans like what the fuck?
Also do you actually think he gives a fuck, honestly? I've never seen him answer any question without being a shit or even say something that isn't cringe worthy Either way he's going to make that jaxx game after the PT gold mine is spent and make a billion trillion dollars from furry neets who have nothing else to do but support their shit fetish
There's no other way that can go
Also cg is too many projects guy who yea I found on /stg/ but my main artist is someone I found on a small forum, But yea you are right that you have to motivate them and pester everyday to get even the smallest trickle of work.
My biggest obstacle through these 4 months was trying to get everything implemented honestly
Even when you have 200 pages of words and scripts and ideas, without any art to back it up a coder who has no idea what a trainer game is could give less of a shit
I had to physically waste a month to learn how to draw to convince him to even consider doing work
It always amazes me everytime I see Tyroflux and momcest stuff, he has 90 something people on his drive and everybody is always talking and adding stuff and it fucking baffles me
I have to spend like an hour thinking of how im going to get someone to take the time out of their lives to help me with my dumb game but people flock to him like sheep to grass
I understand how hard writing is, my dream as a kid was to write this super cool elemental hero bullshit with every possible shitty element you can think of inluding heart, and it was based on my 4th grade crush, but with tits.
I then sat down to write it in like 6th grade, and I realized, I needed to use actual words to convey it and I could get maybe a page down before my brain was overloaded. Brain to Word Translation devices when?
Want me to write down, Idea pitches? I can do that all fucking day. Want me to actually turn it into something? Dead within an hour.
Shit's hard and I respect anyone that can do it, especially since I consider it the most important part of any game.
>>264516 >Akabur is a fucking Jew through and through. I know exactly what he's thinking because the same shit occurs to me. He's just selfish. There's no mystery about it. 2bh the reason he can now leech hundreds of people it's because he went on for years while earning nothing.
>>264727 I was one of the guys who was always happy to have linear's work and voiced as much. Problem is a lot of negative voices tend to drown out the positive ones (and one shitposter can become a lot of negative voices on this) site. The general kind of has a "culture" of negativity and shitposting and the Op kind of supporting it doesn't help either.
Aco's been a little better for shitposting though. At least in terms of direct attacks on people. It'd be nice if a slightly more welcoming "culture" could be adopted.
I'm playing through Russian mod for the first time and it seems pretty good. Although I've gotten stuck on the phoenix quest after she get's angry at me and calls me a zooiphile, how do you get past that?
I hope theres an update on Tifa Trainer soon, Dude hasnt really said anything since announcing it. Hell I dug out an old prepaid card just for the sake of supporting Tifa porn, cmon man, give me some titillating info!
>>264614 There's a lot of tricks to make writing easier though. Start with a single sentence summarizing the entire thing, then turn that sentence into three sentences describing the basic beginning-middle and end, keep doing that until you've got a decent outline, then start doing the same thing with the outline to start actually producing those scenes.
>>266064 Could be wrong, but the most current version is from Dec 10. The one before that was from Dec 8 or so, and had a bunch of bugs. The one before that was like November 4th. Other people might have better info, I'm working from memory.
>>266036 I think given the way Renpy works, it's easiest to just go through and write the dialog in order, and then go back through and add the mechanics of the conditions to reach those lines, and then throw in things like rewards and animations and whatever other bells and whistles.
New version uploaded. Nothing to write home about, pretty small update content wise.
Main notes: Potions now have to be crafted, breast expansion scene isn't complete but is added, potions combinations are in the pastebin, thanks to an anon for helping me with the store.
I'll try and do some more writing over Christmas but as for a lot of people this is a busy time of year for me with family commitments. Not sure when the next update will be.
As for extending the butt molester scene that a few people have been requesting my plan is to make a few 4th heart variants of scenes that require outfits. E.g. Hermione will dress up as a maid and clean your desk while you grope her butt.
>>267501 Yeah, but over 50% of the aids cases are not gay people, it's just more prevalent in that community because they don't practice safe sex as often. Again, the way to avoid getting aids is to not have unprotected sex with people who have aids, male or female.
>>267505 Bird flu effects less people because there are less birdfuckers than gay people. If more people fucked birds, there would be more people with bird flu.
>Note that Global Rule #3 is in effect! This means NO images with anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or underage ("loli/shota") characters. Images depicting bestiality or scat are not to be uploaded. If you want to post this kind of material, go to /b/.
>>264766 I've gone into hiding for a bit because I'm at home and I'm not exactly free to draw this stuff with my parents around. I've recently watched the new SW movie and Rebels and now I'm super hyped to get some high quality stuff done, but that puts me in a bind because I'm not happy with the style I got going at the moment. I'm still experimenting with styles to see what feels good for me. Like I didn't even know there was an adult form for ahsoka so I gotta go learn to draw that as well.
>>268391 Star Wars first because that's super fresh in my mind, I'm doing style tests on paper until I get back. Hopefully when I get back it's straight ahead to production. The others will all be worked on simultaneously >>268386 Duly noted. I'll try to make it work but I'm not JJ Abrams
>>268398 As someone who isn't a die-hard fan that has no nostalgia for any of the previous movies I loved it. The story isn't deep and it's kind of a repeat, but that's what Star Wars is SUPPOSED to be. Not to mention this is the setup movie for the trilogy. That said, it is a great standalone movie that had me excited the whole way through. Jokes were well timed and felt natural and played great. Visually I was in awe. JJ Abrams is a wizard of composition, the colours, the mise en scene the framing. Everything was just incredible. Each character has their individual arc that was really interesting and I fell in love with Rey. Ughhh she's so perf. So After saying all that. I personally liked the movie, your mileage may vary. I am definitely adding Rey to the trainer.
Some bugs i found. When you order one costume the clothing shop doesnt make another one. Every time you visit it, it ask if you are there to pick up the costume and keeps giving it to you. I couldnt craft the expansion potions keeps saying missing ingredient.Sometimes when you craft potions you get the clothing shop conversation when done.
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