>>168451 These threads always end up hella gay. I must ask this though, what's the appeal of commissioning art? Especially of OC's and established characters. I'm on the other side of the fence and I've been wondering.
I've gotten several lewd commissions from Riley_AV/NSFWEE. She's pretty great to work with, especially since she'll stream stuff so you can offer your input in real time. Highly recommend her. http://nsfwee.tumblr.com
>>170054 It's really satisfying to have something particular in mind, especially for characters you love and then get it exactly as you wanted. Especially if it's with someone that's willing to work with you on details and what matters to you.
>>171312 >I'm not baiting a response, I'm just talking shit! I'm just gonna assume you've got no room to speak. Yeah, you've got the right to your shit opinion, but you're being a pretty huge asshole, dude.
>>171329 Buuut, you're not. Most actual artists wouldn't shit on somebody else's work like that because artists have empathy for eachother. They guy's no Picaso but his art is by no means bad and he can only get better.
>>172500 >pandering You're still being stupid and you're not using that word correctly. Bottom line is you're upset someone is accepting work because you don't like what the commissioner paid them to do.
>>172500 Oh no! Not raising your profile as an artist by drawing a character you know people want to see art of, thereby increasing the chance of people commissioning you and making money doing something you enjoy! Those fucks!
I've had a few commissions. I've got one going right now, actually, but it's a little difficult to find people that will draw my fetish, mostly because futa on male is considered "gay" and a lot of them don't do gay.
They're right, it is kinda gay. But I thought there'd be more of them open to the idea.
>>173012 it varies so tremendously, who can say? i have been trying to slowly increase my prices and so far nobody has minded paying them, though i don't exactly have a constant stream of commissions either. just random ones. i stick around 15 for a reasonably simple drawing of a single character, maybe two if they're naked.. but if the pose gets weird, the clothes get elaborate, or they want full shading on an outfit with lots of colors and details, then I've gotta ask for extra. and backgrounds are another thing entirely but most people don't seem to care about them at all
>>173282 i already did. >>171894 then i felt like an idjit because it seems i misinterpreted the thread and this is about BUYING commissions, not drawing them. and anyway what i posted is not only not a commission (i think. i can't remember) but used a pose reference and thus not the most ideal thing to showcase (though i frequently use them) I just couldn't find any better thing to show off that i can post on /aco/
I'm in a similar position where I've never had someone pay for my art because I've always been to self-conscious about my work to set up commissions but recently I've been thinking about starting. Would you honestly commission me based on this sketch?
You know what /aco/rns, I've occasionally fapped to my own drawings and this thread is making me wonder if maybe others might pay to do the same. How about I drawfag for you folks for a bit and y'all can let me know if it's worth setting up a tumblr or something?
>>173928 Been waiting 8 month's for one of my commissions. Though to be fair I don't know what Bigdad's personal situation is. If he's employed, on training courses, etc... I'd be more inclined to just be patient if they were working a full-time job and stuff to boot.
>>173941 >>173937 Yeah, that's just a little too long in my opinion. That either constitutes a refund or cancellation of some kind, unless they'd prefer to finish it. To be fair, I'm guilty of taking a long time as well. [spoiler]Not within the past year, though. I think I broke out of the habit.[/spoiler] It's easy to get overwhelmed if you're not careful. While I understand, it's still something the clients deserve to have addressed in some way.
I've been meaning to ask about this too. I've been drawing a long time, professionally, but I want to start earning some extra cash with lewd commissions. And I mean, I'm into some fucked up shit, I'll pretty much draw it all. Where do I even start?
I usually tell people either i can finish this within a day or it's going to have to wait a couple days. if i thought it would take longer than that I wouldn't take it in the first place. of course i have no life, so >>174141 yeah seriously. if you figure it out, let us know
I am a commission artist, just recently began I have pretty much no boundaries when it comes to what I do and it makes me super turned on when I get really crazy commissions, like, shit I'd die if it got out there that I drew. It turns me on a lot, too. I'm creating something that someone is gonna blow multiple loads to. I normally have to stop to masturbate myself, then get back to work. It's kind of draining, especially with a day job too. I won't post my website because it's shamefully dry, I normally don't upload, Im going to start uploading though, because this board seems like a great spot for getting more clients. I'll post in draw threads soon as well. Image attached is a crop from something I'm working on right now, Raven getting anally raped, pretty tame compared to what I normally do.
>>174141 Drawthreads. I'd be pimping the hell out of myself in there if I was a good artist and would draw literally anything.
Link me some of your shit or just post your online handle. If you're half as good and willing as you're selling yourself as, I'd like to see what you can do and maybe thinking about being a customer. Can only help.
>>174405 dude don't be a fucking dick, just tell him what you think is wrong with the faces and stop just insulting him without backing. Jesus. Why even partake in this thread if you're just gonna shit on things without reason?
>>174416 to say "That is not the problem" and then not telling him the problem is being the opposite of constructive. It's not helpful and only serves to kill motivation. Just be constructive. I write and if somebody just told me "hey hope you don't write anything else it sucks, not gonna tell you why, not an insult though", I'd feel shitty. That's all.
>>174519 >This food is bad Vs. >This food is too salty
One lets the person fix what they did wrong and one doesn't. It's not about being cocky, it's about you having a problem and not just saying what that problem is so that it can be addressed in some way.
>>175345 look lemme just explain alright this one asshole makes an asshole comment someone else says 'this is how you fix it' now i agree with the asshole but i'd never be such an asshole and say that shit out of nowhere like that. I'd wait til i had something constructive to say. and since i can't exactly put it into words (something about feature shape and proportion) i'm keeping quiet but i still want to chime in and say that, in my opinion, changing the values does not solve the problem, it's a lineart problem. and anyway is it the values that were changed? to me it looked like the areas-of-shading that were changed, and that is a great change. that anon is good at shading.
>>175714 Nigga, proper values take priority over lineart any day. Proper values indicate proper knowledge of form, which is like 80% of actual drawing. Lineart doesn't mean jack shit. A line is just a representation of where the form ends. Actual painters don't think in terms of lines but in terms of form. Values and form are fundamental. Lineart is just icing.
>>170054 You don't want porn drawn that you specifically want? >>173654 $120 for a fully colored image including a colored background and two alternate images. >>173877 Communication. I don't expect constant updates with everything, but if you have concerns or comments with a particular piece, let me know! Usually inputs from both parties will make the final product better in the end.
>>179578 >pricelist am i the only one that just can't make a single price list? i guess it's like superior japanese toys vs american ones that demand to have consistent price points which makes things easier for stores.. resulting in a lot of things being offmodel. if i'm arting for you i need details so i can give you a price quote
Been looking into commissions myself. Problem is, most of the stuff I want to commission is never ever by most artists and the artists that do draw that sort of thing don't take commissions. Its a special kind of hell.
>>183059 He's been doing them for years. His prices are pretty cheap, actually, and the commissions themselves are usually done very quickly. OP image was done in 2 days, the second commission 2 days after that.
>>182758 Art is entirely subjective, especially when it comes to smut. If you're an artist and someone's willing to pay, or if you're a commissioner and someone's willing to do your smutty idea, that's all it really takes.
I've commissioned a wide range of artists and have rarely been disappointed. Fact is, commissioners don't necessarily care about proficiency or any of that. I've paid some top tier artists good money for really beautiful art of characters in simple pinups. But then I've paid less to lesser known artists for rough sketches of characters doing nasty /d/-level stuff too.
So, y'know, judge by demand, be willing to listen to folks, and be clear on what you're willing to do, and generally it's all gravy.
>>184096 I can tell you that he's worth every penny. He's very communicative, tells you exactly when he's going to work on it and gives you proper updates and is open for suggestions.
I commissioned one Raghnarok x Roxanne piece from him and had a lot of back and forth regarding an arm placement, and he convinced me his way was better.
Too bad with everyone coming down hard on loli artists (not as much on shota what I've noticed, but maybe there just wasn't as many) because as much as I love his approved art work I can definitely see he has an affinity for lolis, and it's a pity he doesn't do as much of it on his own time like before.
And here's a commission of Pearl from Misplaced Lines.
>>184105 Yeah. Just unfortunately its hard to justify half a weeks pay on a single piece of smut. Maybe my tax return can go to a few things I would like done. I've liked Norasuko since he first started out. And hes pretty good in general, doubly so when considering artists that are actually willing to take loli commissions. Barring GFD, Polyle or Fuchur deciding to start taking commissions, hes probably one of the best options.
I wish I had been interested in loli commissions 5 years ago. Those were the good times.
But yeah dude, don't buy any smut if you can't afford it! I mean, if I had a better job I'd pay for so many commissions, but for now I just keep track on favorite artists when they do commissions as well as check my tumblr dash for people reblogging artists who are desperate for commissions.
One more Inkstash (wish I could share my more favorite ones :/)
>>184096 main reason i dont wanna do hardcore loli is it always involves geometric impossibilities. there's nothing worse than a commissioner who wants a penetration shot with a ton of other stuff visible that would be necessarily covered by penetration, or a loli being penetrated by something thicker than her pelvis. it's not happening.
I mean, I get if they want a Sparrow tier bulge 3 times the size of the girl in question, or something ridiculous like that, but a normal sized penis in a 10 year old girl isn't a geometric impossibility at all.
Hell, the size contrast is half the appeal. Why I like shortstacks too.
>>184261 man i guess. i get the feeling i like loli for totally different reasons than most people commissioning me. it's the same with feet, i don't want them huge or dirty or deformed looking or close up or toeringed or any of that other weird shit. just tiny and dainty and bare and clean and just at the end of a pair of legs.
>>184284 Not hard to believe. I mean, I like loli for the size contrast and small chests mostly.
Other people like them for other reasons.
Having preferences is your right as a drawfag.
I just lament I missed the time when good loli artists of every kind were available for commissions. Like I missed a golden age and now I get pinups or nothing at all, which hurts bad when I have these ideas I can't get out of my head that leave me forever thirsty.
I mean, its one thing to just like a particular character and be fine with basically anything as long as they are involved.
Its a completely different thing when you have a very specific idea you want done with no outlet besides spending several years getting good enough to draw it yourself.
>>184296 well fuck dude i'll draw you whatever you want if the money's good. and i'm told i charge less than most. but i'm also not that good really and i need a lot of help with poses.. i'm just good at faking it.
>>184338 yeahh I used to do more like that, inspired by 90s marvel and dc, but I got sick of it after a while.. and I realized shit looked better without a ton of detail and muscle lines, so I simplified and never looked back. I probably wouldn't know where to start if I picked that rawer stuff back up.
>>183494 I've been thinking of what to commission him, and while I feel like /co/ stuff is definitely the way to go over some OC, I'm not very attached to any of the series he usually draws, nor can I think of an appropriate one in the first place. It's a little tough.
>>184560 I've commissioned him to draw characters he has not even heard of, and he drew them very well. He has also drawn anime characters before. I think one of Gara's strength's is his ability to make the characters resemble the source material very closely if he so chose to.
One of my goals is to get art and porn of obscure characters who do not have much art or porn, if any at all.
The next characters I will be commissioning are Hikari Yagami and Ladydevimon from Digimon, alongside a comic I've been planning for a while.
>>184983 Yeah, he's pretty good. Won't do loli/shota but he seems pretty open to most things. As you would be able to tell on his misplacedlines tumblr com he really likes Pearl from Steven Universe, so a commission of her would probably go over well, but I don't think he has too many qualms about what people commission him for either way.
>>186181 I don't have an exact dollar value I'd stop at, but I probably wouldn't pay more than 80 for 1 character (full color and background) or 120 for 2. Maybe more if they're truly exceptional or put in a very intricate background. I've commissioned 3 artists in the past for 2-character pictures and they all landed around 80, 90 bucks.
>>187485 I made a list a while back and updated it just now based on this thread. You can find it on rserenitydotblogspotdotcom then click on the List of Artists link from March in the archives (I can't figure out how to direct link without triggering 4chan's spam filter).
Here are two of the images I got commissioned: http://i.imgur.com/cf3W5mT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JoFNWe0.png
>>182753 If DarkPiccolo is sitting on bank and wants to throw money at you for drawing anime-jesus fucking characters in non-canon crossover scenarios then I'd be mad if an artist didn't take the money. Only positive I can think to offer is at least DP offers a little variety with his commissions.
The Wingbat faggot only asks for his OC and X-23 over and over again.
>>186181 Depends on several factors of course, but in a general sense, I tend to pump the brakes at around the $70 mark. I've gotten some coms that are more than that, but I start getting a little more picky and detailed if I'm going that high.
>>186181 It depends really. Usually when I commission things I ask for a set 2-4 images of a certain character. On average a set of 3 images with 2 people simply colored is $90 from most people, sometimes a little more with edits like nude and cum edits. If I get a commission slot from a well known artist I'd be willing to pay $150 for a fully colored image with a single character from them. This usually has edits, alternate versions, and the source file too if the artist still has it. Question to those who've payed for art. Does the artist include the source file along with your images too? Or do you have to ask that beforehand?
>>188157 i'm always happy to provide the source image, i just prefer to hear from them what they want.. sometimes they want a big file, sometimes a small one.. sometimes they would rather have the .psd so they can edit their autistic word balloons in.. whatever, they bought it
>>189494 eh well i've already posted in here, so if you were interested you'd have said a thing sad thing is i look back at the few fully painted things i've done, and... they look so bad now. I had bad cataracts for a while so I couldn't see values very well. Still, this guy paid well for it. I think I'm better at painting now that my eyes are fixed.
>>190008 contact is definitely the most important thing.. going even a week with absolutely no contact would be nervewracking for me, unless that was just common for them and they had lists and such.. but going a month with frequent contact i wouldn't mind at all of course i've only ever commissioned people a few times, and it's mostly just kind of a combination of a gift and prodding them to draw something i want them to draw
How many of you who have paid for commissions prefer cartoony art to realistic art? Like, anywhere from Adventure Time to Disney levels of cartooniness and exaggeration. I draw cartoons, myself, and if I can work it into my schedule, I'd love to try my hand at lewd commissions. I find stylized toons are quicker and more fun to draw; like I don't go for heavy detail in faces, but I'm told what I do show is very expressive, and I love to find new ways to fit silly or intense expressions onto simple faces.
>>190673 Only real requirement for porn I commission is fappability. That has more to do with facial expressions, content, body language and details like sweat and fluids as it does the actual STYLE involved.
As long as you can something boner inducing, its fine.
>>190698 It's a work in progress, he gave me an update since it was taking so long for him to get around to my comms. He's gets a huge TO DO LIST when comms open. There is going to be a side shot added but that's about it. Other than that I'm waiting on a 19 year old Kuki Sanban Character Sheet.(Numbuh 3 from Kids Next Door)
Just poking fun in a lighthearted way, I know this is a standard pinup tradition.
>>186181 up to $100 for my own gratification, $200-500 for a book cover.
I'd start with a smaller piece to establish communication/a relationship with the artist and make sure we're communicating on the same wavelength (I'm a software engineer for hire and have had some clients where we just don't communicate well, and while I got their shit done eventually, I'd prefer to avoid those types of business relationships with minimum losses).
Think that's fair? Open to feedback from artists; haven't commissioned anything yet but may finish a novel soon and am looking for some anchor points.
I guess OC counts here? I dunno. I've commissioned a ton of stuff, mostly fan art, a few OC stuff here and there. I don't really have a favorite, but there are a few artist I would love to be able to commission(Incase, Yuni, etc), but they're either not taking commissions or only offering a 'chance' for one through patron or whatever.
Here's an OC of mines drawn by Evisset
>>170054 The appeal is being able to get something you want, that's really it. I had the "lol why would i buy porn its free!!" mindset when I was younger, but as I got older my kinks became more and more specific and there was just less of what I wanted to see. I stopped thinking about it like "it would be so awesome if someone drew x doing y" and realized if I really wanted to see something drawn, I should look to commission it, not sit around waiting.
That's relative to what your kinks are of course though. If your interest are just the norm then theres not much of a point. There will always be porn of popular characters in popular/vanilla scenarios.
In my experience, it's all about what you find. Some artist who don't usually do commissions will start out cheap, same is true for artist who don't have a large following(start cheap commissions>build fanbase>demand increases>increase commission pricing).
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