Why is she such a shit? She's dragging down the entire manga.

>>162244382
Chapter dump?

Fuck you OP. She is best girl and she looks very cute in that dress.

Hiramoto ran out of ideas by the time the cavalry battle began.

>>162244382
>Why is she such a best? She's carrying the entire Manga.
FTFY

>>162244632

He fucking tried to drag shit so long you can tell.

>>162245486
you only have so much creative energy before you burn out, he's splitting time between this and Devil blues and it really shows.

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>>162244382
Get the fuck outta here.

She's actually had solid development and is the only one to have any kind of bond with Kiyoshi

>>162244382
She appeared on one page at the end of the chapter. How is that dragging down the Manga?

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>>162244382

>>162245524
That's why you plan out a story instead of winging it like an idiot.

>>162245641
You realize that should be told to most mangaka right?

Besides, Calvary arc really wasn't that bad nor long if you read it one go as opposed to waiting a month(s) for the next chapter. It seems now he's close to wrapping it all up nicely.

>>162244382
>Chiyofags still mad she that she has no character and is literally just mcguffin

>>162244382
Eh, she's okay.

Hanafags though, they need to shut up, damn pissfags.

>>162244382
>hana ultra wide.png

>>162244382
Why is OP such a shit? He's dragging down the entire board.

>>162244382
I don't think it's Hana's fault that track namek is like 80 chapters long and that the pacing has been fucked since.

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>>162245774
Make me, my dude

>>162245746
>you only have so much creative energy before you burn out
This insinuates that you believe a mangaka would use up his creative juices which leads to a dragged out and pointless manga while not having anything planned out.

>Calvary arc really wasn't that bad nor long if you read it one go as opposed to waiting a month(s) for the next chapter
Even if I read it again in a marathon, not would happen like it did the first time.

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>tfw you already know, based on how badly shitstorms like these have ended previously in the manga, that nobody is going to show up at Chiyo's birthday party and that when she's wondering what the fuck is going on she'll find the barrel that Andre had delivered on-site with a misleading note that she'll interpret in the most hurtful way possible

>>162246106
You are not talking about piss right now, and that's all I need from you.

>>162246134
That first reply wasn't me. I'm just pointing out how few manga are ever really "planned out".

Or else there wouldn't be such a plethora of shit, rushed, or just no endings out there.

>>162246136
You haven't read the latest chapter I suppose? The barrel was already delivered. Chiyo though Kiyoshi was hiding inside. Became devastated when she found out he wasn't.

>>162246218
The plot or course of the story could be changed because of the editors and what not or extenuated beyond its aforementioned ending, for example DBZ.

But a manga should always have the arcs and ending sorted out in case the series is being screwed over by the editors.

At this point Risa and Andre are the only characters I care about

Spoilers for 267 are out. Hana wants to destroy Chiyo's smile. Worst girl confirmed once again.

>>162244431
>>162244792
>>162245537
>>162245763
>Hana
>best girl
>carrying entire manga
>solid development
>only one to have any kind of bond
>Chiyofags mad
>no character
Hanashits pls

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>>162247093
You're just as retarded as Chiyo herself.

>>162247437
But you like the most emotionally retarded girl in the series?

Is 264 even translated? Can't find it senpaitachi

>>162247093
>>Hana
>>best girl
>>carrying entire manga
>>solid development
>>only one to have any kind of bond
>>Chiyofags mad
>>no character
Is any of this untrue though?

>>162247718
Everything about it is untrue and pure waifufag delusion

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>>162247702
MT's just slow as all fuck, anon. You can get english transcripts elsewhere.

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>tfw all this waifuwarring and I still just want to hatefuck Kate

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>>162246818
If you were attracted to another person, but they held a mutual attraction to someone else (who you feel forced to help at times) but it's not going anywhere because both of them refuse to do anything about it, wouldn't you feel like crushing those feelings?

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>>162247788
Kate's the lewdest little thing, desu
>Rubbing herself the entire time

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>>162247788
>hatefuck
>not gay conversion therapy by showing her true love between a man and a woman with your dick

>>162247797
>it's not going anywhere because both of them refuse to do anything
Nice try, Hanashit. Hana knows Kiyoshi plans to confess to Chiyo, she even tried to warn her about it. Take your delusions elsewhere.

>>162247968
Kiyoshi's been planning on confessing to Chiyo since he met her. Not doing it after being released from prison is only his own fault.

>>162247912
>Implying there's any coming back from sucking on Mari's Maris
You'd need a magnum cock with premium technique to beat those bunker busters.

Hana is the Ishigami of this manga. She carries it by herself.

>>162248017
>Implying Kate has any interest in sucking any more tits
Face it, /u/. She's straight.

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>>162248150
I dunno, anon. Mari has this power, see.

>>162248150
Kate x Joe?

>>162248234
Kate x My dick

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>>162247680
If Hana's the benchmark, then only Rise and Anzu are smarter as Rise finally won and Anzu knows what she wants and pursues it.

Hana and Kiyoshi have had far more onscreen development than him and Chiyo ever will. Also, Hana and Kiyoshi's relationship was built on truth through piss, while Chiyo and his is built on lies (him never admitting he did peep and that he actually hates sumo wrestling) - Hana knows Kiyoshi is a perv and accepts him, Chiyo still thinks he's some knight in shining armor and likes her idealized form of him.

>>162248311
Literally everything you said was wrong. You don't see delusion this big much.

>>162248311
Piss is thicker than water

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>>162248311
Chiyo will never ever get this close

>>162248134
Literally false, unless you're a blind Hanafag. There's infinitely more to offer in this manga than shitty Hana's generic tsundere antics and piss fetishes.

Chiyo is Onodera and Hana is Chitoge. We all know how this ends.

>>162247797
>>162247989
Pretty sure that doesn't excuse Hana being a bitch

>>162248423
Who would've thought the most ideal form of romance is forcing your interest under pretense instead of actually being in love?

>>162248458
Of course not. Hana has actual flaws, you see. She can be self serving and too violent for her own good.

Chiyo's one flaw is she's a fucking airhead, which makes her a boring character. I'd rather have more Joe chapters than another week of "Oh gee, my birthday's coming up. I'm sure everybody I don't speak to knows about it!"

>>162248311
>truth through piss
The most cancerous thing I've ever read. Hana did nothing but force her shitty fetish onto Kiyoshi and beating the shit out of him. That's hardly a "relationship". At least Kiyoshi actually tries to be a better person for Chiyo, and she's the only character who's always been on his side.

>>162248367
Great non argument

I'll let the actual manga speak for me.

>>162248446
This comparison is so accurate it hurts

>>162248522
You make Hana out to be a deep introspective character when she's a basic tsundere template

>>162248559
>I'll let the actual manga speak for me.
No, you let your personal feelings speak for you and if the the manga doesn't support that you just twist the facts until it does. That's why there's no point in argueing with Hanashits.

>>162248546
>Hana did nothing but force her shitty fetish onto Kiyoshi
It's not a fetish, she wanted to get even after being pissed on and ended up with Kiyoshi'd throbbing cock pressed up against her.
If anyone has a piss fetish now, it's Kiyoshi. He wanted to die with a hardon, so he thought of the most erotic thing he could remember: being showered in piss.

>>162248578
She's not a deep character, but at least she actually has character is the thing here.

Reminder that Hana is the poor man's Risa

Anyone remember the chapter number where Chiyo and Kiyoshi are about to fuck

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What is her end game?

>>162248609
Nearly everything you don't like about Chiyo can be applied to Hana, Hana is just as boring and one dimensional.

>>162248608
Where's your proof? I laid out mine.

>>162245641
>That's why you plan out a story instead of winging it like an idiot.
>plan out years' worth of a weekly series that could get cancelled within the first ten chapters and will be influenced heavily by editor suggestions and reader response
You'd be wasting your time, your plan would get quickly scrapped 90% of the time.

>>162248017
>You'd need a magnum cock with premium technique to beat those bunker busters
Nope, nothing is even close to those bunker busters.

>>162248609
>the most erotic thing he could remember: being showered in piss
Which was instantly trumped by laying on Chiyo's lap. How can Hana even complete?

How can anyone not support Hana? Her chapters are the best.

>>162248686
*compete?

>>162248656
>I laid out mine.
All you did was make assertions. Look up the meaning of "proof" before you use it in a sentence.

>>162248692
Because she's a shit character and her antics are played out>>162248609

>>162248609
>actually has character
>Hana
Being an aggressive cunt sure is a brilliant character.

>>162248651
Kiyoshi wasn't enough. She wants to piss all over Chiyo too. Someone arrest this woman already.

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>>162248692
Because they're just as airheaded as the girl they like.

>mfw Chiyo discovers just how much Kiyoshi has lied to her and how close he's gotten to Hana

>>162248651
threesome

>>162248736
Name 3 better developed characters in this manga.

>>162248714
I laid out events that actually happened in the manga, can you fucking read? You just keep dismissing it as you have nothing to counter argue with.

Just admit I'm right and end this farce.

>>162248778
>I laid out events
This delusion.

Show me one page that shows Kiyoshi is the filthy pervert you Hanashits claim him to be. Oh right, you can't. But I'm sure you won't stop claiming that he is.

>>162248775
Risa, Chairman, Kiyoshi.

>>162248775
Mari, Kiyoshi, Meiko, Shitgo. There, that's 4.

>>162248651
>Break next week.
Fuck.

>>162248749
>not liking Hana means liking Chiyo
>and then calls others airheaded
Wew

>>162248867
The first fucking chapter dumbass.
Or did you miss how and why he even went to prison? And how he's lied to Chiyo about it?

Or how happy he was to be back in prison with the USC, or the fact that his major end goal here is a wet t-shirt contest?

And that's just off the top of my head.

>>162248775
I'm the anon who you're replying to: Kiyoshi, Gakuto, Andre, Mari, Meiko, Kate, Risa

>>162249003
Kiyoshi's been motivated by only two things this whole series: Chiyo and boobs. No doubt, he's a pervert. But Hana also forced him into a lot of situations. She's pretty much set herself up for failure from the beginning.

>>162249003
>Being attracted to girls means you're a pervert
This is the level of delusion we're dealing with. Seeing something that isn't there just so your headcanon makes sense.

And that's why you should never engage these people in arguments. They see what they want to see, any argument is a waste of time.

>>162249024
Don't forget Anzu. She switched sides after seeing the error of her ways. A positive development Hana has never even come close to.

Just dropping by to say Hana a best, Chiyofags need to neck themselves

>>162247912
>gay conversion
There's nothing confirming that she's gay in the first place.

>>162248651
>Chiyo
>I want you to look
Wew.

How btfo would Hanashits be if Hana actually turns out to be a dyke?

>>162249105
So you're telling me it isn't perverted to peep on girls or sneak into women's bathing areas?

>>162248311
>If Hana's the benchmark, then only Rise and Anzu are smarter
Hana only wishes she can be like Risa, everything about Risa is basically Hana but better.
>Hana and Kiyoshi have had far more onscreen development
Screentime and development are not the same, their "relationship" has gone nowhere in all the time they have together.
>than him and Chiyo ever will.
Ironically, with the limited amount of time together, she's still the only girl who has always supported Kiyoshi, and the only girl who makes Kiyoshi want to be a better person.
>Also, Hana and Kiyoshi's relationship was built on truth through piss
There's nothing "truthful" about being manipulative and abusive,
>while Chiyo and his is built on lies (him never admitting he did peep and that he actually hates sumo wrestling)
I don't know why anybody bothers bringing up sumo when it hasn't been a relevant plot point in years.
>Hana knows Kiyoshi is a perv and accepts him,
Hana is still in denial. She doesn't "accept" him, she uses him to take out her frustrations at being embarrassed. She will always put her own feelings before Kiyoshi.
>Chiyo still thinks he's some knight in shining armor and likes her idealized form of him.
Not exactly idealized, Kiyoshi does have a good number of noble moments in the series. And Chiyo even stood by his side when he was being bullied by the whole school.

>>162249163
>not liking Hana makes you a Chiyofag
Hanashits actually believe this

>>162249301
The first thing is something all guys have either done in their teens or wanted to do but didn't because they were afraid of getting caught and the second thing he didn't even want to do but needed to.

>>162249330
I'm just saying that Hana is best and Chiyofags need to kts, two entirely different things not necessarily comprising a whole

>>162249470
At least Chiyofags have good taste.

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>>162249082
That's a fair point, but one I say is important to her and Kiyoshi's development. Hana at face value is an innocent girl - never kissed, virgin, no bf, the works. But this starts to change with the arrival of Kiyoshi who is also nearly as naive. As that naivety is stripped away, Hana's inner pervert comes out with Kiyoshi as her target because she doesn't know how to handle those feelings. But as the manga progresses, she learns to get a handle on those feelings and tries to be more honest with herself and Kiyoshi, what with the date and confession.

Kiyoshi needs to come to terms with these feelings as well. He may have openly been defiant toward Hana and her antics, but he's always enjoyed them and their encounters deep within.

>>162249514
>he's always enjoyed them and their encounters deep within
Holy shit. How retarded can one person be?

>>162249470
Hana is worst though

>>162249353
Maybe so, but it's still a perverted thing to do - most fantasies of that nature are. And going by anime standards/Japanese standards, it most definitely is perverted.

Kiyoshi is probably going to end up alone anyway.

>>162249514
I mostly agree with you up until the part where Kiyoshi enjoyed the antics. But the development of Hana's character that you mentioned is accurate, it's just one sided. Between Hana and Kiyoshi, only Hana has developed. Kiyoshi is still dead set on Chiyo. I'm not denying Hana's development, I'm just saying it's one sided.

>>162249660
By anime standards holding hands is perverted.

When will Jun do Hana x Hana 2 or Clone Ningen do Beautiful Flower 3?

>>162249717
You are right, it is more skewed on Hana's end. I still think though Kiyoshi feels something for Hana, even if he isn't consciously aware of it or just suppressing it. There's been enough subtle hints throughout to make it seem that way, like the page I posted.

Either way though, it's something that is going to have to be dealt with at some point in this manga if Kiyoshi's potential relationship with any of the girls is to develop at all. There's just too much fertile ground for drama that can't be ignored there.

>>162249643
Are you sure? I could swear that she was best last time I checked

>>162249941
In your headcanon, sure

>>162249869
Pretty much, it's a loose end that's yet to be tied. I personally don't think Kiyoshi has any romantic feelings for her. She does make him hard, but given the situations he ends up in, that's not unusual. Shit, Mari, Meiko, and Risa have made him hard too.

>>162250000
>Risa
>Making anyone hard
Anon, please.

>>162250013
First, she made Kiyoshi hard when he was in prison and he kept going to the bathroom to help Mari with the escape. Second, watch your mouth. Risa is best girl.

>>162250097
>Implying it wasn't Mari making him hard all those times.
Face it, anon. Risa is fugly.

>>162250143
>he's a Marifag
No wonder. Well, at least you have some taste. I'll give you credit.
>fugly
t. Joe

>>162250143
no bully pls

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>>162244382
Shipping predictions, GO:

>Shingo x Anzu
>Joe x Cake san
>Andre x Risa
>Gakuto x worst girl, with slut chan as his mistress
>Kiyoshi x Hana!
>Mari x Kate
>Chiyo and Meiko become Christmas cakes

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>>162250143

Still too good for Andre

>>162248458
>>162247968
You know the drill, in love and war everything's game.

>>162247788
>hatefuck Kate
>Kate
You mean Mari.

>>162252105
It's too bad Kiyoshi loves somebody else

>>162252239
Not for long

>>162252858
And how do you figure that'll happen?

>>162248522
This.

>>162248609
You seem like an intelligent person that can understand the subtext of narrative works, a rare thing in Prison School threads.

It feels like TWGOK all over again, I can't stress it out enough, it's the exact same thing.

>>162252239
I don't think so. Let's wait and see what he will choose when the time comes.

>>162253181
But he's made his choice already

Chiyo/loner end, Hana is going to graduate soon

>>162253747
No. Is he with Ciyo? The manga would have ended if he did.

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>>162253865
That just makes her exempt from the retarded student council rules

>>162244382
>>162244418
here is the korean version of chapter 267
https://imgur.com/a/gPT6S

>>162254539
Where's chapter 266 then? I've only read up to 265 in English

>hana reveals kioshis boxers

>>162254691
266 hasn't been translated yet.

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>>162254822

>Hana alienates herself from Kiyoshi and Kiyoshi from Chiyo
>Mari comes in and takes the victory
Make it happen, Hiramoto.

>>162254715
I completely forgot she kept his underwear, god damn.

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>>162254993
Let's be real for a second, does Mari feel anything for Kiyoshi except pure disgust?

And more importantly, will she end up with Meiko or Kate?

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>>162255310
It's probably more she feels disgust for herself for treating him the way she has. Surely anyone with a fine ass like Kiyoshi can't possibly be a bad person.

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>>162255310
>Let's be real for a second, does Mari feel anything for Kiyoshi except pure disgust?
She has a girl-boner for his ass. And let's be real here, it's clear she has a hidden little crush on him at this point.
>And more importantly, will she end up with Meiko or Kate?
Haha no.

>>162244382
no idea but i jerk it to meiko at least twice a week

>>162255477
>jerking to a cartoon caricature of a woman

>>162255477
That's like jerking it to an oily blow-up doll, though

>>162254539
Hana's pees over Kiyoshi boxers showing Chiyo her dominance, Kiyoshi walks on that scene, just to see Chiyo taking the chalenge and peeing on Hana herself, Kiyoshi then runs to them just to trip and he lands and gets peed both by Hana and Chiyo at the same time.

It will be good chapter.

Also Meiko x Kate will happen over them haiving intense feelings for Mari.

>>162254235
He chose Chiyo as in she's the only girl he's been in love with, never said anything about them ending together

>>162255457
Well Kiyoshi x Mari won't happen due to simple fact they are the best bros at this point in story, too late for that.

Author would have to thrown away everything he build between them to turn it into romance route which I think he doesn't want to do anyway seeing how he changed their interactions from before where he liked to tease them before putting Mari x Kate yuribait.
Of course Mari x Kate will not happen anyway, Mari will not end with anyone.

>>162256529
Don't be stupid, when there's sexual attraction them being bros (which isn't true anyway) is completely irrelevant.

>>162255477
What would it be like to unload inside her pussy?

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>tfw Hana will never flash you in her pretty dress

Post Hanas please

>tfw when that butthurt Marifag is at it again

Glad to see Prison School threads are back to normal.

>>162256674
By this logic everyone can end with anybody in this manga.

Kiyoshi might be dumped by both Hana and Chiyo, Mari gets back, sees Kiyoshi depressed, asks him to go on that yakiniku meal, and suddenly they are gf and bf right there in one chapter,.
Everyone starts clasping.
The end.

In reality author can do whatever he wants and current plot and characterisation can be pretty much dismissed at any moment. So in a way there's nothing certain in this story.

>>162257498
>MarixKiyoshi

Not happening. The story may seem random at times, but it's still follows normal story conventions.

>>162257498
>By this logic everyone can end with anybody in this manga.
I never said said that all you need is sexual attraction. Just showed that the whole "they're bros" argument is stupid.

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I'm glad best girl Risa won her prizeEven though it's a shit prize, she won it none the less

>>162256520
He says he's in love with Chiyo, it doesn't mean he's in love with her, given the circumstances.

>>162257659
Why doesn't she have eyebrows? Who was she before they were gone?

>>162256520
>I want Chiyo's help to confess to flowers

That Freudian slip is quite telling and very deliberate on the author's part.

>>162257731
Which chapter did he say this in again?

>>162257593
Seeing how they acted in the prison, how they bonded, yeah they are more like bros to me than romantic pair, cavalry battle enforced that, only a bro can command another bro's dick like that, if Mari would be really into Kiyoshi she would have some reaction to him, but there was zero.

>>162258032
>only a bro can command another bro's dick like that
Oh, I get it. You're being ironic. You had me there for a while.

>>162257724
She does have eyebrows though. Can you seriously not see them?

>>162254715
You just fucking opened my eyes

>>162248681
>You'd be wasting your time, your plan would get quickly scrapped 90% of the time
>Rather make a series that goes to shit without a backup plan if successful
If your series gets cancelled then it was probably shit to begin with.

>>162257884
The one where he's trying to buy flowers for Chiyo. In the 260s.

>>162256472
Hydra style!

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>>162257047
Most of my Hanas will result in promotions, I'm afraid.

>>162259644
Spoiler it then faggot

Gimme the goodies

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>>162259821
Rood

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>>162259845
Anon pls

>>162258652
>>>Rather make a series that goes to shit without a backup plan if successful
What? You didn't describe having a back-up plan, you described having a main plan, and I'm saying that that plan would become irrelevant 90% of the time anyway, so you'd wind up winging it whether or not you came up with a plan.

>If your series gets cancelled then it was probably shit to begin with.
Don't see what that has to do with anything.

>>162244382
>dragging down
Do you know what dragged down the manga? Half a year of piggyback.

>>162260030
The big question on my mind is, is anyone going back to prison? Or will it be about busting out the chairman?

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>>162260007
>Couldn't at least erase the massive DEVIANTART tag
What're you doing, man

>>162260197
Getting you to post more lewd Hana

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>>162260284
Alright, here's a Hana in its natural habitat

>>162257667
Anon, please. He's in love with her. She's done nothing but support him.

>>162257731
Yes, Hiramoto is teasing you Hanafags again because he knows you'll take every bit of hope you can get

>>162260329
Pure trash

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>>162260562
Not very nice of you, my guy.

The numbers are in.

Mari: 10/10
Meiko: 9/10
Star-san: 7.5/10
Kate: 7/10
Chiyo 7/10
Mayumi: 6.5/10
Anzu: 6/10
Mitsuko 5.5/10
Hana: 4/10
Risa: 3/10

>>162260980
>source: my ass

>>162260980
>Anzu a 6
>Risa a 3
>Chiyo a 7
>Meiko a fucking 9
How can one man have taste this shit?

>>162260980
>Hana not low
Not really a Hanafag, but even Hanahaters should see right trough that bullshit

>>162261186
Hana has the most bland design ever. Was going to give her a 5 first but decided to deduct another number for her terrible personality.

>>162261186
>Hana that* low
fixed it

>>162261243
Hana dominated most polls anon and I think she still does. Also (you)

>>162260980
100/10: PBR-sama
9/10: Risa
8/10: Chiyo
7/10: Slut-sempai
6/10: Mari
5/10: Cake-san
4/10: Mayumi
3/10: Anzu
2/10: Mitsuko
1/10: Meiko
0/10: Kate
-100/10: Hana

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>>162261243
Those are fighting words

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>>162261243
Those numbers are by design? Then how the fuck did you conclude that Meiko is a N I N E?

>>162261285
>Appeal to popularity
Typical Hana-faggotry.

>>162261305
>4/10: Mayumi
Have you seen her in her bikini? She's actually pretty hot, just needs a better haircut.

>>162261329
Where? He mistook someone's own shit taste for fake polling results, dumb shitposter-kun

>>162261329
You're projecting too much anon.
>Typical Hana-faggotry.
Also (LOL)

>>162261372
I literally said that I gave her that number in the post he linked, genius.

>>162261383
>projecting
You have no idea what that means, do you.

>>162261368
She's alright, Cake-san surprised me though

>>162261383
>(LOL)
Don't remind me. This translation has been all over the place lately.

Why is Mari leaving? Is it because she's in love with Kiyoshi?

>>162261909
Love can be very scary, anon.

>>162261305
>Mari
>anything other than a 8/10 at bare minimum
Is this stupid shit supposed to be about looks, or does it take everything else into account too? Because if it's just about looks/design only a literal faggot would rate Mari that low, and this is coming from someone who thinks she still needs to eat some more humble pie.

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>>162261909

Its because she's in love with best girl
Kate

>>162262148
No, no, it's about everything

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>>162255310

Mari is at least lightly disgusted with Kiyoshi, but there is a glimmer of respect at his occasional display of conviction. Its not big, but its there.

And I think the answer to who Mari will end up with is obvious.

>>162248651
>a new world lies ahead
Oh, boy.

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>>162260980
>chiyo beat hana
it just keeps getting worse for hanafags

>>162263419
>he actually takes a shitlist from one anon seriously
>not even a source
You need to die.

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>>162263777
>hanafag gets this assblasted