Goku New Form : Goku conjures up spirit bomb with energy from all of u7 including the kais and beerus and absorbs it
>>162112196
And he still loses to Jiren?
>>162112744
Yes. jiren is a former god of destruction who stepped down to protect and not destroy. His power is beyond goku new form
Prepare your anus Son Goku
>>162112196
Is it just me or is Dragon Ball as a whole surprisingly lacking in honorifics? They're there, but there's way less than any other anime franchise I can think of.
>>162112196
>implying the Zenos won't be tricked into raising their hands as well
>>162112744
Just for Hitto to take the win.
When Jiren is at his absolute limit after dropping Goku off the ring.
>>162113063
Everyone is super close in this series. Goku and Krillin have been friends since they were children and everyone has a great deal of respect for each other so I feel that they no longer need the honorifics
>>162112196
how does he have time to do that
>>162115294
Jiren will keep his style
>>162112984
>Jiren could have an absurd moveset consisting of all the supposed powers attributed to Greys over the years of sci-fi and conspiracy
>He'll just energy pew and punch
>>162112744
JIRENS POWER IS
MAXIMUM
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is it time already to waku waku Ayyy's day?
>>162116072
I love Caulifla
>Hiatus
>>162113063
A lot of the characters don't come from cultures where that would be a thing, like Vegeta, or are socially ignorant like Goku. And most main characters have known each other for a long time, so there's probably a lot higher threshold for disrespect.
where the fuck is the episode
I really hope Jiren will be at least somewhat interesting. To be honest I'm not a fan of his design but that doesn't mean he can't turn out to be cool. The only thing I DON'T want is a repeat of Monaka.
>>162116171
Hey, let's just hope the 1 hour special is well animated. This is no real hiatus, just a break.
>>162115294
jiren's good at standing around and doing nothing
>>162116171
its just one week, its not like the guy responsible for the work fucked himself at the point of not being able to work properly.
>>162116273
Jiren was able to blow Kale out of her berserk state. And he managed to frighten Goku KIEROing him. Dude is legit to some degree, but they've been awfully tight fisted about it.
>>162116291
there are other people in the tournament
>>162116223
Zeno got sick if this "everybody is holding back" shit and erased the episode.
>>162116300
>hxh fans STILL getting hiatus cucked cause their creature loves Dragon Quest that much
Im so sorry
>>162116165
would /a/ like her more if she didn't easily unlock super saiyan through tingling and made her a bit thiccer?
>>162116348
/a/ doesn't like anything.
>>162116348
No. The tribals would hate her no matter what.
>>162112196
>Goku surpasses Beerus with his new form
>But just because he's using Beerus' energy
I'm okay with this, based cat
>>162116316
Not anyone worth a fuck if Goku and Jiren could btfo 90% of them in a split second if they gave enough of a shit.
I'm gonna be pleasantly surprised when it's revealed that they reason Jiren is called "the Grey" is because he's not a "muh justice" fag like Toppo, but a morally grey hero who secretly just wants a good challenge. He'll be the real counterpart to Goku.
>Bejita sama gets mafuba'd out
>Frieza gets the Jiren special
>pic related ensues on the backbench
>Whis,BILLS,Old Kai,Supreme kai, Turirin and Tienshinhan(the strongest human) are begging them to stop thinking universe 7 will get disqualified
>Both Zenos start clapping and screaming like tards watching the fight.
>Both agree that the "no killing rule" gets abolished
>TOP gets put on hold until Bejita sama kills Frieza
>Ultimate Mystic Super Saiyan white Chadhan destroys el grand padre after hearing Zenos rule change
>>162116348
the only way /a/ would like her is if she wasn't a threat to Gohan
Greetings /a/
>>162116537
Cauli is Goku's new son and there's nothing any of us can do to stop their bonding
>>162116533
Get lost waifufaggot.
>>162115831
>literally all of these hair colors in the same hairstyle are valid and different forms that exist in Dragon Ball
Except maybe green, since LSS is supposed to bulk you up and so far Kale's non-bulky Super Saiyan is just a slightly duller shade of yellow than others.
>>162116533
>>162116533
Looks like a female samurai Jack. How do people get off to this?
>>162116533
>caulifags are so starved that they use bad fanart.
if you really respect your waifu, you'd at least something that makes her look good
>>162116599
>literal bug eyed shit plus noodle proportions
She could have been in any generic seasonal moe anime and nobody would have noticed except maybe for the spiky hair.
bri
>>162116348
Can't speak for other anon's, but I'd like her more if she wore a saiyan-like outfit closer to Cabba's instead of her bland outfit. I'd like her better if she had to harness rage to go SS instead of "back tingles" as well. But really, the thing that would make me like her the most would be if shedidn't exist
What do their butts smell like?
>>162116604
Worse than that fanart is how she looks both in the show and on those design sheets.
Why do people want Super to be "DARK EDGY AND GRITTY" all the time
Not everything is gonna be the Trunks special
>>162116705
dont bring her into this you monkey!
>>162116705
They're shit so it smells exactly like them.
>>162116348
/a/ will find a reason to bitch about anything. It really isn't worth dwelling on.
>>162116533
which character was this traced off of?
>>162116746
Nice one ningen.
>>162116718
Tournment of power is literally a do or die scenario. Why the hell are they portraying it as a comedy? Every single fight in Dragon Ball and Z had far more consequences and action that this crap. DBS needs to be darker but not all the time.
>>162116728
>>162116348
I don't know about /a/ but I never liked her to begin with
>>162116837
The universe 6 saiyans have been nothing but a disaster. Cabba is forgettable, Kale is a failed Broly and Caulifla is fanservice at best.
>>162116837
that's because you're gay
>thread ruined again by U6 fags
>>162116792
They trace real porn too sometimes.
>>162116812
I mean like, people asking "BLOOD AND GORE"
-Goku Black rips Bulma's head off and rapes her-
Everyone: "EPIC!"
>>162116533
Cute.
>>162116801
Well I do aim to please.
>>162116824
>that fucking shit art
Literally fuck off and go back to deviantart, please.
>>162116280
The staff list is promising, at least.
>>162116916
>>162116926
>Tate
No it isn't.
Can't wait for the ep 5 tier QUALITY that is to come.
Why do people care about Soreru? She's just a talking rabbit.
>>162116926
So was the TOP. And we all know how bad that's going
>>162116910
that's just the edgy mexican gohan fans
Change 2 things in this arc to make it actually good.
let me see your dose face
>>162112196
This is actually Goku and Gohan after doing the fusion.
>>Surpasses his father just in time to beat Cell
>>Gets a ritual that jumps him straight from SSJ2 to >SSJ3 tier just in time to fight Buu
And the SSG ritual power boost is even more ridiculous and comes as completely new development with nothing to suggest it in the previous material; at least Gohan always had his huge potential since forever. An enormous ritual unabled power boost for Goku and Vegeta only, though? Way worse by any reasonable metric even before we consider the fact nobody else ever benefits from it.
>>162116890
Agreed, they're all trash.
>>162116891
Do your homework, Kevin.
>>162116824
this actually look less bad and less vulgar, even though its still bad art.
nice one caulifag
>>162117027
1 make it an actual battle royal as promised
2 stick to the previously established lore and powerlevels, meaning goku and vegeta overpower almost everyone without much trouble and fodder like roshi is blown away in first two episodes
>>162117027
>remove Krillin, Tien, and Gohan from the team
>have Niggerishi not be a jobber
>even in Ancient Japan, Vegeta jobs to Frieza-dono
ITS NOT FAAAAAAAAAIR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDuZ-GXbI-A
>>162117027
>Buu instead of Tien
>Have Cauli & Kale take out a bunch of members from a different universe. I like them, but it cheapens the threat that U11 (supposedly the strongest of the competing universes) was supposed to pose
>>162116890
>Caulifla
She instantly brings down the episode for me whenever she appears, so for me at least she is more like an huge disservice.
>>162112196
His new form is just random stupid fucking bullshit with cg light show pasted around his cg form and retarded grey cat eyes ala naruto.
I can not actually find a single solitary person in all of the DB fandom who doesn't make a living from this who is hyped or gives a shit about this form or super in general.
>>162116533
>those nails
shes a warrior and a delinquent not so bimbo who has time for this
>>162117045
>>162117098
>agree on the first
>not fixing it so that Kale gets ringed out by Jiren like she should have been and then Caulifla flees from the big showndown hinted at the end of ep 100 with Goku, Jiren and Hit all facing each other.
>>162117027
remove caulishit and kaleshit
So if everyone is fighting on their home planet's gravity, are Goku and Vegeta fighting on 10x gravity?What if Jiren is fighting on 1000x gravity?
>>162117289
>1000x
Childs play
>>162116316
Exactly. And they don't fight Jiren, nor does Jiren does anything to them, even when 7 of his teammates have been fucked already.
>>162117225
that's just you projecting, nigger.
>>162117251
This.
Why didn't Cabba have any bros over in his planet Salad defense force learn the SSJ transformation from him? Shit makes no sense, he had over one year and resorts to literal whos.
>>162117289
>1000x gravity
Why so little?
>>162117067
Goku gets magical bullshit rituals to boost his powers all of the time.
He pulls new techniques that he learned from alien beings and gods out of his ass all of the time
Gohan who was in canon the strongest sentient mortal on the earth from the time he stopped shitting his diapers getting a logical and ubiquitous mc-power boost is nothing.
>Tingles
>Magical ritual between pure saiyans
How is that any better than GT's SS4 vegeta?
>>162117368
>A prodigy, capable of learning 2 Super Saiyan transformations in a day, recommended by Cabba's respected colleague Renso
>The fuckin' LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN of U6
You're right. He should have just recruited any other average Joe.
>>162117368
>he had over one year and resorts to literal whos.
Not really. He went for his master. His master told him to go to the strongest he knew, his sister.
So yeah, Cabba already went for the strongest ones, not just some literal Who's, faggot.
You will always complain.
>>162117450
It's not a fucking ray made of plot device beams with a convulated storyline behind it envolving tails and golden giant monkeys or some shit whatever the fuck that was
GT babies trying to justify everything
>>162117067
Nobody likes Gohan.
He is the family jobber
>>162117548
What about Goten
>>162117586
What ABOUT Goten?
>>162117544
It is not much different from how vegeta in his very first Z appeareance used a ki ball to become a giant monkey. Or are you going to shit on Z too?
>>162117544
So you are saying blutz waves are more convoluted than "god ki" BS and the ritual involved? Sure thing bro.
>>162117586
do you mean trunks's sidekick?
>>162117586
Kid Goku v2 isnt worth talking about when hes not fused
>>162117586
who?
>>162116348
Yes. They atleast tried with Cabba by making Vegeta teach him. Her become SS and then SS2 with 0 effort and via tingling was lame.
Also where did the U6 muscles go? I know they are thinner but there was some promo art of Cabba with thin muscles and it looked great. They just draw them with 0 muscles on their arms which look off when you compare it to the rest of the people around them.
Holy fuck. Kale is annoying.
>>162117586
>Gohan "The Prodigy"
>Turns SSJ at the age of ten, has to be locked in an inescapable realm where time moves slower just to do so
>Gets fawned over as if he's some big deal
Goten the TRUE PRODIGY
>Was practically a Super Saiyan all his life
>Ignored
TOP KEK
>>162116533
>lets post a trace that has a body that's totaly different from what he actually has
Do you even like Caulifla? because that's like putting a random head over someone else's body.
>>162117729
Yes, she and her older sis really are.
>>162117729
What the fuck did you say, you little bitch?
>>162117777
No one can possibly like the stick design she was given.
The fapboys just use her as an out for their virgin urges. Other than that no one likes her.
>>162117027
1.Tiered battles with people of equal power levels fighting each other in themed stages.
The battle royale is just a way to cut the chafe from the chaff and them stating that they're erasing their universe was just to make them fight harder.
2.No universal erasure retardation. The winner gets to use the till that moment kept by the GP super dragon balls to have rule free GP won't say shit and zeno(s) won't do anything wishes.
The political battles in the background, the evil beings who all want to have this universe destroyed or merge with and control that universe and beings who want to become immortals ala frieza during the namek saga.
The universes all enter, yes even the ones that are exempt, because who ever wins will be able to use the power of the creator gods' greatest creation, the super dragon god zalama, to change the face of all that is.
Bonus wishes!
Cabba is one of only 4 supersaiyajins in his universe. One is a child, one is a mass murdering sociopath that Hiit had to kill, the other is the eldest daughter of their king.
None of them are as strong as him.
The U6 humans however are the powerful warrior race that they have to fear.
The other universes have side stories that show their heroes and villians doing battle before we eventually get to the tournament.
The pride troopers know of Gohan and Gohan knows of them because he and Videl had to stop a mad scientist from destroying the universe and were accidentally transported to their universe.
Also 17 and Piccolo have apparently been sparring for years.
>>162117826
Remember when she was supposed to be from u11?
You know what. I could have excused the wreck that is the RoF arc if they just left this guy alone from Gotenks stupid nut shot gag and bringing Ginyu back.
>>162117849
Delete this retard. You know everyone hates them.
>>162117544
>plot device beams with a convulated storyline behind it envolving tails and golden giant monkeys or some shit whatever the fuck that was
That was a continuation from the original dragon ball lore with the giant monkeys and tails which had been abandoned after getting SS. Honestly it was way better than just holding hands with a fetus to get stronger.
>>162117849
I usually mentally ignore all the Chad posts unless it was making fun of people who just got eliminated and comparing them like CHADshi posting and Tien Wojaks.
shit was enough to make me giggle
>>162112196
Was the half baked "Saiyan Beyond God" the worst concept in early DBS? The reintroduction of SSG is like an apology by Shueisha for their fuck up.
>>162117873
Why did Gotenks defuse within 2 seconds of showing up anyway? It's been proven in Z he can circle the planet in minutes. What was he doing?
>>162117586
He's Trunks' power up.
why do i keep hearing that vegeta is going to get mafubad?
Time for your daily pokédose /a/
>>162117849
Obviously, yes. They are just as bad. Now stop giving them attention.
>>162117968
spoilers confirm he is and that Frieza teams up with Frost. Who'd have guessed?
>>162117968
More like namek'ed
>>162117941
You mean in the Ressurection F movie and its manga?
Goku never ever had god ki in his base anywhere in Super if that's what you mean by saiyan beyond god.
>>162117912
It's a fucking retcon more convulated than God Ki (what is complicated about it? It's only you fags that make it seem soooo hard) yet you justify it simply cus it's not Super
give me a goddamn break
>>162118069
What even is so convoluted about it?
>>162118069
There is nothing complicated about God Ki, it's just stupid. Trashes on everything about training when you can just hold hands and go beyond SS, SS2 and SS3.
>>162118045
Nor did he had it anywhere in the movies or manga, anon. Literally wikifaggots trying to come up with excuses
>>162117941
>Was the half baked "Saiyan Beyond God" the worst concept in early DBS? The reintroduction of SSG is like an apology by Shueisha for their fuck up.
I don't even really consider "Saiyan Beyond God" as something retconned. Doing the ritual boosted Goku's base power. That's all. Gohan was weak as shit in Res F because he's a pussy who doesn't train. As far as I'm concerned the movies are canon because Goku went SSG again after losing it during towards the end of his fight with Beerus.
Also Vegeta did the ritual and the anime fucked it up by saying he didn't.
>People think Super Saiyan F(o)ur is better than Limit Breaker, SSG, or SSB
>>162118096
The tail thing. Having a tail and unlocking super saiyan never ever was supposed to unlock a golden oozaru. But its ok since i watched it when I was 8 it is cool!
>>162118111
>There is nothing complicated about God Ki, it's just stupid
its basically the same Ki but a different level
Goku and Vegeta still have to train to use it well
>>162118128
>As far as I'm concerned the movies are canon because Goku went SSG again after losing it during towards the end of his fight with Beerus.
Exactly this but fags choose to ignore it in favor of a wikipedia article on "Saiyan beyond Gods" because they are retarded
>>162118153
Way better than dumb shit such as stacking super saiyan on SSJg and the result being a new recolor, or double auras with stacked KK on top of SSJGSSJ.
>>162118207
GT was boring. Cry harder.
>>162118069
How it is a retcon? It follows stuff stablished in DB and early DBZ unlike super's bullshit of have saiyans holding hands, get epic power, trust me, its part of a legend even more legendary than the legend of the super saiyan
>>162116072
WAKEY WAKEY
>>162118207
GT Baby everyone
>>162118244
>A spin-off made by Toei without the creator's input is better than Super
>Super is shitty because it's Toei
MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMN MINDS TOEISHILLS
>>162118045
I don't necessarily mean God Ki in base, I just mean the whole half assed concept that's not well defined to begin with.
I love the simplicity of the manga though which makes it clear cut when Goku activated and utilizes his God Ki.
>>162118069
>>162118153
Wasn't a Super Saiyan Great Ape shown in some anime filler? Also it makes sense that you could put those two transformations together. Heck I'd argue that makes more sense than any of the other Super Saiyan transformations past the original. For everything GT did wrong, that wasn't one of them. If you find that convoluted then you're just a dumbass who has no concept of simplicity.
>>162118291
I'm not even a toeishill, I just find very hypocrite that people shits on the method to achieve SS4 when SSG and SSGSS are a lot more times a bigger asspull.
>>162112196
Why can't dumb Japs keep anything a surprise anymore?
>>162118349
True, once again Toei's anime fucked up this time by discarding SSG way too soon and at the same time overusing SSB.
>>162118199
I blame Toei more than the Wiki and DBH. The issue really stems from toriyama's quote from the "F" Guidebook where he mentions it as a one liner description for SSGSS. I think the whole thing got blown out of proportion thanks to the ambiguity of their strength post absorption by Goku in BoG and also their emphasis on base form in RoF.
Either way I'm glad SSG is back to our base form in its place.
>>162118350
Super is bad because of Toei? But GT is somehow godly?
Sure makes sense anon.
>>162118390
Everybody shits on SSG and SSB all the time.
Fucking GT babies
Problably likes the dub too
>>162118457
Toriyama is a retarded and people kept asking too many retarded questions, he just wanted to answer them.
>>162116419
>implying
Budweiser will just say "lel, now I'll use 65% of my alcohol content!" and then BTFO Goku yet again. Goku will not surpass Pale Ale until maybe the absolute final episode of Super.
>>162112910
Nice headcanon
>>162112196
>absorbs energy of everyone through a spirit bomb
So, they're going to use the finish from Super Android 13?
GT
>great story
>great characters
>great animation
>great music
>great fights
Super
>shit story
>shit characters except Zamasu
>shit animation
>shit music
>shit fights
GT > Super
>>162118468
Lies. Pretty much most of the fanbase embraced SSG and SSGSS by now as the awesome new hotness and even are eager to see future bullshit super saiyan forms.
>>162118543
Yes, Super can't do original content and relies on stealing from DBZ movies (inclusing the entire two first arcs).
>at least its better than GT they said.
>GTpedros and superpedros actually have to argue which is better
why can't Z get a proper sequel?
You really have no business saying GT was a tenth as good as Super.
>>162118603
We [they] don't deserve nice things.
>>162118528
>Goku will not surpass Pale Ale until maybe the absolute final episode of Super.
nothing can surpass Pale ale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6z9CGq5fas
>>162112196
>absorbing energy from genki dama
I'm actually ok with this.
>>162118588
Don't forget that it also uses ideas introduced in dragon ball fanfics
>>162118576
fuck off
>>162118576
>Gt
>great story
Stopped transforming there
>>162118616
Stop it anon if I laugh any harder I may die for real.
>>162118576
Patrician taste. Truer words have never been spoken before
>>162118576
>Super
>shit music
?
>>162117027
Make it an actual Survival arc, ala the dozens of Battle Royals out there, on a giant uninhabited planet, with the killing allowed option. At least now things would make much more sense. Then Toppo would have a reason to go all "it's all about survival now" due to seeing many of his comrades killed off, Freeza+Frost actually having a legitimate reason to betray their respective U's, and Hit not having to hold back anymore. that's really the only thing that needs to be changed.
>>162118291
Occasionally paying or forcing toriyama to say "Yeah I made it" is bullshit when you consider that every single horrifyingly bad decision and plotline has absolutely nothing to do with Toriyama.
>>162118739
If you two are patricians, you're really stupid ones.
>>162118576
>great story
>great characters
>great animation
>great fights
The fuck are you smoking.
>>162118771
Toriyama isn't even alive anymore, Super is using his name posthumously to rake in sales and take people for fools into thinking Super trash is canon for increased sales. Take that away from it and it would have been an huge failure and an actual franchise killer unlike what Gt haters to tis day make GT look to be.
>>162118383
it's good, but how they go about it and the color scheme and magical pants of SSJ4 is retarded though.
It makes sense that having a tail while being a SSJ would allow for the golden Oozaru form Goku accidentally stumbling upon it while he was a child and his tail grew back would have been fucking funny and crazy as shit.
Hell it could have made goku have a logical weakness because his golden oozaru form was so powerful and he couldn't fully control himself in oozaru form.
If SSJ4 came at the culmination of a lot of stuff and it kept the blonde hair form it would be great.
>>162118854
Not our fault that you are a pleb with shit taste and inferior intellectual capabilities who can't grasp the difference between quality and shit
what's the matter jiren? getting angry?
>>162118960
All of those points for GT are wrong. You're just a retarded pseudo-intellectual hipster.
>>162118960
>one's dogshit
>the other is bigger dogshit
i dunno mang
So i've been playing dokkan and it reminded me about the only part of GT that isn't shit
How would a 100 years after super ova look like?
>>162118587
>SSG and SSGSS
People embraced the fact that it was a new movie that was supposedly backed by Toriyama.
The SSG godform itself was not well liked at all.
SSGSS was considered odd and is only accepted because we can't do shit about it.
If people find out that we have that new SSJB form with it's retarded color scheme because of Toriko shilling there will be hell to pay.
>>162119056
KANO SE WA DOA WA
>>162119056
How does Godhan even manage to take all the good lines in the show for himself anyways?
>>162118941
>Toriyama isn't even alive anymore,
really?
I'd heard the rumors but is it true?
As for everything else you've said? You're 500% correct. This series would be considered worse then fucking GT and most of the top DB fanfiction out there. The IP would be litterally dead and Toei wouldn't be able to sell shit anymore.
All of the DB stuff sold and consumed would be DB AU's created by fans
>>162118960
There it is again. The retard, unable to accept its inferiority, repeatedly asserts intelligence it does not have.
>>162118587
Ok buddy
>>162118576
Ok
>>162119261
>All of the DB stuff sold and consumed would be DB AU's created by fans
Dragon Ball as a franchise was doing ok before Super
In fact Super didn't change that, except for the statues with blue hair instead of gold.
>>162119331
>Super faggot left speechless upon finding himself unable to refute anything in the last 50 posts
As you would say, it's okay, everybody with taste had long known that GT was better than Super. That was obvious to anyone ever since the movie retellings.
>>162118941
You say that when GT only ran for 64 episodes and nothing else was made aside from videogames.
>>162119506
>Super can't sell shit
tell that to DBheroes
>>162118941
GT did kill the franchise for a long time.
Spoilers for those who missed them.
>>162117045
>>162118003
Why would a Namekian have a penis if they reproduce asexually?
>>162119506
Sources on this?
>>162119697
>>162119506
Good.
Dragon Ball has deserved to die ever since the abomination that Z is began.
It was an adventure show with some fighting, not this autistical Super Saiyan trash.
>>162119506
you're joking right? Dragon Ball has never made so much money like now, memes aside the Super anime isn't gonna stop anytime soon.
>>162119619
Dammit! Gohan fans are so annoying.
>>162119697
My ass.
>>162119231
I dunno. Why isn't he ever able to back them up?
>>162119506
Source: my ass
>>162119783
You know what you do to annoying people? You ignore them.
>>162119506
>"I-I don't like it! Therefore, its popularity is tanking!"
Would anyone here really care if we never saw any of the other universes again? All of the fighters introduced this arc have been either generic as fuck or a complete joke.(That last one was directed at the universe 6 saiyans, who outright suck ass)
>>162118576
>great
>>162119738
Your time has passed a long time ago, humanfag.
>>162119738
It stopped being an adventure show after toriyama realized that it wasn't doing too well.
Which is where yamcha and eventually the oxking and then roshi came in.
And if it wasn't for Z DB would have been a completely forgotten shounen.
>>162119924
This.
The sooner the next universe gets erased, the soonerwe can shitpost dank new memes
So, which universe is going bye-bye next? I'd pay for it to be 6
>>162119924
>And if it wasn't for Z DB would have been a completely forgotten shounen.
So?
Dragon Ball had a perfect ending, Goku getting married and moving on.
Why do I care about how popular it was?
>>162119924
Yeah, and then all plot was replaced with blond, spiky haircuts and retarded screaming.
>>162119954
>Goku getting married
Single handedly the biggest mistake in the Dragon Ball franchise.
>>162119951
The universe with the mouse god has been nothing but jobbers so far. They are going next.
>>162119990
No, the biggest mistake was when Goku transformed into a Super Saiyan.
>>162119954
>moving on
Moving on from what?
He had just spared the villain just so he could have someone on his level around to motivate him on his training autism.
>>162119954
>Why do I care about how popular it was?
Because you're a viewer. Toriyama realized he could make money and increase popularity. Even if you as the viewer disagree with his choice, can you fault someone for wanting to make it big with their brainchild?
Odds of Toriyama actually being dead and Toei covering it up?
>>162120037
Precisely because i'm a viewer I don't care about it's popularity.
It used to be a decent show, and it was all thrown into the trash.
>can you fault someone for wanting to make it big with their brainchild?
When quality is hurt, yes, but as you said, DBZ was just a cash grab.
>>162120020
>>162119990
Single biggest mistake was Goku not picking Suno but kids turning Super Saiyan feels like it cheapens the myth quite a lot.
>>162119803
Just you wait anon, very soon and you will get to witness it.
>>162120079
Nani?
>>162120120
Chi Chi was a mistake.
>>162120120
The myth died when Trunks transformed into a Super Saiyan.
It was supposedly something that only happened once every a thousand years, and turns out that just with some training you can do it.
For fucks sake, every single Saiyan in DBZ ended up becoming a Super Saiyan.
>>162120079
>Toriyama
>dead
Please no
>Universe 7 gets erased and so does DBS as a result
How do you feel?
>>162117084
>>162117086
>>162117098
>>162117840
>this are same people complaining about Toei writers and Toyotoro
I'm not surprised but lmao
>>162120170
>training
Tell that to the U6 fuckers.
>>162120170
>>162120162
Couples in Dragonball should've been.
Goku x Suno
Krillin x Bulma
Yamcha x Chi-chi
Tien and Lunch was the only canon couple I actually liked.
>>162120189
Some bullshit is going to happen where all the universes become one or that will be Goku's wish at the end.
>>162118941
>Toriyama isn't even alive anymore
Are you retarded?
>>162120259
>Some bullshit is going to happen where all the universes become one or that will be Goku's wish at the end.
They'll just revive everyone from the other universes and put them in Universe 7.
Daily reminder
>>162120305
>Denying it.
Are you?
>>162120259
No, Chi Chi should not have existed. Krillin took years to get married, so who cares about him?
>>162120316
So you are retarded.
>The potara have a time limit
>The potara can be used more than once in your lifetime
Explain this Superfag
>>162120386
Ningens cannot handle the Kai-earrings
>>162120350
18 x Vegeta should've been end result for him.
>>162117067
>SSJ3 tier
he literally jumps up to fusion tier
SSJ Gotenks is High-SSJ3 Tier
>Exist only to be Goku's wife
>Suck at being Goku's wife
Defend this.
>>162120491
>exists only to be Krillins wife
>infinite stamina
>only 1 child
Defend this
>>162120079
>>162120186
>>162120523
Krillin's fault for not inseminating her more often.
>>162120523
Kuririn can't keep up
>>162120558
who are these old peopl
>>162120577
18! I WONT FLATER THIS TIME.
LEAVE YOUR WOMB TO ME
>>162120558
Here's he drawing a King Slime.
>>162120577
>infinite stamina
>Don't tell me you're done already anon, it's only been 37 hours.
>>162120607
>>162120577
dont bother coming home ToP kekririn.
>>162120595
Japan gaming legends.
>>162120595
Oh, god. Lurk more.
>>162116348
I love characters that can trigger their series' fanbase, I'd love Cauli anyway.
>>162112196
but whats it called? and then can he kaio ken on top of that
>>162120741
It's calledMystic Goku, the form Gohan got half way through Z
>>162120720
>any saint seiya after the 12 houses arc
nope
>>162120794
Gohan has never even touched a spirit bomb who the hell is he
>>162120838
except he did when he deflected it to Vegeta
>>162120741
Can't wait for the calm ki control bullshit in the anime to go away once and for all. Good riddance.
>>162120838
>Gohan has never touched a Spirit Bomb
Lurk for 2 years.
>>162120838
Don't give Gohanfag attention.
>>162120720
Oh was she the one that wanted some dragon cock? Love that gal
>on numerous occasions, omni king has shown favoritism toward goku
i honestly dont think it would be very hard for goku to at least get the omni king that recognizes him and favors him to raise his hands in the air during the spirit bomb. all it takes is some method of getting the omni king's attention and cooperation, which he has already done on many instances. the omni king is a child after all. and can you fucking imagine the absurd boost he'd gain from it? beerus, all of u7, and the omni king himself. im surprised more people arent talking about this possibility. and if the writers overlook it as an option at the very least, ill be kind of surprised.
>>162120720
>love Cauli anyway.
Stopped reading right there.
>>162120794
>Halfway through Z
What the fuck
>>162120893
If anything like this happens I'm dropping DBS. Why the hell would any of the other universes stand back and allow Goku the time to do this?
>>162120928
That's the end of the post, you stupid ass.
>>162120720
I can remember my fellow Spics tears through all this series. Just fucking delicious crying to get more of that other Gold Saint wank fest Lost Canvas
>>162112196
Source?
>>162120720
This anon understands me.
What is this Spirit Bomb theory I'm seeing? Genkidama by the way
>>162120986
I would only have known there was anything after that if I had continued reading after it, you retard.
>>162116652
Over hyped shit.
>>162121061
spoilers confirm Goku will try to use a Genki-Dama
>>162116895
nice just watched this last night
Caulifla and Kale are probably more popular in Mexico than in the U.S.
>>162121079
>Using a technique that worked 1 out of 3 times.
Ok so how are they really going to beat Jiren?
>>162121147
DBS as a whole, too.
where are the spirit bomb form leaks?
>>162120976
well, i meant more of a shouting out to the omni king quickly, something that gets his attention in a snap. like i said, he's a child. he's also been shown to react impulsively, like when he destroyed the the world in the future trunks timeline. granted, if something like this were to happen, i obviously dont expect goku to get all of the omni king's power or whatever, just a fraction gained in the time the omni king raises his hand. enough to push him over the edge and overpower jiren. but by the logic of other universes standing around and waiting for goku, how is he even going to get away with forming a spirit bomb? im sure the other fighters will be kept at bay somehow by the other u7 fighters, to give goku time to form the spirit bomb, whether or not the omni king idea happens.
What's the matter, /a/?
>>162121185
>Ok so how are they really going to beat Jiren?
>>162121273
I'm praying for this to happen actually
>>162121185
In all honesty, i can see the tournament ending due to time limit and Goku and Jiren still standing.
this time Goku will just end up in a tie
Goku and Jiren will be the last two fighters standing, Gohanfags.
>>162121273
I don't care how they do it as long as it produces some quality butthurt.
Anybody really likes Jiren's design in spite of everything else? He's basically just a swole as fuck grey alien and that's the entire concept of him.
>>162121388
They don't call him thelast man standing. ass kicking machinefor nothing anon.
So spoilers for next episode say Freeza is going to team up with Frost to betray their respective universes.
seriously? All that build up for freeza being a serious fighter and hype bringing him back teasing him as becoming a good guy, all of that just to have RoF part 2?
this show is becoming so boring and predictable.
>>162120893
Goku doesn't like using power that isn't his own
He didn't even like god mode at first because he only got there thanks to his friends but he knew it was the only way and later he started using him because his body kept the power
Why is Vegeta so great, lads?
Worst Tournament ending? One so bad /a/ would go into a complete meltdown?
>>162121531
>teasing him as becoming a good guy
You actually believed Frieza, of all people, would become a good guy?
Are you fucking dense?
>>162116348
I am not a fan of the celery saiyan design but it's okay otherwise. The tingling stuff is stupid, sure, but I can rationalize it by saying that the U6 saiyans pretty much know how it works due to years of experience and it's probably easier to achieve than anyone thought.
Homosexuality is wrong.
>>162119738
>All this denial
>>162121575
hahaha this.The day Frieza was considered for the TOP was the day the fans knew he was going to be a backstabbing little shit. Sooner he's gone for good the better. There's only so many times you can recycle a villain.
>cares about his race
>kills his bodyguard and doesn't give a shit about radditz
As a whole DBS is worse than GT
>>162121715
>cares about his raceHis race being manlet, neither Raditz or Nappa were.
>>162121715
he has pride in his race and himself. Does he care about the race in that way? no, not really
Reminder...
>>162121575
>You actually believed Tien, of all people, would become a good guy?
>You actually believed Piccolo, of all people, would become a good guy?
>You actually believed Vegeta, of all people, would become a good guy?
>You actually believed the androids, of all people, would become a good guy?
>You actually believed Buu, of all people, would become a good guy?
>You actually believed Kid Buu, of all people, would become a good guy?
need I say more?
>>162121741
If it isn't, it's real close to being that bad. I still think this tournament is the lowest point in the Dragon Ball franchise.
>>162121763
No you already proved you are retarded
>>162121316
Nah, Zeno will say they like it and play on it.
How do powerlevels work in Super again?
like, I remember in Z the logic was
"villan of the week" > our heroes
our heroes train > get stronger > villan of the week
and so on
Our heroes' battles in Super don't show off everything they can do
Things became different now, right?
>>162121763
You just went full retard
>>162121763
Tien, Piccolo, and Vegeta wasnt introduced by Genocideing an entire race of Green men and bent on becoming immortal.
Both Buu's were wished into being Good
Vegeta and Piccolo got EARTHED
Androids compromised and overcame their programming
>>162121763
To be fair, they all had their reasons, and Buu had some magic shenanigans done with him.
Frieza has been a grade A cunt all his life, I can't really see him changing.
>>162121763
Frieza killed Vegeta and Krillin, beat Goku, Gohan and Piccolo brutally and even attempted to kill Goku after he spared his life. Frieza isn't ever going to be a good guy.
>>162121575
>inb4 he gets erased and that is the last we see of him
>>162121805
Whomever the suits want to sell to the audience today will get a nonsensical powerlevel boost.
Also, they all apparently hate everything about DBZ and have no idea how any of it works.
>>162121854
>inb4 he gets revived and blows up the Earth while Goku and Vegeta are sleeping.
>>162112196
So what's the new form called?
>>162121805
If by 'Z' you mean Cell arc aka its lowest point pre-Super then yes, sure.
That formula doesnt really work anywhere else.
>>162121946
>>162121964
fake and gay
>>162121763
>>162121830
Why Goku gave Vegeta a second chance when it's proven that he, as a soldier of Frieza and conqueror of several planets since he was a child, killed perhaps more people than Frieza... but Goku never thought about reviving his brother Raditz?
>>162121686
But Frieza did nothing wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw
>>162121888
Was DB the same too? I didn't watch it (yeah, I watch it, don't start shit)i realize I should have used "Z warriors" lol
>>162121972
Hmm you mean Goku's role in Buu saga and stuff like that, right? I see...
>>162121805
You know what bugs me the most? The power of Blue. God was able to fight on-par with beerus on, being very generous, 50%. God is equivalent to Blue at roughly 50%, being VERY generous. Therefore, Blue would be about as strong as Beerus. Nope, still gets fucking shit on.
I don't fucking get it.
>>162121964
probably Limit Break
>>162122022
It was never supposed to be close to Beerus retarded
Beerus is endgame
>>162116300
>believen his lies
>>162122073
*Bills
>>162122003
>killed perhaps more people than Frieza
Not even close. Frieza conquers and destroys more than a monkey could ever hope for.
Goku saw the Good in Vegeta and his strength so he let him go, Same thing in Piccolo.
Raditz had no hope.
>>162121979
vegeta honestly wouldve killed himself if movie was canon. he fell to his knees and told everyone to run.
>>162122079
You're not wrong
>>162112196
Why didn't Beerus just step down to participate?
>>162122079
>>162114544
That would actually be pretty funny, wouldnt mind if he won that way.
>>162121833
>>162121830
Do you people even watch the fucking show? All of those characters except maybe Tien and Fat Buu were introduced as being just as bad or WORSE than freeza at the time of their introduction and you only think of them as being good now due to years of character development.
Piccolo was INTRODUCED as a being of pure evil, the antithesis of God himself, and an ancient demon bent on ruling the world. Sure NOW he's an retconned as being a wise old alien, but at the time of his introduction he was literally Satan himself, and only wanted to kill. By the way he killed goku's friends, the dragon, all previous fighters, cities, etc. Just as bad or worse than freeza.
The Androids killed off an entire fucking timeline of Z fighters for their own amusement and saw killing as a fun game. They were seriously sadistic serial killers until they were retconned as being "not as evil" as their future counterparts.
Vegeta blew up planets with no remorse. He fucking murdered his one and only companion in cold blood simply because he was embarrassed he lost a fight. Literally just as bad as freeza was.
Kid Buu was a being of pure evil and insanity, killed gods, destroyed GALAXIES, and couldn't be reasoned with, yet he too was able to be reborn as good.
Freeza could EASILY be given a few episodes of personal character development where he learns empathy and given a few BS reasonings a retcons for his previous misdeeds (like beerus telling him to blow up planet vegeta and his dad pushing him to become emperor/not really being his fault) and become a good guy across the course of an arc or two.
>>162122098
As in dollar bills???
>>162114544
>raise your hands if you think my new form looks shit
Every person in the tournament and on the bench would raise their hands.
>>162122122
>hurrr Goku can do no wrong he can see the good in those evildoers that's why he wants them alive
This is some next level BS, fuck it.
>>162112196
>Everybody wanting to know what the new form is.
Its the Genki Kaioken X number.
>Kaioken.
>Start Genki force absorb "no permission needed."
>Snatch up the Ki from not gods of destruction but the angels themselves since they are stronger as well as the twins.
>Absorb Genki into self and create a destructive fusion.
>Jiren stronger then the gods of destruction.
>>162122122
Frieza only killed the saiyans and some Namekians, his soldiers did the rest, meanwhile, Vegeta when he was just a kid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Ow1YHD0FA
Vegeta is more genocide than Frieza, IMO.
>>162122239
>being just as bad or WORSE than freeza at the time of their introduction and you only think of them as being good now due to years of character development.
No.
Maybe only Piccolo and that's a different case because he was quite literally, reborn. It's a different Piccolo.
He spoke like a true faggot who never watched the show but heard some stuff that came before Z.
Is it just me or is Toppo, a Pride Trooper, being a GoD candidate fucking retarded
>>162121763
Kid buu was never a good guy all the rest seem pretty reasonable except maybe vegeta who basically had 3 arcs of character development.
>>162122299
Because Frieza told him so.
And no, yeah, frieza killed more. Like, billions more. Kep crying faggete
>>162122022
Well, I do not feel like doing math or anything, but I want to point out something: hakkai
"hakkai", an special "magic" thing Gods of Destruction can do. Can it be learned and mastered? I don't know... Whis certainly hoped for Vegeta and Goku to be future GoD, didn't he??
I see GoD on a higher plane. The thing that confused me: what Whis intended to do, to make mortals become gods... I wanted to see GoD, like I said, on a higher plane (gods, not mortals) but this fact troubled me...
>>162122239
Nothing can be worse than real estate speculators that killed Japan's economy you filthy ningen.
>>162112196
Will the other gods give him power because they are afraid of jiren destroying their universes too?
>>162122239
>monkey murdered his ally
>Demon bent on ruling earth
>Modified humans killing the human race for fun
>JUST AS BAD AS A TYRANT GENOCIDING ACROSS THE GALAXY BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE CAN
Are you fucking retarded?
>>162122324
he would destroy evil
also, whatever the fuck a GoD "candidate" means. Aren't Vegeta and Goku also candidates or whatever? Who cares
>>162122338
it's Hakai.
Beerus is a suicidal kind of lazy.
>>162122285
>Goku can do no wrong
Where in the post did it say that?
Almost everything Goku did was wrong but it benefitted Earth and such in the long run.
>>162122329
With your logic Frieza isn't a genocidal, because Beerus told him to kill the saiyans...
>>162122324
Just because he is a justice fag doesn't mean he won't kill, in fact plenty of these will do so when they deem necessary.
This is why Goku as a Superman wannabe in the dub makes no sense and qualifies as character derailment there.
>>162112910
no way clown god has been there before jiren was even born
>>162122428
Toppo has killed and he tried to kill Goku. He's fascist.
>>162122465
Literally nothing wrong with destroying evil.
>>162122365
all of those characters would have easily done the same thing had they been in freeza's position, they just didn't have the technology/power level to genocide more than one planet. Just because their actions weren't as bad doesn't mean their personalities and psychologies weren't as fucked up and evil as freeza's when they were introduced
>>162122428
It just doesn't seem like something he'd be into. It's not like a GoD's job is to stop evil. They are literally tasked with nuking planets to make room for more. I doubt there's a single planet that is nothing but pure concentrated evil beings.
>>162122488
>this entire arc
Zamasu was right.
>>162122503
You can say that about Any fuckign villain
>Taopaipai wouldve done the same thing if he was Frieza level
>Commander Black wouldve done the same thing
>Nappa wouldve done the same thing
Can't wait for tournament arc.
>>162122503
This is the flimsiest non-argument I've ever heard. Neck yourself.
>>162122550
this is the most loved arc so far with only 0.6% hating it and a majority of 60% liking it
>>162122646
I was talking about tournament one.
>>162122663
me too
ToP is loved outside our /a/ echo chamber.
>>162122646
No, lots of people hate it. It's just that the vocal minority constantly praise it.
It's shit. Especially how it ends.
burgers and their obsession with being a hero, goku is not a superman, stop being hipocrytes, goku is a guy that likes to fight and get stronger at any cost, he reached god status, no ningen will be able to help him to reach his goal, stop being deusional and see whats in front of you ffs.
>>162122626
>>162122488
Goku isn't evil.
>>162121715
sayian pride if they lose they are failures who deserve to die
>>162122706
no but he has been changed from a naivie good guy to a naive psychopath.
>>162122701
He's not a Superman clone, but he's also not a faggot retard that puts people in danger just to get sooper dooper stronk moosels.
>>162122646
show me this poll please
>>162122708
Then why Vegeta didn't kill himself?
>>162121759
Fusion doesn't give you a different eye color anon
Let's do something fun: Point out something you consider to be a plothole, inconsistency, error, etc. Another anon will come in and try to explain it as best they can without headcanon.
>>162122866
Cell learning instant transmission.
>>162122847
because vegeta is royalty and exempt to the lower class of sayians
>>162122854
Nice headcanon.
>>162122829
he didn't knw zeno would erase the universes, but since hes doing it, better fight it off and survive it.
thats pretty much his logic
>>162122866
Mr. Popo made a wish on the dragonballs to resurrect everyone killed by Frieza and his men. This wish was made only 4 months after the wish to resurrect Son Goku
>>162122866
Cell regenerating from Goku's Kamehameha, which destroyed the core in his head.
>>162122866
17 doing literally nothing during the buu saga
>>162122866
how did black get ss rose
>>162122931
Holy niggershit I never caught that
>>162120107
what do you think about DBZ before Super Saiyan?
>Dragonball should have ended with Cell with Gohan taking up the mantel of his father
>Dragonball should have ended with boo being defeated by Gohan who was again the strongest non fused character thus succeding his father
>Dragonball Super should end with Gohan when he becomes the strongest...
anyone notice a patern
>>162122944
He killed himself because his minotaur was blasted by Buu
>>162122963
>butterfly
Teach me
>>162122854
I know... but you will see.
>>162122972
>anyone notice a patern
Yeah, it's a good thing spics don't control Dragon Ball
>>162122898
its not a head canon though. You get characteristics of two fused people. Besides Gohan doesn't know fusion.
>>162122866
where were all the universe’s powerful fighters when kid buu was destroying the universe?
nobody mentions frieza has a family before king cold shows up?
some people reappear on earth after being wished back to life, some on king kai’s planet?
>>162122963
abusing zenkai togheter with god ki
>>162122931
>>162122972
>Dragon Ball Z should have ended with Goku coming back to Earth after Freeza.
>Dragon Ball Super should have been a better Cell Saga.
Give or take, remove a lot of dumb shit from Z and Super and you can maybe put together something interesting.
>>162122579
>>162122637
you people are fucking retarded. I'm tired of even trying to explain this shit to you. This is a fucking show where every single arc a bad guy is introduced as being the worse thing ever and the next arc become good guys.
literally the point of the show is that nobody is irredeemable. But you don't want to listen to reason or logic because it goes against your headcanon
your whole argument is
>LOL FREEZA IS WORSE AND IRREDEEMABLE BECAUSE HE KILLED MORE PEOPLE
WELL NONE OF THE OTHER FUCKING CHARACTERS HAD SPACE SHIPS AND ARMIES SO OF COURSE THEY COULDN'T DO THE EXACT SAME SHIT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WEREN'T ANY LESS EVIL OR MAKE FREEZA MORE EVIL DIPSHITS
>>162123096
They can change whatever they want. Remember when Vegito's fusion was unlimited?
>>162122888
genetic memory, yeah, thats a thing in DB
>>162120720
>they introduced a sister she never mentioned to rehash the original Gemini instead of turning her good
>sister is boring as shit
>>162122931
>>162122967
That's because Kami and Piccolo died, the same happened in Dragon Ball, when Piccolo killed Shenlong...
>>162123129
>F-FUCK YOU A-ACCEPT MY HEADCANON AND FLIMSY LOGIC
>T-THEY WOULD HAVE D-DONE THE SAME T-THING
>CAPS LOCK MAKES MY ARGUMENT MORE VALID
Don't give yourself a heart attack sperging out, fuckboy.
>>162122866
No one tried to seal off buu with the mafuba
>>162121759
The reason Gohan is in the end credits like that, looking untouched, and Goku looking to him and smiling after he just looked like he had lost hope is similar to what happened to Gohan after his dad died and was their in spirit helping him.
Gohan just died, and he joins his dad similar to how Vegita did in Goku's head for the final fight.
Gohan gets killed accidentally.
>>162123149
Goku learned it after Namek. Remember, no headcanon.
Goku not having a no-kill rule makes him a better hero than 75% of DC
>>162123196
why do you give me false hope
>>162123196
God please let this happen just so the Gohanniggers finally fuck off
>>162123221
and 100% of Naruto characters who are all around shitty people. Seriously not a single one is good.
>>162122968
Namek saga before Captain Ginyu was actually fun.
Aside from that, just training and fighting and training and fighting.
Not too entertaining.
>>162122866
marron's existence. krillin states here that android 18 started out as a human, "dr. gero just remodeled her a bit"
...and her human organs, including her uterus, have just become immortal and forever functioning the way they initially did? i dont get it.
>>162123269
Guy
>>162123264
Assblasted much?
>>162123221
Looks like someone hasn't watched Dragon Ball and RoF.
>>162123097
>U7 powerful fighters
lol, u7 is absolutely shit in powerlevels kiddo, if goku wasnt a pioneer the most powerful in u7 would be frieeza(weaker than SJ) and buu.
>>162123219
problably in Cell's timeline dr.gero spend more time and took more material before making him.
>>162123300
>expecting actual science and shit in DB
>>162123264
>>162123259
>Let this happen.
Read the Shonen interview.
>Something unexpected and horrible happens during the tournament.
>Goku looks beat to hell, barely holds an eye open.
>Gohan out of nowhere, Goku smiles, nods, and looks determined.
>The end credits music.
>Everybody looking on with a smile EVEN Freeza.
Its possible that the entire team got knocked out or even killed by somebody.
Also
>Jiren is the big strongest.
>Implying Jiren dosent merge with Rabbit Beerus to become some ultra bullshit being.
Jiren is the strongest.
Rabberus is the fastest, put them together and you got Zamasugu electric boogaloo.
>>162123333
You have no reason to believe Jiren isn't faster than Dyspo. Retard.
>>162122703
I hate that they tried to save his ass for nothing.
Damned psycho childgod.
>>162123405
>You have no reason.
Instant transmission type moves are not the same as super sonic speed.
>>162123333
Hell this kind of make sense.
Everyone but Goku (and maybe Freeza, because of Heroes "spoilers") getting one shot at the same time and Goku barely makes it out thus looking all fucked up.
>>162123300
what makes you think Android 18 was even that old to begin with?
>>162123269
>be Kishimoto
>create an interesting universe full of usefull characters
>can't stop circlejerking about eyes and the two protagonists
>don't know how make a compeling and story which he can use the most of his universe as he can
>the last arc simply shits on whats shounen is about and the meaning of his own story.
what a hack.
>>162123097
>where were all the universe’s powerful fighters when kid buu was destroying the universe?
Beerus was asleep. Everyone else was too weak to do anything.
>nobody mentions frieza has a family before king cold shows up?
It wasn't really necessary to do so.
>some people reappear on earth after being wished back to life, some on king kai’s planet?
I have no answer for this, I don't remember whether or not this was anime-only.
>>162123303
Always assumed he diddled Lee
>>162122689
I always see people complaining about how boring it is. Even outside of /a/.
>>162118576
to be fair both of them are equally shitty
>>162116461
this
I'd rather a Gogeta fusion than another transformation for Goku, but this is DBZ...
>>162118576
People have been saying Super would be worse than GT since before it began. They've been wrong for 3 years.
>>162122888
He got some of Goku's new DNA after he self destructed on King Kai's planet. Why he didn't bother using Kaioken though is beyond me.
How did gotenks get Ss3 while trunks or goten can't do it individually. Also how can they even go super saiyan in the first place?
>>162123480
i never said 18 was old. when i said "immortal" I was referring to her human self being converted into what she is now, a being that never runs out of stamina. she entirely outclasses a regular being, thanks to her cybernetic components. what im wondering is how her organs function, and which of them were replaced with cybernetics. the way she's depicted in the show, it seems she's been powered up to absurd levels beyond human, being able to absorb hits that should crush regular human organs. what exactly makes 18's body function like a regular human to produce a baby?
>>162123655
>gogeta fusion
>just before delivering the final blow it breaks apart
meh
>>162123655
If there was ever gonna be a time for Gogeta to show up, it would have been against Zamasu. It should have been him. They basically made Vegetto work the same way.
>>162123674
oh yeh? how come he didn't get kai powers too?
that shit is retarded, he learned it because goku used it on him.
>>162123680
>What exactly makes 18's body function like a regular human to produce a baby?
Science.
>>162123698
well it at least wouldn't have required that stupid retcon.
"1 hour only fusion for mortals we forgot lul"
>>162112196
>no new episode this week
>>162123680
The fact that 18 and 17 are just normal humans with enhancements.
They fucked up in the dub when they called them Androids, in Japan they are called Cyborgs.
>>162123674
How did he get Goku's DNA? They blew up. No headcanon. People continue to forget this.
>>162112196
What will make Goku spirit bomb?
>>162123818
artificial humans
>>162123696
Fusion dance lasts 30 minutes, and currently there's only like about 32-34 minutes left in the tournament
>>162123760
Exactly right. Some will argue that it isn't a retcon; I would have just preferred seeing Gogeta because he actually is an impermanent fusion. Goku and Vegeta could have used the ROSAT together. But then we'd get "Why didn't they just use the Potara earrings to form Vegetto then with to be defused with the Super Dragon Balls." Which I might've preferred in all honesty.
>Goku makes spirit bomb
>uses Ki of U7 fighters and fucking Beerus
>absorbs it
>new form get
>>162123680
She was a normal human who was kidnapped and turned into a cyborg. Gero may have left reproductive organs in there to see what would happen if they had a child.
You don't have to ask anything more than that.
>>162123862
*5 minutes if Blue
>tfw GT could have been better if it was Goten, Trunks, and Pan. Goku and Vegeta would sometimes step in.
>>162123862
Fusion Dance lasts for 30 minutes unless your power is retarded. Even Gotenks' weak ass cut the fusion time down with SS3, what do you think Gogeta Blue or even regular SS Gogeta would do?
>>162123855
No they are not.
They were normal humans.
They were called Lapis and Lazuli.
>>162123680
They're mostly organic.
>Spirit Bomb
Vegeta isn't ever getting the new form, is he?
>>162123894
Beerus can't interfere. The same probably applies for combatants out of battle.
>>162122939
Goku didn't vaporise his upper half. It clearly gets blown apart, bits scattered.
Plus if he can survive self-destruction, I'm pretty sure he can survive a kamehameha.
>>162123940
Goten, Trunks, Bulla, Pan, Marron, and Uub.
Bring the whole squad.
>Gohan jobs to Caulifla
>Caulifla jobs to Gohan
Which would cause more butthurt?
>>162123976
He shouldn't, he should get his own new form that's unique to him like SSB2.
>>162123956
jinzo ningen is artificial human
>>162123894
Retarded on multiple levels and the idea of the spirit bomb was raped enough with the ridiculous spiritbomb sword.
>>162123174
And this should have been the first thing that came to mind considering buu was sealed in the first place.
>>162123940
>>162123999
I would've liked this, honestly.
>>162123818
ah i see, thanks. i guess i was just overthinking it as well. something always struck me as odd about it.
>>162123881
yh, i get that. im sure the writers just chose vegito simply because, (as far as ive seen) people see him as more of a fan favorite. and he hasnt been seen in years, where we've at least seen gogeta more recently.
>>162122888
Cell comes from a different timeline. Gero's Supercomputer finishes Cell. Its possible that Goku had a sample taken from him in that alt timeline after returning to Earth, as the computer would rightly calculate that he had learned some shit when he was away.
>>162124016
Cauliflafags are way more autistic. They'll flood the thread, maybe even the whole board with gohan wojacks and porn.
>>162124016
Obviously Gohan jobbing since he has a bigger fanbase.
Why does Dragon Ball Heroes have the best character concepts and stories?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E_4M-FyIB8&feature=youtu.be
>>162123976
Frankly, I would've been better if Goku kept SSG as his form and Vegeta kept SSB like Black had Rose
>>162124016
Gohan jobbing to Caulifla. If the opposite happened, it would be excusable since she just learned how to go SSJ while Gohan has a form that surpassed SSJ3 when it was introduced.
Justify the existence of Super Saiyan Blue.
>>162112196
>Goku breaks his limit by using the ki of everyone else
>Vegeta can unlock the new form easily because of this
nice
t-the gohanfigs are coming...
>>162124129
>DUDE FUSE ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE LMAO
Somehow managed to feel more like fanfiction than Super and GT.
The existence of Cell X is an abomination in itself.
>>162124211
SOON
>>162124197
Money.
Toriyama wanted to hype his new movie so it would get more sales, so he created a new form.
>>162124220
>implying where not always here
will buu appear again?
>>162124268
Maybe you should work on your English instead of spending so much time in this thread.
>>162112196
he does a genkidama but instead of throwing it he absorbs the energy into himself
>>162124242
Can he who breaks his limits defeat he who has no limits?
The answer is no. No he cannot.Get lost.
>>162124344
Fuck off Deathbattle
>>162124242
I would love it if he went SSJ3 Blue as a response to Goku's new form. Keep SSJ3's power drain and give Vegeta a good reason for using it despite its drawbacks.It would probably just end with him jobbing after draining his power while Goku saves the day.
>>162112196
I LOVE BEEERUSSAMA
amazing that jiren was revealed as a character roughly half a year ago, and we still know almost nothing about him.
>>162124465
I'll make it worse for you
>Roughly half a year ago
>Toriyama has introduced 65 new characters since then (8 participating universes - U7 - the U6 characters we already know)
>SIXTY-FIVE
>We know next to nothing about any of them
>Even avid watchers who rewatch every episode probably can't mention most of them by name
>>162124423
>Learning SSB3 without learning SS3
Also,
>J
Xenoverse was good.
Multiverse is good.
DB Heroes is good.
GT was not good, but better than Super. And had a way better premise, however bad executed.
TFS is good.
Why is Super so bad?
I want just one gag fight where Goku and Vegeta fuse into Gogeta/Vegito (I don't care which, I look them equally) as SSJ3 Blue and the fusion only lasts like ten seconds but they're so fast and strong that they still manage to fuck the enemy up or at least beat/blast them to near-death in that time.
U11 WILL LIVE
THIS IS JUSTICE
AND SO IS JIREN'S THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fzHDW7YeJQWhat if instead of Goku, Jiren wins and wishes everyone back
>>162124564
I *like them equally
>>162124550
Toriyama just doesn't have it anymore. Same with Yammamuro.
>>162124566
Can't wait for October 9th to see him beat Goku's ass. What's better is that it will be for JUSTICE
>>162124465
Hack-ira Toriyama
>>162124550
>Xenoverse
It's a fucking video game with Z's story but everyone is stronger and Broly shows up
>Multiverse
HA HA HA
>DB Heroes
Ehh
>GT
It's not better than Super, it's not better than anything, even the fucking Garlic Jr arc is better than GT
>TFS
I actually do enjoy them but they're not BETTER than Super
>>162124129
>fuse Future Trunks and Adult Gohan
>get Kid Gohan's hair
???
Jiren will ring a lot of fighters out.
Goku will break his limit and ring Jiren out.
Goku will be ringed out.
Gohan will be the last fighter from U7.
>>162124540
what a waste of character designs. The sad thing is, they all have good art and interesting fighting styles/abilities that had tons of potential.
>>162124564
I want that to happen but when they wind up a punch, they immediately split.raffs
>>162124550
Xenoverse, Heroes and TFS's DBZ are fan projects made by enthousiasts who loved the original and respect the source material.
GT was a cashgrab, but it was made relatively quicly after Z, probably involving a lot of people who worked on Z.
Super is a cashgrab that's 20 years late that Toriyama called into life because he probably needs to pay off a Yakuza debt or something but he doesn't even bother to get involved. He only "writes" vague notes that lead to mutually contradictory anime and manga continuities and force both Toyotaro and the anime staff to fill in the gaps, even if things that happen later contradict what they wrote earlier. Best example: a few episodes ago Goku going SSG (Red). We've never seen him do that before in the anime, but Goku suddenly did it like he's known how to do it all along. Why? Because this is probably the first time Toriyama explicitly mentioned that transformation in his notes since the BoG arc. And it wouldn't surprise me if this was Toyotaro's idea which became part of Toriyama's senile headcanon because he liked it.
Everything about the model/project of Super is so horribly bad, that there's literally fanfiction out there that makes more sense in the grand scheme of things.
>>162122866
What ever happened to this ability?
>>162124682
Jiren will make Goku kiero from the ring
>>162124450
Who doesn't
>>162124683
Which makes you wonder why Toriyama introduced that many characters in the first place. There were other options:
1. An ordinary tournament arc with 1-3 fighters per universe.
2. Battle royale, but with teams of 5.
But if Toriyama did the sensible thing, it means he wouldn't be able to jerk off nostalgiafags by rubbing their nostalgia in their faces with Roshi, Freeza, 17 and LE FUNNY BUU FELL ASLEEP GAG FOR THE SECOND TIME *RAUGHS*.
>>162124735
Either way, the winner of Goku x Jiren will be too tired to fight anyone else.
I also await for the first time someone on the bleachers inevitably tries to attack someone in the arena. Or the GoDs start to fight each other.
>>162124737
I hate Beerus.
>>162124683
the idol based girls are honestly the most annoying characters in the arc so far. cant wait to see them all ringed out.
So when two characters fuse do they gain each other's memories and keep them when they unfuse?
If so how come vegeta seems to not know random things about goku like the fact that he never kissed his wife?
If not then how come they don't just black out and forget everything after fusing?
Jiren is part of a special group that manages to force toei into producing quality works. Jiren has gone above and beyond by making it an hour long, he's also roped along Shida and Tate
reminder that Jiren will btfo everyone in a single swoop.
>>162124792
>Ribrianne is fat
>That's the joke
>>162124792
>Calling best girl annoying
>>162124725
Goku uses it on Krillin in Namek, I think. Or was it during the Saiyan saga? He just puts his hand on Krillin and the whole situation is explained to him.
>>162124819
He's also the first to give DBS an action oriented ending. Mostly it's been comfy stuff
>>162124770
>LE FUNNY BUU FELL ASLEEP GAG FOR THE SECOND TIME *RAUGHS*.
I don't even think that was supposed to be the joke, they just wanted to bring Frieza back AGAIN because he's more popular and earn a few MORE nostalgiabucks
>>162124837
The ToP sure has introduced us to some t h i c c ones, eh?
>>162124675
What about Taks?
>>162124786
Why anon
>>162124845
>>162124837
A joke that's been stretched for too long. They should have just been eliminated from the first episode they fought 17. Knowing Toei they'll probably recycle their transformation sequence to pad the time.
>>162117093
>>162124890
He is the WHOLE REASON U7 has to fight.
>>162124817
No. The fusion doesn't combine the characters into a single being. What the fusion does is create an amalgam of the characteristics of both characters. That's why Vegetto/Gogeta refer to themselves by their own name, and (in the case of Gogeta), as "neither Goku nor Vegeta". The fusees remember what happens during the fusion, but they don't gain insight into each other's minds. Imagine they're taken on a ride by the combined character (Vegetto/Gogeta), but can't act out on it.
>>162124857
that happened when goku arrived in namek
>>162124867
They could've had both Frieza and Buu for a team of powerhouses though. Just drop Tien, who's been doing nothing of worth. He took out one guy in a kamikaze attack, making him the least useful and probably weakest member of the team (because Roshi... IDK, nofap gave him superstrength or something).
>>162119924
yamcha, ox king and roshi were all introduced when dragon ball was still journey to the west fanfiction, the fuck are you on?
>>162124550
>Multiverse is good
Stop patting yourself on the back, Salagir. Your fanfiction is more atrocious than Absalon.
>>162124911
>defeats_a_weakened_Freeza
Fixed
>>162124974
This. They even have a new fit Buu, and I thought Japan loved him? More so than tien I assume.
>>162125021
XICOR
HALF SAIYAN
HALF GOD
XICOR!
...
Oh wait, that was AF.
I just remembered that the final sentence in AF is literally "there are no limits".
>>162125021
It can be pretty cool at times.
>>162124786
Get a load of this fucking fag
>>162124924
Oh well more Beerus for me
>>162124683
Eliminating them after 1-2 moves is retarded, only to show some gimmicks and stop.
And eliminating in hordes with some kamehameha and other blast is more retarded.
And fucking getting ooc entire teams like u11(premise is teamwork, but done bad) is thrice retarded.
Also the fucking wanking about u6 is obnoxious, this "u7 saves u6" is pretty annoying, hope that the supposed goku hidden plan involves hit cooperation at least is justified.
>>162124924
Nah that's Shin's worthless ass
>>162124974
>>162125032
I believe they wrote Boo out because he's too cheap.
>can divide himself into a ton of copies, so can't be ringed out as easily
>regenerates damage below a certain threshold
>CAN HEAL OTHERS
>can turn into smoke
>can absorb others
Boo would probably stomp 95% of the enemy fighters on his own.
When did you realize Toriyama doesn't care anymore?
how have the past 218 days since the Universe Survival Arc been for you?
>>162125140
When I saw the animation for episode 5.
>>162124974
Fuckin' GOTENKS would've been a better addition to U7's team. Hear me out: Goten and Trunks fuse and go SSJ3. Whis pulls some BS time-slowing spell on them that somehow makes their fusion last longer than 48 minutes, and they go wild, firing off Kamikaze Ghosts and other flashy shit. They provide some comedic relief since Gotenks is a goofball by nature, to offset the tone, while also allowing him to show off some flashy but effective moves. And even if Whis doesn't do something about their time limit, maybe the show could just have Goten and Trunks automatically be ringed-out as soon as they diffuse (their fusion lasts 30 minutes, and the whole ToP should last 48). Zeno would probably allow it since they think Gotenks is neat.
>>162124903
If I see Helles extend her arm one more fucking time...
>>162124911
My fuck this looks so good. Fuck Super
>>162125156
As much as Future Trunks saga redeemed DBS This arc destroyed it.
>>162125233
>Whis pulls some BS time-slowing spell on them that somehow makes their fusion last longer than 48 minutes
That would be an automatic DQ and Whis couldn't do it anyway since angels are neutral you speed watching cockshiner. Also SS3 Gotenks doesn't last for 30 minutes Mr. I Started With Super and I Am Fucking Proud of It.
>>162125156
I ended up dropping Super and watching better shows. So, pretty good.
>>162125265
>Future Trunks saga redeemed DBS
>>162125248
Stop picking on poor Helles
>>162125327
Will you come back for the hour special? For old times sake?
>>162125369
No go fuck yourself.
>>162124837
Shes a sailor moon-esqe character
thats her joke
>>162125252
its from a movie. A super EP is just not going to have such quality
>>162125392
I know, but it still makes me sad.
>>162125051
>I just remembered that the final sentence in AF is literally "there are no limits".
What are you talking about? Toyo's AF ends with Roshi dying and meeting everyone in the afterline (in the slapped together version), and Xicor breaking out of the sword (in the unfinshed version). In Jijii's it ends with Goku and Vegeta training on the Sacred world of the Kais.
I'm not defending either btw, they'r both garbage, but that never happens in AF. At least not in the two major versions of it
did Roshi rape Oolong?
>>162125292
Are you assblasted or just bored?
>>162125369
Nah, my interest in Super is gone.
>>162125431
Bored and also correcting some faggot anon
>>162125415
The original resume for AF, circa 2002 (way before Toyo drew it). I remember the ending was Goku powering up outside his house to fire a Kamehameha, and saying "there are no limits".
>>162125420
PAFU PAFU
>>162125347
I like her though, that's why I'm mad
All the other good gods are getting deleted.
And soon we will be left with an ugly Ayy, Kuriboh, Shitsune and a Fishboy.
>>162125382
>>162125448
Oh come on, give it a shot. I'll be there October 9.
>>162125386
you know what sad? the people bitching about ribrianne because they assign value with beauty for women, if she was a man everybody wouldn't care.
classic misoginy, can't deal with a joke that reflects their bigotry!
>>162124792
Rozie a qt.
>>162125503
I agree, her universe deserves to win more than Beerus and Clownman.
>>162125420
Most likely. I mean he lives in a remote island with just Roshi and Turtle. He can't stop Roshi.
>>162125527
Even more of a reason for me to avoid it like the plague
>>162125535
Lame. Not thicc enough.
>>162125420
Roshi is pure.
>>162124867
b-but anon, you have to understand, them spots are rly hard to animating...
>>162125603
He can't use the nimbus though.
>>162125420
nigger puff puff is dragon quest meme forever. Its rubbing boobies on his face.
>>162125571
Don't worry anon I'm not watching it too, but Jiren actually moves and now this suddenly tensionless arc has gotten a little pint of tension. I'm only giving them one shot on this episode solely because they're pooling in their best animators.
>>162125233
>Whis pulls some BS time-slowing spell on them that somehow makes their fusion last longer than 48 minutes
He can't. He's a neutral entity and shenanigans like that is grounds for instant disqualification. That pretty much renders the rest of your post moot.
Was the One Piece crossover canon?
>>162125754
Yesheadcanon
>>162125527
Sorry anon but I stopped watching it so long ago that I don't even know anything about the new characters. And not a single one of them made me interested enough to catch up or to watch this special.
Wait is Cale gay for her onee-san?
>>162122626
How can one chosen successor be so based?
New episode today or next week?
>>162125896
Next week.
Today is a special on Glorious Japanese History
>>162122626
>Complete Asspull SSB
>apparently I have healing powers
>Katchin blocks
>apparently I have Hakai powers and can beat up someone who beat me up before we fused
>retarded nonsensical infinite Merged Zamasu clones
>Trunks has literally no reaction to his entire timeline being nuked other than to shrug and say "Shucks, guess it can't be helped LOL"
>based
>>162125949
>Ripping off Janemba
>>162125754
thinking emoji
>>162125995
>Ripping off the Metal Cooler scene
>>162126019
Earth looks like something out of Futurama there.
>>162126042
>ripping off bio broccoli
>>162126086
The manga is shit
>>162125995
Janemba is a pre BoG movie which is not canon.
>>162126042
homage.
>>162126108
>there are retards who actually use the homage meme as a fucking argument
Goddamn
>>162126099
That's not a secret. I read it to shitpost about how bad the anime is. Toeishill salt. Delicious.
>>162126139
how can the same company rip off themselves?
>>162126142
>he wastes his time reading something he doesn't enjoy so he can shit on something he watches that he also doesn't enjoy
Look at this no-lifer
>>162126172
Are you fucking stupid? Toyo drew the manga, Toei made the Metal Cooler movie. Toyocucks are goddamn retarded
So this is the cesspool that the Gohanfags came from
I want Vegeta to get rekt by Frost next episode just to see Vegetafags cry
>>162125949
Everything you named is a million times better than the trash we got in the anime.
>>162126222
Nice ad, loser.
>>162126222
gohan gets taken over by cell and that resulted in the ultimate fusion godel was formed his end will be coming soon but another adventure await gohan as he is thrown 300 years into the future where he must face cell one last time.
>>162126222
I want you to die just for showing me this shit
>>162126214
And Toei works for Shueisha.
>>162126260
>the anime is worse so it's okay for the manga to be utter shit
It's funny how this is the only argument you Toyoniggers can ever come up with.
>>162126108
>Broly is non-canon so Kale is a completely original character.
Toyocucks, everyone.
>>162126268
>>162126287
Guess I hit some nerves.
>>162126222
lmao pathetic
>>162125995
In the anime he did the portal too except the only thing we got from it was zamasu clones. Which was even worse than the manga.
>>162126322
Manga isn't shit, that's just your trash opinion.
Trunks also cared about his world, there's literally a whole bonus chapter in Saikyo JUMP that goes further into detail as to why he departed the comfy timeline for it.
>>162126382
not what i said
>>162126511
We don't talk about the asspull scythe or shadow clone around these parts.
>>162126677
Manga is shit, Toyocuck, and only delusional fanboys sing its praises. Like it all you want, but don't pretend it's a flawless masterpiece. Super is a shitty, bad story. There's no saving it.
>captcha: Pedro Sale
>>162126793
Better than the shitanime.
>>162126724
what the actual fuck was the purpose of that scythe anyway? seriously, he cut a big scary hole in the sky, the scythe disappeared forever, and none of it was ever elaborated on or explained.
>>162126793
No one said it's perfect you cuck.
>>162126893
Stall as much time to milk the arc and stretch out the Plot Outline.
This episode just happened to be the C tier writer's episode.
I'm so glad the director got canned AGAIN after this arc. (First Series Director got fired after the atrocious U6 arc)
>>162126793
manga > anime. Deal with it juan
>>162126853
>only argument is "the anime is worse"
It's truly sad when someone is so defeated they have to resort to such a flimsy counter.
>>162126903
>no one said it's perfect
Peruse the archives and look for a criticism of the manga. Particularly a well-thought out criticism, not just "HURR DURR TOYOTRACERKEK". Notice the amount of rabid mangafags that appear and begin performing incredible mental gymnastics and spouting headcanon to defend their "perfect" manga.
>>162126959
Yes, you are correct. That doesn't stop the manga from also being shit. Bragging that your turd smells a little better than someone else's isn't exactly something to be proud of.
>>162127003
gt cucks, everyone!