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There's not a single good thing about this studio.
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Animation and quality control is top tier, no creativity at all though.
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Their animation is some of the best youll find on TV. I hate the studio, but even I have to give them 90/100+ on animation every time I score one of their shows. So saying that they have nothing to offer is retarded. Their writing and audio direction are absolute bin tier, though. At least for 80% of the shit they made.

Your picture also isnt accurate at all. Its the subtle details that make those characters look different. That doesnt look like Yui at all, for example.
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Mirai and Rikka are cute.
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>studio wars thread

Yes OP, what a great idea!
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>>162082782
Good animation and cute girls
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>high quality backgrounds
>nice colour palettes
>good animation
>consistent quality, their does not go to shit towards the end
Seriously, I know that you're just looking for replies, but KyoAni isn't as shit as you think it is.
I am still aghast by the fact that they did two fucking seasons of Free, for fuck's sake. They're incredibly good at PR.
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>>162082904
>>162083006
This is the thing about Kyoani, the shows are well made, they are pretty to look at and etc, but it's all very play safe and won't stimulate you beyond a superficial level.
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>>162083192
There's a tone shift in recent years, don't tell me you don't notice Hibike and Violet Evergarden.
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>>162083272
Haven't watched Evergarden yet, but how Euphorium isn't play safe or doesn't carry most of the things Kyoani is known for?
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They're the only studio that pays their animators a living wage.
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>>162083152
>Free
They also have two fucking movies of it now. One's a recap, but the other one is original.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRWnpblbqk
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>>162083384
I didn't say it was a big tone shift, just that there is one.
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>>162083152
To be fair, Free S2 was genuinely better.
Though I don't understand why they make Free look so terrible.
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>>162082782
I hate the Studio, but the animation is really good. The backrounds too although I'm not a fan of the "over realism".
But most shit they produce story wise is utterly [garbage]
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>>162083272
>There's a tone shift in recent years, don't tell me you don't notice Hibike
I wish I hadnt. That is exactly what I was referring to when I said shitty writing and audio direction. That show was a goddamn mess.
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>>162083938
I wouldn't even say it's garbage, it's just mediocre as fuck.
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As expected from anti-KinoAni buffoons,
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OP = faggot
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>>162085201
>Comedy anime about school girls
>Comedy anime about school girls
>Generic drama with a otaku self insert set on school
>Boring school romance
>Anime about highschool girls fucking around on a club
>Anime about otaku self insert having supernatural beings around him, also set on school
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>>162085576
Problem, faggot?
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>>162085843
I'm just stunned by the wide range of genres and settings they make
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>>162085948
If I want to see old people on TV, I'll watch Twin Peaks: The Return.
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>>162085948
Are you going to watch VEG?
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>>162082782
You make a compelling argument, FagOP, but the thing is, that's obviously tamako's face and it doesn't really fit the others.
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>>162083192
>wont stimulate beyound superficial level
Nigga, watch K-On from start to finish. I have never cried as much with Episode 20 of the second season, the finale for the second season or the movie.
I cried my eyes out 3 times in this single anime when no other piece of media had ever made me cry.
so fuck you.
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>>162086040
I didn't complained about them being young though.
>>162086115
I also didn't said K-ON was bad.
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What's Kyoani's end game?
Is all these boring SOL garbage just training for when they decide to animate the next big Urobuchi?
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>>162086304
So smug
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>>162083152
>high quality backgrounds
You mean the blurry photos with faux DoF or the ones that are CG?
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>>162086115
faggot
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>>162088041
No.
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I LIKE KYOANI AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!
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>>162082782
>what is haruhi
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>>162089337
shit
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Kyoani is a sad case because their animation is beautiful, but their artstyle, character design, settings, and stories are really boring. How do I say this... It feels like I really should enjoy anime from them, but I don't.
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wow who know [character] looks different with differing haircuts
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I don't mind the sameface if it's supported by consistent quality, feel the same way about Ghibli.

Their material is hit and miss though.
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>>162083192
They stimulate my dick and that's all that matters. If I wanted a mind fuck or philosophy I'd read a book.
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>>162086115
K-On is nothing to cry about. I would have believed you if you said Clannad.
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>>162091734
your dick doesn't matter
its not even real, its just an illusion created by the vibrating sea of inseperable energy that is our universe
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>>162086304
This gif was what made me pick the series up
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The SHAFTniggers are out in full force today. Are you guys excited for their next Powerpoint presentation?
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>>162092051
Not him, but I think K-ON is more emotional than Clannad honestly.
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Euphonium has the best writing of any of their shows, purely because it's an adaptation of a work by a competent author
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>>162092450
On what universe? So much fucking melodrama and MISUNDERSTANDINGS even if I liked it overall. Like the first half of Season 2 was spent focusing on characters I couldn't remotely give a shit about.

K-On, despite its fairly average source material, is the best-written thanks to its character dynamics. Sasuga Yamada.
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There's no studio with better quality control than Kyoani
You can always pin point the episode where other studios ran out of budget or time
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>>162085576
>otaku self-insert
That's not the vibe I got from kyon-kun at all, did I watch it wrong?
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>>162092584
And you can always pinpoint when kyoanal didnt bother to hire a decent writer: since the first minute of the first episode
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>>162082782
>There's not a single good thing about this studio.

I thought the same thing, then I went and read the Haruhi novels. Boy, they were such trash; absolutely awful pieces of literary works. They were a horrendous read, didn't make sense and had endlessly repeating themes. I mean, if everyone loved the Haruhi anime, and the movie that accompanied it, why doesn't anyone discuss the novels? Then I found out first hand why. Kyoani isn't an amazing studio or even the greatest, but they are the best at adapting source material, closely followed by SHAFT.

Kyoani thus sticks to their strengths which is adaptations. Their adaptations are stellar; no forced NTR, no alternate scenarios, no sudden drama, no side character deaths etc. Kyoani is just really damn good at enhancing adaptions. I actually just got back from shitting a torrent of fury in an other thread where the anime adaptation went to shit by doing the above. If an anime is going to spend time building up its theme and characters, then the last thing you want is to have all that trust and invested interest up rooted by doing something out of left field.

I understand Japanese people in their culture love TWEESTS and sudden, dumb bullshit but that simply ruins stories, it doesn't necessarily enhance them.
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2nd season when?
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>>162092734
After Eupho S2 they could fuck anything up. I'm not willing to wish for it anymore.
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>>162092051
Clannad was sad because of its own story. K-On was sad because there were some themes that people could relate to from real life.

The whole theme about high school being almost over, making the most of your time with your friends, and having to move on in life and say goodbye to them is something that most people could empathize with. That's what made their final concert together and their song to Azusa pretty sad.
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>>162092797
>K-On was sad because

The girls were retarded and you felt empathy towards their idiocy.
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>>162092906
Oh and I bet you think ancient vampire loli and Redditgahara are such better characters, don't you?

Saging this /v/-tier thread by the way.
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>>162092796
What did they do to Eupho S2?
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>>162092663
they're getting there, Violet will be anime of the decade Mr. hater
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>>162092935
making the girl too hot but not enough hentai to fap and pissing off yurifags
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>>162092639
I'm skeptical about any character that gets a harem and tons of fun with a ''why bother'' and ''i'm too lazy to care'' attitude.
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>>162092935
/u/fag on her period, ignore her
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>>162092051
Clannad has nothing on K-ON!. It was ruined by the ending. It was also generally overwrought and annoying whenever most of the so-called sad scenes happened. The best elements of Clannad are Tomoya living an adult life, dealing with being a parent, and dealing with his father.
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This will be Kyoani final claim as the best anime studio and nothing you haters can do about it
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>>162083938
>an art style is only different if it's wildly different
This meme needs to die.
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>>162093086
You're thinking of After Story.
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>>162085576
>reductionistic nonsense
What amazing criticism.
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>>162092935
Brought all the shit characters to the forefront.
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>>162093153
I'm thinking of the whole show. Outside of directly comparing the two seasons, separating them is pointless to me.
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>>162092906
>behaves like fictional characters tend to do
>retarded
Why don't you just read nonfiction?
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>>162085948
A studio shouldn't look out to be a Jack of all trades but a master of none
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>>162082782
bottom face looks nothing like chitanda

hint: different character designer
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>>162085576
>Comedy anime about school girls
And what's wrong with that, exactly?
>Comedy anime about school girls
And what's wrong with that, exactly?
>Generic drama with a otaku self insert set on school
Name three dramas that are exactly like it. Also, putting aside how bullshit it is to criticize a character as a self-insert, how is Oreki a self-insert for the dreaded otaku?
>Boring school romance
Nice ADHD.
>Anime about highschool girls fucking around on a club
And what's wrong with that, exactly?
>Anime about otaku self insert having supernatural beings around him, also set on school
Putting aside how bullshit it is to criticize a character as a self-insert, how is Kyon a self-insert for the dreaded otaku? Also, what's inherently bad about its setting or there being supernatural beings around him?
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>>162082782
>memecenter.com
This doesn't work at all. That looks nothing like Yui and that looks nothing like Chitanda.
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KyoAni does good comedies. Their dramas are real shit tier though. The shows like K-on and Haruhi that to the line are watchable, but ultimately boring. They should stick to stuff like Maid Dragon, Lucky Star and Nichijou (especially since those shows aren't riddled with boring CGI backgrounds and rainbow vomit color pallettes).
I wouldn't say any of their stuff deserves the lavish praise you faggot seem to give it though.
Also, they couldn't pick a decent source material to save their lives.
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>>162093491
*toe the line
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>>162093491
Are you seriously implying that Lucky Star and Maidragon have more subdued color palettes than K-On?
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>>162093491
calling maid dragon a comedy is a bit of a stretch
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>>162082782
They're a victim of retards who think overgeneralizations count as criticisms and who can't tell artstyles apart. They make fine shows.
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>>162093491
>KyoAni does good comedies.
>comedies
Did you mean SoL?
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>>162092734
waiting patiently alongside you anon...

not sure if the LN source material really has enough at this point.
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>>162093025
I'm a /u/fag and I've specifically been avoiding euphonium because I heard that s2 pisses off /u/fags
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>>162093644
No, I mean comedy (ie shows whose main focus is on telling jokes, as opposed to drama). Get off MAL every now and then.
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>>162093710
How precious.
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>>162093755
The only thing resembling comedy that KyoAni has ever made is Nichijou. You have the sense of humor of a toddler.
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>>162093558
>Are you seriously implying that Lucky Star and Maidragon have more subdued color palettes than K-On?
Not necessarily K-on. I was thinking of Tamako, Hyouka and the Key trash, where every scene had every color of the rainbow in it.
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>>162093755
but jokes arn't the main focus of maid dragon?
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>>162093764
Thank you
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>>162092991
>>162093025

Oh, I still want Hyouka 2nd still then.

>>162093693
I don't even know what the LN status is, it's extremely unpopular from what I know, but I think there were 5 books and they adapted 4.

I'm probably wrong though.
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>>162082782
KYO well-polished-turds ANI
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>>162093826
You're delusional. What you're referring to as "SoL" shows are literally just a genre of comedy.
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>>162083938
PA>JC>KYO>SHAFT>A-1
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>>162093890
i'm not even the same dude
also, you can be an ignorant dumbass if you want, but the Shakespearean classification has essentially zero utility in real life.
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>>162093980
Keep telling yourself that brainlet.
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It churns out so many shows that this graph applies to that the graph just applies to them in general. Same with Shaft.
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>>162094028
>ad hominem non-argument

at least have the balls to walk away like an adult when you realize you're wrong
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The studio work culture is among the best in the industry; their projects don't have absurdly rushed production schedules and they cultivate their own in-house talent. They have a lot of positives going for them, more than most other studios.
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>>162093855
No you're right, there was a 6th came out last year though, only translated recently. Probably years until the next one.

Are the LN's really unpopular? As in sales wise or fan reaction? How the hell did Hyōka of all things get a live action adaptation? too many questions
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>>162094134
All works of literature can be parsed either fully or partially into drama or comedy. KyoAni doesn't work drama well at all, so when their shows venture into that territory, they become tedious and childish.
On the other hand, they are excellent at visual gags, which is where Nichijou and Maiddragon excelled. I don't really know why you can't understand such simple classifications. Maybe take a literature class. Most community colleges offer them at very affordable rates.
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>>162094186
The anime is very popular, at least. There have been several polls in the past that demonstrated that plenty of Japanese people want another season over most other KyoAni shows.
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koe no katachi was really good and k-on is only as good as it is because of kyoani's animation and additional writing for it, absolute bait thread
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>>162085201
wait, I though Haruhi is a filthy eroge VN?
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Why does everyone pretend Hyouka doesn't exist
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>>162094412
It's boring as shit.
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>>162094231
similarly, you can categorize all cells as prokaryotic and eukaryotic, but that's not very useful when you just care if they're pathogenic or not. I don't really know why you can't understand that extremely broad based classifications are useless in the vast majority of situations. Maybe take a statistics class. Most community colleges offer them at very affordable rates.
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>>162094412
It's so boring you forget it exists
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>>162094398
Lurk two years before posting. >inb4myimageshowsimjustpretending
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>162094475
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>>162094412
It's slightly slow so ADHD children find it boring and those that have the capacity to pay attention might not appreciate or get it. People also like to contrive intentions for it and act like it's bad because of them.
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>>162094493
>false equivalency
I do care, and I'm the one you responded to. I never said that those weren't SoL shows. Your strawman argument is missing the point I'm trying to make you fucking nigger.
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>>162094493
Not that anon, but if you think comedy and drama are "useless classifications" you're a fucking moron.
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>>162094568
It's the slower pacing that makes it great, especially from a character development perspective. It would have little effect or point really if Oreki changed his outlook in like 3 episodes or whatever.

>People also like to contrive intentions for it and act like it's bad because of them

What do you mean by this?
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>>162094879
Don't get me wrong, I love it.
>What do you mean by this?
People like to act like it's trying to be super deep or claiming it's pretentious in general when it's not.
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>>162094186
I only heard about it, but it always seemed like it, the LN isn't really "anime" like other populars LN, the covers are just normal book covers and I don't think there's much marketing for it, I wouldn't be surprised if it really is unpopular.

I don't think most people even knew about it before KyoAni picked it.

>>162094281
Well, Chitanda is pretty memeable.
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>>162094974
Ah I see, yeah I've seen shitheads on /a/ try and claim this before, only to go unsubstantiated as expected. Here's hoping for s2 (though it seem a longshot)
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>>162094666
can't decide whether to be a pretentious fuckwad or a petulant child huh?

so you initial point was an unsubstantiated claim that they make bad dramas, and their comedies, maid dragon, lucky star, and nichijou in this case are better, with the only reason provided that they didn't have rainbow color palettes.

Solid point, I especially like how your only provided reasoning is not even true, you might check out those shows you listed again, nichijou and maid dragon both make use of washed out colors, but they the colors they use come from across the spectrum, something you can relate to, I'm sure, and lucky star is more saturated and has a somewhat more narrow palette than the previous shows, but compared to something like disappearance it's positively technicolor.
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>>162095009
>I only heard about it, but it always seemed like it, the LN isn't really "anime" like other populars LN, the covers are just normal book covers and I don't think there's much marketing for it

Which I think nicely rebuts this bait thread. Hyouka, Haruhi etc shows how good KyoAni is at adapting things that would to anyone else seem unthinkable, and then doing a fine job of it on top of that.
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>>162085576
how the fuck is oreki even close to being a self-insert character, just because he's not a chad doesnt make him a weeb neet loser
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>>162094666
I'm not saying that they're useless all of the time, but they certainly are in this case, the only justification provided for the other dudes point was that nichijou, maid dragon, and lucky star had less vibrant color palettes than the dramas, which is not really a useful division to make, there are a few with very vibrant palettes, tamako for example, but there are also others with very subdued palettes, see dissaperance.

basically, what I was trying to say is that it's not a useful way to categorize the shows for the point they were trying to make
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>>162095438
Exactly anon, how is he an otaku either? I would suspect that guy didn't even watch the show
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>>162095101
>unsubstantiated claim
It's literally just my opinion. Take it or leave it.
I'm not even going to get into the color shit with you at this point, we're well into the genre argument now.. If you think the overused CGI filters and rainbow lens flares of trash like Disappearance are "subtle," then you're probably going blind. Go see an optometrist.

My point is that I enjoy KyoAni's shows when they are lighthearted and comedic, and not when they have stupid cliche melodrama.
Let me just use K-on for example. I enjoy the scenes of the girls sitting around and laughing together, making jokes, and acting cute (ie the comedic[!] ones). I think the scenes of Azusa whining like a bitch and the girls writing a song for her (ie the dramatic[!] ones) are childish, trite, and have no value whatsoever.
The shows that focus more on comedy tend to be more enjoyable in my opinion, because the shitty sources KyoAni adapts are exclusively written by otaku pandering hacks who have no idea how to carry serious drama. I'm also done talking to you, since you're clearly a delusional fanboy anyways.
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>>162094568
It's such a light heart show. I think you are right on the sense that people want to see things that are never going to be there. If you don't like the mysteries or you are lazy to try to deduct them and don't like the show because of this you are probably watching it wrong.

Also fuck me if this doesn't have the best set of friend characters I have ever seen.
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>>162095486
That wasn't "evidence" to my point about their comedies being better. It just so happens that I prefer the hand drawn style of those shows to the heavy use of CGI in their other works. It was more of an aside that you've focused on. Hence why it was parenthesized. Learn to read nigger.
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>>162092734
hopefully fucking never
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>>162095550
>just my opinion man
you made a statement with no evidence and then accused me of missing the point, how do you hit something that's not there?

can you even read? the way you made your point made the color thing and the genre thing inherently linked. also with a few exceptions, which are obviously there to accentuate what's going on, most of screen in disappearance is always blue.

>finally makes a coherent point
congrats, if you had just done this in the beginning instead of talking out of your ass about color we could have avoided most of that.

In a way, I agree with you, I think the thing that really makes kyoani show's and movies is those small character moments; it's in those moments that the characters earn the dramatic payoff, and I think kyoani does it better than most others, in their good stuff anyway.
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>>162093122
>durr durr changing hair and eye is a different art style
This meme needs to die
Why does A1 gets shat on for having suspicioulsy similar looking MCs and characters while KyoAni does'nt?
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>>162097011
Kyoani does get shat on, you're doing it right now.
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>>162097027
Not as much as A1
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>>162097011
>durr durr characters making similar faces means they're the exact same art style
People who say that about A-1 are also fucking idiots. Studios shouldn't have to cater to brainlets who can't tell shows apart and whose metric for art style is just where things are on a face. There's also coloring, shading, proportions, width, and a bunch of other shit too.
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>>162083938
I think they did Amagi pretty well.
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>>162092051
>Clannad
kys
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>>162082782
That looks nothing like Yui though
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>>162082782
>Memecenter
I'm not surprised.
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>>162086304
My tail can only get so hard!
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Don't bully Kyoani they are the cutest and the best
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>>162088333
I can write my congressman.
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its been 7 years since dissapearence and even thoug i know i will never get season 3 im still hoping for an announcement.
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>>162092450
>it's an adaptation of a work by a competent author
Says an Anon who's never read the novels.
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>>162092509
>so much fucking melodrama and MISUNDERSTANDINGS
So what?
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>>162083938
>But most shit they produce story wise is utterly [garbage]
That makes no sense. Most of those are adaptations. Not anime originals.
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>>162086304
hat.swf
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>Elder-God-Tier:
K-ON!
>God-Tier:
Haruhi
Hyouka
>Great-Tier:
Amagi Brilliant Park
Lucky Star
>Good-Tier:
Clannad
Chuunibyou
Dragon Maid
Sound! Euphonium
Nichijou
On-Hold-Tier:
Free!
Tamako Market
>Haven't-Watched-Tier:
Air
Full Metal Panic! Second Raid
Kanon (2006)
Kyoukai no Kanata
>Dropped-Tier:
Phantom World
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>>162082782
At least they're not pretentious fucks like triggerniggers
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>>162083938
Kyo>>SHAFT>A1>JCS>>PA
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>>162088041
This is a stupid meme.
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>>162092935
In S2 they adapted two novels into one season, whereas S1 was one novel and original content. So it was a mess narratively and two key characters in the first arc didn't get proper characterization.
Also the drama just wasn't as good as the first season but that's on the material.
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>>162104063
Bones > all of them
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>>162105630
What am I looking at?
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>>162105663
Me and my sensei
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>>162104063
Xebec=Artland>IG>80s-90s Sunrise>*insert the shit you listed for all I care>[all other shit]>Gonzo>modern Sunrise
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>>162105738
early-mid 90's Gainax>Xebec=Artland>IG>80s-90s Sunrise>*insert the shit you listed for all I care>[all other shit]>Gonzo>modern Sunrise

No one can even argue with this
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>>162082782
That looks nothing like Yui, what the hell?
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>>162082782
They made Fumoffu, that's about it.
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Why can't Kyoani into writing an engaging story?
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>>162105843
Because it's Kyoto Animation not Kyoto Writing
Fuck off
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>>162082782
How does it feel to know you'll never be good enough for Mugi-chan, OP?
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>>162105838
That was inferior to Nichijou.
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>>162105843
Tamako Love Story
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>>162083938
There's a reason why Maid Dragon isn't included in this chart, mainly because it's shit but also because it would destroy the comparison on monolith style. Even studios like PA have only slight variation and Uchouten is the deal breaker. That being said, I don't understand why people consider a studio having an iconic style a bad thing. I enjoy immensely the fact I can recognize a studio based on their designs, if anything I think it's a merit.
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>>162106432
And yeah, also Nichijou and Lucky Star etc.
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I'm awaiting the moment this thread inevitably turns into Kyoani vs Shaft for some reason.
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>>162083192
>and won't stimulate you beyond a superficial level.
Thankfully, that's all I'm really looking for. I leave the tryhard "3 deep 5 me" stuff for the edgy kiddos who think anyone's impressed by the fact that they watch it. Something for everyone, right?

I want to see cute girls doing cute things, with lots of fun and hijinx, and everything nicely wrapped up into a happy ending. No one delivers this crap like Kyoto Animation.
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>>162106621
>Dogakobo
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>>162083384
>Haven't watched Evergarden yet
No one has, since it's scheduled to air in January next year.
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Fuck off retard, nobody cares as long as there are good manga adaptations. Reminder that K-on reigns supreme and you can't do fucking shit about it
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>>162106432
mainly because this chart was made before maid dragon fuckface

and of course they took faces for kyoani that look alike with the same expression
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>>162086304
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>>162097784
yeah they did, probably my favorite Kyo-Ani but then again, I dont like the rest
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>>162101391
Still shit tho
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>>162107984
How so?
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>>162107960
>probably my favorite Kyo-Ani
What the fuck? Out of all the possibilities you chose a mediocre series that was only good for waifus and occasional comedy tidbits.
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>>162108056
It's the only recent Kyoani anime with a good story.
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>>162108015
>cute girls doing cute things in school

Kyo-Ani summarized
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>>162108222
Maid Dragon was not bad
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>>162108227
Not even 20% of what they've done.
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>>162105843
Because you can't get over your ADHD
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>>162108316
> inb4 muh myanimelist
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/2/Kyoto_Animation

thats more than 20% anon-kun
also the most popular things they do is
>cute girls doing cute thing in school
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>>162108636
K-On, Lucky Star, and Nichijou are only 3 shows and less than 20%, dumb MALtard
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>>162108222
>a good story
But it was shit? Even Maid Dragon has more impressive story.
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>>162083141
chuckled a bit
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>>162109069
Elaborate
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>>162108780
>I'l just pretend like I was baiting all along, that will get anon off my case.
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>>162109120
The story is just an excuse to showcase largely irrelevant comedy scenarios, and features painfully obvious outcome. Reconsidering this Maid Dragon is somewhat similar and nothing I'd place on pedestal, but as far as bare bones plot goes Amagi is kind of dull.
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>plotfags
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>>162109152

what the actual fuck
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>>162109275
You know it is true.
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>>162092935
No Yamada
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>>162109152
I'm not sure you understood what the anon was saying.
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>>162109229
Is plotfag a term nowadays? Is wanting the story to have something meaningful a negative thing?
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>>162108222
Amagi's story was as barebones and straightforward as it gets. Why are storyfags so boring? Even Hibike S1 did its story better.
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>>162109405
>Giving a shit about a fishposter
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>>162109442
Its a jab at people who claim SoL settings have "nothing happening".
"Meaningful" in itself is highly subjective. For example, I found Tamako Market much more meaningful than stuff like NGE, TTGL, or even Aria. Not saying it DOES have more meaning, but it's messages and themes are more align with my own values and as a result, resonate with me much more.
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>>162106103

But nobody is good enough for Mugi-chan.
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>>162109658
What even was the 'message' of Tamako Market? Something about family maybe? Everybody loves somebody? Mochi is delicious?

I thought Tamako Market was easily above average when it comes to SoL, until they threw in that Prince arc in the last 3 episodes. I haven't seen Love Story yet, so maybe it ties into that, but if it doesn't; holy shit what a fumble of an ending.
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>>162113350
Its about leaving your bubble, about going out of your comfort zone.

Tamako is very easily accepting of things coming in (Dera and the islanders and the glasses girl) and can easily say goodbye as they leave, but a resident of the market she grew up with leaving, or the market itself closing? She literally has a panic attack and gets frustrated when people suggest she herself may leave one day. When big changes inevitably come to her (adolescence) she shuts herself away but by the end of the series in Tamako Love Story, she becomes her own driver of change and even confesses to Mochi OUTSIDE of the market.

Of course, its not the only theme present in the series. There's also love of community and "Everybody loves somebody" and of course, coming of age themes.
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>>162083938
Who cares when they made Maid Dragon.

I care because they won't make merch for Maid Dragon.
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>>162113912
also lesbians aren't real, it's just adolescence
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>>162083938
A1 is literally Kyoani tier
sameface shit everytime
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>>162113912
I guess I need to watch Love Story to get all of that, but I think most of it got through from the first 8-9 episodes. I feel like they added in that Prince arc for kids or retards who STILL didn't get the vibe of the series by episode 9.

Like, everything before that point was handled so well. Everything you mention regarding growing up in a bubble and how it can be both a stabilizing force, but also a source of anxiety when confronted with having to actually step out of said bubble; It all came through even though there was no real 'plot' beyond your typical SoL situations and Dela antics. Thats why the "oh noes the prince needs a bride" shit was so frustrating for me. All the 'conflict' was right there. There was no need for Tamako to spend 2 episodes worrying about the prince when anybody who was watching knew she would never up and leave for some random fag.

But thats just my personal nitpick because the rest of the writing was so well done. That part where she is confused as to why the people who raised her seem so eager for her to move on with her life is one of my favorites. She doesn't have some screaming fit about it to make it seem 'serious' or anything, shes just genuinely confused like the average kid in her shoes would be. The audience can read whats going on, but shes too young to understand. Thats how good drama should be woven into SoL. Mostly through the subtext.
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But I like this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9wualcJuE4
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>>162093301
Kyoani is a master of one.
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>>162083938
>what is cherry picking?
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>>162115723
The market itself is Tamako's bubble, and Dera coming in and helping solve her problems is, in my opinion, a message on how interacting with others outside of your bubble can help solve problems and form new connections (he frequently gives Tamako and co. advice and brings in Choi and glasses girl) but getting out of your bubble is something YOU must do, which is why I think Dera wasn't in the movie.

The theme also shows up in Midori accepting her newfound ADOLESCENT feelings and Kanna getting over her fear of heights.
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KyoAni is cute
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>>162119082
Who keeps doing these shitty things?
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>>162119082
Kyoani characters might be cute but I don't believe the actual studio is very cute.
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>>162120081
Well yeah, buildings usually aren't cute.
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>>162120081
they're a bunch of cute old ladies
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>>162120418
Why is there no cute old ladies doing cute things anime?
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>>162086304
hyouka had so many waifus
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>>162120547
>waifus
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