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What happened to elves? They used to be good.

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What happened to elves? They used to be good.
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The cock happened.
They never recovered.
no one ever does
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>>162075721
Instead of people viewing them as forest elves they became cock sleeves
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What happened to noses? They used to be good.
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>>162075721
>used
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>>162075721
Sex sells more than world building and actual narrative.
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They got better.
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>>162076592
That is even worse.
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>>162076633
Worse for their waistline, but better for the dick.
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>>162075721
They got better.
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>>162075721
>They used to be good
You posted the only elves of japanese orrigin that were ever good. Yeah yeah, someone will post some single character, someones waifu or the last porn he masturbated as an attempt to prove me wrong. But Deedlit was the first and only legitimate good "elf" simply as an elf, as a fantasy creature. They made some other good elf characters, but they were only good as characters, rarely as an elf.
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>>162076851
>but they were only good as characters
>rarely as an elf

What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
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>what happened to elves?
Catgirls
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>>162077200
Yeah, sorry, I have a bit trouble explaining this well. What I mean is that the race elf in RoLW, presented through Deedlit, was good. Deedlit was a good elf. You get other characters that are good, and elves, but these characters would also be good if they wouldn't be elves.

If you take the being-an-elf from Deedlit, she would lose something that makes her Deedlit and that makes her a good character. If you cut out being-an-elf from some random isekai slut with pointy ears the isekai slut would probably not change at all.
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>>162075721
Oversaturation, once people stop trying to make elves meaningfully fit into the setting and just start throwing them in there for fetish fuel it was a downhill ride.

Every now and again you'll get a good elf race like the Abh
>>162076633
God dammit I love you anon.
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>>162078144
>once people stop trying to make elves meaningfully fit into the setting
That's probably what I tried to say with >>162076851 That Deedlit is an elf has actual meaning to her character, to the setting she's in and to the story.
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Deedlit in the manga has a very different look than in the anime though. She has a larger rounded nose and looks like she weighs <80 lbs, if that
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>>162078429
Neither the anime, or the manga are the source material. Record of Lodoss War is based on a VN/LN.
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>>162078652
Actually it's an LN. The VN came after. The LN covers the plot of the original anime and its sequels.
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>>162075721
>They're used goods
Fix'd for you.
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>They used to be good

Elves were never good
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>>162075721
>They used to be good
Now they're used goods
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>>162078144
Best not-elf right here. Deedlit and Pirotese share close second place. Marsille is third.
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>>162075721
They became just pointy-eared people instead of magical, unearthly creatures.
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>>162075721
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Pornfags have arrived, RIP any resemblance of a reasonable discussion.
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>>162078916
find it kind of funny how at no point in the books Tolkien say that elves have pointed ears
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Orc semen does that to someone.
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>>162079108
I'm saddened pirotess fags didn't start slinging shit at deedlit before the doujin discussion
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>>162079009
I would like to know more.
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>>162078916
>They became just pointy-eared people instead of magical, unearthly creatures.

To be fair, Deedlit was originally just a D&D elf in a homebrew setting.
But she had to be well defined back then because you couldn't just say "she's a D&D elf" and expect the average Japanese person to understand in the 1980s.
This led to her being an archetype, which then got endlessly referenced and watered down until today's nth generation copies, where elf ears are just like another costume or hairstyle or annoying speech quirk - shorthand placeholders for doing actual work developing a character.
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>>162078271
It's just a culture that not only the Japanese but a lot of people live in right now. They want a story that's easy to get into and picking familiar tropes and running with them is easy as it gets. It just reminds me that we'll never get a proper dwarf in Japanese fiction cuz they can't even decide if dwarves are supposed to be lolis or not
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>>162075721
>pompous tree fuckers
>ever good
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>>162075721
>muh NTR/rape fetish
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https://e-hentai.org/?f_doujinshi=on&f_manga=on&f_search=elf+-rape+-netorare+-mindbreak+-tentacles+-orc+-cheating+-mind_break&f_apply=Apply+Filter

You're welcome.
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>>162080335
>just reminds me that we'll never get a proper dwarf in Japanese fiction cuz they can't even decide if dwarves are supposed to be lolis or not
They few times they play them straight they are actually quite good, just don't expect any deep worldbuilding.
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>>162081424
Whoops, that was for >>162080615
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>>162080615
I think its the LN market that is just working too well. Terrible writers shitting out canned material repacked with a single novel idea. If it takes off they instantly return the the same shit youve already read/seen a million times to milk it as hard as possible.
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>>162081355
Top 3 are inflation vore, zelda and prostitution
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>>162075721
It was just a fad. Same as with vampires, and now, zombies.
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>>162075721
“Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
No one ever said elves are nice.
Elves are bad.”
― Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies
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>>162086194
Elves also live a long time. Unlike Terry.
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The became american and are hard to distinguish.
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>>162086263
Hey anon. Fuck you
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>>162075721
anime became shit and so everything else became shit
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>>162087263
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Elves are old and busted. Dragon girls are the new hotness.
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>>162088106
> High School setting
> looks to be a generic rom-com setup
> barely noticeable Draconian features
And already Dragon girls are complete shit
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>>162088729
>And already Dragon girls are completely wonderful
FTFY
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>>162086263
I knew it was you pointy eared fuckers who did it. Curse you!
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>>162088729
>barely noticeable Draconian features
because it's totally convenient to walk around in dragon from, dumbass
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>>162088729
>barely noticeable Draconian features
look man, when your ass is the size of a building it's kind of hard to get around
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>>162088729
I agree don't listen to these retards
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>>162088803
Such QUALITY.
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>>162089215
Do you not understand the difference between being a full-on dragon and having Draconian features? This is yet another example of slapping horns on somebody and calling them a different species, she's a schoolgirl with cosplay on at best right now. Even her nails look like the kind of shit you glue on.

It's funny that in a thread talking about what ruined one particular fantasy race, somebody post a picture of the best possible example of why elves or shit nowadays and it applies to another fantasy race that has already gone down the drain as far as anime representation is concerned
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