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Absolute AOTY. Yuri will reign over all.
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Somebody please help them
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>Altair and Setsuna clearly have a creation/god and child/parent relationship
>Literally everyone, including people who hate yuri, are calling it /u/
What the fuck are you guys doing?
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Literally the golden ending.
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WHAT THE FUCK WHEN WILL SOTA GET HIS GIRL
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>several died for nothing
>muh power of love and friendship
what the fuck is holopsicon anyway? next ep holopsicon infodump?
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>>162072100
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>>162072022
Such an outstanding conclusion. I always thought Setsuna was a bad omen but when they started out with how she was a creation herself the fears started fading away. I love Altair, I hope she'll be happy for an eternity.
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>>162072022
Quick, end an Anime/Manga/whatever with a surprice yuri ending that solve eveyrthing
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>>162072168
Holopsicon is literally the power of fanfiction.
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Creations freeloading in our world.
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>>162072100
>Altair and Setsuna clearly have a creation/god and child/parent relationship
I think you must be the most retarded idiot on this entire board if you see this as that.
I get the level of this board is low, but damn son...
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>>162072022
Loved every second of it.
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>>162072206
Literally any animu.
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I wonder what the anime audience thought of the finale.
>what if the train killed altair and now she's in her afterlife
>what happened with all the other characters
>this was a story about altair all along, they didn't need the crossover
They should've added an epilogue to that anime special, it ended just right after Altair disappeared. But I guess that works too, it would look like an EoE finale.
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>>162072022
So was Soda a /u/fag all along? Is he /ourguy/?
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WHY DID ANY OF THIS HAPPEN?
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>we will truly become re:creators
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>tfw greatest love story ever told
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>>162072354
memed into existence.
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>>162072328

>WHO THE FUCK IS SOTA
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>>162072372
At least they didn't play god of ink there
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Alice is dead, let it go.
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havent watched the episode yet

what's the altair's smile status?

Protected hopefully
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>>162072337
Finally at the end of everything Soda was /OURGUY/ and a real human been
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Fuck this trash show. Im glad its flopping
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>>162072372
Also, not sure if that was a reference to the original explanation of the holopsicon.
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>>162072403
Soda is a /u/fag. Betamax like all /u/fags.
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Meteora evil mode next ep, she kills everyone and the world collapses.
Altair was right all along, AOTY
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I wish Setsuna was a boy.
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>>162072416
More than protected.
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>>162072416
Protected forever.
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>>162072471
Then Setsuna and Altair get to remake the world whilst God of Ink plays.
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This fucking ending made no fucking sense. Nigga knew all the villains motivations and knew that recreating the creator would help shit a lot. But they decide to make a fucking battle with all the possible asspulls to sustain it for 2-3 episodes to finally end with the power of "creatorship"
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>>162072406
Never
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>>162072493
>>162072501
thanks now i can go to work happy
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>>162072484
Your dad wishes the same about you.
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>>162072531
I know but being a little girl is great.
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Were were /u/ when Re:Creators and Hina Logi saved animu?
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Epilogue finds Mamika and Alice recreated together, same with Selesia and Charon
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>>162072624
It's so fucking shit I want it
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Is there anything better than posting Altair in powerlevel threads and getting raging autists write essays on why their favourite character would beat her?
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A O T Y
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T
Y
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>>162072618
This didn't save shit.
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>>162072624
Probably, Altair will recreate them because she is God.
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>>162072624
>>162072624
>>162072522
takarada and mamika hugging alice
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>anime with bad exposition ends with bad exposition

POTTERY
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>>162072667
no, only reason i visit those threads is for people complaining about it. keep doing it
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i can't believe yuuya is fucking dead
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>>162072168
i want to fuck viper!
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>>162072726
Literally best girl ITT
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>>162072667
best thing is posting altair in a re:creators thread

Shitposting amplifies by 10x
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>>162072667
I laugh everytime they make walls of text
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Well that was boring as fuck. I don't mind so much that they went with this conclusion, but it took way too long.
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Sota to Setsuna? Setsuna to Altair? Or Altair to Setsuna?
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So Setsuna drew Altair because Souta inspired her?
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>>162072715

He never poofed into cubes so no
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>>162072259
They have to go back.
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Why couldn't Altair just recreate Setsuna with her infinite abilities as well? If fucking Magane's ability could make it happen then why not hers considering she's even more powerful?
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So what happens to the creations now?
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>>162072891
But ACCEPTANCE anon
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>>162072809
>>162072818
The main thread is hilarious.
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>>162072891
She never wanted it
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>>162072875
Setsuna to Altair I guess.

>>162072891
Nobody gave Altair Magane's power.
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>>162072907
They die because they aren't real
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>>162072875
>世界は二人のために
Gee, take a wild guess.
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>>162072891

Because it would be the real thing. Only person who could authentically do it was sota
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>>162072891
>Magane
They could have removed Magane from the story and literally nothing would have changed. The audience was accepting absolutely everything anyways.
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>>162072875
sota to shark
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>>162072891
Probably because all she had were fragmented memories of Setsuna. She never met her or knew what she was actually like. Souta was the only one that could make a recreatoin of her.
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>>162072962
I fully accept that it sucked /u/ fags are cancer as always
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>>162072946
Altair literally has a better version of Magane's power.
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>>162072929
THere is no creation Setsuna to pull from a fictional world.
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>>162072959

*wouldn't

To add, all Altair had of setsuna was muh feelings and emotions/anger of the world which isn't enough as proven by how setsuna had to defuse her anger and tell her she was wrong in doing that.
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>>162072962
It really wouldn't have changed much. All that would have happened is that Souta's creation of Setsuna would be a straight asspull instead of having an almost equally ridiculous mode of activation.
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>>162072962
Teleporting them all into another story is not within Meteora's powers.
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So basically their plan worked and Meteora won?
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Japan says it's shit too.
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>>162073173
Meteora always wins
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>>162072875
Sota to Yurihime publisher.
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>>162073210

W-What about Selesia..?
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What is the next episode supposed to be?
feels like there was a lot of missed potential with the holopsicon
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>>162073256
Selesia is dead
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>>162073175
2ch said second episode was shit too, who cares about them
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>>162073175
Japan loved the GITS movie, so Japan can suck it.
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>>162073175
Two Altairs weren't enough.
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>Altair could only be stopped (not defeated) by using the greatest ass pull of all time by literally bringing back the dead
Really activates my almonds.
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>>162072165
Setsuna will just ask for Altair to bring Souta into their world for threesomes.
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trash episode, altairfags should kill themselves
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>>162073284
This entire anime was shit.
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>>162073173
Yes, everyone won except Mamika, Selesia, Charon, Sirius and Aliceteria.
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>>162073284
They were totally right.
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>>162073256
She went out like a true kamikaze. Nippon banzai.
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>>162073270
Creations are stuck. They have evolved past their stories. Author antagonists stir shit up by bringing more creations
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>>162073319
Just pointing out nothing changed on their front according to some here.
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>>162072484
That would mean Souta would be twice the fag he already is.
>meeting online people IRL because of their avatars
>they're dudes
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I think the train was the true MVP in this show.
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>>162073173
In a way.

The original plan fell apart immediately, only Soda doing something pretty fucking diabolical and also something the show said on more then one occasion 'why not just make a story in which she loses?' wouldn't work.

So overall Meteroa victory but the audience are the ones who really lost for having to watch this shit
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>>162073336
I want Altair to be my cute maid.
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>>162072022
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>>162073336
Sirius was probably the biggest loser. The rest will come back 110%
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>>162073404
I can't believe Train-kun is actually dead!
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>>162073309
Sota could just ask Altair to teleport him to them when he gets sick of the real world
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>>162073449
What about bookstore owner? Will one of his creations make a world for them to live together forever?
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>>162072022
A incredible shitty ending for a shitty disappointing anime.

Basically the Quelida anime
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>>162073538
He's dead.
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I really really hate the ending.
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>>162073538
I wonder if there was a re-write/genre change after he died.

Because honestly with the show having played out as is, it looks tonally inconsistent with the rest of it.
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I thought Sota would have created a waifu for himself.
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Is sota x shark teeth canon? I dropped this awhile ago.
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This was the worst episode by far, what were they thinking?
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>>162073256

>Meteora sends her "Friends" to die while trying their best while she ends up saving the world safe and sound within the command center

Who will stop the meteora jew?
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> Everyone who died didn't matter, cliche backup worked without a hitch, villains 100% redeemed
Nips can't write endings, news at eleven.
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This is proof that the audience will except anything as long as there are cute girls and mechs and bullshit twists
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Was this the last episode?
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APOLOGIZE
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Cute.. CUTE!
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best OTP
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>>162073596
Who knows, maybe it was always meant to be that Magane was unpredictable.
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>>162073270
>like last 3 minutes of the anime
>sudden switch to the creators of it irl
>"remember fans, you too have the power to create and change things"
>picture of two random girls riding a scooter into the sunset
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>>162073620
yup
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>>162073672
No.
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>>162073672
No, one more. Probably wrapping things up.
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>>162073670
Was there a single point where the audience did what they didn't want them to? Altair possessing the puppet doesn't really count.
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Where would Altair rank in the power level chart?
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>>162072484
Altair being a boy would work better.
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>next episode
>so much hate for the ending of it is posted on internet forums all over Japan
>thousands of people saying that setsuna is shit and they're glad she died
>Altair goes rage mode once she finds out
>uses the holopsicon to go back in time to kill the creators and prevent the bird cage from being made
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>they haven't killed meteora
oh for fuck sakes
>>162073672
second to last episode
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>>162073678
I think it needed hatless Altair.
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>>162072022

>ended on the obvious and expected "power of friendship" note

I was at least hoping for a twist in there:

>Altair goes REEEEEEE and kills Setsuna, only for another one to pop out from behind her and slap Altair silly
>Setsuna gets train'd right before Altair's eyes, triggering an autistic meltdown
>Altair gets train'd to save Setsuna, and by some miracle Setsuna gets shit out of the chamber fest into the real world (along with Altair's death making all the creations go away)
>It was actually Soda in disguise trying to trick Altair
>Soda doing SOMETHING besides standing there

What really bugs me though is all the unanswered shit. Why does Altair seem to know exactly who Soda is in ep1, yet she NEVER speaks to him? Why did Soda and Fatso teleport into the anime worlds? How did Altair even materialize in the first place?
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>>162072022
I think Souta's real feat here was writing something so consistent with Setsuna's memories and emotions. If he fucked up Altair would definitely catch on and it would probably ruin the mood.
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>>162072022
Is this shit finally over? I stopped watching after Mamika died. Was the ending good?
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>Altairfags went from edgy faggots to /u/ faggots
I thought I was going to like that's gonna have a good ending but it didn't have to be like this.

Souta should've started a match between just himself and Altair, but he doesn't even face her and instead made a copy of his dead friend just to make her sympathetic. I know that there's one more episode left but it seems like it's already done now that the festival is finished.
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>>162073596
No, that was just how shark was in her story, but she started changing while she was out of it.
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>>162073808
Altair should be having sex with Sota
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>>162073840
Yes.
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>>162073840
No, it was trash. Fuck off.
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>>162073840
Extraordinary.
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I think I hate Setsuna as much as I hate Homura. I really really hate Homura.
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>that ending

Wow its fucking nothing.

What a shit show.

Could have literally just showed a white screen with THE HEART on it.
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>>162073904
theres another episode left retard
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Setsuna has a really cute design.
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>>162073861
sota should stand there and do nothing. he's good at that.
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Absolutely cute.
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Can someone make a webm of this?
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>>162073734
was there a single point of the show other than its own dick sucking that impressed anyone, other than the pretty great visual composition/music.

I think not, literalally carried by cliches and what litttle isn't cliched is under developed because cliches have taken too much screen time despite being used to save time.

How is this not the shittier fate:?
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>>162072271
>...
The retarded reditor is you
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>>162073783
Hush, anon. Only Yuri now.
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>>162073270
Dumb frogposter.
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>>162073914
It'll just be some sort of epilogue episode. There's nothing left to do. Altair fucked off with her yuri wife to another world in another universe.
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>>162073783
I'm starting to think more and more that at some point there was a rewrite. There's just too much bullshit and unanswered questions.

>>162073812
God I hate that Altair got off scot free from her crimes. Good people died for her to live in essentially the best possible ending for her.

>>162073853
I was foolish enough to think there would be at least an event to end it. Having WORDS WORDS WORDS be the conclusion was predictable but so fucking sad.

>>162073856
Yeah but all the other creations came frome settings (apart from Mamika) which involved killings, why didn't they do it? Why does no-one die in the rest of the anime apart from Shark's victims?
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>>162073935
are you making these webms? you should make one of the train getting fucked by her swords / sabers because of the trainwreck posters that plagued these threads
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What I found incredibly hard to believe was the audience and everyone watching actually thought that fucking debacle was entertaining and emotionally investing in the slightest and not trash.
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>>162073950
Start by making coherent sentences
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>>162073980
>Good people
Who?
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>>162073978
Smart Dumb frogposter
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>>162073812
>>162073743
So cute!
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>>162073987
I was invested.
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>>162073987
They didn't have to watch the rest of this garbage centered around secondary characters so for them Altair genuinely was the main character.
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>>162074023
The creations/the two randomers.
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>Literally deus ex'd Setsuna back to life and fucked off to a custom made universe on a custom made world

How utterly trash.
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Fuck I can't believe they did the Poochie ending.
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>>162073987
I enjoyed it.
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>>162073987
nobody wants a cute rogue little girl to die in the shitty movie anon
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>>162074088
No that's what they did to Magane.
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>could have had final boss fight of Altair vs Soda
>instead get some really sappy ending that doesn't make much sense

Altair knew it was a fake, and Soda even said as much. Despite this, apparently just fucking off to magic water land was perfectly fine. What should have happened was

>Altair does the usual "oh shit is it really you"
>notices the glasses
>starts screeching about how dare they try to use her creator against her
>storm of swords to stab the fake to death
>SODA I WILL KILL YOU FOR THIS
>get shockwave or some shit
>suddenly Altair has busted out of the cage with the rage of a thousand suns to go murder Soda
>grabs him and pulls him into some void so she can kill him without any interference
>cue God of Ink beating her ass down
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>Altair is the vengeful creation of a girl bullied to death
>her character tragedy comes from her inherited anger and sadness at the world and her strength from a desire to end it
>lol lets just throw Setsuna at her that's a good character end

I fucking hate this show
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>>162074152
>that doesn't make much sense
But it does make sense.
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Stitches from this episode?
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>>162074072
Altair killed Mamika and Alice, which didn't impact their stories in any way. They weren't even citizens of Japan like team government.
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Was anyone else really hoping for Altair and Setsuna to both die to the train together?
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What a meme of an ending.
WOAT
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It wasn't supposed to be like this bros, I'm literally cancelling my BD pre orders. Setsuna was supposed to be with Soda.
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>>162074010
More!
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>>162074152
>actually wanting bitchboy sota to something
Faggot.
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>>162074152
>Soda beating O MY HOLOSCOPION makes more sense than what we got
You may be even more retarded than Aoki.
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>>162073783
>Why does Altair seem to know exactly who Soda is in ep1, yet she NEVER speaks to him?
She knows him through Setsuna's fragmented memories, she is not his friend or anything to bother looking for him.
>Why did Soda and Fatso teleport into the anime worlds?
It seems they'll leave it open. They could have explained as people around the distortion getting pulled, and Souta being pulled because he got somehow Setsuna's tablet (one more things he earned through her death). Or something else, but it would probably be explained by Meteora's infodump anyway (if it's not what she'll be doing next episode).
>How did Altair even materialize in the first place?
Because the fictional worlds are actually real, she already existed and had the innate powers to travel through dimensions. The question is how she got Setsuna's memory fragments to track down the real world, and they probably don't know that.
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Setsuna is the most boring and bland character I have seen in a long time. She's just a deus ex machina to end the story.
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>>162074275

>implying it would need to make sense

Uso no uso nigger.
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>even Goddess Sirius-usurper Altair with public acceptance and full power holopsicon is unable to even just contain train
Jesus fucking Yamato just how broken are the cold and truck-kun then
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>>162074232
No.
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If holopscion is an infinite power and can rewrite even fate and create a new universe and world then why didn't Altair just recreate Setsuna and the new universe and world right from the beginning?
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>>162074232
There was one theory on the last thread that I was in that posted that
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>>162074299
You have no idea how any of the powers work in this show.
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>>162074325

>not just using plot removal or whatever the fuck it was on Setsuna's grave to rewind her back to the beginning of the "story"
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Why were the fighters talking about Mamika's death when her show still airs every saturday and she died completely off camera to the in universe audience?
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How the fuck is Altair fine with a fake? I thought she'd at least have some conviction as a redeeming trait.
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>>162074300
Train was no normal train, it was fate
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>>162074325
literally already asked and answered in this thread, you stupid frodoposter.
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>>162074238

Don't be too hasty breh there's still one episode. But i agree with yu.
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>>162074325
Because Altair hated the world. She didn't want to create a fake new Setsuna, she wanted vengeance.
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>all those people who died
>power of friendship and love ending
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>>162074395
Watch the fucking episode
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>>162074325
Because Altair was tricked into thinking that Setsuna came back through a miracle even though she is dead. What she took/interacted with was Soda's idea of her.

Although I'm not sure why everyone in the show is convinced the dead can't come back,
your talking to fucking fictional characters who are real you shits
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>>162074441

Did you rike it?
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>>162074238
What the fuck did Soda do to deserve her, he probably couldn't even fix a car.
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>>162073981
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This ending is complete dumpster fire trash and invalidates the ENTIRETY of the show we all just sat through for weeks.

From what we've seen of Altair's powers she can:
>remove the plot of a story
>reconstruct fate
>reverse causality
>create a new universe/world

So then why the fuck did she never just bring Setsuna back to life herself? I'm not talking about a creation like the one she just fucking settled for. Based on what we've seen of this "infinite power" she is more than capable of raising the dead.
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>>162072022
>multiple characters die or are now on the verge of death
>they fought for nothing because enemy gets easily Talk no Jutsu'd with a fake version of her GF

A class in the making indeed
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>>162074441
She is a cartoon, not your waifu.
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>>162074325
Because she didn't want to save Setsuna, she just wanted to end world?
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>>162074447

Maybe you should be taking your own advice dumb speedwatcher
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I swear to god if Altair brings back everyone that died back next episode I will flip a god damn table. Actually it doesn't even matter when I think about it. Either way it would be stupid in the end.
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>>162074441
>all those people who died
The only one that died was the bookstore guy.
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>>162072354
And now she has free reign on the world. Shitting on it as she sees fit.
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>>162074500
I know the answer to your question because I watched it you dumb cunt.
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>>162074458
>Altair was tricked
No she wasn't. She was fully aware that Setsuna was a fake creation. But then she just said fuck it and settled for it instead of the real thing.
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>>162074473
When Altair became this meta fucking god is when the show was done. Introducing that kind of power level always ruins everything it touches.
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So what would be the correct punishment for Hiroe and Aoki?
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>>162074469
He upvoted some of her pictures which is like giving a mana infusion into god or some shit. Look the story isn't very good okay.
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>>162074470
>trying to stop this trainwreck
So meta.
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>>162074473
You didn't watch this episode?
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>>162074537

Filling the blanks with your own fanfiction doesn't make you any less of a speedwatcher
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>>162074542
This.
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>>162074514

Altair, now with the power of love in her heart, will rewrite everything to no longer have pain and suffering in it (e.g. Alice no longer is in Guts land). Then she'll revive everyone and they'll all live happily ever after.

Bonus round: Altair brings Soda to Setsuna and then poofs out of existence since her job is done.
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>>162072667
She and Shark will live on past the show.
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>>162074550
Give them the train.
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>>162074497
>Because she didn't want to save Setsuna, she just wanted to end world?
And suddenly this episode she wants the opposite because MUH FRIENDSHIP

Trash.
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>>162074003
>How is this not the shittier fate:?
fuck you I am angry that the show didn't flesh the characters out and instead went the pseudo meta route

so fuck off
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>>162074588
>Bonus round: Altair brings Soda to Setsuna and then poofs out of existence since her job is done.
Not that
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>>162074514
>>162074588
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>>162074619
>she wants the opposite because MUH FRIENDSHIP
She doesn't give a shit about the world, she wanted to save Setsuna from dying again.
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What was the point of all the fights up until now if they didn't plan on doing a final battle?
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I have not been this conflicted about an ending, it's that feeling similar to the end of Madoka Magica. The TV series, not that dumb Rebellion movie.
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>>162074616
Probably, they are the best designs.

Although only their designs will live on mind you, apart from maybe Sharks. Altair will just become powerlevel b8, shark might live on as a reaction image.
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>>162074671
Oh my god you're right. I hated Madoka's ending just as much.
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>>162074670

It's still not over
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I liked it.

Altair got her happy ending, that's all I wanted.

It would have been neat to see her go berserk and attack Setsuna for a "destroy the world" ending, but that didn't happen. I'm happy with it.
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>>162074670
What was the point in having two teams if one team was just going to collapse during the final fight?
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>>162074473
She was literally only a god in the bird cage where she can give continuous full approval from the gods of pleasure. She got the power to create worlds in that very moment.
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>>162074662
Exactly. She did a complete 180 instantly. She could have just fucking used her infinite meta powers and stopped Setsuna from ever dying in the first place or brought her back to life. But you literally just said she didn't care about that and suddenly she does now.

Like I said, trash. Complete utter dribble.
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>>162074670
To show that yuri trumps over everything.
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Cute
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>>162074741
You really didn't pay much attention to this.
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>>162074741
Because she can't go back in time.
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>>162073812
Dere Hime exists. Last episode only like her new costume.
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>>162074550
>>162074550
be parasitized by a macrobios
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>>162074741
Setsuna is not an anime character until the Elimination Chamber plot was kickstarted, and even so she's just background character. Even someone with Holopsicon can overlook that minor but important detail.
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I'm no even clear what happened. I thought when Setsuna was commiting suicide again that Altair was using her holoscpion bullshit to change reality to switch places with her so setsuna would stay in the real world and altair would die, but that's obviously not happened.
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I don't think I'd do anything different from Altair.
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>>162074152
She's not fake, anon. Setsuna said herself that she doesn't know how she got there, or how she's alive. She wasn't a work of fiction, but Soda-kun revived her anyways. He brought her back to life using Magane's uso no uso making him the only match for hime. Setsuna wanted to kill herself so the world wouldn't get all fucked up (things cant come back to life, fucks with the stability of the universe). This is different from the other creations who can stay there just fine, but Setsuna still being alive is a direct violation of this, even if she follows the same rules of the world (not being extremely OP like the creations). This is why Altair saved Setsuna and herself by creating an entire new universe just for them to become gods, and abide by their own rules. She also respects Setsuna's wish not to kill everyone and punish them.

>people will say this isn't the case because of the glasses
>implying the clothes / glasses she had on in her grave (not an open casket mind you, she got run over by a fucking train) are still wearable
Soda just took the entire station platform and materialized it similarly to the way he did it to her clothes. That doesn't indicate that she's fake, it was bringing her back to life but with his last real memory of what she looked like.

This includes the clothes she wore at both her suicide and the event she went to with soda. faggots will complain about this but who knows how long it was between her suicide and that event? maybe she just liked the outfit?
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>>162074733
I hated it
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I followed this show for weeks, expected nothing, and somehow they even shoot lower than that. What could possibly be resolved by the last episode? Are the creations just going to fade out of existence and that's it? Why did they never show Mamika's creator? What was the point of the ero-game girl besides taking up space? This show is a wellspring of wasted potential and shit.
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>>162074907
>speedwatchers
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>>162074853
Setsuna was supposed to die but Altair altered fate and created an entire world where she could live.
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>>162074674
She has a reaction for everything anon.
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>>162074853
She rewrote fate so that she never got hit by a train, but the world was rejecting it so it was recreating the train at the same time Altair was trying to rewrite it even being there.
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>>162074907
What was the point of bringing in Charon and Syo?
>>162074926
Please explain then.
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>>162074926
You are trying too hard, fanboy-kun
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>>162074733
>Kill them all, Altair-chan.
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>>162074853
The bird cage is 2.5D, so dead people can't live there (much less in the 3D world). She was trying to fight fate, and used her acceptance to give herself the power to create worlds, a world where Setsuna could live.
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OH GREAT! THIS ENTIRE SHOW WAS FUCKING NOTHING!
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I hope we will have Altair, Setsuna and Sota meet in an epilogue, it would be a fine end to the story.
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>>162074542
Fucking betrays her war against the gods. In the end, she's just a toy, like all the other creations.
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>>162074907
Agreed. This could've easily capitalized on Fates recent popularity surge by creating the same thing, but with OCs and anime/manga characters but instead we got this complete meta mess that fell flat on its face.
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>>162074674
Just as god intended
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>>162074958
Conflict? Hell, I wish I could begin to imagine but they were utterly pointless aside from antagonizing one and making the other drive Selestia to a mutual suicide because they couldn't beat him.
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>>162074983

>they meet
>"Thanks for giving me my waifu back, faggot"
>proceeds to go do /u/ things all while Soda grumbles and shifts uncomfortably as he usually does
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>>162074958
>What was the point of bringing in Charon and Syo?
Making the story interesting so it would raise her acceptance and of the story as a whole so she could give herself new powers (she was convincing everyone she could destroy the real world, but ended up convincing the audience that she could create new worlds instead).
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>>162074973
>I'm a speedwatcher
Just stop.
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> He brought her back to life using Magane's uso no uso making him the only match for hime.

I thought that was to get past acceptance, not to fucking rezzie her

>Setsuna wanted to kill herself so the world wouldn't get all fucked up (things cant come back to life, fucks with the stability of the universe).
I mean, she didn't really express that specifically.

>This is different from the other creations who can stay there just fine, but Setsuna still being alive is a direct violation of this, even if she follows the same rules of the world
Who are you quoting here? No-one has mentioned anything about this being against the rules apart from saying it can't happen.

Also the fact that he says that he drew her. She is clear as day a fake and not the real Setsuna.
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>>162075027
He'll be forced to join them. Setsuna would want it.
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>>162074958
To bring despair to Selesia and Yuya. She even stated that the audience love Urobutcher-tier plot progression,
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>>162074961
No joke I was hoping for an end where Setsuna was like "Fuck everyone, let's kill them all together Altair."

Because, I mean, if you hate the world enough to kill yourself you probably have no problem fucking over everyone who fucked you over.
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>>162075062
meant for

>>162074891
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>>162075029
>but ended up convincing the audience that she could create new worlds instead
No she didn't. She literally pulled it out of her ass like she always could of because her power is infinite and was always based off other people's acceptance of her as an OC character. She was a popular pixiv character that got an OVA debut.
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I can't feel bad for you when you lose if you fuck with Altair this much tbqh. Sirius was really underhanded too
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>>162075079
>>162075029
Okay, thanks for explaining. The fictional audience might have loved it, but I didn't like it.
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> Team govt still insisting the audience accept this trash
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>>162075062
>I thought that was to get past acceptance, not to fucking rezzie her
When she came back the audience probably wanted the real deal, not some fake that would get Altair mad and would become a pincushion together with the rest. The audience is the true god.
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>>162075082
Nah that would be interesting. Gotta have her regret her actions! Even though her dying wish was for everyone else to die.

Although this is further proof that she is a fake, I still hate it for the lost potential.
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>>162075132
If it makes you feel any worse I liked it.
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>>162072022
Altair deserve happiness.
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>>162072022
Setsuna is right about what she said, it applies to me. Altair is and always will be my knight in shining armor, I'll never stop drawing her....
But what happens now?? Please tell me they didn't disappear from our world... far from our grasp.
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How can it be yuri when NewSetsuna is written by Soda to be Soda's waifu?
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>>162075157
Edgy=/=interesting
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AOTY

But i don't know, Violet Evergarden will be out next season, so...
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>>162075157
It's the Setsuna who Sota knew before she killed herself so he wouldn't have seen her in the time before suiciding because he cut contact with her. If he had that would have been the Setsuna who materialized, not kind waifu who he knew.
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>>162075181
Soda is a beta yurifag
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>>162075134
>AHA! Look! The audience have a 1000% acceptance rate! They also pre-ordered the Re:creators Blu-Ray and rated us five stars on your local anime rating website™!
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>>162075181
He optimized her for Altair's taste
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>>162075194
Interesting =/= enjoyable
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>>162074891
If you can be deleted just by contradicting the law of the world too much, then you're a Creation. That Setsuna exists because of Magane's meme power, metaphysically she's on the same level as the Hounds of Tindalos Magane used to kill that bookstore owner.
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>>162074958
>>162074960
guess it can't be helped, I'll spoonfeed you two trainwreck posters.
>Why did they never show Mamika's creator?
this was explicitly stated that it was just a bunch of people working for a studio, not a lone author, looking to sell merch for her or whatever. It wouldn't have done anything to have her meet her creators
>What was the point of the ero-game girl besides taking up space?
ero game girl exists for fanservice and acceptance, in both the show and for IRL. this is obvious
>What could possibly be resolved by the last episode?
Altair not trying to destroy the fucking universe anymore? take a guess retard
>Are the creations just going to fade out of existence and that's it?
We still have an episode left, anon
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>>162075239
I enjoyed it
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>>162075132
Well it's obvious that not everyone in the audience loved it. Pretty much only the edgy teenagers sort of audience will accept the utterly shocking death of the main girl Selesia.
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Was this the last episode?
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>>162075333
No
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>>162075229
>how real life works
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>>162075181
He has an ntr fetish.
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>>162072328
There is one episode left you faggot.
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>>162075013

I will miss shark
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>>162075333
Next week but probably no sequel bait or anything.
I hope it focuses on the creations
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>>162075333
It's the last episode in my heart
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>>162075388
SO CUTTE
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>>162075388
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>>162075382
Hiroe is a big sharkfag. Maybe he's willing to do more stuff with her involved.
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>>162075082
>Fuck everyone, let's kill them all together
This would amount to killing Soda too
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What if next episode has people realizing that was all kinda bullshit, leading to there being no acceptance for Altair or Setsuna. Altair and Setsuna then cease to exist.

Goddamn let that be the ending. It shows that Altair is nothing more than a creation that has to bend to the will of the gods.
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>>162075373
>speedreading /a/ posts
There is a limit in how lazy you guys can be.
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>>162075074
>Soda gets kidnapped by a lustful Setsuna and is now forced into fatherhood in this new world.

>It took dying and near extinction for Setsuna to get the dick.

BRAVO
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>>162072995
>I fully accept that
You're just jealous because your tastes suck.
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>>162075388
Why does she get to be happy when everyone else gets to suffer through this shit anime?

I know you can hear this Altair your meta enough now
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>>162075265
I understand all of that and it makes sense in the context of the story, but it's not interesting to watch.
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>>162075423
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>>162075432
Watching her cause global chaos will be fun to watch. It may even get more meta if she gets the Lagoon company involved.
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>>162075435
Altair is the type of character that features in revenge fics. As long as people are looking for revenge, she will have power. She said so herself.
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>>162075457
Because you're a faggot and you don't deserve nice things.
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Worst than Key endings.
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>>162075457
Because everyone but a few waifufags that got their waifu killed wanted her to get a good ending. She is the character that acts evil but everyone just wants her to be happy and show her dere side.
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>>162073314
You idiot, if the kill themselves Altair will come to our world to avenge them
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>>162075529
Nah, Hiroe is not dying due to having a defective heart, AFAIK.
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>Troyca is playing the long con to establish a large assortment of franchises so that in the future they can use their original IP's in a battle royal that has characters we're all familiar with instead of OC's
Eggs VS Rui when?
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>>162075432
Hiroe calls her disgusting.
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Holy shit, this was completely underwhelming. 20 minutes of Setsuna talking and then lol Holopsicon.
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Imagine if a huge crossover like the ECF really happened featuring characters from popular franchises and some OC by some girl who killed herself over internet drama, and everything proceeds exactly how it did in Re:Creators with all the popular characters jobbing and everything being resolved by having the dead girl seemingly randomly appear to appease her OC.
Imagine being on /a/ for a trainwreck like that. We'd have a fucking field day with this.
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>>162074580
Altair verbally acknowledged she was a fake and said that she still couldn't make herself kill a fake. Slow down speedwatcher.
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>>162075581
Is that a lie?
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>>162075457
Well if I made a meme character I would want her to be happy too, even at the expense of mainstream characters.
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>>162073175
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>>162075588
Hey, at least it's not Meteora talking
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>>162075554
I wanted Altair to get a really bittersweet ending where she accepts that Setsuna is gone and will never come back, but feels relieved because she admits it.
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>>162074441
>>all those people who died
They weren't real in the first place.
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>>162075614
you can find out for yourself.
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>most of the haters are the retarded anti-yuri shitposters
Show confirmed good, given that the ones hating it are the same absolute retards trying to make hatred of yuri and it's fanbase some kind of law that must be followed
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>>162074741
Maybe it has something to do with her only being able to bring back Setsuna after making the entire audience so emotionally engaged that they want it to happen, dumb speedwatcher.
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>>162075666
She said she didn't have a story in the last episode, Satan. They needed to give her a reason not to destroy the world and a world to live at the same time.
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>>162075669
> Altair and Setsuna walk away into a happy sunset
They weren't real in the first place.
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>>162074522
And Magane's creator.
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>>162075666
It's a bittersweet ending if you think for two seconds. A lot more sweet than it is bitter, but Setsuna is still not completely real
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>>162074741
>I haven't watched the last episode btw
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>>162075691
They are worse than anti-yuri shitposters. They are speedwatchers.
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>>162075734
>They weren't real in the first place.
Dude... Shut up. We do love Altair, the others don't matter.
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>>162075062
It was to get past acceptance, without that he couldn't have wrote her into existence at all. It's not like Setsuna was literally written into existence, nor was Altair. she had to materialize somehow which is unexplained and who fucking cares about the science of that. If you wanted a 24 minute long explanation from meteora about something that obviously can't work in real life then sure. But for everyone else, it's just rule of cool and nobody wants more rambling about it
>Who are you quoting here? No-one has mentioned anything about this being against the rules apart from saying it can't happen.
I'm quoting her getting bluebricked because she and that platform aren't supposed to be there, and the universe is overwriting it anon. Rather than force it to stay there and fuck the world up permanently, Altair took her out and made a universe just for them so that they don't ruin it for everyone else.
>I mean, she didn't really express that specifically
see pic related. "No, Altair! I'm here because I bent the most important rule in the world! If things stay like this... everything will be over!"
She seems like she has a good idea of what's going on.
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>Altair suddenly doesn't want to destroy the world anymore
Top Ten Anime Betrayals (2017)
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Fuck this show. Mamika died offering Altair the same sort of love and forgiveness out of sheer desire for peace and happiness for everyone. Alice and Selesia died fighting to put a final stop to Altair. And then what?
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>>162075824
That's not Suruga killing Erina again in the next volume.
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>>162075848
And then we have yuri ending that everyone can accept. Acceptance is important. Cockmonglers won't accept this, but then they aren't important.
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>>162075465
Well then that's your opinion then, and I accept that
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>>162075848
She wanted to keep the Setsuna she got.
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>>162075718
Have her fade away because the only thing sustaining her was her rage.
>>162075753
I wanted to see Altair screaming and lashing out until she'd burnt herself out as the world rejected her. She'd slip and say Setsuna is never coming back and follow that train of thought until she acknowledges that she can't do anything about it. She could be spamming Holo until she ends up writing herself out of existence. I loved Altair up until this episode, but this ending rubbed me the wrong way. I felt the same thing with Homura.
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>>162075879
>And then we have yuri ending that everyone can accept.

Except I can't. All that buildup, all that hype for fights that didn't deliver, and then we just got some retarded acceptance and closure for Altair be the thing that saves the world. What a waste of everything.
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>>162073175
Oh fuck this is golden.
Also google translator has become really fucking good.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS GOD OF INK
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Why Altair didn't just holopsicon a Setsuna in the first place?
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>>162075178
As long as people still meme her, she will continue existing.
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>>162076005
>GOD OF INK
WHat is this meme about?
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>>162076005
Right here.
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>>162076028
see >>162074851
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>>162076005
In the next episode, anon.
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>>162075925
>Have her fade away because the only thing sustaining her was her rage.
That's not really a bittersweet ending, it's a pure bad ending where she loses everything, decides it doesn't matter anymore and dies. Not to mention she doesn't live because of rage in the first place, she lives because of the thousands of creators that love her.
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>>162076028
Nobody can give you the full answer, from my perspective either because she didn't exist as a creation she could holopsicon or she already had her thoughts to guide her conquest for revenge
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So what will the last episode be about?
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>>162075925
>I felt the same thing with Homura.
Uhh what, how is she even remotely similar to Homura? Homura did nothing wrong.
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>720p 854mb/1080p 1.64gb
>animation quality felt about the same as the last few episodes
??
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>>162076142
How are they going to send the creations back with Altair gone?
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>>162075718
Cute doggie
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>>162076142
Altair/Setsuna adventures as gods
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>>162076175
> Send back
They were traced from the stories. The originals never left.
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>>162076142
Meteora recapping the whole event
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>>162076175
Meteora has the holopsicon ability to move between worlds thanks to the ECF. Altair could also come back, but she probably doesn't care.
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>>162075879
Fuck you. Soda shows how pathetic you yurifags really are.
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>>162076175
There's nothing really stopping Altair from visiting the real world.
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>>162076233
>muh self insert
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>>162075465
>it makes sense in the context of the story, but it's not interesting to watch
Pretty much my problem with this show, they set up so many rules and restrictions so that it could at least stay somewhat coherent, but just because something is justified by the narrative it doesn't mean it makes for a good story. Following this reasoning you can justify all kinds of bullshit, like Meteora's approval meter and audience gauge which sounds fucking stupid despite being internally consistent.
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>>162076142
About thousands of doujin circles writing Altair/Setsuna doujins in Recreatorstaisai.
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>>162076258
This is actually going to happen.
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Vogelchevalier 2018
Make it real
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Where the fuck is Shark even?
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>>162076318
at an airport
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>>162074473
>damn, this world is so shit it made my creator kill herself
>she'll love if I bring her here again im sure
are you guys watching the same show
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>>162076318
Died in an airplane accident.
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>>162074853
Magane's meme power force Setsuna to exist in this world, but this is too much contradiction and the world is trying to de-meme Setsuna. Altair uses O MY HOLOPSICON to keep Setsuna alive, but this is also getting de-meme'd by the world. However, the audience (who are 90% yurifags) are really moved by Altair's purest form of love, and this gives Altair enough power to force the continuation of both her and Setsuna.
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Well, it suck a bit that Altair become this kind of villan. If he had became a Char with hisown agenda, or an honorable enemy who although hating Souta, but does not lower to certain idiocies, would be better. Establish an empire only on butthurt is really something so tragic-comic, which I could not help but applaud when they BTFO him for the second time.
Altair is like Bizon from Buddy Complex, she literally wants to establish an empire of butthurt.
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>>162076318
In my bed.
>but that's bullshit
USO NO USO
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>>162076369
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>>162075386
>Next week but probably no sequel bait or anything.

Ahem, Magane is something stored up and everyone is going to be shocked
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>>162076369
>they BTFO him
>him
I know you like cocks but come on
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>>162076058
Setsuna loves Souta's huge dick
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>>162076336
>>162076354
So she got the fuck out of Dodge? Jesus Christ.
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>>162076409
I would love it.
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>>162076418
Souta is a yurifag.
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>>162076405
here on
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>>162076418
>Setsuna can just grow a dick
>Futa on Futa doujins

This is okay.
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>>162075892
Your opinion is trash, like you.

>>162075465
>>162076251

Biggest issue with the show, and the fact that they had the gall to even talk about how it's important that shows do things that are interesting because it's what the audience wants. It's ridiculous how it flew over their head entirely. If we were to somehow swap Suruga and Aoki's places, I'm sure things would've been way more interesting, because at least Suruga would make Aoki learn something by the end of the fucking show and make it interesting while doing so.
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> Altair
> Champion of the weak
> Gets upset over a girl and removes herself from the world
Pottery.
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Is this yuri?
Asking for a friend.
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>>162076490
That would explain a lot.
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>>162076417
Altair plays the role of man in the relationship
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>>162076437
She has bigger plans oncoming

Magane is the true villain of Re:Creators
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>>162076547
No.
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>>162076547
I'd say a little before this one but its 120% yes right now
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>Hiroe wanted to show Altair being dere in front of Setsuna, and finally this happened in episode 21
Thank you, Hiroe.
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>>162076502
Altair a cuck. A KEK!
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>>162075435
>>162075435
it would be great
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>>162076640
I can't wait for the last volume cover with Altair and Setsuna holding hands in Hiroe's art.
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>>162076547
nah
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>>162072382
Said nobody ever but /u/shits.

>>162073175
Good taste for once. Japan understands that this garbage ending makes no sense because the crowd wouldn't approve a dogshit yuri ending, approval rating would be too low.

>>162073284
>>162073290
>>162073293
>we only hate 2ch when it fits our agenda for pro yuri!!!
Kill yourselves. 2ch has been right about this shitfest since ep 1, only you braindead yurifags with garbage taste like this drivel.

>>162073557
Quality code was better than this dogshit.
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>>162073882
>>162073891
>flopped into oblivion
Kill yourself /u/scum.
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Altair pleases old men for approval
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>>162076701
Yes me too, but. Oh my God, it's 4:20 am here now, I gotta get some rest. How did I spend this many hours here..
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>>162073971
Hush, yurishitter. Only 0 sales now.
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>>162076640
It feels weird that this isn't a child parent relationship. Her being romantic with her feels off.
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>>162073173
Haven't watched since the reacap. The fuck happened?
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Wasted Potential: The Anime
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>>162076826
Altair killed or eliminated almost everyone only to have Shark's magic turn it around
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This feels too good too be true. Wait for the retcon to happen next ep.
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>>162076159
"Cool" character with a tragic backstory that gets a bittersweet ending after suffering. They also both get whacked with the /u/ stick a little as the show goes on. I liked Homura for most of Madoka, but when we learned her backstory she lost my favor a bit. Rebellion killed her for me. I loved Altair, but this new episode is a dent in her for me.
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>>162076826
Good end.
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>>162076826
Don't bother catching up. It's just as anticlimactic as you'd imagine.

>>162076917
>"Good"
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>>162076102
It's bittersweet in that she finally admits to herself that nothing she does will bring Setsuna back. Destroying the world won't fix anything for her. She would accept that Setsuna is gone forever and feel relief that she can stop. By rage sustaining her I meant that it's what keeps her going. Without it she doesn't have any motivation for her actions. It would be like someone accepting their death and taking it gracefully.
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What if Setsuna has been Souta's creation all along to hide his power level on the internet/IRL and he created Altair with that fake persona of his?
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I really hope that somebody will take care of fuckin Hound of Tindalos that was created/brought to our reality by Shark.
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Wait people liked this garbage ending.After they killed off everyone and wrote themselves into a corner because of how op Altair is. Also fem Guts getting killed.
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>>162076824
Agreed.

Although its some sort of weird thing considering that Fake Setsuna is made to appeal to Altair. Actually the real Setsuna would probably not get along with Altair.
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>>162077045
Explain EVERY PLOT HOLE this produces.
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>>162077045
I miss Ao so much
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>>162077092
It's the purest form of love, so of course people would love it. Who am I kidding, it's shit.
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>>162076782
Lol is that Mamika?
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>>162077074
Shark's ability only affects the one she lied too. Meteora also tells Yuya that it only works until the cursed person dies.
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>>162077109
Well for starter, Setsuna didn't kill herself, he simply deleted that "fake persona" of his, she never existed or she was the first Creation to appear.
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>>162077092
>Killing the strongest powerlevel character in fiction
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>>162077159
Mamika couldn't even HOPE to contain /ourboy/ Yuuya.
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>>162076880
You might be the only with that opinion. For some reason you like an underdeveloped, 2D version of the character.
Homura's backstory turned her into the hero of the show, and Rebellion made her the villain. She's an amazing character.

But, I can see the surface level similarities. The ending really reminded me of Kikokugai. Hiroe and butcher are friends, it makes sense that their sensibilities would mix somewhat.
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>>162077100
>While technically speaking this "Setsuna" is something created by Sota, it's a character without any additional setting beside being an ordinary girl who created Altair. Otherwise, she wouldn't be "Setsuna Shimazaki"
She's as close to the real Setsuna as could possibly be.
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>>162077092
I don't care about everyone who died. I'm mostly irritated that the "good guys" came up with the most fucked up plan possible and an anime miracle made the ends justify the means. This would have been a good point for role reversal establishing the creators as knowing no moral bounds. They don't deserve to save the world.
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I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed.
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>>162077239
>Kikokugai
I have always wanted to read this VN since forever. What it was actually about?
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>>162077269
I share the same opinion with you but I don't blame the show for that. It's fuel for discussion, nothing more nothing less.
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This show is a train-Setsuna-wreck. Literally deus ex holopsicon.

And the most interesting parts of the show, the creations... almost all of them contributed nothing to the plot except maybe Meteora.
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So where did Altair disappear to in the end?
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>>162077353
Since Setsuna can't exist in this world, Altair create an alternate universe to shelter her waifu.
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but who was re:creator??
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>>162077353
Her own gay universe.
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>>162077269
The good guys didn't save anything. They got shit on and plot twist yuri ended the show.
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>>162077391
Souta
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>>162077239
I had a girlfriend that was a total Homura fangirl for a while. I got ntr'd when she left me for a girl. Ever since I've hated Homura. It's not really much to do with the character as much as the emotions I associate with her. She's really well written like you said, but the /u/ that people associate with her is a one-two punch of bad feels for me.
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>>162077168
From what I remember, Meteora said that Shark's resistance would work until Shark dies, not Yuya.

Success of Ressurection of Setsuna affected quite a lot more people than just Sato.

I still think we have this doggy somewhere running around.
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>>162077353
A new world created by her for Setsuna.
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>>162077250
real Setsuna wanted the entire human race dead. This Setsuna did not. It's not obvious why the opinion changed other then Sota made Setsuna as he remembered her and not the hate fueled thing she was at the end.

>>162077350
This show was never popular enough to be a trainwreck.
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>>162072022
Wait, did it end already at episode 20?
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>>162077353
Magical girl lesbian valhalla
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>>162077412
Holy shit anon. I'm sorry but I chuckled a little bit.
Maybe you could have more luck next time with a fujoushi, since they are always thirsty for the dick?
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>>162073662
>Meteora unconsciously creates her ideal version
>now she has to deal with looking everyday at the body she's always wanted without being able to get it herself

can't fuck it up more than that
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Kado then this are making me want to give up on plot-driven anime once and for all, pick up amerifat series like GoT and leave anime for guilty pleasure related things like smartphone to tomo ni and sin nanatsu no taizai.
Any other anons who do this?
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>>162077412
And my girlfiend is surprised when I said that I count sleeping with girl for her as cheating too.
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>>162077300
It's an action revenge story. The action is pretty top notch martial arts chuuni stuff, I've heard people praise it as the best as far the action goes.
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>>162077353
To the story world she created for Setsuna since Setsuna original story was cancelled with no new season announced, and there Setsuna can write a story world for her since she doesn't have one either.
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>>162077350
>t. Meteora>>162077412
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>>162077486
Why. The ending was sweet
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>>162077463
Wouldn't that make things awkward?
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>>162077401
You legitimately think that the world isn't going to continue existing after this? The finale is just going to be 20 minutes of "look everyone is happy again in the creation-free real world while setsuna and altair are happy in their own world."
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>>162077416
The only effect was on Sota. All that happened was that his character was able to enter the ECF by ignoring the acceptance required to bring her there.
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This would have felt like bullshit either way, but at least adding some depth to Soda and Setsuna's relationship would have helped. I seriously don't understand how we're supposed to care about her other than as "the cute girl who got cyberbullied", and it's not like Altair got enough screentime to feel like a complex, conflicted character.
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>>162074088
>Altair went back to her home planet and undid a death

Poochie end was better desu senpai
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>>162077412
Quick, someone post that /fit/ screenshot. The one with the facebook chat.
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>>162077426
>real Setsuna wanted the entire human race dead.
The real Setsuna is more than just her sadness and anger at what happened to her.
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>>162077553
Altair had callbacks from every scene she was in for her dialogue. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>162077463
>Implying Homu is accepting new people into her Universe.
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>>162077426
>real Setsuna wanted the entire human race dead. This Setsuna did not. It's not obvious why the opinion changed other then Sota made Setsuna as he remembered her and not the hate fueled thing she was at the end.
Go watch it again. We can't work with this completely wrong observation
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>>162077531
Process of some entering the ECF had quite a lot of people. Meteora for example. They all were accepted.
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>>162077412
>Literal cucks...thats the kind of person that hates yuri and Homura.
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>>162077610
It only modified Souta's story.
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>>162077553
>I seriously don't understand how we're supposed to care about her
>not caring about a Creator in a show titled Recreators
Stop speedwatching.
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>>162073175
even without context I'm laughing at this
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>>162077529
Maybe it will be 20 minutes of hardcore Yuri porn. A cuck can hope.
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>/u/ so desperate for content they're claiming this pile of shit as a victory

Then again yuri is usually shit so I guess they're used to this sort of stuff.
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Speedwatcher here, when did they show Magane going on a plane?
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>>162077412
>Cucked by fucking Homura
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>>162077610
Meteora summoned Souta's character. The lie was that Souta's character couldn't exist without acceptance, Meteora's ability to bring characters was already well accepted so it didn't need help.
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>>162077426
>real Setsuna wanted the entire human race dead.
This is some CRAWLING IN MY SKIN-tier observation of Setsuna's character. Sorry Chester
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>>162077412
Things that never happened: The post.
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>>162077515
Just because two girls are mashing clams doesn't make the show good, /u/fag.
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>>162077680
That's like her fucking mom. This shit feels super off.
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>>162077412
Did it feel better or worse than being left for a chad?
She must have been a really annoying fangirl for you to associate a character so strongly with her. I still enjoy characters that I formerly associated with a girl, including characters she cosplayed.
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>>162077649
It override the processes, not story from my perspective. But you now, it is quite valid explanation and I would accept it. Thanks for food for thought, anon.
I just don't see any evidence that Shark's power work only on person that were lied too.
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Is this the Korra of /a/? Show is complete shit but suddenly lesbians at the end so it's actually a good show?
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>>162077768
>That's like her fucking mom. This shit feels super hot.
FTFY
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So, since this is a "live show," how is the music being composed?
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How did Sota end up in Selesia world then?
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>>162077768
>tags: yuri, age_gap, incest, aaangst
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>>162077746
Swear on my life friendo. The last time I saw her she told me to kill myself very loudly.
>>162077789
I've never been left in favor of a chad so I don't know. She was turbo into Homu and never shut up about her. Went so far as to dye her hair black and get a headband.
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>it's a "altair dindu nuffin" episode
Trash
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>>162077875
You forgot
>Futa on female
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>>162077848
Worlds collided. You need a technical explanation to everything?
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>>162077844
They made it before. They even made some songs that they never got a chance to play like infinite divine machine and god of ink because those planned events never happened.
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>Soda gets power to let him write things in w/o the audience's acceptance via Magane's uso no uso
>Uses this to revive Setsuna by having Meteora materialize it
>Team gov uses the last trick up their sleeve, Sirius, and she fails miserably
>Altair is about to wreak havoc on the creations, but Soda's written in event happens
>Setsuna, revived by Soda's new power, talks to Altair and explains that she should blame her for the hatred of the world, not the world for what it did to Setsuna
>Altair denies this by saying that she changed when she found out the truth and claims she formed the hatred of the world on her own
after some more dialogue...
>Setsuna says she has to go otherwise the world is gonna get fucked up
>Altair instead creates a new universe where both of them aren't contradictions anymore via Holoscopion
>They live happily ever after as gods, nobody else dies by Altair's hands, and the world doesn't end

It's really simple. Only speedwatchers and legitimately retarded people couldn't understand this.

People say this ending is shit because of all the people Altair killed. The only people she killed were other creations and maybe a few people who got stuck in the crossfire. Magane is responsible for the death of bookstore owner-kun but that would have never happened had she not been summoned in the first place. People's buildings got fucked up, but govt will fix that easily to cover up that this actually happened, if they had the funds to waste a bunch of tanks on Altair and this entire event, no worries about that.

>>162077074
>>162077416
It probably got bricked off screen I would imagine, if not we won't see it again anyways

>why didn't Altair just revive Setsuna?
1. it wouldn't solve the problem: the world being a shithole that led to her creators suicide
2. didn't have a holoscopion power like that at the time, as the fanart she was getting didn't warrant her bringing stuff back to life
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>>162077896
Sounds like Homura did you a favor by getting you out of that relationship honestly.
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>>162077896
How can you even recorver?
You got cucked by a girl, A FUCKING GIRL.
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>>162077768
I'm a yurifag and I don't see yuri in this, however, I will say that I don't think it's common for artists to treat their creations like their children, especially in Japan. Creations are dream waifus, even for a female creator.
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>>162077920
Altair is futa?
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>>162074405
Can't even manipulate fate
heh.
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>>162077947
>Maybe if I condense the episode into shitty greentext and post it people will think the episode was actually good
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>>162077982
She can become one.
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>>162077896
Well if she's into crazies than she's probably a crazy herself, and you know you shouldn't stick your dick in crazy.
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>>162077947
>People's buildings got fucked up, but govt will fix that easily to cover up
Very little was damaged before they formed the reality marble, if anything
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>>162077896
>Went so far as to dye her hair black and get a headband.
you're better without her, otherwise you would have woke up one day with your hair dyed pink and your balls on the table
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>>162077982
No she's not.
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>>162077300
It's a science fiction, wuxia revenge story.
It has great action, great plot, great twists, great love story.
Japs swear it's the best thing Urobuchi ever written and in 2ch threads about Nasu Vs Narahara Vs Urobuchi, they always quote Kikokugai.
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>>162077896
>The last time I saw her she told me to kill myself very loudly.
Please continue. Your story makes me feel much better about my own.
>Went so far as to dye her hair black and get a headband.
Like, long-term? I can't believe you found the embodiment of fangirl and she was the one to dump you.
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>>162078007
I'm doing it for the braindead faggots like you who can't follow the already simple explanations the show has for this shit. You should be grateful.
>>>/MAL/
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>>162078070
USO NO USO
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>>162072100

incest yuri is best
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>>162077809
Difference is that Korra was actually popular and there are barely any /u/fags actually defending this. Korra on the otherhand, now that got the /u/ treatment HARD

>>162077844
The same technology that filters everything to make it look animu also adds music, editing, camera shots, zoom ins etc.
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>>162077970
This. Male creators draw porn of their female characters all the time. Parent child relationship my ass.
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So if Magane's powers stay only until she dies, and the only reason fake setsuna exists because of her, does this mean she's going to have to stay alive forever so Altair doesn't come back in a fit of revenge rage again?
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>>162078097
You can't save them anon. At least they'll always form half informed opinions so they won't matter in the end
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>>162078097
>I'll insult him and say he's from MAL. That will surely make me look smarter than him
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>>162078001
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>>162078121
Bookstore owner will not stop being dead. Audience accepted the finale so she's out of the picture
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>>162078121
No because she didn't create the Setsuna character. Also, Altair pulled Setsuna character out of the story into a different world so it's just like when she pulled any other creation into the real world.
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>>162078121
No, because Altair said that she will continue writing about Setsuna, and vice versa. It's like doing 69, but with Holopsicon.
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>>162077947
>I like my endings to be filled with asspulls, morally dodgy characters getting good endings and deus ex rezzie's

T.shit taste
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>>162078121
It would mean everyone she ever killed through lies would revive when she dies. But Altair became Setsuna's writer anyway, so she is safe.
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>>162078121
not necessarily. military uniform hime now has the real setsuna in their own personal universe, they could stop that from happening easily
>>162078097
don't even bother with speedwatchers in these threads anymore, anon
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>>162078236
>"""""""good endings"""""""
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>The new defence of the episode is that was 2deep4u

Incredible

Altairfags truly are cancer
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>>162077809
Neither Korra nor this were shit. They are just mediocre through and through.
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>>162072522
>Magane BS'd a power-up for Soda
>Alice baited Magane into getting involved
Alice saved the world but it wasn't a world worth saving.
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>>162078277
I want to fuck Yumiko.
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>>162078236
>morally dodgy characters getting good endings
I can't understand why people hate this, life isn't fair, so a series with gray morality can perfectly have this kind of endings
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>>162078354
>t. edgelord mcedgemaster
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>>162077947
The issue isn't about understanding, you fucking autist. It's about how anticlimactic the whole show felt by the end. If you can't even see this after having condensing the show and episode then you must be pretty fucking blind or retarded.
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>>162078286
The creators were pretty much hack though, They knew the last season was quite subpar so they just created a controversial end and direct all the talk to the gays. And it fucking works at that.
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>>162078092
We're auto-saging anyway so whatever. I ran into her about a year and a half after she left me. She was with her girlfriend and they were looking around the manga section of a books-a-million in the local mall. I saw them and tried my best to avoid contact, but I got spotted when I was asking an employee about some new arrivals. She was all "What the fuck are you doing here? Go die in a hole you loser. Don't even talk to me. GOD." During this verbal abuse she was clutching the arm of her girlfriend who was visibly confused and trying to calm her down. The employee asked her to leave and she did, but threw a few more insults at me as she left. They did have the new volume of "A Centaur's Life" in stock so it wasn't a total disaster.
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>>162078277
>make a dumb post
>get response explaining why it's dumb
>s-stupid altairfags
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>>162078405
I'm not saying that I like it, but I don't see it as a flaw either
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There is nothing yuri when a mother loves her child.
It's not incest either, it's platonic.
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>>162078274
>>162078354
There is a difference here, because the show bent over backwards with asspulls to get Altair that ending. I'm fine with just a bad person getting a good ending if it's a logical consequence of the story, but a villanous character getting all she ever wanted through asspulls is lazy and shit storytelling.

>>162078444
I wasn't the poster you responded too. Also this episode has logical consistency, it also is full of asspulls and poor storytelling. It's not that hard of a bridge to cross.
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>>162078405
>wholesome yuri ending
>cute chunni getting redeemed
>edgy
stop trying to make this meme a thing, the only edgy ones are who wanted Altair's blood to spill when she did nothing wrong
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>>162078425
>The issue isn't about understanding
Look again at this thread, m8. Plenty of dumbfucks have no clue what happened.
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>5 weeks ago, if you suggested "why can't Shark just uso no uso Altair away" people would call you retarded for not watching the show, and then come up with bullshit excuses over why that can't happen.
>Show is saved by uso no uso'ing Setsuna back into reality, who then talks Altair out of Armageddon'ing the world.
>People still defend this.
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>>162078508
Dumb /u/fag
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>>162078540
There are so many fucking asspulls in this episodes it's honestly hard to keep track
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>>162078277
T. Brainlet.
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>>162078540
>"why can't Shark just uso no uso Altair away"
And she literally still can't.
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>>162078501
>the committee threw everything they have to make Altair go away
>one of the thing they threw was Creation!Setsuna
Seems a logical conclusion to me famalam
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>>162078501
You're really stupid. Altair was a baby loaded up with Setsuna's negative emotions unleashed against the world.
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>W-Why didn't Altair act logically?! She could have just-
have you all just been on here for so long you forgot how emotions work
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>>162078540
The setup was more about Souta than Magane though. All she did was give a vehicle for his asspull.
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>>162078530
Yet the posts whining about the show for being anticlimactic and retarded in its handling of things as opposed to asking and suggesting shit that got explained halfassedly in the show get no replies. Wonder why?
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>>162078540
If it's just uso no uso it would simply end up with deadly train-kun appearing, it works because the Elimination Chamber audience wants a happy yuri ending.
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>>162078607
F-FUCK YOU SHE DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED!
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>>162078425
In case you were unaware my post isn't directed at those who comprehend the show but still have shit taste like you. It's directed at the faggots who keep crying about how the show "doesn't make sense" and how it has "no internal consistency". At least speedwatchers try and understand it instead of dismissing everything as poor writing because their faggot self insert didn't score any pussy of the girl he isolated
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>>162078121
I´m quite sure that her resistance will stop working when she died not becouse her powers wouldn't work, but becouse there won't be anyone to be resistant.
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>>162078686
Soda scored Magane's pussy it doesn't matter that it was her raping him. Do you speedwatch anime or what?
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>>162078686
>shit taste

I also like 21 episodes of exposition followed by an absolutely mediocre conclusion.
>>
I had never heard the term speedwatching before today.
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>>162078607
Coulda had both of them die in each others' arms rather than bullshit some new universe.
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>>162078800
The conclusion was fantastic.
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>>162078580
But she basically did, moron, and the actual way it happened was even more retarded.

>Mamika tries to talk Altair out of being an edgy faggot and be friends and find the beauty in the world
>"HURR NO"
>Setsuna does the same
>World is saved.

We waited two fucking weeks for NOTHING to happen, got disappointing fights, characters whose struggles were in vain, died like dogs and then were forgotten, and then all so that edgebitch could be talked out of being evil. Blitz, too, got over his anguish pretty damn fast and easily. So much for him actually standing up for something in his life, huh? And goes to show that for being a pretty broken, invincible and supremely powerful, all knowing being who could predict and see the future and the govt team's action, Altair was pretty damn fucking retarded if she didn't figure out she could just rewrite everything in the end. You realize how retarded that is? Your climax ended in talking over a character that was the main cause of everything bad in the show into literally rewriting the problems away.

>But Altair didn't have that power at first!

And she probably could've just sat on her ass drinking tea for a week, and it would've resulted in her getting the same power anyways because "she's that popular"
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>>162078809
Welcome to your first live watch thread, anon.
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>>162078809
Say it 10 times and watch your shit taste be justified

>>162078819
>meta garbage via exposition and no payoff for the finale fight
>fantastic

What are you a fucking speedwatcher?
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>>162078686
>>162078819

>but still have shit taste like you.

Confirmed blind or retarded then if you think this was in any way a decent ending.
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>>162078809
It's a recent phenomenon caused by the proliferation of cheap internet bandwidth. Some people feel that they are obliged to watch every anime ever released. Those are dumb people.
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>>162078847
>Altair was pretty damn fucking retarded if she didn't figure out she could just rewrite everything in the end.
We can't work with this for a conversation.
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>>162078809
I happen to have a red laptop, so I naturally watch anime 3 times the normal speed.
In the span of 20 minutes I can squeeze in 3 episodes, it really revolutionized my watching experience.
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>>162074300
>>even Goddess Sirius-usurper Altair with public acceptance and full power holopsicon is unable to even just contain train

Madara Uchiha Altair copypasta when?
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>>162078909
Probably because it's absolutely inexcusable to have your audience sit through that and accept it. Yes, I agree.
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Why was the crowd cheering at the ending? What they saw was some literally who jumping into train and Altair acting out of character. They shouldn't be happy with that. Realistically, they would send death threats to Onishi.
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>>162078943
Just know that you can't convince anyone other than yourself with that.
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>>162078847
You might try watching the show, m8.
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>>162078847
>girl who knows nothing about situation talks like she does and can do shit about it
>Altair gets mad
>the only person Altair cares about in the world and who understands Altair best talks to her and her being there gives Altair an opportunity to have something she wants more than vengeance
>Altair is saved
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>>162073175
>Mr. Toshiaki! You will admit me the saetsuna I made! What?
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>>162078950
Because the audience would forego the logic that was presented to them for a happy ending for the BAD GUY.
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>you will never live with your OC waifu in another reality/dimension and create a universe together

why live?
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>altair is gay
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>>162078767
reread my post, didn't talk about magane at all, sharkfag
>>162078800
then you should've stopped watching. these threads have been talking about the first episode's monologue for days, and all it took was some of your attention to figure out who the fuck was going to have the miracle at the end.
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>>162078950
In universe Setsuna is just a literally who deviantartist who plagiarized and then killed herself. The audience should have no fucking idea who they are or if they did, her being made into a fucking government sponsored anime probably wouldn't be met with acceptance.

Unless the government side actually promoted her to bring up acceptance. Which would be fucking hilarous
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>>162078997
Probably for a heaven that allows for these shenanigans
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>>162073175
>It is becoming doubtful whether Hiroe is really a professional writings
absolute gold
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>>162078997
The only OC I created would hate me, and rightfully so.

I killed all her friends.
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>>162079008
> figure out who the fuck was going to have the miracle at the end.

"I like shit endings because they were vaguely foreshadowed."

>>162079082
W-what did you do anon?
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>"In the end, you the audience were the real re:creators."
>Altair looking straight at the camera
>"Zoom out."
>Zooms out to a shot of aoki drawing the storyboards
>Fast montage of the animation staff smiling faces with some faces covered in black bars

Fuck, is this really how they chose to end the show?
Fucking dropped. WAOTS.
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>>162079008
> these threads have been talking about the first episode's monologue for days
Pretty much. After confirmation that Altair was the MC the ending was clear.
>>162046550
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>>162079137
>Looks like we were the re:creators the whole time
>end credits
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>>162078087
>great love story
Can agree with everything else except this, it's not really much of a love story.
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>>162078967
Not an argument moron. Haven't even addressed any of the issue so far. Enjoy guzzling Aoki's cum.

>>162078970
You too, cumguzzler

>>162078980
I realize the significance. It's still anticlimactic as fuck for an ending. And seeing how the show was jerking itself off about giving audiences what it wants, well fuck, ain't that the exact opposite of the shit they've been pushing in the last few weeks?
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>One more episode left
I really wonder what it will be about
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>>162079154
That's clear in retrospect, but she was straight absent for large parts of the middle.
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>>162079107
I created a character who was used to be a soft moeblob that then became a hardened combat veteran after recovering from the trauma of three of her friends sacrificing themselves for her. To this day, she still carries their weapons.

Her happiest most cherished memories were merely part of her character description, created because they needed to be crushed. If she became a real person she'd hate me, and be entirely right to do so. I only did it so she'd be more interesting.
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>>162079107
see
>>162079154

don't blame the show for your inability to pay attention
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>>162079231
>Not an argument moron. Haven't even addressed any of the issue so far. Enjoy guzzling Aoki's cum.
You convinced yourself with the false notion that she could override the story with bringing Setsuna herself in without having to go all through this. Simply put, either rewatch until your opinions are corrected or know that people are aware of the mistake you make in your post.
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>>162079216
Well it's a story of how forbidden love can destroy everything. It's a pretty good love story in my opinion.
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>>162079250
Probably just an epilogue episode. The creations will disappear/go home and then there will be a timeskip with Soda now being a professional creator.
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>>162079282
My god what is it with you.

I accept that the show had foreshadowing for its shit ending, I'm still calling it shit. Are you just rocking back in a ball typing speedwatcher at everyone who questions your y/u/rishit ending?
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Were we supposed to sympathize with Altair? She clearly took joy in killing people and the most human moment we witnessed before this episode was her spergining out and killing Mamika.
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>>162079326
Valid, I guess.
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>>162079373
Start by thinking of her as a character with a set description
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>>162079273
It's a good thing that fiction isn't a reality, or we couldn't write anything without it being ethically dubious/ R-right?!

>>162079373
I guess? Sota stopped being the MC some time ago, but Altair never got the proper screentime to be sympathetic.
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>>162079373
She didn't kill any people.
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>>162079373
I really don't know what Hiroe was going for since he said Soda/Altair/Setsuna were the core of the story, but Soda was irrelevant for a large bulk of the show, Altair barely interacted with anyone and didn't interact with Soda once and Setsuna appeared in two episodes.
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>>162079325
See, that would fly if Altair wasn't broken as fuck who knew Alice and Blitz would betray her, AND reasonably handle Blitz's departure from the team and hold no real contempt for him. I can get Mamika being too straightfowards, but if Blitz and her could rationally talk things through and understand each other, it's pointless, ESPECIALLY since she would get her rewrite powers regardless of Govt Team's actions
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So Setsuna created Altair because no one defended her and she wants someone to do so? To rail against the world?
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>>162079272
Probably because it's a show about creations interacting with creators so clearly Altair couldn't participate until the very end. What they should have done was be more concise in the set up explanations to give more time to some neglected creation and creators relationship, like Yuya, Rui and possibly Mamika (even if she was designed by committee).
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>>162073175
Please nerf
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I really wish this anime would have stuck with its original idea of some bullshit bringing creations to life and them going after their creators to change their worlds. Sota and Altair could have been a 3rd party.

Instead we got "Today, in a very special anime..."
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>>162079525
Her character song gives her a backstory that mirrors the personal issues she is going through, in a fantastical sense.
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>>162079450
Yes, that's the biggest plot hole of Re:Creators. We can write fiction because we don't have to justify doing terrible things to the people in them, because they're fictional.

That's a problem I've always had with the series. It doesn't handle creators dealing with discovering their series, almost all of which are filled with avoidable death, actually exist. I wouldn't be exited to meet a protagonist of my death game story if I was an author, I'd be mortified that they exist and they went through all that, because what about all the people I killed off to make an entertaining and engaging story? Am I responsible for those deaths? Should I never create a story again? But then, I brought those people to life in the first place, right?

If you think about it, it's an extremely fucked up case of sudden godhood. The only way to prevent these people from dying is write a series where none of them die, but if the readers don't accept that, they won't live in the first place. It's an actually nuanced moral problem with no right answer.

They never explore this.
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>>162079359
Glad that you accept it. I'm not glad that dumb trainwreck posters like you are still in these threads complaining that things didn't go your way.
>he complains about /u/
You have to go back, self insert faggot. Only thing you're doing is reinforcing your shit taste in everyone's eyes.
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>>162079645
SOL is the answer
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>>162079645
>A creator is fate with a personality
Wise words from Yuuya. They never intended to hurt anybody with their words
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Aoki really likes his homo couples huh.
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>>162079547
Personally I'd have give Sota some interaction with Altair (which I still can't believe didn't happen), and maybe give Altair either some set things to do or something she wanted to accomplish. Having her do nothing for large parts of the show was boring and didn't really build her up as a threat until the very end, when they declared that now she was very powerful but they didn't show that development.

>>162079645
This is one of the many aspects of Re:creators they didn't explore. Hell even the creations reactions when finding out they were fictional is uniform and boring as hell.

This show is mostly meta, but it marketed itself and tried to be at times character driven, to the detriment of both.
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>>162079645
Magane killed her creator though, Blitz almost did as well, Charon also bet on the possibility of abruptly ending all conflicts and Meteora would have watched the world burn if her god didn't even love her world. The heroes summoned were otherwise all heroes and good guys, who wouldn't really kill someone who just wrote a story.
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So the moral of this story is the Magane's author, a book store keeper, and a bunch of unnamed people are dead, and billions of tax payer dollars wasted all because Soda didn't have the balls to man up and a friend to Setsuna when she was being cyber-bullied. Sasusage Hiroe & Aoki-sama. Nippon Banzai
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>>162079645
They dropped this entire concept to instead focus on a screeching autist and her retarded dead lesbian creator. Damn shame. Honestly, Altair should have just been in the background. Have her story actually take a backseat to the shit going on. Have her motivation literally just be "I want to give creations the chance to change their worlds" instead of "REEEEEEEEEEEE SETSUNA I'M GOING TO DESTROY THE WORLD"
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>>162079757
She killed a magical girl, deleted a weapon and copied gigas machina. Her power was explained as far back as 12th episode. Meteora called any hope of a victory a miracle at 15.
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>>162079828
Somewhere out there a failed artist is being propped up o kill up to 60 million people. Don't underestimate failures
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>>162079734
Yes of course that's the case BEFORE they know about it, but know they do. Knowledge is power and with power comes responsibility. Writers don't actually struggle with the mental block of taking a human life when they kill of a character.

But now they know that every time they do, they're actually killing a person. You can't expect them to act the same when they realize that not only is their world real, but it is entirely under their control, and they can change it based on what they write.

>>162079757
Yeah, there weren't many identity issues among the creations, they just kind of rolled with it. Fucking hell, if I had been through hell and found out it was because I was a popular fictional character I would not just accept it and moved on.

>>162079825
You're missing my entire point. the CREATOR reactions were entirely lacking.

It's not about the creators killing them for their actions, it's about them feeling guilty for murdering actual people.
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>>162079828
If that's how you put it then there's no helping you.
>>
What a great ending!
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>>162079851
There's a gap between that and 'god' tier. Either way she was mostly reactive and didn't feel outwardly threatening enough for me to actually care when she was onscreen. Although I guess that could be because I barely cared about the other characters so when they died I didn't care either.
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>>162079847
Pretty sure it wasn't that way in the first place, unless they made the story as they went with the show, which can't be the case due to the nature of anime production (unless they had an insane budget for this). Altair was just using that as a motivation initially for the creations she brought into the world to join her side, but her ulterior motive was clear from her encounters with soda
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>>162079932
So what your saying is that we should subside all authors so they don't kill us all?

>>162079968
Lighten up you cretin
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>>162079757
>maybe give Altair either some set things to do or something she wanted to accomplish
Altair wanted to accomplish her vengeance. But it makes sense that she doesn't fully understand a world that is not hers, which is why she was trying a lot of things to test this universe. And as a chuuni she probably only does things in grand ways, and because of that she didn't took the straightforward murder spree route in which she wouldn't really need to summon anyone in the first place.
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>>162079619
Now I am curious re the translation of that song.
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>>162079661
Not him, but this is why everyone thinks you /u/fags are insufferable.
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>>162079985
She really only hurt Yuuya in offense. She even waited for Sho to attack to destroy bayard
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>>162079734
If creators were an unstoppable force of nature or actual Gods it would make sense, but it just rings hollow when you have at least one chance to do something about your fate, especially when you discover you were made for entertainment and not some higher reason. Sure, there's approval to consider, but the people in R;C's world eat up fucking anything anyway.
Hell, Yuya actually managed to change his fate a little bit by spoiling his story to the public and avoiding further conflict with Sho by doing so.
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>>162079941
>But now they know that every time they do, they're actually killing a person. You can't expect them to act the same when they realize that not only is their world real, but it is entirely under their control, and they can change it based on what they write.
Oh boy I wonder what will they address this coming episode
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>>162080069
They didn't publish yet the full version.

月明かりが 世界を照らして The moonlight illuminates the world
耳鳴りは 鳴り止まないまま This ringing in my ears will not stop
生まれ落ちた 言葉も知らずに Born knowing no words
溢れ出した 音を奏でるだけで Only playing this overflowing melody
いっそ 消してしまっていいと思えたの? Don't you think it'd be nice to just erase it?

(What are you looking for?)
(You cannot escape from here.)

堕ちる理想郷(エデン) Collapsing Eden
夢見たものは空想で What I dreamt of was but a fantasy
紡いだ音も脆く崩れ去った Even the melodies I spun crumbled away
枯れた声で 叫んでみても 応えない My voice hoarse from screaming, still no answer to be heard
暮れる世界に 誰かの面影を 探しているの Searching for a familiar face in this ending world

here with my damaged ideals and never turn around
the sky begins to fall apart into fragments
As I close my eyes and try to find the place
in my dreams
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>>162080153
They are mostly getting what they want.
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>>162072155
So Soda will spend his life writing her and Altair's story?

That is a worthy life goal.
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>>162080112
Bayard is only out when he attacks, numbskull.

>>162080162
If you think they're going to fucking deliver on that in a satisfactory manner, unlike any other interesting possibility the concept of Re:Creators provides, you're fucking kidding yourself.
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>>162079490
Pretty much this. not to mention all the mismanaged interactions and reactions, the ending was disappointing.
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>>162080032
Oh yeah I accept that in terms of logical consistency Altair not doing things was in her interest.

I'm saying that the way it was written was boring, and that character development involves more then just telling your audience she is powerful, you have to actually show her doing things. Which the show mostly didn't.

>>162080112
This is the problem with god-tier power levels, either it just becomes boring because they steamrolling everything, or it becomes boring because they keep having the problem of when to deploy their power. IE either they never do it and you wonder why (usually answered through exposition and poor writing) or they do it only on occasions when its convenient to the plot and not to that characters end goals.
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>>162080210
No.
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>>162080210
More like Altair and Setsuna will write their own story.
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>>162080215
She could also kill sho himself
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>>162072216
It finally make sense now.
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>>162072328
>>what if the train killed altair and now she's in her afterlife

Remember the reaction to the end of incest anime with the white haired shota?
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>>162072507
Nigger, they said outright that Soda's idea was retarded as fuck and he should go attend school instead of beta orbiting at the stadium.
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>>162079757
I still have no idea who i should have been rooting for. Selesia and Meteora were the closest things to main characters the series had, yet they did fuck all at the end.

Souta should have been more prevalent in the story, having one off moments with Altair. That would be interesting to get that perspective, as we now know Altair was made for Souta by Setsuna.
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>>162080178
Thanks good anon!
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>>162080072
It's a better ending than having Soda kun "save" Setsuna and somehow kill Altair by himself with a different asspull. He didn't atone for what he did to Setsuna until he admitted it to the others. He pushed it out of his mind and tried to ignore her because he was too afraid to be a good friend and stand up for her. A person like that doesn't deserve forgiveness from anyone, much less being with Setsuna in the end. The best thing he did was admit it to the others, but even then casualties and damage could've been avoided if he had spoken up earlier.

This isn't even me being /u/ at the moment, it's just me knowing that a shitty person like Soda had no place being a hero in the end when he helped contribute to the problem to begin with, and then prolonged the conflict because he was still too afraid to admit his wrongdoing.
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>>162080529
While I agree that Sota is trash, that doesn't suddenly make this ending any good.
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Are they ever gonna explain why 1 girls suicide triggered this whole mess of reality getting fucked over?
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>>162080529
Not only that he didn't get a conventionally good ending on his side since Setsuna is still practically gone forever only on a more positive note. He is only left to learn to manage to deal with his shit and reflect on the events and their consequences.
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>>162080632
Because _______
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Matsubara and Selesia's relationship was the best part of the show. Shame it amounted to absolutely nothing after the twitter scene.
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>>162080762
Matsubara should have been the MC.
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>>162080762
It all culminated to the hospital scene. After that it was 19
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>>162080762
I thought he would be the one to leave the room to cry towards the end.
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