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Her smile and optimism: gone
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>>162045647
>optimism
She looks pretty eager to get her arm ripped apart.

Also why didnt Reg finish the job? It's already lost, releasing the torniquette will make things worse because of hypoxia-reperfusion syndrome.
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Cute anime
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>>162045791
Fucking Reg killed her with retarded caveman medicine. Just imagine the extra blood lost from that twisted arm
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>>162045647
>>162045791
I want to huge her and drink his virgin blood.
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this episode was fucking brutal, how am I supposed to sleep now
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>>162045647
>what is catalogue
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>>162045647
Jesus Christ
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I WAS WARNED

WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN

HOLY SHIT
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https://strawpoll.com/rw4w73kd
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>>162045647
I knew they weren't going to kill her
But still I did think "holy shit, they ARE going to kill her"
You have no idea how much i suffered
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>>162045647
DELETE THIS!!!
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I only watch this show because of bonedude.

We're getting S2/movie right?
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So this is menstruation.
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>>162047698
>Going up the 4th layer means bleeding every orifice in your body

Does that mean that would you bleed from your dick too?
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>>162047754
Yes
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If you defend anime made for people who want to fuck children

then you also have to defend this anime, which is made for people who want to watch children be tortured and mutilated.
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>>162045647
Did you like Nanachi's voice?
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>>162047871
Yes.
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>>162045647
>her hand and sanity: Gone
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>>162047012
>https://strawpoll.com/rw4w73kd
>when you want to give the nanachi option,
>but the show delivered.
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>>162047685
>only watching for groanzone
I hope he shows up for 5 seconds in episode 13 and the staff decides it's not worth it to animate more.
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Reminder to not respond to shitposters
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>>162047584
>That cut off scream at the end
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>>162048071
Did you just arrive here from Reddit and can't figure out why people engage with different opinions, rather than down voting them until they're deleted?
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>>162047698
>she was bleeding from her vagina
>was it the first time or has she started her cycle yet?
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>>162047871
Nnaaah.
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This anime is made for people who are literally fucked in the head, it's child guro masturbation bait.

The suffering plays no role in the story, it only exists for the mentally ill sociopath viewer to enjoy.
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>>162045647
Relax she's fine
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>>162047871
Nanachi fits right in with Sucy and Haruko.
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>>162048124
Nice projecting buddy
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>>162047837
Why? nobody cares about violence in cartoons.
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>>162047698
Ebola actually
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>>162047837
>implying the author isn't the most overt lolishotacon in the industry as well
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>>162048190
>Break me, reg!
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>>162048288
I think I got that reference.
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>>162047837
>9 episodes of "nothing happening" according to the experts here
>1 episode of violence
>well i guess this anime was made solely to depict violence
how do people even live with themselves
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<<162048175
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>>162048175
>It plays no role
The abyss is literally hell, and here comes two kids wanting to reach the bottom of it.

What the fuck did you think was going to happen?
This scene just shows how merciless the abyss is.
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Is it dead?
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>>162046661
>>162047698
"Oh, no. I break Riko hymen. I'm so fucked up."
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>>162047837
>Wanting to hug a cute loli
>Wanting to break her arm while she Crys tears of blood and nearly died

>Being even remotely similar
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>>162045647
There are people in this thread right now that have jacked off to this.
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I find it hard to accept people who are bitching about violence and children suffering in this anime aren't from tumblr or reddit. That's million times more revolting than the actual violence scenes in MiA
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>>162048443
I don't believe
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>>162048288
No more helping hands from Ozen.

Shit is about gets real!
The hand holding ends after this episode!
The kid gloves are about to come off!

I'm just kidding, she'll be fine. Gotta hand it to her though, she's been through a lot.

Sorry if some of these pun are a little ham handed.
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>>162048401
>I only watch shows that picture my fantasies, so anyone who watches dark shows must also be furiously masturbating
There is zero suspense in this story of diving into hell without knowing that it can go terribly irreversibly wrong in seconds.
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>>162048514
If anons from the previous threads are to be believed reddit actually liked this episode a lot.
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>>162048514
Nah, it's just that it's easy to bait by calling things edgy
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>>162048443
and it was alright
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>>162045647
The last episode smelled sooo good, anons..
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>Riko clutches her mother's white whistle to help her bear through the pain
that's a pretty emotional detail that's very easy to miss.
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>>162047837
>if you defend making love, you must also defend murdering people and torturing them.
You have brain worms, don't you?
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>>162048929
I completely missed that, thanks for pointing it out. Good detail
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>>162048971
fucking children is violence
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>>162049322
I like this kind of violence
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>a Hollow
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>>162045776
because she stopped breathing. If I'm remembering correctly the botched amputation cripples her for the rest of the manga because he cut some nerves
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>>162047560
For a second I thought they'd pull a surprise anime-only ending where Riko is dead and Reg goes to the bottom himself to find mom.
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There's actually zero difference between edge and wholesomeness. You imbecile, you fucking moron.
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The violence is pretty brutal but the story would be nowhere near as interesting if the consequences of going into the abyss weren't made clear.
Bondrewd is going to make people flip their shit at this rate
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Made in Abyss is AOTS or maybe, dare I say, AOTY?
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>>162049356
The actual meaning of the word is something like "a shadow of one's former self" or "a ruined person". "Hollow" is not to far from the original meaning
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Why didn't you guys tell me this was going to be so edgy?
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>>162049484
It was already agreed that it was AOTS a long time ago, but it's probably ascended to AOTY because of this episode.
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>>162048514
Reddit loved this episode. You can read the thread for yourself; it's not like you'll go blind. So far I'm seeing a lot more reddit-hunting anons bitching about this episode than actual bitching on reddit.
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>>162049322
What about children fucking each other?
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>>162049548
>In one of the first episodes while explaining the abyss, they said that you would bleed out of every orifice upon ascending the 4th layer
>They said they plan to go to the bottom layer
>"Why didn't you tell me she was going to eventually bleed out of every orifice?"
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>>162048514
But reddit likes it?
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>>162049548
You didn't pay attention
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>>162048929
If Tsukushi had planned the chronology out a little better toward the beginning, I'm pretty sure that whistle would have been Torka.
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>HS didn't put in endcards
>they still keep the 1-minute long ass amazon credits

https://imgur.com/a/sU6Yg
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>>162049561
According to the thread we had where everyone voted 3 series, MiA didn't even hit top 3. Aho Girl was the most commonly cited series, followed by PriPri.
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>>162049491
No, I know. It's just being so familiar with End Result, then just getting used to Narehate, and now this. Makes my skin crawl.
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>>162049561
>Thinking a series most people think is too boring to be AotS ascended to AotY because of an episode of pure edge
Delusional.
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>>162045647

Reminder that we don't know if Nanachi is a boy or girl but we know she smells nice
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>>162049769
Aho Girl is only ironically meme liked, no one can point out one noteworthy artistic achievement from that reddit show.
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>>162049837
What's "reddit"?
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>>162045647

Talk about having a bad day.
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>>162049769
That's because this episode hadn't happened. MIA had a strong start and looks set to have a strong finish; the interlude just gave other series some time to shine.
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>>162049837
>ironically meme
>reddit show
Anon, your words are nonsense. Come back when you're ready to speak English.
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>>162049837
It's my second favorite series behind MGG. I don't "ironically" like things because I'm not a child and that doesn't make sense to me. It's just funny and I gauge whether or not I like something by how much it entertains me.
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>>162049888
Really? Everyone I know hated this episode including me. Re:Zero levels of edge.
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>I hope Riko is alright, she still hasn't sent any messages...
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>>162047698

I can only imagine the level of panic he achieved during this scene.
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>>162049888
>MIA had a strong start
bait
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Reminder any post with terms like "boring" or "edge" or any synonymous term is shitposting and should just be ignored.
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>>162049810
Indeed, Nanachi gender is not confirmed, but it seems in the same way our translation anon rolled with Female, Amazon is doing the same
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Is this shit selling or not? That's all that matters.
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>>162049987
>anyone who has an opinion different than my own is a shitposter
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>>162049491
Made in Abyss is very soulslike amirite xD :^)
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Did Torka become Lyza's whistle? I don't remember if Lyza was a White Whistle yet when she got engaged to Torka.
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>>162049769
>/a/poll
>Expecting it to actually represent what's good this season
Mia is probably one of the best anime for the past two season honestly. Not even counting how brutal it is, just the great atmosphere and art design.
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>>162049987
Define "edge"
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>>162049916
Sounds like you don't know many people.
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>>162050030
I never suggested /a/ polls reflected quality, I was simply pointing out that "it was agreed that it was AotS" isn't really true.
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>>162049991
>That silly font
What the fuck, this is not a childrens show. They ruined the whole thing
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>>162049932
I genuinely feel sad for those kids, Riko really didn’t give a fuck about sending them a letter until she was in a layer were sending such thing was almost impossible
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>>162049769
>polling AOTS before the season is even done

Absolute retardation. This place has fallen very low past its prime.
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>>162050030
>brutality = quality
I'll never understand this concept.
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>>162050033
I think that's his point
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>>162050033
Why? Then people wouldn't be able to bolster their valuable opinions with it.
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>>162050080
Don't attack me, I'm responding to the person who said that we decided it was AotS ages ago apparently.
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>>162048822
Anon...
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>>162050014
Any post like this one is also shitposting. It's a worn out tactic done with countless shows.
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>>162049916
>Re:Zero levels of edge
Did we watch the same show?
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>>162049916
>The best Re: Zero episode
>The best MiA episode
>Friends hated them both

I think you need to get better friends, or stop being hipsters
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>>162050123
So we should alter our discussion to abide specifically by your whims?
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>>162049932
>>162050075
Reg did at least let them know they're still alive, as long as the delver he saved makes it back up.

>>162050029
She already had it when she married him.
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>>162050140
Just adults, really.
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>>162050075
She truly is the worst, she doesn't deserve them.
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>>162049862
The kind of people who think a comedy is good because it's "funny" aka idiots
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>>162050116
>Posting the honey dispenser
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>>162050205
What? Is comedy bad when it's funny? I don't get it.
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>>162049991
Why would he go topless if he is a girl?
Checkmate.
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>>162050189
Only children care about acting "adult."
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>>162050205
How else could you possibly measure a comedy's quality?
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>>162050075
And they didn't even send Maruruk anything.
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>>162050233
Laughing at a dumb show with dumb easy humor doesn't make it good.
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>>162050234
Crotch tits
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>>162050236
No, I mean, we're literally grown ass men 25+ and it's hard for us to enjoy these series that devolve into pointless suffering porn.
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>>162050205
>Comedy show it's funny therefore it's bad
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> I don't like violence done to children so that means I have the moral highground and whatever I say goes
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>>162050189
>Adults
>Doesn't realize that MiA isn't edgy in the slightest

It's called reality. What would happen if you sent two practically helpless kids into hell.
Them nearly dying isn't edgy, it's expected.
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Even though the episode 1 was unarguably great, later episodes are not doing very well in my opinion.
I think the anime is so much faithful to the original manga that it looks like a merely tracing of its original.
Since anime has its own best way to be presented, merely tracing is not enough as an anime adaptation.
For example, the scenes of anime could be dull/awkward/slow pacing if they speak as the same amount of lines as those in the manga.
In this episode, I think the characters are too much speaking even though they are at the front of the super dangerous creature, which crippled the tense of the battle.
Over all, I think the anime director could have explored much more about what's the best way to translate the manga to the anime.
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>>162050274
If a comedy makes me laugh a lot, it's a good comedy. If entertainment entertains me, it's good. What oxymoronic brain process are you applying to this shit?
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Somebody care to explain to me what it means to be "edgy" and why episode 10 counts as such?
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>>162050288
>pointless
fuck off
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>>162050181
Ah, thanks.
I've been thinking a lot about the White Whistles and how they were made.
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>>162050315
But I'd rather see fantasy adventure than ten minutes of boring uncomfortable blood and crying. It's not interesting, entertaining, or fun. Just weird and gross.
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>>162050298
Who's talking about morality?
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>>162050234
you dont need a top if there are no boobs to hide
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I knew the shitposters would rev up their engines after this episode. Popular show gets popular episode, and the faggots immediately come straight out of the woodwork like rats.

Every fucking season. Fuck all of you so much.
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>>162050386
Can't have fun and happiness without some pain and suffering to compare it to.
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>>162050343
it's a non argument used to shitpost about the show when the Abyss was repeatedly described as an uncaring and dangerous place. People think putting innocent characters in dangerous situations is "edgy" for whatever reason because there is conflict
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>>162050252
Directing, production quality, structure, rhythm, stylistic inventiveness, intelligence, actual meaning. All of which something like Nichijou has without necessarily being funny.
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>>162050465
Wait till Mitty, this is nothing
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>>162050386
Why do you feel that every show has to cater to your preferences anon?
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>>162050509
S O U P
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>>162050421

But is "she" was "blessed" wouldn't the abyss have given "her" titties?

Clearly, the bunny is a man-beast, not a girl-beast.
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the stinky reddit smell is strong since last ep
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>>162050234
Faputa, blessed Mitty and Prushka the three are topless and with noticeable boobs, Blessed Narehate always go topless
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Anytime someone uses the word Reddit,Boring, or Edge they should be banned immediately
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Do people really think that this series is edgy because of this episode? I mean, people haven't even died yet. I'm pretty sure if Riko wasn't 12 everyone would be hunky-dory. What's the point of an adventure anime/manga if your MC doesn't suffer from her ill-prepared-ness and stagger here and there?
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>>162045647
did she died?
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Post music for reading manga please
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>>162047754
And your butt hole
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So tell me, anons, is Nanachi is a male or female?
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>>162050486
I've had plenty of that growing up, not really what I look for in fiction nor what I wanted from this series or any series for that matter. The setting is really nice and cozy, too bad it's stained with this pain porn, and from what I hear it'll only happen more.

>>162050503
Nichijou just has really good animation, it's jokes are pretty hit and miss and yuuko needs to shut up more often. I still liked nichijou and consider it a good anime, but there are a lot of comedies I like more because they entertained me more, such as kill me baby or excel saga.
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>>162050536
I don't. I'm just discussing the latest episode of MiA in an MiA thread.
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>>162050667
Yes.
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>>162047754
Every orifice means every orifice, numbnuts.
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>>162050613
Sounds like someone's had a rough day.
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>>162050667
doesn't matter when Nanachi ain't human anymore
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>>162050630
"edgy" is a meme now and shouldn't be taken seriously
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God I thought we were through the "nanachi is a boy" meme weeks ago, but I guess shitposters can't help themselves
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>>162050667
>So tell me, anons, is Nanachi is a male or female?
Her name is top right. Look two lines below that.
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>>162050386
Safe and happy adventures have zero suspense, which I find important for getting invested in the fates of the characters. That's really all there is to it. It's especially important in a setting with monsters, if no one is in any real danger I can't find myself giving a shit about anything. The potential for bad things to happen to characters I want to make it keeps me on my toes and invested.
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>people calling MiA avantgarde and forward-thinking
i dunno man
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>>162050386
>ten minutes of boring uncomfortable blood and crying
>It's not interesting, entertaining, or fun
>Just weird and gross
Fucking hate it when those weird innocent kids shriek with grief as their friends die in their arms while they're powerless to stop it and wracked with guilt over how they could have prevented it; BO-RING, no fun at all.
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>>162050757
There's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it and ten minutes straight of blood coming out of a kid's orifices is a wrong way.
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>>162050728
You think that's bad? We've had the "Tails is a girl" meme for 25 years.
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New manga chapter fucking when???
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>>162050830
yeah, it is boring, and I wait impatiently for that kind of stuff to end because children in pain isn't inherently entertaining to me.
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>>162050833
I think the author knows best anon
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>>162050583
Unfortunately, it appears as though MiA has become the "wtf anime" show of the season. I'm even overhearing people talk about it in real life. The gore and loli content keeps the normies out, but the shock value draws in redditors like moths to a flame.
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>>162049548
>sees a series about going through the most dangerous place in the world
>states multiple times that it is not a place for kids
>get surprised when kids get almost kill
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>>162050869
How is gore not shock value? Your sentence makes no sense
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>>162050724
It's always been an unserious adjective.
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>>162050728
No, pretty much everything is ruined now. Get ready for the return of NANACHI IS A BOY HE USES GENDER NEUTRAL PRONOUNS as well as all of the crybaby secondaries complaining about edginess and falseflaggers also complaining about edginess because they know twenty complete idiots will reply to them every time they do. It's exactly what we were afraid we'd have to deal with back in the manga translation threads, except I think this might somehow be worse. That last thread was almost nothing but pure off-topic discussion and shitposting, that it wasn't nuked halfway through shows how little conviction our mods had when they made that sticky. If ever there was a time to follow through on it it's now.
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>>162050894
That's because you don't understand English, ESL-kun.
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>>162050749
girl(probably)
you can't fool me
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>>162045647
This episode made me faint.

I was watching it with a friend, over Discord. In the bit where reg picks up the rock to go break Riko's arm, he tells me to pause the video. COmes back about 3 minutes later, saying that he might have to skip this episode cause he was feeling unwell.

I wasn't feeling anything so I told him I'd tell him when the "gore" ends. So I did. We resumed watched, the bunny girl shows up, then suddenly I start feeling really fucking dizzy, I tell him to pause the video and I rest my head against my G27 steering wheel.

Next thing I know I'm getting up from the floor, huge pain in the left side of my face, lip bleeding.

I dunno why, I usually have no problem with looking at gone, in movies or actual IRL photos, so I dunno why an anime of all things did it to me. Maybe it's because I haven't eaten anything in a bunch of hours.
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>>162050749
Can't read moon, but am I right in assuming it's saying Nanachi's sex is unknown?
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>>162050864
>>162050879
I'm not surprised, just disappointed. Most fantasy adventure series don't have edge sequences like this for a reason, most people don't like them. I'm one of those people.
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>>162050763
Oh Jesus Christ, why does every half decent anime attract idiots like this?
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>>162050970
>>162050937
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>>162050940
This has to be pasted from reddit, I refuse to believe otherwise
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>>162050681
A hole in the earth full of monsters. That's where you were expecting "comfy"? Surely you jest.
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>>162050977
Well then drop it. No one cares if you like 'gore' or not
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>>162050977
>we
you have to go back
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>>162050667
Yes
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I don't understand why people get so angry about "edgy" or gore moments. It's a cartoon, if you don't like it just watch something else
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>>162050994
I dunno what to tell you, man. I know it's not even that graphic.
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can someone post the page with the bunny smelling good

i need it for reasons
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where were all you people complaining about child violence when Black Bullet was airing? At least 20+ loli died in this show
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>>162050897
And yet everyone has been trying to use it in a serious way all day. I knew this episode was going to bring out the worst in us.
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>>162050833
Being unprepared to deal with this situation was part of the point. I also think you're overvaluing animated ketchup. The ear gush was a little gross, while the break and cut was more uncomfortable but I was more focused on crying Reg stepping up to the responsibility of doing something incredibly brutal with life or death of his friend hinging on his ability to carry through. I thought in that sense it was carried out very well. Maybe I have a stronger stomach for suffering.
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>>162050860
>children in pain isn't inherently entertaining to me
>implying the children being in pain is the entertaining part
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>>162051067
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>>162051076
The webm of the blind bitch is like ten guaranteed replies almost every time.
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>>162051076
Black Bullet wasn't getting watched much by redditors. This show has an increasing contingent who do.
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>>162050977
>Most fantasy adventure series don't
Because they're trash

>I'm one of those people.
The fuck off lol
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>>162051116
is this from the manga or a fanart
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>>162051116
thanks
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>>162051140
IIRC Manga
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>>162051140
Official.
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When do Reg and the bun start having children?
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>>162051100
My stomach is fine, it's literally just boring and lame. Would have been fine if covered in thirty seconds or so.

>>162051005
>>162051038
>>162051125
So hostile to contrary opinions. Calm down.
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>>162051078
Nah, the only way people use it in a serious manner is to troll. The other way is by misunderstanding the meaning of the word
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>>162050940
Anon, you're such a good person. You were bearing part of the curse for her!
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>>162051158
>>162051166
so that rabbit canonically has an irresistible smelling asshole (base of the tail)? is that really necessary to the story?
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>>162048443
>Bunny girl: Now kiss her slower.
It felt like the beginning of a very, very weird doujin.
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>>162050869
>the gore and loli content keeps the normies out
>but the shock value draws in the normies like moths to a flame
?
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mfw this entire episode, the voice acting made it a lot more grim, felt actual discomfort
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>>162050940
>I rest my head against my G27 steering wheel.
Laughed.
That's weak. I have passed out from narrated gore before, and this episode only made me feel mildly uncomfortable.
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>>162051182
>hostile
if you don't like it then drop it
You aren't going to like this because it has gore from now on

>>162051208
Blessed Narehate smell good.
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>>162051208
Yes, it gives Reg a boner when he's going berserk and wakes him up
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>>162051208
It's not part of the story, it's just a bonus page.
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what does Mitty sound like?
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>>162050940
wow anon
I can deal with guts and blood fine but I can't stand when you see muscle and nerves
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>>162051182
Key moments must be given proper attention. This is where the actual reality of danger becomes more than just cautionary tales. It is important
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>>162051182
Thirty seconds is mad-man pace, what are you thinking? That's not even long enough for Reg to hesitate at what he has to do, if the ascent had been cut entirely.
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reddit loves it

guess this shit is normie bait now
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>>162051282
Like the gurgles in Saya no Uta
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Thursday and Friday threads are the fucking worst. On Thursday it's people complaining that they will ruin the episode and on Friday its people saying it's boring or edgy
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>>162051282
Like Migi
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>>162051314
normie dont come here and complaint
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>>162051314
>letting reddit dictate what you like.
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>>162051312
It's enough to show a character almost dying with good direction and editing. Staring at a bleeding face for half the episode is just autism.
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>>162051314
Reddit likes 4chan, why are you still here?
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>>162051383
Clearly you know the perfect ways of writing, when are you gonna make your manga?
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>>162051383
Complaining about autism on 4chan is an exercise in futility
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>>162051383
The point isn't she's almost dying, the point is Reg's despair as the situation keeps dragging on and getting worse. You can't convey that in 30 seconds because it's the exact opposite of what the scene demands.
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>>162051422
>the "you can't criticize unless you can do better" argument
I don't even agree with this guy but you're a retard
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>>162050940
>Maybe it's because I haven't eaten anything in a bunch of hours.
Low blood pressure. Though, you leaning forward and reasting your head, especially against a steering wheel which can rotate, was a mistake, that's what made you fall out of your chair when you fainted, it's no surprise you burst your lip when faceplanting on the floor, you were lucky not to lose teeth. Next time you start to feel dizzy like that, either lean backwards, or actually go lie down.
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The entire scene was made to provoke an emphatic response, not a sadistic one. The only people who can't appreciate it are literal autists.
They also didn't cry like a bitch when Reg did, so lucky them
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>>162051383
Maybe in a completely different context, but not in this survivalist-duo situation. It could have been faster, but not that fast.
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>mfw watching this right now
>mfw the entire hand breaking/arm ripping/bleeding scene

AOTY FUCK WHAT ANYONE SAYS THIS IS THE BEST DONE BORDERLINE-GORE EVER
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How accurate is my forecast?

>>154800818
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>>162051190
>the only way people use it in a serious manner is to troll
That literally describes half of every thread today, and the entirety of the last one. It's quite amazing we used to be such a savvy niche that all that shitposting would've been ignored or reported before the anime started and the would-be troll laughed out of the thread, I almost don't believe it myself. But now we have faggots like this >>162051383 who say this kind of shit just because they know it'll get them replies. It doesn't even make fucking sense, "staring at a bleeding face for half the episode is just autism" what the fuck is that even supposed to mean yet people continue to reply. Made in Abyss was a mistake.
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We could very well see full-res Bonedaddy in the next episode. How do you feel about this? I may need to prepare diapers.
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>edgyshit = good
hahaha no
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>>162051501
I can read the manga just fine, but hearing the scene voiced killed me
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>>162051566
Nice buzzword
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>>162051511
Falseflagging retards like you are the reason this board has gone to shit. You're not funny, no matter much you giggle inside.
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>>162050977
>being disappointed because the anime delivered on what it promised
What the fuck are people like you even doing watching this?
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Here's a good way to gauge the state of these threads going by this episode:
>Age
>Rate your mental strength out of 5
>How did you feel about the second half of this episode
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>>162051595
kys i was being serious
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>>162051550
Trolling is easy when people are emotionally stirred, like after watching this episode.
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>>162051594
>buzzword = an argument
nice post
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Anime has some pretty good music too.

I've decided to read the manga. Can anyone recomend something to listen to? The OST from anime is nice but too short.
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>>162051566
this

edgy torture porn is just about the dumbest thing to base an anime around
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>>162051664
Exactly my point
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>every MiA thread since yesterday
/pol/ was right, we doomed
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>>162051229
Since you and that other anon clearly have reading comprehension issues, I'll take the time to explain why both of you are fucking retards. Basically, what you idiots appear to be hung up on is my distinction between normal people who like anime, and redditors, who aren't normies in the grand scheme of things, but are instead the sorts of disgusting people you find in a university anime club.

Now either give me more (You)'s or fuck off.
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>>162051652
This, post-suffering is prime time to shitpost aggressively and bait the grieving who quickly become offended.
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>>162051680
Then why are you in this thread or watching the show.
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Huh, didn't know Ebola-chan made an appearance in MiA, I though she died out long ago?
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>>162050977
>>162051182
>>162051383
Why don't you just be honest, drop the pretense of a well-formed opinion by latching to the "it took too long and I felt it dragged", and just say how you feel: you didn't like it as you have a pavlovian counter-reaction to anything that could remotely be deemed edgy.
And yes, the edge was necessary. As was the excrutiating length. This episode was all about hammering home the dangers of the episode in the most visual way possible as the previous episodes had, by word, set up.
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Daily reminder that he did nothing wrong
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>>162051621
>age
old enough to party
>rate your mental strength out of 5
420 out of 5 lmao
>how did you feel about the second half othis episode
literally masterful storytelling. if your pistachios aren't positive after this sequence you are a fucking brainlet
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>literally about a one way trip into what's basically some kind of eldritch hell
>horrible death curse if you try to go up established early on
>constant mentions of how dangerous it is and how many have died in it
Why did people expect comfy slice of life where nothing bad/dark happens again?
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>>162051732
i like the manga for the adventure stuff, the gore is not a selling point for me, but based on the reactions it seems to be the only thing anyone cares about?
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>>162051721
>Redditors aren't normies
>>>/Reddit/ and don't come back
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>>162051566
Stop baiting
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>>162051776
I guess they are used to the usual shonen "You will die if you use this!" and nothing happening as consequence
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>>162045647
At the risk of sounding cliche or like an edgelord I have to say that

While don't tipically care about VAs and what not, this scene in this episode, I will remember for ever, the VAs did a wonderful job and I could feel Reg's desperation, Riko's suffering, few animes have memorable moments like these.
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>>162051792
so is this guy baiting too >>162051511 ?
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>>162051785
I recommend one piece
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>>162047871
Pretty disappointing voice.
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The only thing worse than the shitposters are the retards replying to them
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>>162051757
0/10
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>>162051422
Ironically I'm actually a published fantasy author.

>>162051449
Reg's despair and crying was part of the pain porn I didn't appreciate.

>>162051504
You're probably right, I'm using some hyperbole. My main point is that there was an entirely unnecessary amount of suffering portrayed that went into the realm of raw edge with a severity and length that didn't proportionately advance the story in any way. I just don't get it, but I didn't get Re:Zero from early on in the series either and people loved it too for similar reasons. I presume it's a younger audience thing, but people get defensive when I bring that up.

>>162051550
Some of us are discussing the show and have wildly different opinions and value discussing alternative mindsets on things because it allows us to further cognitively process our experiences and define our convictions.
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>>162051652
Going after such low hanging fruit at the expense of all rational and reasonable discussion is absolutely deplorable though. I know they don't care but times like this make me wish they were capable of feeling shame, but if that were the case they probably wouldn't be here doing this in the first place.
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>>162051817
Some are even obviously samefaggin replies to their own bait
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>>162051798
Absolute degenerates if they actually prefer that.
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>>162051785
Why do you care what other people think about? Are they not allowed to cared about the most dramatic part of the season because you don't like it?
Your opinion isn't law, now fuck off.
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>>162051828
>it's wrong because i said so
also just fk off already cant you? this is 4chink not your blog
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>>162051776
>Why did people expect comfy slice of life where nothing bad/dark happens again?
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>>162051789
>Being so autistic that you can't distinguish between different social groups so you just lump them together into one category.
Why am I even arguing with you? I doubt you even understand what I'm saying.
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>>162051614
I wasn't promised extensive purposeless edge at any point in time.

>>162051752
Sure that was the intention of the episode. Doesn't make it good. Was just kind of sickening.

This show felt like wading through molasses with pretty scenery to get to a platform where someone poops on my face and you are all telling me I'm supposed to like having my face pooped on or I must be pretending.
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>>162051918
Tama-chan is cute! CUTE!
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Should I watch or read this?
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>>162051885
>you're opinion isn't law
>i sentence you to banishment based on my disagreement

hmm...
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>>162051806

I had high hopes for Riko's VA once I heard her screaming in the Ozen fight episode, but damn, she really hit it in this episode, it wasn't even over the top, it sounded like she was genuinely in severe pain and desperately trying to just keep breathing, absolutely brutal.
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>>162051785
the gore-as-gore is or shouldn't be the selling point, but it's important in the context of presenting a fuller and more thorough picture of survivalist adventure. i said it in the other thread too but basically, the way this event was presented is absolutely crucial to the audience taking it seriously enough and not half-dismissing it as yet another fake-danger "obstacle of the week". if the driving idea behind the entire work is to present your world and adventure as fully as possible while trying to be somewhat true to the many layers such an endeavor would have, you absolutely need to sell the survival aspect of it. it's devoid of meaning otherwise.
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>>162051912
>3DPD posting
>can't tell a blogpost from episode discussion
anon.
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>>162051828
While it wouldn't happen in such a fantastical scenario as an anime, it's worth noting that in real life suffering doesn't end when it's convenient and when people get hurt it's not something graceful and pretty that only lasts long enough to get the idea across.
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>>162051828
>>162051927
All I'm really getting is that you're easily offended and either missed the point or failed to appreciate it.
So good for you, I guess? We get it, you didn't dig it, you can stop defending your taste now.
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>>162051951
read then watch
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>>162051951
Read, the art is good
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I'm an anime only fag and this episode came completely out of nowhere but somehow I expected something like this to happen, holy shit.
These two just don't get a break.
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>>162051927
Don't like it, don't watch it, don't shitpost. Simple.
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>>162051831
On the flip side, it is a small solace that people other than the trolls can feel so passionately about it. It is proof of the hard work of the artists working on this
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Would Ozen be a good wife and mother to your daughter?
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>>162051983
>These two just don't get a break.
On the contrary...
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Break my bone!
OK. I did it!
Hey, boy. You didn't need to do it.....
"Laughs"
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>>162051957
Stop
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>>162051927
No, people are just saying you're retarded for ignoring the plentiful and frequent warnings that this will not be an easy or painless journey. And they're not wrong.
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>>162051828
> realm of raw edge with a severity and length that didn't proportionately advance the story

Are you sure you aren't just upset that a little girl got severely hurt and it turned your stomach so much that you have to come here and complain in order to rationalize your feelings?

I think the scene accomplished its objective. And your post is proof of it.
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>>162051983
They've had it easy, they just ran out of luck.
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A similar question may have been asked already, but has the manga shown what's at the bottom of the abyss?
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>>162052019
bitch just shows up AFTER he breaks her arm, jesus.
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>>162052028
>don't point out my fallacy
sorry anon but this isn't reddit where negative opinions aren't allowed. if you don't like people criticizing things you like then YOU fuck off
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>>162051828
The whole point was to show how dangerous the abyss really is. We've been told over and over again how dangerous it is but so far our protagonists have been able to make it out of everything fairly okay. When shit hit the fan for them it needed to really HIT. Otherwise the potential horror of the abyss wouldn't have as much weight. For the rest of the story both us and the protagonists will understand how fucked they could end up with just one misstep.
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>>162052072
no, we've only recently gotten to layer 6 and it's doubtful if layer 7 is even the final one. it'll take years (3+) until we get to see the bottom
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>>162051501
Hones question, what if I laughed the whole time?
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>>162052072
Yeah, the grand line then more abyss. Then the red line and even more abyss. They haven't found one piece yet.
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>>162052087
>The whole point was to show how dangerous the abyss really is.
you can show how smelly shit is without smearing it in the viewers eyes and forcing it down their throat
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>>162047837

ANIME IS SATAN!
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>>162051828
>that didn't proportionately advance the story in any way

Not every episode is about advancing the story strictly. This episode was about instilling a sense of genuine threat that compelled viewers to actually care about the duo, embolden their relationship, and sell the Abyss itself much moreso as a deadly entity, as opposed to just housing for deadly entities.
It was very important to the story itself that these ancillary factors come across as strong as possible, and they did.
I seriously doubt you're an author yourself if you lack this level of fundamental understanding on how to paint a picture.
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>>162052104
Seek professional help.
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>>162048147
Her sweet cunny dribbles blood from the ascension, but doesn't stop even after she is stabilized. Since she doesn't wake for days, Reg is forced to insert a homemade tampon for her and change it every few hours to avoid toxic shock. This means venturing out into the abyss in search of supplies, where he finds the star compass Riko dropped.
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>>162051967
Yeah I don't really read/watch fiction to emulate real life suffering, primarily it's a form of escapism and if I learn something along the way that's nice. Not really getting anything from watching a loli's face bleed grotesquely for extended periods, not sure what people are getting from it exactly and haven't really seen a good explanation for what people are getting from it.

>>162051974
What? We're having a discussion. Most of the insults in this chain are directed at me, I think you're confused about who's needlessly offended. I don't care to fling shit personally, it's boring.
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>>162052133
When bad things actually happen in real life they are not kind enough to make themselves tasteful and subtle for you.
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>>162051828
I bet you think that sounded really smart but if you weren't such a newfag you'd know this ground has been treaded over long before you got here. If you really wanted to stroke your cognitive processes that badly you showed up about three months too late and now you've nothing but the husk to look forward to.
>>162051811
It's just best to assume both extremes are pure cancer. No one who's already read this part in the manga long ago would be reacting this way.
>>162051997
I can at least appreciate you trying to cheer me up.
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Man, if people are making a fuss about this episode, I can't imagine what they'd think of Boneshrewd's arc.
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>>162051828
Whether or not it served a purpose is not something you can really say until we see how it's resolved. If they fix the arm and it's 100% fine and okay then yes, you're right to an extent.
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>>162052160
>not sure what people are getting from it exactly
emotions? adrenaline from intensity? i mean that's one basic reason to consume fiction, to be taken on a rollercoaster ride. while i'm not sure this goes to such an extreme (people are really exaggerating the "suffering" claims, both for and against), it's compatible with your idea of fiction-as-escapism.
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>>162052176

Well there will be more people getting triggered when we get to Mitty anyway.
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>all the fucking bootyblastings over some little girl weeping tears of blood and her robot boyfriend gouging her arm to pieces

Mission accomplished.
Fantastic episode, by the way.
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>>162052176
>people
normie dont care and redditors are just subhuman
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>>162052085
These trolls don't know when to stop.
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>>162052133
I'd agree with you if someone played with loli guts, but it wasn't as fetishistic as shitsmearing, it was just grim survival pictured long enough to make you care.
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>>162051621
>Age
Old enough to drink.
>Rate your mental strength out of 5
Dunno, I can stand fictional suffering like this, but I wasn't able to finish texhnolyze (I dropped it when daddy and son did the stuff).
>How did you feel about the second half of this episode
Ha, ha, ha, are they gonna cut her arm? Nah, ha, ha, why is this necessary? Ok, this kinda feels weird.
>>
Everything is going to be daijoubu
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>>162052160
>Yeah I don't really read/watch fiction to emulate real life suffering, primarily it's a form of escapism and if I learn something along the way that's nice.
Well there is your answer. You only want stories where nice things happen. That is your preference and doesn't mean it's how all fiction should be. Now go find a different show to watch.
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>>162045647
What does the rumble of scientific triumph sound like?
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>>162052133
How? How do you show the deadly seriousness of the abyss without serious consequences? They've had plot armor all up to this point. People were actually thinking the abyss is a comfy place.
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>>162052133
Yeah if you're a fucking pussy. This author is every bit as skilled at portraying sublime beauty and cuteness as he is grotesque horrors, if you can't handle the fact that he isn't afraid to utilize both in tandem then it's your own fault. You're the only one missing out on anything.
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>>162052243
i'm not trolling you anon. not everyone who disagrees with your views is just trying to make you angry.
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>>162052285
>if you don't like gratuitous gore and violence you are a pussy

wow i wish i was as mature as you
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hey, bleeding from EVERY orifice means the excessive bleeding broke her hymen, right?
that is, if she wasn't already the top slut in the orphanage, which judging by all evidence, she was.
a cute slutty loli, i like her.
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Anyone complaining about the abrupt tonal shift in the narrative clearly hasn't watched enough anime or read enough manga to know that this sort of twist is par for the course. If you found episode ten shocking in any way, I highly recommend you leave. If you're upset because the episode is gory, you definitely need to leave, or go to /b/ until you've become desensitized to it like everyone else who belongs here.
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>>162051621
>>Age
24
>>Rate your mental strength out of 5
Higher than the fantasy author telling everyone why his opinions are shit
>>How did you feel about the second half of this episode
It was based and then a bunnygirl with a great voice came along and made it baseder
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>>162052085
The Reddit thread is actually discussing the show and yet the /a/ thread is managing to discuss Reddit. When did this board get so bad?
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>>162052109
Are you saying this is just another version of One Piece?
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>>162052290
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>>162052359
Yeah except more horrifying.
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>>162052323
Way to miss the point yet again completely you retarded faggot. Whatever, feel free to keep thinking this has anything to do with edge and maturity, it's clearly as far as your intellect extends.
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>>162052351
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>>162052343
i don't think people are upset about the shift itself but about the depiction of the events being "too much"/"gratuitous"

i've argued that it needs to be like that in order to sell the scene and therefore the idea, but nobody has replied to me
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Alright, so what's the deal with the eyes on Nanachi's hat?

And who was Lyza's white whistle? Just some rando she knew during her adventures as a black whistle? Plus, how are life reverb stones made without level 6 fuckery like prushka?
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>>162052351
So this is reddit's show now? Guess it really is shit
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>>162052383
well how is everyone talking about reddit if they don't visit it frequently?
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>>162049991
People forget we saw her as a kid.
its a she.
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>>162045776
>releasing the torniquette will make things worse because of hypoxia-reperfusion syndrome.
Anon, are you seriously expecting a random Japanese guro comic artist to also be a medical doctor?
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>>162052393
It's because you're right and no one has a counterargument except "well I don't consume fiction to see awful things like that"
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>>162052351
Seriously. Where did this reddit meme come from? Nobody gave a shit about the place a while ago.
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the reee-ing will settle down in a few days

it always does
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>>162052447
But normie tears are so delicious,I don't want it to stop
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>>162045647
This is what happens when you don't protect it.

Remember this.
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>>162052360
just gonna check out then huh? well i guess that's your right. i can't force you to respond to me with actual words.
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>>162052413
>And who was Lyza's white whistle? Just
This has been a pressing question ever since they revealed how white whistles happen. Consensus so far is the author hadn't really thought of the specifics when he did the Lyza flashback, so he's now written himself into a place where he'll need additional backstory in order to explain it (instead of just saying her ex-husband is the WW). Nothing that can't be solved in-story, but it will be less elegant than it ideally could have been
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>>162052420
"reddit" is code word for newfags/SJW/normie
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Anons explain why this MiA thread got filled with pussies all of a sudden. did they not read the manga?
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>>162052393
>i've argued that it needs to be like that in order to sell the scene and therefore the idea, but nobody has replied to me
Because only one person who disagrees is capable of more meaningful discussion than shitposting, and he still has shit taste. Most people agree with you.
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By the way
>reeeeee loli's face bleeding half the episode reeeee

The bleeding began, conservatively, at about 11:30
Nanachi showed up a little before 18:00.
It lasted 6:30 minutes max. Triple that you have 19:30, still about 2:30 under the show's full length.
It wasn't even that long. You just think it was because you're a pussy bitch boy who's gonna be getting vietnam style flashbacks over a fucking anime for years.
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I agree
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>Well this is a cute show, I wonder how this likable pair will make it to the end of this supposedly dangerous place
>Tfw today's episode
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In the end, Riko was truly "Made in abyss"
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so did she die or did she just anime bandage it back to health?
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>>162052487
>normies

Underaged
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>>162052527
>got filled with pussies all of a sudden
redditors watched it, same thing happens with /tv/ and GoT
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>>162052532
thanks for doing the math now we can stop arguing
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>>162052351
Unlike Reddit, most of the people here have already read the manga. So the only interesting things to talk about are how the events were adapted to the anime and the reaction to them.
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>>162047837
It's like you literally invented an argument to have.
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>people are still watching this hot trash
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ow the edge
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>>162051989
>relevant anime discussion is shitposting when I don't like the content

>>162052035
I wasn't hanging out in the threads if that's what was going on, not really my kind of vibe. Lots of mangafag hype and spoilers type of threads, usually pretty hostile to anything outside of their hivemind, as demonstrated. Not cozy. I'm just here now because there was finally an episode worth half a damn to discuss.

>>162052050
I've sat through some pretty edgy stuff, not much gets to me other than stuff like that sequence in twin peaks with that closeup on tweezers digging around underneath a fingernail for like fifteen seconds. Literally just here to figure out how people are reacting to an anime with a pace as slow as a river of shit suddenly turning into a grotesque edgefest is going and to give my opinion.

If the scene's objective was to upset me, it succeeded. It dragged on and wasn't pleasing to experience at all.

>>162052087
I get it, it's dangerous. I could've gotten that idea without half an episode devoted to suffering porn.

>>162052142
Characters being threatened is a pretty lazy way to compel the audience to care for them, which is my main complaint about this suffering porn. It appeals to a small audience that translates pain of characters to quality directly without necessarily the characters being well-developed outside of that, which, they haven't been very well. Reg and riko sort of seem to fall through the story and get dragged along by it instead of pushing it forwards themselves, the setting seems to be in charge. I don't really care about them for this reason, I care more about the setting and that's the interesting part of the anime. When I have the suffering and pain of characters I don't care about shoved in my face for extended periods, I am bored and would rather see the setting that has dominated the narrative thus far.

At this point I would rather watch a fictional documentary on the abyss because riko and reg are gay.
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>>162047698
why is she not dead? Or is she dead already?
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>>162052413
What's the deal for how white whistles work?
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So next episode we are going to see a bit of Bonedaddy right? since he shows up in Nanachi memory in chapter 20
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>>162052171
Aren't you that autist who was flipping his shit last thread?
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>>162052617

She's just a piece of meat with a side of potato
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>>162052594
i've seen the reddit thread and most of them are manga readers. they even use the same memes that were created here while the live-tls were going on.

What does that say about /a/? i'll let you figure that one out
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>>162052613
>Characters being threatened is a pretty lazy way to compel the audience to care for them,

F a n t a s y
A u t h o r
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>>162052594
>most of the people here have already read the manga
clearly not
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>>162052556
Yes the main character of this series died before the final episode.
Comprehensionlets need to undo themselves.
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>>162052556
She's unconscious and crippled now. Only one of these things will be resolved.
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>>162052613
>If the scene's objective was to upset me, it succeeded
Yes that one the point.
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i want a doujin where cave creatures brainwash Reg and take Riko to their rapecave

I WANT GOOD MIA DOUJINS
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>>162052665
so why is everyone freaking out if she just walks it off?
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>>162052085
Maybe cobble up an actual criticism that doesn't rely completely on a buzzword coined by /v/ and someone might take your elementary level criticisms seriously. People were right to criticize the hopping bug, it looked like shit. People were right to criticize Ozen's portrayal, it did the original and true version no justice. The only """criticism""" anyone is coming up with here is "I-i-i-i-i-i-it's s-s-s-s-so e-e-e-e-e-e-edgy! Madoka! Re: Zero! Cheap shock calue! CRAWLING IN MY SKIN NOTHING PERSONNEL KID EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY
We might as well just make it official and move /mia/ to /v/ since everyone wants so badly to act like that's where we are.
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>>162052393
Quality posts never get (You)'s because 4chan teaches us how to criticize, but not how to build upon what someone else says. Anyways, I agree with your sentiment. When I read that scene in the manga for the first time, it really showed that Riko's actions have actual consequences. We get a glimpse into the effects of the curse, it re-enforces the narrative that Reg is inexperienced, and Riko is helpless. In hindsight, I also think it helps preps the viewer for the brutality of the Bondrewd's arc.
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>>162052233
cringe
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>>162049837
It's good. MiA made top 5, but it's still after Aho and PriPri for me.
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Anyone else bothered that Riko's blood looked thick instead of thin? Reminded me of blood sausages instead of bleeding.
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>>162052617
She was born dead
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>>162052613
This post reeks of 12 year old tried to be a big boy. No one else would put this much effort into a post.
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>>162052613
>At this point I would rather watch a fictional documentary on the abyss because riko and reg are gay.

You are so buttblasted right now, despite the front you are trying to put up.
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>be a fantasy author
>watch MiA
>too much of a brainlet to comprehend the episode's intentions but the sight of blood made your wife's son queezy
>go to /a/ to express your opinions
>anons call you a faggot
>"forsooth m'lady i must defend my honour"
>tfw nobody will ever buy his books
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>>162052202
Doesn't take ten minutes to depict a character losing their arm, and who knows how much time will be devoted to that whole deal next episode. Star wars handled losing a hand very well for a popular example. Quick, to the point, the plot moved along, no excessive suffering needed to be depicted, boom, robot hand, moving along.

>>162052220
I guess I'm just not as easily emotionally moved by blood coming out of a little girl's face for minutes straight.

>>162052266
Not at all, I love well-written drama and good sacrifices, and even bad endings when done skillfully. The reason I call this "edgy" is because it relies entirely on the suffering of the characters for it's entertainment instead of giving me a reason to care about their suffering.

>>162052343
>anyone who disagrees with my opinion needs to leave
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>the curse isn't present here

What the fuck did the bunny mean by that.
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>>162052703
>underagefags post here now
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>>162052761
>Doesn't take ten minutes to depict a character losing their arm

You're right, it doesn't.
>>162052532
It takes 6:30
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>>162052749
Unrelated question but how the hell do they make those?
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>>162052774
read the manga and find out
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>>162052686
there's no fun in making grimdark porn of a grimdark series that makes I have no mouth and i must scream look childish.
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>>162052774
She meant that exactly, it'll be explained next episode.
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>>162052691
She doesn't quite walk it off. Nanachi knows how to treat the poison and the bleeding, but the botched amputation leaves her hand crippled.

>>162052709
Yeah, it did seem way too chunky.
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>>162052634
That describes literally everyone last thread, especially the ones derailing the thread to argue over the definition of "edgy".
>>162052774
Read the manga, dumbass.
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>>162052761
But... anon-sama your opinion is shit
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>>162052774
Gypsy magic or some shit probably
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>>162052774
There are areas in the abyss where the curse/force field aren't as strong. Mitty's home is one of them.
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>>162052413

> Alright, so what's the deal with the eyes on Nanachi's hat?

I assume she made that and the fatsuit thing to make herself look slightly more like an animal of the Abyss, and slightly wider so that other animals may be less incliend to bother her?

The hat itself looks like it may have been partly fashioned out of a skull or something.
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>>162052761
The reason to care is because you spent 9 episodes getting to know these characters. If you still don't give a shit about them or what happens to them by now then the problem is not the suffering at all.
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>every post for the past 5 months
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE EDGE
>every post for the past 12 hours
THERE WAS EDGE IN THIS SHOW?
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>series heavily hints at gore and real dangers
>express the gore and real dangers visually
>reeeeeee why did it do this i swear im not puking right now you guys i swear i have actual opinions reeeeeeee
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>>162052546
kek
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>>162052837
oh wow, its like the we're only shitposting or something
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>>162052700
the only thing i'm arguing is that people have a right to dissenting opinions here. don't have a fucking spasm.
>People were right to criticize the hopping bug, it looked like shit. People were right to criticize Ozen's portrayal, it did the original and true version no justice.
sounds like you think criticisms you agree with are okay, though.
>EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY EDGY
dismissing an argument because it uses a "buzzword" is EXACTLY the same as using a buzzword as a criticism.
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>>162052776
i feel sorry for your dad bro
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>>162052850
They watch too much shounen shit, they are used to all bark and no bite
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>>162052761
>Quick, to the point, the plot moved along, no excessive suffering needed to be depicted, boom, robot hand, moving along
Luke was a Jedi warrior not a helpless little girl in the middle of hell with no one else around. The points of those scenes were so completely different comparing them is fucking retarded. If in MiA they just went "oops Riko got hurt lets move along", the scene would have completely and utterly failed.
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>>162052515
Which is code for "things I don't agree with".
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>>162052850
>tfw cant tell if you're talking about the redditors or /a/
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How did Prushka get fucked up in the first place, and how did she get better after she went up the stairs? I thought that the mind-swapping thing was used, implying that the curly hair was from a different body or something or that Prushka was some sort of splinter of bonedrewd's soul/mind, but that was never followed up on.
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>>162049789
>I'm what you would call an End Result.
Yeah no.
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>>162052887
>they are used to all bark and no bite
>didn't watch BnHA
MC breaks his arm every time he fights and you dont see him complaining
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>>162052893
same thing at this point right?
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>>162052702
there's just two things that bother me about the discussion surrounding the property, from even before the manga was fully translated

one is that there seems to be a basic shared assumption, even among people who like the manga, that it becomes teleologically oriented towards the shocking scenes and the suffering of characters. i don't think it does, and it becomes a problem when people conflate a scene being striking with that scene being the essence of the work everything else was building up to. to me, this page is just as striking as the arm-breaking or the mutation shit; i could also fawn over the panneling in the boner arc fight scenes, even though it think it's a flawed arc overall, or talk about the detailed depiction of fauna, hunting, cooking and evacuating.

the second thing, building from that, is that i believe the leit-motif of the manga is physicality. it makes a case for (re)presenting reality as loyally as possible, without making concessions to fiction, as a form of enhancing the qualities of a visual (particularly, sequential) work. i don't think the author is consciously thinking of this pseud shit while he draws, but i do think it's what he arrives at when he chooses to depict things thoroughly as he has done so far (yes, even stuff like the bunny getting his guts punched out of him and put back inside)
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>>162052750
>watch a show you otherwise like
>don't like an aspect of it
>explain why you don't like the aspect of it
>tfw people call you a cuck instead of attacking your arguments
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>>162047837
okay, i defend this anime
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These threads are absolutely hadimae
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>>162052652
Not sure what you're confused about. It's very typical that people prefer character development and relatability when it comes to incentive to care about a character than to just point a gun at them or break their arm. Relying on invoking empathy is weak. You provide threats for characters after they are cared for by the audience, not to get the audience to care for them.

>>162052676
>you were supposed to hate it!

>>162052739
>>162052749
>>162052750
>Share opinions that run contrary to the hivemind
>"LOL U MAD?!?!"
Guess my criticism was a little too spot-on.
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>>162051918
>stalk a bunch of children
>try to murder them
>doesn't even eat meat

Why is he such a dick?
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>>162052917
pussy cuckboi

>>162052944
>a fucking fantasy author
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>>162052895
I think she got saved by them in the first time to be used for the cartridge program
The curly hair is curly because of the curse, she got better because of science
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>>162052895
She's the kid of a Praying Hand. We don't know what that means, exactly, except Prushka's biological parent was mind-jacked by Bondrewd to become one of his clones. It may have even been a female who gave birth after she became zombified.
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>>162051754
I honestly can't really fault him. His goal was to go into the abyss and gain knowledge and eventually a "blessing" and he sacrificed everything (many of which were his own bodies) to do it. And while he has little regard for the human "form" in a twisted fashion he still shows respect to anyone who's ever worked with him, at least enough to remember literally everyone's names. Also what happened to the Zoaholic? Did he just kind of go "Well you beat me again so go on ahead"?
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>>162052837
it seems like one difference with the anime is it shows the curses and blessings balanced out, the suffering at the seeker camp balanced out with the cute cave critters

where as the manga an express highway to hell balanced out with interpersonal relationship achievements
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>>162052761
Stop being an idiot and just enjoy the show.
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>>162052837
Im pretty sure half of the "omg so shocking!" posts are the same people that have been going "tehee everyones gonna shit their pants when [insert scene] happens!". Same with the people going "look at these pussies not being able to handle gore lmao!".

The manga has been so spoiled with shit like >>162052285 being posted every thread since day one that at this point people are just replying to imaginary posts with arguments they have spent months waiting to use.
And then theres posts like mine where were just talking about the idiots.
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>>162052831
>YFW you realize those wooden slats were for protecting Mitty when they were on the run
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>>162052973
He let them through so they didn't bother with the Zoaholic
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>>162052944
Honestly you're just so buttfuck wrong on so many levels it'd be nigh-impossible to correct all of them, and you wouldn't accept it anyway, since you're trying very hard to rationalize how hard your shitter got shattered by some blood by appearing to have a clue what you're talking about.
So yeah it's easier just to call you a retard for being a retard. Don't be surprised, nature of the game. Nothin personnel, kid
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>>162052903
Are you trying to prove yourself wrong? He gets magically healed after every fight too. You didn't see Riko complaining either; she was the one asking for her arm to be cut off. Yes I know Deku has to use his legs later but that's not really the point. The tone is more important than the characters in those scenes.
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>>162052613
>I could've gotten that idea without half an episode devoted to suffering porn.
But then you wouldn't have gotten to see half an episode of suffering porn.
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>>162052944
i mean, the point is that the show tried to provide reasons to care about the characters in the other 9 episodes. it's not trying to make you care by force of gore.

if you find that the scene this episode lacked impact because we didn't care enough about the characters, you aren't saying there is something fundamentally wrong with the scene itself. you're in fact criticizing a different part of the work and even implying there would have been a way to have this scene have its due impact.
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>>162052785
>I have no idea what hyperbole is!

>>162052833
Not really. Got nine episodes of watching them walk around, ENORMOUS amounts of time spent focusing on characters that didn't end up being the ones we followed, plenty of slow panning shots.

Most of the development was focused on expanding what the abyss is. As far as I'm concerned, the abyss is the most interesting part of the series and may as well be the main character. It's in my opinion a mistake on the author's part to focus on what have essentially become a lens for us to witness the abyss when they have received less attention than the abyss itself.

>>162052890
Anime is well-known for having ballsy invincible little girls, no reason not to expect it here. I just don't care about riko, I haven't been given much reason to. Luke, on the other hand, was an extremely relatable character from the get go who had his struggles and ambitions detailed passionately in about the same amount of time as one made in abyss episode.
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>>162052944
It's been 9 episodes, how long does it take for you to care?
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>>162053019
If you don't respond, they eventually stop. That's how shitposting works. That's how shitposting has always worked.
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>>162052973
his charisma was high enough that it made Nanachi pity him enough not to destroy what little he had left.
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>>162053025
Pretty sure it was Mitty that was being used to protect Nanachi there, since she can self-heal.
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>>162052903
>>didn't watch BnHA

You mean that show where they set in stone early on there's a chick standing around that will heal him when he fucks himself up?
And then he learns Full Cowl so he no longer has to fuck himself up?
That show literally duped you into thinking it had bite but it's as toothless as any.
Not that it's a bad show, but it's a transparent trick that got you, apparently.
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>>162052944
>You provide threats for characters after they are cared for by the audience
Anon, we spent 3/4 of a season before the threats got real, were we supposed to go four seasons straight of "character development" before blood appears?
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>>162045647
So, she is bleeding everywhere and then he breaks her arm (>>162047584). What is that point of breaking it anyway?
Next stop amputation.
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>>162052903
Breaking your limbs because you're a dumbass who can't control your power is a standard anime trope in Shounen. They almost NEVER lose their limbs

A little girl bleeding from every orifice, and then having her arm realistically broken to the point where her friend put a piece of wood in her mouth so she wouldn't bite her tongue from the pain, and then said friend begins to saw into her arm is different.

Deku only ever got bruised up, he never actually twisted a limb out of the joint, or if he did it left such a weak impact that it faded from my mind. Also Deku is an unlikable mary sue self insert so nobody cares when he gets hurt.
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Why are people still replying to this autist? Are you all retarded? Maybe you're autistic too? I don't understand.
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>>162053066
>Anime is well-known for having ballsy invincible little girls, no reason not to expect it here.
Jesus fucking christ. Yes all anime has the exact same tone and level of danger.
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>>162053025
reminiscent of ozen carrying lyzas burden
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>>162052870
I'm having difficulty finding a single part of your post where you are the slightest bit intelligent or not a giant faggot.
>sounds like you think criticisms you agree with are okay, though
Yeah no shit retard, I literally just explained that I have no problem with the criticisms people make. The problem is when shitposters like you make up hollow, thinly veiled grabs for replies under the pretense of criticism which is absolutely what you are doing.
>dismissing an argument because it uses a "buzzword" is EXACTLY the same as using a buzzword as a criticism
Don't use the fucking buzzword in the first place then you stupid fucking faggot. If your argument has any real merit to it (it doesn't) then you shouldn't have to use it in the first place. But since it ultimately boils down to "waaah this episode is to EEEEEEEEEEEDGY" a casual dismissal is all you're really worth.
And furthermore you can go fuck yourself.
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>>162052961
It's actually a herbivore, just stupidly aggressive. iirc the manga even stated that it was irrationally dangerous. Think of a cross between a rhino, a hippo and a porcupine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RArojOoH0tY
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>>162053089
Bone is hard as fuck to cut.
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>>162053089
cutting through bone is a meme
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>>162053066
>the abyss is the most interesting part of the series and may as well be the main character
characterization: the abyss is dangerous
problem: how to depict this?
solution: make it endanger our journeying heroes in a way that viscerally conveys the characterization "the abyss is dangerous"

good enough for ya?
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>>162053094
>not being autistic
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Look at the bright side, anime-only folks; no more Riko for a few episodes.
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What is your value, /a/?
Mine is shitposting on 4chan
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>>162053074
I dont see how that relates to what Im saying but asking people to not shitpost or dont reply or not post the spoilers is quite futile and has the opposite effect.
Whatever the case, people just HAVE to be the ones to post the spoiler, they HAVE to be the ones "in the know", they HAVE to be "not wrong".
They cant help themselves.
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>>162053113
post a picture of her VA. I want to shatter my dream
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>>162053121
Especially if your mom is around.
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>>162053154
replying to shitposts unironically
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So literally the only reasons Nanachi is so popular are because of furries and the author fetishizing her every other page, right?
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>>162053144
The animeonly's are the only ones bound to see that as a positive point since the completely irrational hatred for Riko only started when the secondaries came in with a vocabulary consisting only of the word "potato".
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>>162053035
>>162052969
>Pure shitflinging
Monkeys.

>>162053065
There are multiple failings of the show that I've mentioned and while a lot of it does have to do with a lack of proper context to care about the characters, even if I did devoting an enormous amount of time to one bleeding out their eyes and the other being a crying bumbling fuck wouldn't have impressed me in any way. I unironically would enjoy seeing random creatures wander around the abyss in standalone episodes more than watching these two kids at this point.
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>>162053154
fluffy bunnies
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>>162052895
>How did Prushka get fucked up in the first place
That was also the 5th layer curse, some kind of carriage accident.

>how did she get better
Papa's love and fluffy animals, same as the first time but much faster because the stair incident wasn't as bad. Gueira is just a pessimist, he thought she was a lost cause both times.
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>>162053166
https://myanimelist.net/people/16453/Shiori_Izawa/pictures
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>>162053179
No that is your delusion so you can get (You)s on a taiwanese picture board.
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>>162053144
I like Riko. She's notably more of a blundering fuck-up than her manga counterpart, but in a fairly endearing, starry-eyed way. Whilst retaining a level of intelligent and competence necessary to buy her progression downward with Reg doing the heavy lifting of physicality and movement.
I liked how this episode started with her optimism frothing over, and brought it crashing down.
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>>162053094
>Is /a/ autistic?

People own giant stuffed pillows with their fictional, 3D soulmates on them. No, they're perfectly normal.
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>>162053028
Yeah that's what I figured.
>>162053080
>High charisma
The only thing I've been looking forward to since this adaption debuted is hopefully hearing Bonedrewd's "Splendid", "wonderful" and "My my my".
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>>162053133
>the abyss . . . may as well be the main character
Personally, I think the curse should be viewed as a predator that targets human consciousness and possibly the primary antagonist..
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>>162053154
Failing miserably at anything.
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>>162053201
Explain the hair curling then
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This episode certainly did generate a lot of controversy!

Bon!
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how do people consider this show edgy.
the entire show reeks of suffering even if you've never read the manga or know anything about it.
the episode even portrayed it as gruesome and didn't take it lightly at all, it's not purposeless gore like a lot of other shit has.
i might be looking to deep into to this but it serves as a purpose to set the mood for the deeper parts of the abyss, it worked in the manga and it works in the anime.
people who didn't see something like this coming are idiots.
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>>162053185
>even if I did
you're contradicting your previous argument though, where you invoked "not caring about the characters" as the issue with the episode. if you now say that even if the characters were developed enough for you to care, there would still be an issue with the episode, you have to explain what the issue would be. the second part of your paragraph is just re-stating you don't care about the characters
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>>162053185
Well good for you and your precious opinion. Go write a faggy fantasy book about it or something, you've had enough replies for today.
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>>162053154
So how does this economy grow, do they just camp the elevator waiting for new stuff to appear so they can trade it for what they value?
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>>162053183
helloᅠreddit
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>>162052791

>mass produced buns

is the world ready for so much fluffyness?
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>>162053247
Thats form the 5th layer curse, speedreader. She mentions it herself.
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>>162053089
Poison is spreading, failure to amputate will cause her entire body to become like her hand
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>>162053185
>lack of proper context to care about the characters
How about basic human empathy you fucking sperg?
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>>162053253
People don't understand edginess is contextual. This show LITERALLY props itself up to be violent from the very start.
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>>162053223
I own one too and you don't see me replying to an obvious shitposting autist for hours on end, turning the thread to shit in the process.
All this could've been avoided if you simply didn't reply. So hard.
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>>162053264
Hello faggot
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>Yfw they encounter an enemy they cant beat in the lower layers and Ozen swoops in and beats it up for them
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>>162052284
>People were actually thinking the abyss is a comfy place
This. As a secondary this episode was very satisfying.
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>>162053263
They grab shit from outside, what is mildly valuabke to someone becomes more valuable to someone else.
Or it could just be a stagnant economy. If it can even be called an economy in the modern sense.
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>>162053253
It's just one faggot shitposting.
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>>162053263
They craft stuff I think
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>>162053302
>More Ozen

I fucking wish
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>>162053302
ozen dies in the manga
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>>162053314
Whoever was thinking the Abyss was a comfy place must have missed the last 9 episode then.
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>>162053166
Her VA's on the better looking side of things.
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>>162053073
In a well-written anime, one episode. The only truly well-designed and well-written part of this anime is the abyss, and that's the only part I care about. You could almost say I'm on the side of the abyss. It was a huge mistake to focus on twenty side characters up to this point. Riko isn't much more than a personified plot mover and Reg isn't anything more than Riko's bodyguard.

>>162053088
No, just have good quality character development, or focus on the abyss instead.

>>162053099
I never said that. I simply pointed out that there isn't any reason to expect that a little girl can't handle her own shit in this medium full of little girls who handle their own shit.

>>162053133
Spends too much time on the victims. The story made the abyss seem more interesting than anything else and spends all of it's time dragging it's ass with a couple of boring kids that pass out and bleed and shit.
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>>162053165
>And then theres posts like mine where were just talking about the idiots.

You're feeding. That's part of the problem. If you're giving attention to the situation instead of just talking about something else, that always extends the discussion. Mind you, I don't care, regardless. I'm just here for pictures of Mitty, Riko, Maruk, and Reg. Easy enough to ignore half the posts in this thread.
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>>162053342
No named character except one dies in the manga.
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>>162053154
i do like vols 1-5, i really do

but goddamn why is layer 6 exponentially more interesting than everything prior. the environments, the animals, the economy, the culture, the creatures, the mystery. it just comes alive as an organic whole in a way that wasn't quite reached by the earlier layers.
i hope we spend some more time exploring the full extent of the layers instead of constricting all the plot to the town, because he's been on fire since 39.
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>>162053102
>I'm having difficulty finding a single part of your post where you are the slightest bit intelligent or not a giant faggot.
not an argument
>Yeah no shit retard, I literally just explained that I have no problem with the criticisms people make. The problem is when shitposters like you make up hollow, thinly veiled grabs for replies under the pretense of criticism which is absolutely what you are doing.
people have said it's excessive to the point that it detracts from the story and feels cheap. but let's just dismiss them as just saying "EDGY EDGY EDGY" because you personally disagree. i don't necessarily agree with that notion but that argument doesn't really have more or less substance than the opposite view.
>Don't use the fucking buzzword in the first place then you stupid fucking faggot. If your argument has any real merit to it (it doesn't) then you shouldn't have to use it in the first place
you are literally just attacking the wording of something rather than the actual substance of the argument. i guess that's too difficult a concept for you to grasp.
>But since it ultimately boils down to "waaah this episode is to EEEEEEEEEEEDGY"
that's what your posts boil down to as well. you just say "STOP CALLING IT EDGY REEEE" without making any points or stating why you feel the way you feel about the episode.
>a casual dismissal is all you're really worth. And furthermore you can go fuck yourself.
obviously i'm worth an autistic rant where every other word you say is faggot or fuck.

i'll say again that the only thing i'm arguing is that people have a right to not like the things you like here.
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>>162053321
They're taking shifts actually, our current shitposter is the least shitty yet which is a double-edged sword because he may get more (You)s than the last fuck.
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>>162053342
Cant fool me nerd Im one of the animeonlys that swarmed the manga after the 2nd episode

>>162053336
Dont give up hope
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>>162053166
she's one on the left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qpNX_CxmiM
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>>162053154
reading shitposts and powerlevel threads
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>>162053209
G-goddammit.
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>>162053288
>you didn't reply

Who are you talking to?
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>sitting her at length replying to multiple people reaffirming that you have terrible, terrible opinions

What did "my career is a jk" rowling mean by that
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>>162053209
she looks exactly like an anime character that I can't quite place. Did they use her as a model at some point. I'm gonna go crazy over this.
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>>162052916
I'm still not sure if that thing was supposed to be a living fish or a rotting chunk of something that was much bigger.
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>>162053273
That's what she said, but her hair isn't curling in the page I posted earlier. It sounded to me like that was something bonedude told her to hide something else he did to her to help her heal or something. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
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>>162053258
Wow, it's almost as if there were multiple issues and "not caring about the characters" was one of them and that "half an episode of pain porn" is another. Not mutually exclusive.

>>162053262
I'm doing a self-help book on arguing next, actually.

>>162053283
I've already stated that basic empathy is a lazy way to gather audience appreciation of a character. Development and relatability are far superior, after which scenes invoking empathy are even more powerful.
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>>162053253
some people are autistic
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>>162053427
Anon, did you miss your thread AND board?
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>>162053364
Oh thats refering to the "above the bullshit" meta posts that appear during every argument. I can see how its technically feeding but Im really not reading the shitposts, just scrolling through images and ocasinally replying to whatever catches my eye.
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>>162053381
Because it's actual exploring, beyond having the name "Capital of the Unreturned" and the general look according to the map we know jack shit about layer 6
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>>162053133
>fire is dangerous
>how do we show this?
>have one of our characters slowly burn while screeching for their mother to save them also make sure you see their guts explode and their skin turn a nice crispy color
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>>162053359
They've been characterized plenty and you just haven't been paying attention. Also it's been constantly hammered that Riko is physically weak and helpless, surely you noticed how much this was explicitly pointed out. Riko handled it with far more strength, mentally speaking, than you'd ever expect from a 12 year old girl. Reg was the one who lost his shit.
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>>162053427
>jk rowling
Unrelated, but I wish I had a $1bn joke career.
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>>162053154
My value is food and ciggies

I want to get smoky things to make my body to remind me of when I was 14 before I started smoking and smoke bothered me
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>>162052916
Regarding your first point, I think narratively speaking the suffering is balanced with the adventure, but most people aren't interested in conversing about the logistics of the adventure or the paneling; at least, not around these parts. There's also the fact that people are consistently warned before going into the manga/anime about the suffering. That spoiler clouds the way people reflect on the series going forward. Digibro stopped reading his comments for MiA because everyone was keeping him on edge with the warnings.

I'm not sure I agree with your second thought. On the one hand, I do think the show tries to stay grounded in realism, but I don't think that's a theme, just a sign that the universe and narrative are properly thought out.

I'm pretty tired, so this reply is the best I can do right now.
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This reminds me of Gon losing his arm and being subject to a state worse than death. Reg and Killua had the same feeling of helplessness and broke down. My babies. I miss mommy Ozen.
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>>162053442
Her hair curls in the flashback chapter right after she suffers the layers curse.
You are overthinking it.
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>>162053425
To all the retards that engaged in an argument with the other retard.
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>>162053406
>itadakimasu ~ahhhnnn~
This is literally porn. I wonder, do Seiyuu's think of themselves as sluts? What would their parents think if they saw this?
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>>162053359
>I just want 13 episodes of scenic rpg dungeon, no characters, I'm real disappointed that this anime has characters, almost as disappointed as I am that they bleed.
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>>162053520
Why are you talking to yourself?
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Maybe if we post images of blood we can make this pussy feint and he'll fuck off
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>>162053359
i'm not gonna say i think the characters are super well developed (they aren't) but i do enjoy their minutiae and micro interactions. i don't always need exposition on motive and psychology to enjoy a character as it behaves, but i'll say that the anime loses out here because it's so padded out to become numbing. i also have grown to dislike the style of most japanese voice acting so even if they can perform impressive feats like the screaming and coughing from this episode, i can't stand hearing them talk. so voice acting is a minus for me, most of the time.

i also think the abyss becomes interesting as characters interact with it and uncover it. i don't think a documentary approach would work if it was the only thing, and the POV of a child adds a feeling of directness to the discovery (the setting wouldn't feel the same if it was a seasoned delver with more prior know-how and skills doing the stuff).
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>>162050085
>kids with entry-level training go into a deep hole full of monsters that could make mincemeat of Earth's apex predators
>suffer the consequences
Guess what anon, if you run into a forest and get attacked by a grizzly bear with nothing to defend yourself, you're going to get fucked up. Would you prefer they just carelessly waltz through the entire abyss without a single challenge?

Oh wait, of course you would.
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>>162053516
I'm not seeing curls
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>>162053352
Comfy place for them because an incompetent an immature girl with only good knowledge was being backed up by an OP robot and even got help from one of the best of the best.
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>>162053381
Because it is the first truly foreign civilization we've seen in the abyss. I'm talking about people hanging human and animal bones up as decoration and the citizenry so far being composed of other delvers who received a curse that turned them into what they desire. Not to mention the city of of gold destroyed and partially consumed by crystals with poisonous explosions going off every now and then right outside the "city" limits. It's strange.
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I miss the good ol MiA manga threads now its full of cancer. bet everyone forgot about Ch.43.
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>>162053397
I'm the same guy, I'm just talking about the episode this time instead of riling you guys up with the word "edgy".

>>162053475
I just have a higher standard for character development, I guess. Cannot believe how much attention side characters got in this anime, huge ball drop. Took forever to get the plot moving, too. Ironically probably would have ended up caring more if they just jumped straight into the abyss and started exploring instead of messing around in gamecube game town up top.
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>>162053582
Look at the whole flashback, She looks at the mirror.
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>>162053473
If that doesn't give the audience the message nothing will
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>>162053609
5 minutes
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>>162053553
yaassss goreposting will definitely scare off those foul redditors!
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>>162053609
You were probably one of the ones responsible for this.
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>>162052961
Because Tamaguchis are Hippos with Porcupine needles over their bodies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCK-f8hQk4M
The poison is just their hate for everything living in physical form, they don't even need it
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>>162053624
Right, I'm saying that the curls were the result of bonedrewd's treatment of her level 5 curse effects. We never saw anything between her being fucked up immediately after the stairs and her being healed enough to look in the mirror at her hair.
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>>162053620
>I'm the same guy,
Well played, how many (You)s have you earned? Do you think you'll be able to afford to buy taste?
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>>162053620
Hope you know you are free to stop watching or actually go read the manga your choice anon. But at the end of the day we won't give a fuck.
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>>162053528
At this point yeah that would be amazing to just watch random characters or creatures in standalone situations roam the abyss. The abyss as a character is by far the strongest aspect of the series and dwarfs all other characters.

>>162053578
Watching a story where a guy runs into a forest and gets killed by a grizzly bear sounds like it would be a good twenty minute pop. Instead we got basically the same thing dragged out over ten times the amount of time.
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>>162053609

is like 2 months since last chapter, right? fuuuuck
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>>162053448
>I've already stated that basic empathy is a lazy way to gather audience appreciation of a character.
The anime gives us plenty of reasons to give a fuck beyond that and you know and ignore it. But you've transcended giving a fuck about people unless they meet your strict criteria. Good for you. Please grace the rest of us with anime characters you've deemed worthy of Interest and Caring.
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>>162051828
>published fantasy author

on the off chance its you demo where the fuck is my halloween in february video?
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>>162053448
but when pressed on the "pain porn" point, you ended up using "not caring about the characters" as a justification for it being "pain porn" in the first place. see
>>162052761
>it relies entirely on the suffering of the characters for it's entertainment instead of giving me a reason to care about their suffering.
>>162052944
>You provide threats for characters after they are cared for by the audience, not to get the audience to care for them.
>>162052613
>Characters being threatened is a pretty lazy way to compel the audience to care for them, which is my main complaint about this suffering porn

your other half-points were mostly about the scene being too long/too detailed, which were easily brushed off because they're bad and factually wrong
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>2500+ posts in less than 24 hours since the episode came out

Fucking secondary shitters.
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>>162053375
I'm sorry, but you're wrong.
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>>162053685
>Watching a story where a guy runs into a forest and gets killed by a grizzly bear sounds like it would be a good twenty minute pop. Instead we got basically the same thing dragged out over ten times the amount of time.
now imagine the story of how a person survived a grizzly attack. that would be different, wouldn't it?
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>>162053673
I can't see (you)s, I interact with threads using the browser console and have a script that eliminates needless data since I can just remember which post numbers are mine.

>>162053674
Obviously you guys give a ton of fucks about what I have to say. Demonstratably.

I don't read comics, they are tedious.
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>>162053724
Half of it is just the same shitposting sequence on repeat
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I think the hair curling thing might actually be the 6th layer's transformation curse bleeding over since Idofront is right at the bottom of the 5th, same as how Riko suffered the 3rd's curse when she was near the top of the 4th.
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>>162053473
that's precisely what you would have to do in a comic if you REALLY wanted your audience to FEEL that fire is dangerous. nobody bothers with fire because the demonstration of fire being dangerous already exists in real life, but when you're trying to characterize made-up stuff like the Abyss you need to go that extra mile
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>>162053154
Pretending to be autistic to get (You)s on this thread, my value is skyrocketing.
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>>162053557
Kind of funny because I'm the same with English voice acting.
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>>162053392
>people have said it's excessive to the point that it detracts from the story and feels cheap
Precisely as I said, a thinly veiled grab for replies under the pretense of criticism rooted entirely in personal opinion that no one yet, yourself included, has managed to properly or adequately explain to any degree beyond cheap comparisons and false equivalence.
>literally just attacking the wording of something rather than the actual substance of the argument
Wrong again idiot, I'm attacking the wording as well as the substance of the "argument" if you can even call it that. I guess that very simple concept is clearly beyond your pitiful comprehension.
>you just say "STOP CALLING IT EDGY REEEE"
I am doing my duty as clearly the only being in this thread with a functioning brain to tell all of you stupid motherfuckers how idiotic you are for thinking your faggoty opinions have any merit, you aren't worth the effort of a real argument. Like wasting a scathing intellectual analysis on the inarticulate tantrum of a kindergartener.
>obviously i'm worth an autistic rant where every other word you say is faggot or fuck
That's how someone gets to talking when they've been drinking all night, you're not as special as you think you are you fucking faggot.

I'll say it again, I've got no problems with people disliking things or making intelligent criticisms, if at any point you'd like to start by all means please do.
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>>162053793
So how did curly hair fit with some value/desire of Prushka's? Hell, what determines if going up in the sixth layer does the value/desire thing or blobification?
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I still want to explore the abyss after this episode
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>>162053766
You really do come off as incredibly insufferable, which is why you are getting replies. How well is your fantasy work selling?
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ozen knew this would happen but didnt give her anything to deal with it
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>>162053672
I think you might be overthinking it. We already have evidence of white hair stripes in Ozen and the Director and for one of them the curse was the reason for it.

If we didnt have those as precedents then yeah but nah I dont think Bonedrewd did anything there.
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>>162053850
>I am doing my duty as clearly the only being in this thread with a functioning brain to tell all of you stupid motherfuckers how idiotic you are for thinking your faggoty opinions have any merit
*tips fedora*
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>>162053857
I think the value thing only happens if you lose your humanity at the village or below the frozen ocean
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>>162053932
Or if you do the sacrificial curse redirection thing with someone who cares about you, I think.
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>>162053503
yeah, and remember how everyone gave no shits about it because "typical shounen stuff" but then Togashi drew pic related and everyone flipped their shit?

Another proof you absolutely need this kind of detail if you want your audience to take your barks seriously.
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>>162053850
Internet arguments about a cartoon are serious business y'all. We got a real trooper here, keeping this sacrosanct thread in line.
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>>162053698
Half the cast of CCS, Half the cast from Princess Tutu, Sora from Kaleido Star, Most of the cast of LoGH, Rakka from Haibane off the top of my head. Hell, Juri from Utena managed in just a couple of episodes. More hell, Flower from Orgel managed to in a single half hour OVA.

>>162053707
Not demo.

>>162053720
That's me explaining why pain porn is stupid in the first place. These concepts are not mutually exclusive whatsoever. The scene was literally a third of the episode, that's an enormous amount of pain porn.

>>162053754
Maybe if it started that way instead of watching him run around like an idiot for three hours first. And honestly no, in this arbitrary example I think I'd rather watch something where a guy runs into the woods and gets killed by a bear as a twenty minute segment than a four hour survival story.
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>>162053609
Chapter 43 will save the threads
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I just want them to get to Final Maelstrom already. I hope it starts getting surreal as fuck.
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>>162053766
>I don't read comics, they are tedious.
what

your opinion just lost all value
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>>162053893
The abyss is still beautiful and full of wonders, you simply have to approach it with more care, having a forcefield sensible bunny also helps
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>>162053900
How do you stop someone who is suicidal from killing themselves when they're already halfway into the noose? Ozen did what she could but she can't fix Riko's death wish.
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>>162053850
>only arguments i approve of have substance
>i'm attacking the substance of an argument i dismiss as having no substance
>if i parrot what he said angrily everyone will think i'm really smart
>i'm the only intelligent person in this thread :^)
>btw dude i'm so drunk
man you are fucking fuming aren't you? i'm done trying to teach you how opinions work. i literally never defended the notion that this show was too edgy even once.
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>>162053925
>projecting this hard
Way to backpedal, SJW. See how I used three meaningless buzzwords compared to your won, this means I win in your language.
>>162054012
Rings awfully hollow from an autist that's spent all night arguing furiously and feverishly about edge. Serious business indeed.
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>>162053984
>Desire/Blessing=Needs redirection from Bondrewd's machines or the "ritual place" Faputa talks of
>Blob(Not immortal like Mitty)=Usual result
>Value/Village=Dunno, we still don't know
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>>162053984
No, that's what makes Nanachi different from the villagers and especially valuable.
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>>162054041
If he releases it after the anime ends drinks are on you anon. Cause we gonna celebrate having a cancer-free manga thread... probably.
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>>162054097
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

lmao
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>>162053899
I exceeded my advance on royalties by 110%, but that's nothing incredible especially in adult fantasy. Self help should be more lucrative.
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>>162053900
She gave them training and a magical pickaxe
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>>162053995
HxH has NEVER been about "typical shounen stuff" anyone that had to read up until that point to realize that wasnt reading the series at all or has no idea what shounen is.
People flipped their shit because it was Gon.

You dont need grimdark to get taken seriously jesus fuck thats something an edgy teen would say.
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>>162054122
>Faputa
I meant the shell guy, I forgot his name
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>>162054020
>The scene was literally a third of the episode, that's an enormous amount of pain porn.
After 9 episodes of happy fun time.
>I think I'd rather watch something where a guy runs into the woods and gets killed by a bear as a twenty minute segment than a four hour survival story.
That's directly preferring pointless gore over a grim survival story. Did anyone tell you that you have shit taste yet?
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>>162054097
Oh I just saw your wall of autism while scrolling and decided to reply. You okay there? Might need a break from the keyboard.
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>>162054085
Books allow me to ingest a story supplemented by my raw imagination, visual mediums allow me to be fed a story like a treat. Comics are this weird awkward mix of the two where the pictures feel like they're in the way of the words and I'd rather just use my imagination.
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>>162054093
What, you're done already? I had a feeling you wouldn't be able to keep up you sad little faggot, you pitiful last attempt to get a desperate shot in was kind of cute though. I don't give a fuck if you think the show's edgy or not, you've proven to me what a dumbass you are and that's all I really care about. Maybe stick to One Piece threads or something from now on.
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>>162054143
But it's a fact that people dismissed Gon's "sacrifice" because it would just get healed anyway, he's the main character (this in fact happened). The only reason it ever gets to a point where people take it seriously, even for a moment, is when we are shown the consequences with immediacy. Him being Gon and us caring about him only amplifies the effect, but doesn't cause it.
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>>162054097
>Way to backpedal, SJW.
I'm a different anon who just dropped in to call you a fag. Toodles mate.
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We were discussing this scene before the show began with the mangafags who spoiled it.

This is the scene that sets the central theme and the appeal of the show from what I see. Having children who are unaware of the dangers of a hostile environment and lulling their sense of danger with the fanfare and excitement of adventure. I haven't picked up nor seen the show for this reason. No matter how you look at it, getting children to go through such things and having people watch is gratuitous at best, since the writer has full control over the events and this is exactly what he wants to happen in this world and this is exactly what he wants you to see.

I'm sure most of you are enjoying it.
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>>162054171
After nine episodes of wading through a lake of molasses.

A bear attack doesn't have to be gory, I just think a twenty minute short about a guy wandering into the woods and getting killed by a bear sounds way more interesting, spontaneous, original, and entertaining than a four hour film about a guy who gets mauled and his struggles thereafter.
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>>162054181
i'm so sorry anon
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I don't understand these THEY WERE HURT HOW CAN YOU ENJOY THEM BEING HURT posts. Part of "enjoyment" is finding the story engaging and introducing catastrophic elements like they did here makes it engaging, i.e ENJOYABLE. That doesn't mean you get off to lolis getting tortured (ok some of you do), but that the high stakes add to the engagement of the audience and makes the accomplishments matter all the more.
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>>162054097
>SJW
wtf you used a buzzword i hate you now
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>>162054132
That's still only two buzzwords but I have three. I still win.
>>162054179
I think you might need a break from black cock, faggot. I'm amazed you were able to pull it out of your throat long enough to get a reply in, that's some serious talent I guess.
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>>162054230
We are except for 1 autist author-kun
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>>162053850
Certainly, Lord High Autist Holding Court is a legit strategy for accumulating yous, per my reply. Still interesting that you need the validation though.
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>>162054209
"People" being some people that dismissed it yeah but there were others that did take it seriously. I see your point but dont think its a good way of making your audience care, at least its not a sustainable one in the long run.
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I bet you faggots would lose your shit if you read Narutaru
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what did he mean by this?
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>>162054292
If you didn't seek validation yourself you wouldn't have felt the need to reply. Put the stones down if you're going to live in a glass house.
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>>162054325
No, no, not care. You make your audience care by presenting a good world, a good character, good scenes, relatable moments, etc

You make your audience BUY the situation as real by perusing elements of 'realness' and weaving them into the fiction. One (very effective) way to do this in visual media is depiction, but it needn't be the only one. HxH is just a perfect example in this case because it did use this method for this particular situation and it coincides with what Abyss did here
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>>162054230
>since the writer has full control over the events and this is exactly what he wants to happen in this world and this is exactly what he wants you to see.
i don't see how this only applies to MiA
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>>162054265
There there, its all gonna okay champ.
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>a four hour film about a guy who gets mauled and his struggles thereafter.
The Revenant was great though.
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>>162053429
she looks like Doa from Blade of the Immortal
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>>162054230
>I haven't picked up nor seen the show for this reason
You're forfeiting your opinion here all because people are discussing the scenes that of course would generate the greatest reactions, and yet you still think it's worth something. You're dumber than the shitposters mindlessly calling everything edgy for (You)s.
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>Reg can't be a fucking porcupine
Lame.
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>>162054181
That sounds more like a mental disability than anything but ok you do you.
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>>162054358
Why is Reg so cat-shaped?
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>>162054397
No it's not.
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>>162054418
I'd rather see adults suffer, rather than watch children thrown into the meatgrinder.
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How Faputa knows Reg?
Why Mitty is alive again?
Why Riko only shits now?
This doesn't make sense
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>>162054407
You're right, but it wasn't really about the bear attack.

>>162054379
Someday your subterranean pool is going to run out of the lichen you scrape off with your teeth for sustenance, and you'll have to wriggle your troglodytian body out of that crevice you've been lurking in for the last decade, and after your eyes adjust to the blinding, scathing sunlight you'll see me standing there ready to teach you about bants.
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>>162054358
Reg its a miracle of the universe
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>>162054421
It's the size of a rhino and can read the future.
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>>162054421
>Reg can't be a fucking porcupine
Why woud Reg want to be a porcupine? he is already a shota robot.
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>>162054381
I see what you mean. Though to make your audience buy into the situation I feel its a little lazy to use gore and shock value. Stakes can be raised taking advantage of the world building and the relationship the audience builds with the characters without using those.
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>>162054421

He didn't even get to fight it, Riko was stabbed on basically the second attack and he had to put everything into protecting her.
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>>162054461
Read the Ch.43
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>>162054454
I don't disagree but it's not going to make me unable to enjoy the plot.
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>>162054454
>watch children thrown into the meatgrinder.
this was the only time they didn't have plot armor up til now.
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>>162054461
reg was a furry in his past life
mitty split into two or three pieces during bondon's experiments
Riko is a shitter
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>show doesn't plot characters out of every bad situation
>WTF THIS SUCKS
/a/ everybody
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>>162054468
I'll let you believe that for now then, it'll make the smugness draining from your face as you realize you've brought a turd to a gunfight all the more palpable.
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>>162054508
I disagree and I think the main project of this manga is supporting the notion that it works (but in a broader sense of 'physicality' in depiction, not limited only to gore).

It's like, what do people remember about NGE? The EVA becoming a weirdo spider thing and fucking devouring the other angel, the semen-on-hand shot, those insane closeups with Shinji grabbing his face and his eyes about to pop out, stuff like that. There's more to it, obviously, but when a work stops shying away from these portrayals it generally tends to increase the efficacy of whatever it's trying to depict (whether -what it's trying to depict- is commendable or not is a separate discussion)
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>>162054461
He had a life before Riko.
Incinerator is a teleporter, Bon cloned her, the village is scamming Nanachi, take your pick.
The inn serves Mexican food.
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I'm happy Nanachi's voice was the same with the source material.
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>>162054592
You are several months late on taking a swing at that dead horse, my hombre.
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>>162054626
she really has the voice i expected nanachi to have.
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>>162054508

> I feel its a little lazy to use gore and shock value.

But in the context of the Abyss, they needed to see that, and experience it themselves.

We're told over and over how dangerous the Abyss is, how people have lost their lives to curses and monsters, if Reg and Riko ((Who are stupid children)) managed to make it through these layers without getting seriously injured at any point in time it would feel like they basically just have plot armor, even if we see the curse or monster attacks happen to someone else, we'd get the feeling that Riko and Reg are just impervious to it.

We needed to have a gorey, shocking moment to lay bare just how right Ozen was about Reg and Riko being seriously unprepared for the Abyss. The whole time from the point of the stabbing Reg can't really bring himself to process the situation properly, it's meant to be and is conveyed as just a long line of "Oh my god what the fuck have I done/allowed" feelings.
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>>162054635
I don't think most people in this thread fully understand just how old and not special their unique opinions on this subject really are. At least back then it was an actual discussion, now it's like twenty people spending all night trying to tell some shitty fantasy writer why he's wrong.
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>>162054692
Couldn't agree more with what you said anon
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I'm so confused to find I had a fuckin' hard borner while watching entire arm scene.
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>>162054599
You'll point the gun at me and fire but a little flag will come out that says "BANG" instead of a bullet, then you'll slip on the turd I brought while I proceed to lock you in a kuzure kesa gatame and force you to choke on your own fake gun I switched out
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>>162054692
Inb4 "Yeah but it was TOO long" response
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>>162054743
You had something there at first but you just lost it with that post.
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>>162054618
Oh I absolutely think the "shock" coupled with gore can be effective and I also think MiA has been using it effectively (though if they use it again in the manga its gonna start getting old depending on how they do it). The problem comes when it is over-used.
I do think HxH over-used it, especially in chimera-ant arc.
EVA integrated it but it was used as catharsis and as a full-stop to certain scenes which worked really well.

>>162054692
Yeah I think MiA handled the build up to it through the series well, especially in the anime.
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>>162054787
Well yeah, EVA is a masterpiece of visual directing. There's an Abyss between being as good as it and being just good enough to be really good
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>>162054781
squeaks an increasingly desperate 3DPD poster
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>>Going up the 4th layer means bleeding every orifice in your body
the author of this series love LOVE kids, doesn't he? even the adults ones have a baby face. Is just how his style is, right?
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>>162054461
Riko is a pooptato
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>>162054846
>the author of this series love LOVE kids, doesn't he?
you wouldn't know
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>>162054841
Just take the loss in stride, there'd be more dignity in it.
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>>162054841
>>162054865
Get a room you two. Condoms on the house.
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>>162054626
Yeah I like her voice so far, can’t wait for the next episode to hear her speaking in a more normal and less “mysterious” way
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>>162054893
>on the house
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>>162054846
>even the adults ones have a baby face. Is just how his style is, right?
you haven't read the manga or watched the anime
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>>162054572
>Past life
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The threads were getting like 20 posts every 3 hours before this episode. What the fuck?
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am I still on time to reads the manga?
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>>162054926
Its an investment cost thats part of the marketing budget.You gotta spend a little to gain loyal customers!
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>>162055015
yes, read it from chapter 1. it's better than the show
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>>162055015
Its ongoing. Join us in the wait for new chapters.

>>162055007
Its been fluctuating through the season.
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I’m happy we finally have the three together, sadly is likely they won’t get a lot of action before the anime ends
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>>162045647
Shit, that was brutal.
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>>162055190
season 2 is just around the corner! you gotta believe!
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>>162055228
Mid-late 2019 at the earliest
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>>162054592
>hey i think the violence was a little overboard
>REEEE STOP COMPLAINING
/a/ everybody
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>>162055284
More like
>bawwwww bawwwww youre all disgusting edgy faggots masturbating to this
>nah fuck off normalfag shitter
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>>162054963
Eww! Go back to the trash you filthy furry.
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>>162049916
>Re:Zero levels of edge
Does anything horrible constitute as edge for you? Would you say a WW2 doc is terrible because it has "Re:Zero levels of edge"?
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>>162054020
>Maybe if it started that way instead of watching him run around like an idiot for three hours first. And honestly no, in this arbitrary example I think I'd rather watch something where a guy runs into the woods and gets killed by a bear as a twenty minute segment than a four hour survival story.
You both have literally described The Revenant and Leo got his Oscar for it. I also find MiA much more enjoyable than The Revenant
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>>162055413
Is not anon fault that Reg is into that, I wonder at what moment does Reg start with his bunny molestation? It was in volume 4, right?
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>>162055422
Edge has devolved into a generic insult without much context. I think of it as a slightly overweight 16 year old expecting to shock grandpa with his haircut or clothes or opinions. Meanwhile grandpa was just thinking about watching a friend get stabbed and die in a pointless drunken fight in Mexico thirty years ago. Both of them are dark, but only one is earned.
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Jesus fuck 43 when
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>>162045647
That was a hard scene to fucking watch
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>>162055550
This is a respectable response and I completely agree
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>>162053525
Which experiment is she?
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>>162055550
>>162055422
"edgy" applies to attitudes, not media. when you call a piece of media edgy you're inferring an attitude emanating from it/its creator/its fans and applying the term to that.

alternatively, you call it edgy when it has edgy characters that you feel it wants you to root for
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>>162054963
It's rare to have a shota MC as based and relatable as this.
>canonically gets rock hard for Riko and Nanachi's hot loli bodies
>molests the bunny constantly and even develops high level techniques to grope her most effectively
>got a boner while getting femdommed by a sexy loli monstergirl he can't remember
>thinks of Riko's perky buds when squeezing boobstones
>probably would've fucked Maruruk's tight ass if he'd gotten the opportunity
Such patrician taste at such a young age.
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>>162055622
the fun thing is that considering all that, he is still extremely cute
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For me this was the most dick shrinking experience I think I've ever gotten out of an anime. Seeing guro pictures doesn't effect me, but when there's actual voices and pain noises involved holy fuck it made me wince.
Seeing Riko's hand got me fucked up.
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>>162045647
I can't believe Riko is fucking dead
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>>162055688
That's how he gets away with it. No one can complain when you're as cute as all the girls you've got dripping for your turtlenecked shota cock. It's completely understandable, who can possibly resist?
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>>162052618
As I recall, There is a special zone at the bottom of layer 5 where if you ritually sacrifice someone dear to you, and their dying thoughts are of you, the abyss converts their corpse into a stone with special resonant properties. Carve a whistle out of it and you can activate certain relics, including the entrance to layer 6

and this is one of the LEAST disturbing things pic related is doing.
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>>162055824
Becoming a white whistle doesn't sound worth it desu
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I was trying to eat
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>>162055824

That's not exactly how it works, but he should read for himself. That "special zone" is most likely a relic of its own in the form of those two elevators. That system does not create white whistles, it only separates the blessing and the curse into their own chambers.
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>>162055857
you need to be a little crazy to want to become one in the first place
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>>162049645
Didn't Lyza already have a whistle though before being on a team with Torka?
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>>162055895
i think he's talking about that big elevator in idofront, not bondrewd's experimental ones
>>
nigga yelling like Tarzan
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>>162055824
Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't the ritual site specifically referencing the creation of furry narehate? And white whistles can be formed anywhere in the abyss, permitting the sacrifice willed away everything in their final moments so another could continue forward.
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>>162055925
Just a fuckup on the author's part
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>>162049645
I can't really see Lyza sacrificing her qt shota husband though, in Ozen's flashback it's implied she's pretty torn up about him being dead.
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>>162055925

Yeah, that anon is just thinking that Tsukushi may not have had everything about the whistles planned from the beginning and that it SHOULD have been Torka as the white whistle, not that he WAS.
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>>162055925
>>162055967

But Torka was not the one who sacrificed himself for Lyza's whistle. How was that a mistake on the author's part?
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>>162055963

> Wasn't the ritual site specifically referencing the creation of the furry narehate?

I think the one bonedude mentioned for the whistles was a different place.
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>>162045647
This anime was shit from the start, I knew it would ultimately devolve into a juvenile gorefest. Pathetic.
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Anyone else cry during this episode?
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>>162056038
>t. assburger
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>>162056082
I came pretty close. It hurt to watch.
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>>162056082
No but I clenched my asscheeks when Reg broke Riko's arm.
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>>162049645
Liza whistle is actually Reg not the shota robot, but the other reg neither the dogo, but the OTHER Reg
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>>162056134
There's a lot of regs huh
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>>162056082
no but my shitposting sac grew three sizes this day
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>>162055888
I wished it popped like a balloon
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>>162055824
>>162055963
>>162056016
Its called a ritual place cause it had a relic that allowed to transfer the burden of the Curse to someone else.

the bottom part of the 5th layer is the ICE

below the ICE layer (sea included) is technically 6th layer, so you get teh curse of the 6ht layer that is either death or transformation
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Ozen is built for mating!
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>>162056082
I had a very uncomfortable boner
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>>162056118
That part gave me a boner.
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>>162056180
I unironically want Ozen to be my /ss/ mother.
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>>162056180
Do you think Ozen's anti-aging armor protects her ovaries?
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>>162056234
ain't nothing gonna protect those ovaries, son
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>>162056234
Ozen is old

OLD!

Probably they're dry now.
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>>162056082
They really made the scene way more stirring by showing details like Reg bringing a rock to snap Riko's bone against, putting a twig in her mouth, and her holding on to her mother's whistle for comfort. Then there were the screams, and Reg bawling like a baby. Extremely upsetting.
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>>162056215
I want her to step on me.
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>>162056427
Those little details really made it excellent.
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>>162055824
White Whistles are made out of something called Reverberating Stone, Also given the condition, the Whistle only works with the paired WW that "made" the Stone

To make an stone you need 2 person, the curse of the 6th layer (Transformation or death half way the transformation process) and a way to push the Curse from 1 person to another.

when you push the burden of the curse from 1 person to another 4 scenarios happen
Person A receiving the full Double curse
Person B the one being exempt from the Curse effect

Scenario 1
A dies half the climbing, without someone to receive the curse, B start to receive the curse again as he normally would
Result = A died + B died / Transformed

Scenario 2
A survives the climbing
Result = A its transformed in a bag of meat, B survived without any transformation

Scenario 3
A survives the climbing, while bearing the pain and suffer of transformation, while doing it was thinking that it would save B
Result = A is a bag of meat, B is transformed by the Blessing

Scenario 4
A survives the climbing, while bearing the pain and suffer of transformation, while doing it was thinking about how that would help B to keep on his adventure / Exploration in the abyss
Result = A is transformed into a Reverberating Stone, B survived without any transformation
Exception: B is not necessary who A wants to continue exploring the Abyss (let call it C), but only C can use the Stone made from A
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This episode reminded me of when Rick was gonna cut off Karl's arm in TWD. Suddenly shit just gets real.
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>>162056492
I really hate when people talk about live action western shit on /a/.
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>>162056466

I don't think scenario 4 is true, since the feeling there is basically the same as scenario 3.
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>>162056523
Well doesn't that just choke your goats
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>>162056534
nope, wanting someone to survive for the sake of living a happy life/ not suffering =/= wanting someone to survive for the sake of moving forward in his adventure exploring the abyss
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>>162056575

That just seems like semantics anon, until I see actual proof that that's the difference I'd disagree with that.
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>>162056608
>That just seems like semantics anon
but it is how it works, read the fucking manga then
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>>162056608
The Abyss knows the desires of its occupants, and has opinions on them. Self-sacrifice is what gets you a reverberating stone, not simply having a strong will.
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>>162056608
yes, but that little difference is what changes the result from all 3 scenarios
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>>162053263
They are a self contained city with no real outside trade. the economy only needs to stay at a place where it can support the smallish population.
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