Is this the biggest asspull in history?
not even the biggest asspull in bleach
Hunter x Hunter is a deconstruction of logical power-ups.
MY
>>161945958
im pretty even that could be explained away. albeit shittily.
there is almost none for final getsuga tensho. Just a long series of asspulls.
>>161945985
yeah Ichigo one-shotting Kenny was much worse
>>161945958
I fucking knew it, I fucking knew it. I knew this would be the first goddamn response. Why cant you fucking memers fuck off and leave HxH alone?
No, literally everything about JoJo part 2 is the definition of asspull
>>161945953
>>161945985
>>161946214
this, and thats probably still not the worst
>>161945958
EVERY TIME
>>161946037
MAZOKU
>>161946037
GOD
>>161946214
kenny?
>Asspull thread
>Actually a stealth thread about O MAI RABBI NUN
Every.Single.Time. Had a good chuckle everytime though
>>161945953
Not even the biggest asspull in Blech.
>>161946592
SANNAVA BEETCH
>>161946037
>>161946238
GOODNESS!
>>161946677
it's mainly the series of asspulls to get to that point that make me feel it was the biggest
I didn't pay attention to the story, therefore asspull.
>>161946720
FGT literally comes out of nowhere, though.
>>161946629
Kenpachi
>>161945953
How did the quality of /a/ drop after summer ended?
>>161945953
No that was his fight with Byakuya where he is revealed to have some bullshit "hidden power" that hadn't been at all foreshadowed.
>>161946835
Never understood what people saw in that fight when it was just as bad as the rest.
>>161946769
it was explainable from future asspulls
>>161946889
It was satisfying. Byakuya had been an asshole for an entire arc. You wanted Ichigo to push his shit in, and he did.
>>161946835
im not justifying or defending it as logical, but that too was explained by future asspulls
>>161945958
Right series, wrong asspull
It's a toss up on which asspull in bleach was the worst.
Either OP, hollow ichigo, or the entire sequence of asspulls that it took to defeat Ywhach.
If we're asking which asspull pissed me off the most, it would be hollow ichigo.
>>161947048
Yhwach was defeated mostly thanks to PIS, not asspulls.
BANKAI
MELTS
PETALS
ENDS
>>161947008
It wasn't satisfying.
What would've been satisfying is watching Ichigo get his shit pushed in and surrender.
It shows that he isn't a complete gary stu who "wins" just because some dumb bitch needs him to.
Why the fuck does pic related never get posted in these threads?
>>161946749
Thats a lie, I'll prove it with first five example in this thread (barring the ones I didn't watch)
>>161945958
Nen's ability to resurrect people were already shown and their ability to operate independent of the life is shown long ago in the Chimera act. Clown's knowledge/mastery of human anatomy and Nen mastery was long shown. His insanity was long shown. Combined (plus more I havent even mentioned) you get a mad clown with mastery over his body and the power over supernatural experiments with his body. TADA OH MY BUNGIE!! LMAO XDDD ASS PULL XDD
>>161946005
Shitter who either forgot all the build ups or didn't read/watch the manga/anime.
>>161946279
Part 1 introduces the audience to the mysterious power of Hamon. Part 2 introduces the malleability/mastery of Hamon. WOAH!!!! ASS PULL.
>>161947043
>build up of Gon's enigmatic characters for years
>Nen's ability explained for years
>Body modification through Nen usage shown for years
OH MY GOD!!!! ASS PULL!!!!
tl;dr Fucking retarded people who either have short attention span or didn't read the material or didn't watch the show or forgot about the series due to its lengthiness and blame their own incompetence on others
>>161947234
Because it had been mentioned several times before Goku achieved it. It wasn't an asspull at all. It was a twist sure but not a total bullshit one.
>>161947208
>it's satisfying to watch the hero get his shit pushed in and surrender
This isn't GoT, you retard.
>>161947243
>forgetting how Joseph outright admits Kars lost to chance
>>161947090
The plot arrow suddenly gifted near the very end was an asspull of significant magnitude
>>161947290
I never said it was you nignog.
All I said was that it would be satisfying to see an egotistical asshole pay for his overconfidence.
Perhaps after losing to Byakuya he could be humbled by training under him and maybe they could've eventually have learned to be buddies.
>>161947314
Not really. It had foreshadowing - poor, but there. What's stupid is that Yhwach gets tons of opportunities to kill Ichigo and never does.
>>161947395
Byakuya wanted to kill him, you fucking moron. Had Ichigo lost, he would've died, not become his apprentice or a friend.
>>161947396
He couldn't even bring himself to kill two traitors.
You think he could kill the kid he considers to be his son?
>>161947421
Byakuya wouldn't be stupid enough to kill an asset like Ichigo(or would he...)
Either way the gotei would probably stop Byakuya from doing it because they'd need Ichigo for research and another captain class fighter is always handy.
So what was mugetsu? Ichigo channelling his inner yhwach?
>>161947396
What foreshadowing?
>>161945953
OH MY BANKAI
btw. Really shitty of them not to finish the anime.
>>161947308
>A villain lost to someone, a notorious trickster with the power of mystical energy, who uses tricks with the power of mystical energy.
WOAH
>>161947630
Maybe even the filler loving Pierrot were intimidated of the now notorious final arc
>>161947609
Ryuken digging inside his wife's corpse.
>>161947590
It was the Quincy power sacrifice thing
>>161946835
It's been frequently foreshadowed ever since the very first fight against Renji though.
>>161947712
and that makes the father appearing out of nowhere near the very end after a significant amount of chapters to say "hey son, here's an arrow that can make the unstoppable god completely and utterly vulnerable" less of an asspull?
>>161947590
basically.
it's his equivalent of volstandig.
>>161947769
Yes. It was basically hitting Yhwach with his own Auswahlen.
>>161945953
All bleach ichigo had conflict Hollow and Shinigami power, hollow take over ichigo, ichigo use zangetzu, simple theorization comes full power ichigo.
>>161947731
Except Uryu could still see spirits and Ichigo couldn't.
>>161947590
It was Kubo channeling the inner shit that was in his ass.
You literally can't defend this.
>>161945953
O MY OSEAN DREAM
>>161948244
Power of friendship, bitch
Shatter, Kyoka Suigetsu
>>161948244
If magic exists basically anything else can exist as well.
>>161947614
-RA!
Sausgay surviving his fight with Deidara.
>>161945953
but that's not Guilty Crown, anon.
>>161948244
Literally using magic to cheat.
>>161947614
> mfw in part 6 diver downs ability to go into people was considered it's own special ability
I mean, it was a cool stand, I just don't get the apparent rule change.
>>161945953
Technically it's sort of being foreshadowed for a while before. It was said during the SS arc that Ichigo's Zanpakuto was unique and does shit no other Zanpakuto has been shown to do. Then there's the full Hollow form he used so we know he can pull off shit like that. The FGT is just taking that to its logical extreme with the caveat of losing his powers after that.
>>161946005
It also deconstructs the wishgranter with a negative effect plot device by giving Killua free wishes. Togashi is a genius!
>>161945953
It would have been fine if he never regained his powers and manga ended after Aizen was defeated.
>>161947043
>that art
>>161948244
And then Tea cucks Yugi in New York City. I guess it all worked out then.
>>161947396
Juha Bach didn't want to kill Ichigo because his fate would've been being cut into pieces and used as the new Soul King.
He was just showing mercy since he went through this already.
>>161945953
It wasn't an asspull since he is a still a quincy and this form is just another version of Volstandig.
Getsuga Tenshou is also an attack that was passed down from his father.
>>161946243
I love HxH. I don't join in the meme, but it makes me smile every time.
>>161947243
Gon was able to defeat cat-girl because basically, he placed a condition with his life as wager, right? Like Kurapika did with the spiders.
Except that doesn't really make sense, because Gon would have died if it wasn't for that power-up. You can't just say "oh shit i'm gonna die, better wager my life to get a huge asspull power-up".
>>161952879
Yhwach kept saying again and again how he would kill Ichigo, and he could easily kill him without leaving behind a body.
>>161953363
>Except that doesn't really make sense, because Gon would have died if it wasn't for that power-up.
We don't really know that, while it's pretty obvious Pitou would've killed Gon, Gon decided to give up his life before starting the fight.
>You can't just say "oh shit i'm gonna die, better wager my life to get a huge asspull power-up"
Well you can if you have Gon's level willpower, but you'll probably die afterwards. Pitou had a very spiteful after-death Nen enhancing for example.
>>161953600
He loved to hear his voice talking. Paid for it.
>>161953600
Actually he did not. He said that he will destroy Soul Society if Ichigo doesn't win.
>>161947234
>main reason Frieza genocides Saiyans is because of fear of Legendary Super Saiyan
>>161945953
No, you're just an idiot for not realizing how obvious something like this would happen
>>161947590
Letzt Stil
>>161947048
I feel Ywhach defeat doesn't really count since it was rushed and there was no way it wasn't going to be silly.
>>161945953
>confusing ass pull with lame
listen Kubo, there are a number of problems with the end of the Aizen arc. First of which being when Aizen became a butterfly he suddenly became retarded. The whole point to his character was that he was clever and crafty, which merged well with his broken ass power, and insane levels of skill. But once he became a butterfly he became a typical overpowered muscle head with zero craftyness, just insane levels of power.
The next problem Kubo is you don't make a "superpower" for the hero which destroys the hero at the same time if you don't plan to either
a) end the story there
b) cripple the hero and move on with another hero
By allowing the hero to power up to goku levels without any real consequence you destroyed all narrative stakes forever as we now know for certain no one will ever die, get crippled or leave your stupid story.
Finally Kubo, you fucking hack, not killing anyone who was remotely popular, even the people who clearly were shown dead on screen is hack writing at it's finest. No narrative stakes == no tension == no interest with your readership. Bringing back Dead Arrancars, failing to kill any shikigami the fans of the series liked, giving stupid levels of plot armor to the mc by removing all possible narrative stakes from using his superpowers.
It all just adds up to Kubo sucking at storytelling.
>>161946243
No, you have been laughing at other shounen all your life for using asspulls, now you have to endure it
>>161945953
It's not even the biggest asspull in it's own series
>>161953600
He didn't because he said he was going to come back when their lives were the happiest to kill them at that moment. Why kill him there if he had something better in mind?
>>161947234
Legacy or nostalgia I guess. Some people tries to bullshit their way into justifying it with "b-but muh vegeta wanting to become a super saiyan", but they kind of forget that the idea of super saiyan was oh how convenient, introduced in the very story arc where it was featured (vegeta never said anything about super saiyans before the freezer story arc kicked in), and it wasn't even foreshadowed in a meaningful way, it was just the manlet saying he was going to be the saiyan to end all saiyans, nothing he said even implied that he knew what the fuck he was talking about.
>>161956505
Aizen simply felt he could crush Ichigo when he turned into a beautiful butterfly
>>161956505
You completely missed the point of Aizen's character if you thought he was only supposed to be 'clever'- he's a genuine Ubermench who helped create an even stronger Ubermench who in turn became his only rival. The Deicide fight wasn't just a powerlevel fuckfest, it was a battle of karma where each payed the full price of their desire to achieve a desired result. Having Ichigo lose his powers was the price he paid to save Karakura, but what he gained (the trust of the Shinigami) is how he earned his powers back-it wasn't handed out to him like it would in any other Shounen manga.
>>161956664
Every single bankai reveal is an asspull.
Every single time a character has a stronger form you gotta ask "well why did you waste time by not fighting in your strongest form from the start?"
>>161947234
Because Nappa mentions it 90 episodes before, and the legend of the super saiyan is mentioned by both Vegeta and Frieza all the time through the arc.
Also, Frieza destroyed the saiyan race out of fear of the legend
>>161956765
>unironically defending kubo's shit writing
are you for real?
O
MY
>>161956826
>unironically defending >>161956505 's shit writing
Are you for real?
SAME
STAND
>>161946037
HOLOPSICON
>>161956813
>Every single time a character has a stronger form you gotta ask "well why did you waste time by not fighting in your strongest form from the start?"
Because that's retarded, especially considering that most Bankai come with a huge drawback and don't recover damage. 95% of the time Shikai is both more versatile and strong enough to get the job done.
>>161956825
That doesn't make it any less of a colossal asspull. The way everybody talked about it made it sound like that just like the "super namek", a super saiyan was just a saiyan that was stronger than normal saiyans. Cue to it being a magical asspulled hyped mode that was completely unrelated with the legend, and that the conditions to trigger it happened a shitton of times to goku even back during his childhood.
It is as poorly thought and executed as the legend of the super saiyan god. I mean, sure, that cat dude insisted all the time about the existence of the SSG, but that doesn't exactly foreshadows it besides making it obvious that goku can and will asspull it into existence before the movie ends.
>>161957059
Nobody cares about the way you interpreted the legend, the fun was that nobody knew how a legendary Super Saiyan looked like before the moment Goku transformed, it was a legend and Toriyama pulled it off like he wanted to.
>>161956906
What if they didnt have plot armor and accidentally died because they were saving their strong form for the rainy day?
>>161948244
Friendship is magic
>>161957184
This is actually addressed in the manga. Ichigo refuses to use his Bankai against a Privarron Espada and gets his ass kicked until he goes full power. On the other hand most people with Bankai are Captains and therefore strong enough on their own that they could win most fights without Bankai.
>>161956813
>Every single bankai reveal is an asspull.
Hardly?
Each bankai is for the most part an augmented form of the shikai with only a couple of exceptions (Yama Zombies, Byakuya's Teleportation, Mayuri's practically everything)
Either way, it's established who has it and that it's something attainable for others.
Nanao INHERITING a Shikai that she also automatically knows how to use despite never once using, fighting with, nor meditating with, and never even knowing it's existence until that very fight AND happens to posses the one ability to beat Lille while the same sword would be absolutely useless 99% of the time was pinnacle bleach ass pull bullshit.
Only Kenpachi beating a reality warper with the power of cutting things comes close.
>>161957417
>Byakuya's Teleportation
Pretty sure that was a Shunpo skill not his Bankai; you're talking about the Zommari fight right? Also Yama's zombies are pretty obvious (his Bankai is basically hellfire), Mayuri's Bankai is biological and he's constantly modifying it as per his motif.
>>161945953
I'd say the final boss's fight against the paint guy is possibly the biggest asspull in manga
>>161957152
>Toriyama pulled it off like he wanted to.
Exactly, and that's why it is a huge asspull
>>161957554
Clearly you've never read Magi: the current arc is like that fight x100