Is there any historical figure that wouldn't be improved

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Is there any historical figure that isn't dead yet?

>>161912737
the ones that are already girls

>>161912758

Trump

>>161912737
Everyone could be improved by becoming a cute girl.

>>161912737
Why would she be weak to anal?

>>161913045
that kind of character always is

>>161912758
History is made daily. So yes, hundreds of them.

>>161913045
I think everyone can learn to like buttstuff but we're afraid that we'd like it too much

King Arthur

>>161912758
You're still alive!

>>161912737
Astolfo

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>>161912737
Almost all of them.

So what's the in-universe explanation for why so many male heroes come back as female servants?

>>161912758
Me

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>>161912737
This guy perhaps.

>>161912737
>Take a male historical figure
>just draw a woman and give them their name
I don't think this improves a historical figure, it's just associating them with a tailor made waifu. Same with Saber, that's not really a gender swapped King Arthur, it's just a generic blond chick with arthur's name slapped.

>>161915725
My cousin/neice/aunt/sister can't be this cute.

>>161913001
I don't think just being a US president makes you a historical figure

>>161915707
They were women from the beginning. Except Da Vinci, who decided to turn himself into a woman because he wanted to be a pretty girl.

>>161913045
Goth bitches love anal

>>161913716
History is over.

>>161915725
>not wanting a cute Scipio-chan who ends her sentences with Carthago delenda DESU!

>>161915999
Considering Arthur wasn't a real person, Arturia really isn't that much of a stretch

Stuff like Nero is far worse

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>>161916246
>Considering Arthur wasn't a real person
Should it matter when the Legends all have the character being strictly male? It doesn't matter if the historical/mytholigical figure was real or not unless in some point in time in their Legend they were female. gender swapping them is really just creating fetish-tier characters.

>>161917222
>unless in some point in time in their Legend they were female.
Like right now, in Fate-verse.

>>161912758
Barrack Hussein Obama, the greatest president of the united states of america.

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>>161917246
Before the series. You knew what I meant.

Doesn't really affect me at the end of the day I could care less about Fate as a franchise, but every time I poke my head over the fence I do see some really stupid shit going on. Part of me wishes they played the concept straight and didn't rely on being so ridiculous.

>>161912737
Hitler.

>>161917855
How can somebody be this much of a faggot.

>>161917855
I get you, man. Fate is really dumb, huge waste of a cool concept.

Just jack off to the girls instead

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>>161912737

Henry the Eight.

Nobody likes landwhales.

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>>161912737
Mohammed.

>>161916128
It does you get put into a list as a minimum.

>>161916227
>Scipio
Nigga wat

>>161916227
but that was cato who said that

>>161916128
He's literally the person most spoken of since the turn of the millennium.

>>161912737
Blackbeard

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>>161919444
>that newly translated doujin of hers

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>>161917869
>implying

Descartes. Gotta give those bitches the D.

Literally none. It would just be better that women wouldn't meddle in history at all so we would be free to pursue mankinds destiny in the stars.

>>161922482
Read the sticky.

>>161920270
Moe-hammed is better than the historical figure.

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>>161919444
>>161919541
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>>161919685
What the fuck man, You might as well have put Ruby Rose in the game if they just wanted a busty pirate.

>>161924535
Supposedly, she's actually supposed to be Elizabeth

>>161924913
His wife? Why would she be the target of summoning?

>>161925227
Francis was actually just a proxy she used to maintain a respectable facade. In reality he was a nobody who probably couldn't even swim.

>>161925567
So instead of picking from the number of existing female pirates that are historically famous we're going to take a dude and maybe make him a chick. Or imply that his wife who barely exists as a stub on the Encyclopedia Brittanica, was the real figure?

They could have just done Cheng I Sao or Mary Read. I mean blackbeard is already a character so male pirates/privateers are covered. Just use a woman if that's what they want at the end of the day.

>>161912737
I really really like this picture. Busty evil women are my weakness, and seeing one blushing and getting bullied is extremely cute. Post cute evils.

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>>161925785
>Mary Read
They included her with Anne Bonny in the shit stain of a mobile game (Mary's the cloaked loli)

>>161927136
I want to slap the shit out of the character designer. The thing was, for all the gripes I might have about Fate/Stay I thought that it had good character designs for the people they were trying to represent. Or at the very least an interesting Twist on that person supposed appearance.

This is just bad.

Is it me or she looks almost like Baiken from Guilty Gear.

>>161925567
lots of sailors couldn't swim historically

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If, by some Grail wishing miracle, they would decide to actually make a FtM gender swap, what would you like to see.

Personal wish would be bishie trap Tomoe Gozen

>>161925785
That's Fate for you. They could have taken the countless literally who females in history/mythology and made them into your cute moeblobs. At the same time they could've made the males as the badass fucks they deserve to be. This way everyone would have been happy, those who wanted to see Caesar fighting Arthur fighting some Japanese Samurai and the fuckers just wanting to beat their dicks on some cute girl.

>>161927248
That isn't the same designer and artist of Stay/Night. On the contrary, only something like 15 characters in GO are made by Takeuchi and the rest are various artists, some pretty good like Pako and some completely shit like this one and Shimadrill.

>>161912737
Those that already are girls

>>161920270

How strong would Mohammed be as a servant?

Would he have a OP quran NP?

>>161912758
King Arthur

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>>161927759
>That's Fate for you
Honestly it's one of the reasons I never made it thru/past the first VN. There are some very cool concepts at play here; A historical battle royale that not only looks at past historical figures in part of one of the few good plot developments in the story. But the waifu stuff pulls me out whenever it comes up.

>That isn't the same designer and artist of Stay/Night
I've been looking at the servants for later iterations, and yeah. They went whole hog with with the waifu pandering and for some reason I keep seeing Saber in increasingly more bizarre forms. (Ishida Araki got in on this too much to my amusement. I like his work on "be mine hero").

Like, original cast had good designs that were actually very tame when it came to the female designs. But now I'm seeing balloon tits and incredibly ridiculous outfits.

>>161931571
>There are some very cool concepts at play here; A historical battle royale that not only looks at past historical figures in part of one of the few good plot developments in the story
Check out Fate/Strange fake then, it's written by Narita and has loads of crazy shit like a dead apostle masters and pale rider of plague as Rider
There are also very very few female servants without it going full fujo like prototype
It's probably the closest to a F/SN sequel there will ever be

>>161931571
Akira's Saber Lancer designs are top-tier though. Dragon for one and Lion for the other are just great.

>>161932931
> it's written by Narita
Sold. I'll give it a look
>There are also very very few female servants without it going full fujo like prototype
I don't even have a problem with female servants because the first game did it fine enough. It just seems that as the franchise grew, they decided that pandering would make more money than having subdued and believable female designs.

>>161933079
>Akira's Saber Lancer designs are top-tier though
I like his style, the character looks good on it's own.

>>161925785
Originally in Extra it was suppose to be that Queen Elizabeth had her face all fucked up towards the end of Drake's life so he gave her his stuff and told her to adventure meanwhile a doppelganger took over as Queen.

But I believe GO fucked that up as it usually does.

>>161927759
>Caesar

I'm still mad.

>>161934039
It actually kind of makes sense.
>Servants are weak against what killed them when they were alive
>Ceasar, therefore, is weak against stabbing
>fat provides extra layer of defense against stabbing
A brilliant strategic move, as expected of Gaius Julius Caesar!