It's been 10 years and there is STILL no anime as real or

>>161900914
>How did this anime change your life?
It didn't. I'm still the same loser I was 10 years ago.

>>161900914
Made me realize watching NHK was a waste of time, it wasn't that good desu

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His life turned out ok in the end.
You're still doing the same thing you were doing exactly 11 years ago.

>>161901047
>His life turned out ok in the end.
Sato was still miserable in the end and Misaki probably abandoned him after going to college.

>>161901010
This. Nothing ground-breaking.

>>161900914
>as real or brutally honest
Except girls like Misaki don't exist. There aren't any cute girls who will randomly cling to losers, losers will perpetually be lonely sacks of shit, even if they choose to become wageslaves.

>>161900914
I've never been anything close to a hiki or a NEET, and I've never had a problem facing my issues, seeking resolution, or changing myself.

So NHK did nothing for me.

>>161901249
Did the anime leave out the bit where satou almost died because misaki left him tied up in his room for a week with no food or water?

Manga was far better.

>>161901249
except misaki didn't even try to help him, she made him feel like shit more often than she offered any help.

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>wageslaving will set you free and you will be more happy than being a neet
HAHAHAHAAhahhaha...hahahah....ha........

>>161901293
It did, in general it's a lot more innocuous. Sato doesn't do drugs, Misaki is nicer, etc...

>>161900914
It's a mediocre to bad show overrated because it's critical of its target audience

>>161901393
>>161901340
>he thinks that was the moral of NHK's story
it was more something like...you will remain as you are as long as you aren't forced to change

>>161901393
It didn't say that. It just said that hikis only exist as long as conditions allow it, and without outside intervention it comes down to two options
>work and live
>don't and die
I prefer my wagey life over my NEET life but I guess it depends what kind of job you get

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>>161901460
>>161901474
>that random faggot in the mmo who literally cried because he didnt want to be a neet
>all of the MC's conspiracy shit and mental illness
>both of them basically ride off in the sunset looking happier than before
>it wasnt saying being a neet sucks

>>161900955

/thread

>>161901550
it sucked for them but I don't think anyone doubts there are comfy neets out there

it's just not available for all of us

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>>161901418
Was hyper self pleasure even in the anime?

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>>161901587
>>161900955
Isn't that exactly what WttNHK suggested would happen, though?

>>161901072
He was alive and supporting himself. That's a pretty average life, misery included. Misaki was never important and just a friend at best so who cares what she does.

>>161901550
>hikikomori = neet
yep i took the bait

>>161901655
Satou was living alone as a college dropout in and hadn't spoken to anyone in a year, living entirely on the dime of his parents.

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You're obsessing over your perfect 2D waifu when this jealous 3D thot walks in and starts pretending to be your waifu. What do you do?

>>161901605
Of course its not available for all of us, but who the FUCK would want to be a wageslave. Its literally worse than hell working, everyday being cucked by faggot shit tier bosses who somehow manage to be even more retarded than your coworkers. All the time you want the higher up's sit around and jack each other off and do nothing all day while making 50x more than you.

Wageslaving is the ultimate hell and there is no escape from it until you have done your time in it.

>>161901605
Ya, I think any guy with bad social skills and average looks would much rather stay cooped up in his room playing video games and watching anime all day. That's literally the best possible lifestyle imo. Whenever I go out in public it's just nonstop suicidal thoughts, but when I come home I can finally feel at peace with the world.

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>>161901655
>literally the only other person he interacts with
>invests in her, helps her to study for her entrance exams
I really don't think it's that simple.

The hilarious thing is the actual author of NHK became a NEET again after writing it and now lives off the royalties. You can't make that shit up.

>>161901718
watch the higher ups*

>>161901725

>author of NHK became a NEET again after writing it and now lives off the royalties.

Lucky bastard

>>161901725
>NHK became a NEET again after writing it and now lives off the royalties.
Of course he would, anyone whos actually been a neet knows the normalfag wageslave life is pure shit.

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>>161901720
>>161901718
>>161901393
>>161900955
>>161901047
>>161901249
>>161901460
>>161901550
>>161901742

>>161901249
Misaki didn't really help him in the end. When he could no longer to afford to be NEET he had to get off his ass on his won.

>>161901725
>lives off royalties
Who the fuck is still buying/watching this garbage

>>161901808
>he thinks im a neet
Nah just like the MC I had to start wageslaving, I wish I could be a neet again

>tfw my absurdism stems from this

>>161900955
I feel the need to ask nowadays. Unironically?

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Is this what hikis will all become in the end?

>>161902449
they become maggot food anon

>>161902264
Hes still posting on 4chan after 10 years, what do you think anon?

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a challenger appears.

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Sato or Misaki, which one was the most fucked up?

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>>161900914
>had a friend who got caught in a pyramid scheme and i had to help him get out of it
>have a friend who is a office worker who takes a lot of antidepressants
>i used to try and make money of mmorpgs
This show has something for everyone

>>161901718
Being higher up doesn't mean you get to fuck around all day. Speaking from watching my dad work himself half way to hell.

>>161900914
Kuzu no Honkai aired earlier this year.

It's been 10 years and there's STILL no bluray remaster, all the copies I find on nyaa are 480p

>>161901418
which sucks, when I read NHK I related hard to being a reclusive loner with drug habits, I mean I can hold a job but life doesn't really make me feel anything like drugs do.

>>161902754
Thats because you dad isn't "higher up" and is just the faggot boss over the lowly plebs.

>>161902807
That would have been impossible to air on Nip TV back then. Might still be impossible now honestly.

>>161902925
not to mention, they toned down satou's porn addiction
in the manga, satou had filled his hard drive entirely with pizza

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>>161901010
it was good for screenacps

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>>161902789

>>161903235
>the honeybee stings.jpg

>>161903235
Which is best sub group for this? ephemera only has 1 episode on nyaa

Is this worth a watch as an ex-NEET

How is wageslaving supposed to make you happy? You can buy more pointless shit, yay. Even fullfilling and actually useful, meaningful job can leave you burned out, it's better to stay a NEET if you have no talents or a drive to learn. But no, the uber rich will lose a couple of dollars a year if you do that, that's a no-no.

>>161900914

>Why would someone wants to be a Hikikomori ?

These words on that last episode hit me in the face.

>>161903928
That's the whole point. Being a NEET/hikikomori is a *luxury.*

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>>161900914
Please anon, don't remind me of such things.
>tfw

>>161903928
Everyone would be a NEET if they could. Once you no longer have support, it's not an option. You work or die. Life is probably going to suck regardless of whether you work or not, because your mind will always invent ways to make you suffer, because we evolved that way and suffering is biologically useful.

>>161904148
>Everyone would be a NEET if they could
Untrue

>>161904299
Actually, yeah, you're right. I might even take a part time job just to feel like I have some sort of societal worth. I'm sure many people would aspire to be something greater, but MOST people would choose to be NEETs if their living conditions and disposable income were enough to live comfortably.

>>161903928
>>161904148
Many people would be NEET *if* they had the money to live comfortably. Without it just wears down on people and builds stress as there is little to no security for the future.

Even then a large number wouldn't simply because they wouldn't know what to do with themselves. There would also be many who wouldn't because they want to do what they perceive as "good" or beneficial to their community, the world at large, etc.

The idleness of long term NEETdom can be daunting, many people would find something to do even if the money isn't a factor.

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>>161900914
>How did this anime change your life?
It made me live in horror of its prophecy.

>>161900914
Just bought the whole NHK ni Youkoso! manga yerterday.

>>161906295
but when do I get my wizard powers

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>>161906353

>>161902789
It was probably the best comedy anime of 2017

Fuck off with this self righteous blogshit. If people want to fail then let them fail.

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>>161906398
>>161906442
>>161906482
>>161906543
>>161906295
>>161906331
>he thinks he can help anyone
>he thinks these have any power at all

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>If people want to fail then let them fail.

>>161906611
Better than #prayfor/a/

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>>161906538
no-one chooses to fail

>>161906754
I do, faggot. There's one example. You are another, as you browse this website alongside myself and many others.

>>161906543
>>161906538
>>161906482
>>161906398
>>161906331
>>161906295
Post moar faggot

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>>161906812
Sounds like a lie you tell to comfort yourself you double faggot.

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>>161906611
>doesn't

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>>161900914
Other anime are real. You're just so pathetic they don't apply to you.

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>>161900914
Did you forget about watamote.

>>161906882
So you think you're better than me nigger? Because you're so deluded that you think you can't stop yourself from failing and blame """uncontrollable""" forces for your failure? I'd tell you to kill yourself but I'd rather see you suffer more.

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>>161906979
I didn't say that.

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>>161907011
You implied it faggot. Now acknowledge that I'm right. Acknowledge that I, and many others, choose to fail.

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>tfw this thread inspired to me rewatch NHK while I delay doing my college stuff

>>161907053
>>>/lit/

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>>161900914
It didn't. It told me how to change my life and I continued being a lazy worthless sack of shit.

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>>161907062
if you choose to fail it's b/c in your internal cost benefit analysis failure is better than not failure therefore it ceases to be failure but rather success

>>161906944
I find it harder to feel bad for Tomoko compared to Sato/Misaki. She just generally seems like a horrible person.

>>161900914
It allowed /r9k/-tier posts on /a/.

>>161907133
While you're right in that regard, I'm talking about what others would consider to be failure. That version of "failure" is what I want and what I choose to be.

>>161906986
>>161907053
>>161907274
moar

>>161907380
Shut up. Let this thread die.

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Basically people have no idea how to be NEETs.
I've been one for 2-years now (not my longest strip, which was 4 years).
Basically, all you gotta do is fill up the time you'd that work/school would consume (8-10 hours per day) with something active.

Go to gym, pedal your fears away, sauna at least three times a week, winter swim in the lakes when it's cold enough, visit your friends and families and maybe do something for them (like fixing something they're too lazy to do).

Just be active all day everyday, don't let the mellow stagnation get you and never ever wait for "motivation" to appear or giving a shit about you.

never give up etc

>>161907420
Don't you have a naruto/dbz/bnha thread to be posting in?

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>>161907380

>>161907482
I don't have shit taste. Unlike you. Want to blog? We have a board for that, it's called >>>/soc/ now go there and stay there.

>>161907103
>tfw this thread inspired to me rewatch NHK while I delay doing my college stuff
Are you me?

>>161907553
>Want to blog?
I dont have shit taste in activities unlike you.If you want to be a mod for every thread on /a/ you can apply to be a >>janitor since you already do it for free.

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Thank you and good night.

>>161907754
Thanks anon, been a while since ive seen a good post dump. Too many janitor's in-training nowadays

>>161900914
I liked the songs. Story was forgettable. Probably had more impact on my neet friend since he told me to watch it.

>>161907732
I'm not going to just sit here and let you faggots shit up the board worse than it already is. Stop being the lowest of scum and either stop posting on 4chan or fuck off to >>>/soc/ if I really was a janitor I'd have permabanned all you degenerates a long time ago.

>>161907800
>good post dump
I'm not even a NEET and all of that destroyed me because it's all true

>>161907830
If you want to talk about people shitting up the board then go cry about the fact we seem to have 1-4 dbz threads up permanently. Or go cry about how this entire site has been ruined by ironic posting so nothing means anything anymore.

Someone posting some screencaps in an nhk thread means nothing. Now fuck off and go apply to be a mod or janitor so you can enforce our daily general naruto, dbz, bnha, and other dogshit threads. While at the same time banning mogra threads because it isnt as worthy like a good newfag mod.

>>161907830
>m-m-mom they're posting the screencaps again! mom!!!!
rich for an NHK thread

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>>161903928
>How is wageslaving supposed to make you happy?

Discipline, structure, routines, positive habits. Wageslaving itself is ideally temporary.

You can whine all you want about not being a robot or whatever rhetoric you choose to use, but your depression is the reason this is correct.

>>161907991
>>161908051
Those threads at least have enough decency to be anime related. You niggers are just bringing your >>>/soc/ tier shit, and the only anime related stuff coming from you subhumans is reaction pics and the thread topic NHK, which you quickly derailed. If you had just talked strictly about NHK then my autism wouldn't have flared up, but you didn't, so it is.

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>>161908163
How much of a fucking newfag are you? Have you even been to soc in the past 7 years? Just kill yourself already or as the other guy stated go become one of our many shit tier janitors so you can do it for free.

>>161908346
>Have you even been to soc in the past 7 years
No, I like to associate with subhumans as little as possible. This is merely an exception. Return to your containment board or hang yourself. Your very presence irritates me.

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>>161908163
>>161907830
>>161907553
>>161908451
So this is the hallway monitor kid, pure autism

>>161908509
Deleting your post only to repost it a minute later. A classic subhuman act.

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>>161908451
>Your very presence irritates me.

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>>161908545
Clicked the wrong posts by accident, clearly you resorting to "if i pretend that i was baiting then it covers up my autism". Heres your final (you)

>>161908547
You posted that shit-tier "plebs" meme. All I did was reply with equal force.

>>161900914
Not an anime but Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa hit even harder than NHK in terms of being real/brutally honest.

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>>161908597
>All I did was reply with equal force.

>>161908596
>he's pointing out I'm in the wrong
>Clearly he must be baiting!

>Had my second interview last friday
>Nervously waiting for the phone call this week
Please let me have this job.
The NEET life for the last 5 months have been killing me.

/blogshit

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>>161908674
You can do it. I hope you get your job,
anon.

>>161908614
>Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa
I forgot the guy who did kaiji and akagi has a bunch of mangas, thanks for reminding me

>>161908708
>mangas

>>161901720
too much real life man, I'd hug you but you'd be repulsed by me

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>>161908708
Read it man, it's fucking amazing. Depressing as shit but it's my favourite work of his.

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>>161908451

Is there any BD rip release?

This anime made me realize dropping out of school and not working was an option, and ruined my life.

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>>161908725
>mangas
Sorry I forgot the plural form is "mangi"

>>161908700
Not that anon, but we need more of you to go around. This is coming from a guy a kind word saved a few months back.

>>161901855
Same here. I wish I could at least could work as a freelance instead of being hired.

I always spend a lot of money on lottery.

What would I do if I became a millionarie? Probably stick around here 24/7.

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>>161908805
Call me a fag or whatever but I feel happier telling people on here kind things as opposed to insulting them. Thank you though.

>>161908838
Notch is the epitome of "being rich doesn't mean you change or become happy", the dude literally just shit posts on twitter all day while being depressed as fuck. He used to be a /v/ poster back in the day, so whenever I hear people talk about winning the lottery on here I already know what happens.

You guys can do it. I believe in you /a/nons.

I'm a sad sack of shit but I managed to get a good job and a career.

>>161900914
I was going to watch it, but than i noticed that it probably is one of those shows that start funny and gets more and more sad along the way.

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>>161907462
Seconded. No one ever said a neet has to stay indoors and only play games/read manga. Being a neet just means you arent a student and dont have a job. Even housewives at this point count as neets, and plenty of them don't live depressed lives. Instead they do whatever the fuck they want with free time.

>>161908761
Replying to myself because nobody cared enough to ask for elaboration. If I hadn't watched NHK, I probably would have stayed in school, dealt with all the shit life threw at me because I couldn't imagine an alternative.

But when I watched NHK in High School, the darkest parts of my brain idolized the NEET lifestyle presented in the show. Even though the show did it best to portray it in the worst light possible, and all the smart parts of my brain were saying "boy I sure I hope I never end up like that", the darkest recesses of my mind echoed the same thought over and over.

"But what if I did?"

And those dark thoughts festered and grew as I went through college, with every obstacle I ran into causing me to think "Is this it? Is this when I become a NEET?" And eventually, I did. But once you dig yourself into that hole, it's a not one you can climb out of on your own. And real people don't have misakis pushing them out into the world, so they end up doomed to rot and fester on imageboards until they eventually run out of money and food and then just die quietly of starvation, alone, with their body not discovered for weeks afterward.

I hope starvation isn't too painful if you sleep through it.

>>161909047
I hope you make it through all of this,
anon. You're not alone. You can change, I'm sure of it, it's not too late.

>>161906979
it's too late for you, live stream your OD already

>>161909047
Anon you literally can't starve in the first world. You will get a job instead of of going hungry either way, you dont need a misaki, you do need discipline, motivation, and ambition though. I plan on joining the military soon for those very things as i've heard stories out there that it can help build you back up into being a functioning human being again.

Anything is better than going back to my dead end job forever, and if i'm too weak to push myself through school even afterwards then fuck it at least the military pays better.

>>161909160
I'll do that as soon as you do a flip off a bridge.

>>161907462
That's the issue. When you have so many possibilities, so much freedom, when you are able to do anything, you end up doing nothing, or start up something and drop it 5 minutes afterwards. Too much freedom can be as much of a curse as too much restriction.

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I'm not going to lie.

No show I've ever seen has hit as hard as Morel Orel season 3. No anime can even come close. That show pulled no punches.

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How do you start doing the things you know should be doing? I've thought and thought endlessly about my situation, weighted in all my options, written out all I want to do, what I can actually do within my means, and what I should be doing so I can start progressing. I've mapped out everything. And yet I've not done a single thing about all of it, I have it all there, but I do nothing with it or about it. It's even stuff I'm interested into, things I like and would like to get into more besides my current superficial knowledge. But still, nothing.

How do I start? How can I start? Why do I just do nothing instead of doing what I know what I should be doing? Why I am so scared of doing something for myself? Why I am so scared of failing at doing those things when I am a failure already it would be just one more drop of water in the ocean? Why do I fear change when it would be a positive one where I end up changing myself for the better?

I hate myself for knowing and yet not doing anything and just wallowing in self-hate and self-pity at my own uselessness.

>>161909201
>Anon you literally can't starve in the first world.
You can if you really set your mind to it.

>>161909207
>>161909160
Preferably one that has active car traffic under it.

>>161900914
havent watched it tbqfhwyfam

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>>161908700
Thanks anon, your words mean a lot to me.

>>161909268
Iktf bro, I think the problem is that we are stuck in the same environments all the time. We are too "comfy", we need sometime to reset our human minds and tell us "its time to change".

My only current plan since I'm so poor is to more over to my brother city which is a 16 hour drive away or join the military. I've realized I may be strong mentally to hold back depression or other mental illness, but im weak in willpower, so I have to drastically change something "irrelevant" to fix my thoughts. At least thats my current theory.

Its good that you have been weighting your options and thinking about what you like though, thats a better step than most.

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>>161909268

>new work by Takimoto never
At least I have his meditations.

>>161909268
Assuming you've already exhausted all options of trying to beat your own lack of willpower, at that point you need to find some people who care - maybe not about you but about doing those things with you. Reach out, reach out everywhere. It sounds like you have time and the means to find out who to find. So find someone, and get them to do something about you. Don't reach out here. Don't bother. We can barely help ourselves.

>>161909268
Literally all it takes is the first step before the momentum is there. Even if it stops, you're back to the same position, where all it takes to get moving again is the first step. In order to take the first step, you have two options. Either someone pushes you to take it, or one day you just feel a rush of emotion, and think "you know what? Damn the consequences. Today's the day." And then you just do it. That rush of emotion is rare, so you've gotta make the most of it when it happens.

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>>161909268
Set a fire under your own ass. Create a bomb. Let it go off. You will die or you will change. Either one is better than what you were before.

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>>161909544
> takes is the first step before the momentum is there
Said like a true normalfag, you can be literally 99% of the way done and just randomly give up and go right back where you started in a flash. If it was as easy as getting the first step started then no one would be complaining about how they are stuck in a loop.

The problem isn't starting something, the problem is keeping it going and truly changing yourself. Even when you complete something important, if you mentality is still fuck then nothing will change.

>>161909268

Most people don't do what they "should" be doing because most people want to have fun and don't like putting in extra effort. Planning is hard work, taking deliberate action and following through is even harder. Even if parts of that plan are fun, it doesn't matter, most people will always choose the more fun option over something less fun - most people are just programmed to optimize immediate fun over all else.

How do you start doing stuff? Well a plan is a good start, and more than most people do already, so good job. You say you have a list of options. Choose the one that you think will be the most fun to do, then break it down into smaller, simpler and easily doable steps - that's the key.

Afterwards, take the first step. It shouldn't be hard to take the first step once it's broken down so much since it's so low commitment.

Eventually you might stop following the plan/steps out of forgetfulness or laziness - so you probably want to mark a time every day to remind yourself to do it.

If you ever say the words "just take the first step dude xd" unironically you should not be giving advice to others who have legitimate problems beyond just procrastination.

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>>161909268
There is nothing impossible to him who will try. That's something Alexander the Great said, and I kept coming back to it while trying to figure out just what goes into the decision to do something rather than not.

I wondered why anyone was fat, for example. Technically they can be not fat, to be fat is suggest an excess of means they have good reasons not to be, and some ability to lose weight but remain fat. They choose to be worse off? Unhappy? Determinism suggests our choices are already decided before we make them. So where does the impossible lie? It came to me, not in our ability, but purely in our choices.

To quote something too cringey to name...
>the actual will to take is often the only thing that's necessary.

>>161909626
You didn't read the next sentence. Just because the momentum is there, doesn't mean you're done yet. You have to actually make use of that momentum. If you hit a roadblock, you're back to square one, but it's no different from the first time. It just means you need to wait for another lucky streak to get started again before you can try again.

>Said like a true normalfag
You couldn't be farther off. I laid down the rules of the game, but it's a game that I've long lost. All I can do is tell other people how the game works, and maybe they'll do better. The rest is up to them.

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This hit me harder than the book itself

>>161900914
Genshiken is a more accurate depiction of early 20s adulthood IMO.

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>>161909626
Expecting that some deep and meaningful internal/mental change is the only thing that will allow you to change your life is the fucking height of normalfaggotry. There's no such fucking thing as an epiphany for this sort of shit. Pretending there is is setting yourself up to fail, you'll wait your entire life waiting for that moment of inspiration.

Also...
>>161909544
>the momentum is there. Even if it stops, you're back to the same position, where all it takes to get moving again is the first step.
It's like you didn't even read what you replied to.

It's a fact that no-one has ever succeeded at anything without taking some first step. Trying to figure out the 'real' beginning when it's obvious is just another delay, another excuse, another delusion, another lie.

>>161909743
>Even if it stops, you're back to the same position, where all it takes to get moving again is the first step
>where all it takes to get moving again is the first step
>again is the first step
>first step
You entire paragraph is literally just "DUDE FIRST STEP LMAO" and if that fails then just "DUDE FIRST STEP AGAIN LMAO". What if I told you some people can take an infinite amount of first steps and never get anywhere? You need to fix your entire mentality before bothering to think of basic normalfag shit as take the "first step xd".

If all you needed was the "take le first step" then you only problem was procrastination and your a fucking normalfag

>>161903640
Totally

>>161909917
>>161903640
No its not, all it does is make you mad that you aren't a neet anymore and are stuck being a dirty wageslave

>>161909880
>You need to fix your entire mentality
And how do you do that, anon? By taking the first step.

No-one is giving some definition of what constitutes that, but you need to crawl before you can walk, etc...

>>161909880
You can't "fix your entire mentality". That's the REAL normalfag answer. The actual answer is that you just have to do it, even though your mentality is shit. And then when you fail, you have to do it again, and you have to not fail that time. That's the only answer. There's no magic cure or "fixing your mentality".

If you keep trying and you still never get anywhere, then that's just the limit of what you're capable of. That's all you'll amount to as a person, so you either get comfortable with that, or it bothers you enough to get you off your ass.

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>>161901393
It's about setting goals and working to achieve those goals. Hikis are miserable because they are so poor that they can't even try to achieve anything. Getting a job and working towards a pay check is just one way people give themselves value. You could also go to school, or even become a wandering monk. It doesn't matter what the goal is you just need to work towards achieving something.

I would still play their eroge.

>>161901550
>hikikomori is the same as NEET

NEET just means you're not in education, employment, or training. If you win the lottery, have 10 million, and be married with kids you can still be a NEET.

Hikikomori means you're a shut in. You don't talk to people. You don't do anything. You just stay inside all day, only going outside for absolute necessities. That being said you can still have employment or work through online/at home work. But on second thought it would be harder to label you a hikikomori if you're communicating with clients/bosses even online.

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>>161901711
Embrace her and kiss her.

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>tfw older now than Satou ever was
>tfw never had a Yamazaki for a friend or neighbor
>tfw no Misaki
>tfw two left hands

>>161909950
The point is that if you dont know what to place your first step then its pointless. You can place your le ebin first step as "get a job" and lets say you just first step your way to that job. Great now your stuck as a fucking wageslave working a dead end job which only makes you want to kill yourself even more or go back to being a neet. Ebin "first step" solution there my friend.

Fix your mentality and the "first step" stays your first step, rather than one of many first steps.

>>161909958
t. normalfag

>>161910044
The bottom one is a right hand, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>161910069
his thumb is on the wrong side

>>161910068
>dude just fix your mentality lmao

oh ok

Odoru Akachan Ningen was pretty dope.

>>161910111
>dude just first step lmao

oh ok

>>161910095
Oh, you meant two right hands.

>>161910138
I can't do anything right, so probably.

>>161910128
If either of us had actual solutions, we wouldn't be here having this discussion. I'll just leave it at that.

>>161910012
The wizard is the best option on that pic.

>>161910068
First step would never be "get a job", that's a shitty first step. It's way too hard, large, and ambiguous.

First step would probably be more like answering "what job do I want/qualify for?", "what's the minimum pay I'm willing to work for?", "would I rather take a job now that I qualify for, or try to build up my qualifications/study to get a better job?".

Next step after deciding would be, "how do I best prepare to get a position at X job?", "how should I prepare my resume", "what's the best way to get their attention/deliver my resume", etc

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>>161910170
>tfw only 4 more years to go

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>>161910169
>im wrong
>but fuck you your wrong too
Take a step over to wizchan one day and talk to them. I don't go there regularly but its a good thing to see people who have major issues spew their thoughts out. See how many of them ended up in a worse state because they followed normalfag advice of "take the first step". They end up putting themselves in a worse spot than before and go down a rabbit hole of losing self confidence and going back to whatever their safe space is.

Walking down a pathway at night with no light is worse than not moving at all, you can end up hurt and lost in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>161901047
What? I was in 5th grade 11 years ago.

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At what point do real hikki neets stop watching NHK because they quickly realize they can't relate to satou?

Because he's really not that bad compared to greentexts I've seen on /r9k/, some anons really are too far gone and beyond saving in any meaningful way.

You would wonder how the MC managed to be a hikki when he was a literal country bum. Like, he didn't even know how to surf for porn before that.

>>161910280
You say that, but I'm still stuck at the point of not even taking the first step, so anyone who's ever even been employed is a normalfag as far as I'm concerned.

>inb4 muh wageslave

>>161910381
what did he even do for 2 years?

>>161910334

Maybe his anime version

Book version should be easy to relate to, the writer was a NEET back then. Satou describing how to legally buy drugs and make a mix out of them has to be 99% from writer's own experiences.

>>161901274
Did you at least find it an enjoyable show? It's one of my favorites as a cautionary tale about escapism and holding on to past relationships.

>>161910191
>i watched one guy state how splitting something down into smaller tasks makes it easier
Wow your bretty smart :DDDD. Btw no, none of those examples are a "first step", those are called planning out your first step.

>>161910442
>I'm still stuck at the point of not even taking the first step
Then why try posting your entire "le first step dude" paragraphs? If you aren't the original post of those comments then why would you come midway into an argument?

>>161910485
The writer was only a NEET for like a year though.

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>>161909260
>Morel Orel

Try hard edgy liberal degenerate garbage that you literally have to be high in order to enjoy. If you actually enjoyed that show and thought it was in any way an accurate depiction of reality then please do us all a favor and kill yourself anon.

>>161910502
>Then why try posting your entire "le first step dude" paragraphs?
You're the one who latched onto that part of it. What I was actually saying was that people have limited bursts of energy and you need to make use of those bursts when you feel them to accomplish whatever you can, and not let them go to waste. I never once said "le first step" is the solution, and then you're done. But your "fix your mentality" is still stupid as shit. Even if there WERE some way to magically change your mentality, like with drugs or something, actually getting those drugs prescribed and taking them would be the "first step". That's a moot point though, because antidepressants usually just make things worse.

Anyone who says "fix your mentality" feels like they have no idea what it's like to have a mental ailment, where the entire problem is that you can't.

>>161910280
So everyone should just live their whole life in their safe space doing nothing? Nice advice.

You'll never get anywhere if you don't try anything. A first step doesn't have to be a huge fucking leap into the darkness. Start small. Clean your apartment. Try to wake up and sleep at regular times. Go take a walk sometimes. Don't spend 8 hours a day on Chans and porn. After you have your daily life in some kind of order you can start thinking about getting a job or going back to school or whatever. You can ease into that too. Try a couple hours of voluntary work per week if you feel you can. Just take it at your own pace.

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>>161910603
nice bad taste

>>161901718
Well i get more money than being as NEET

>>161910675
So basically you offering advice you haven't even managed to take your yourself. You can't even take le first step yet you would tell others to do exactly that. Jesus christ your pathetic.

>>161910956
Because knowing what to do isn't enough. Anybody can tell you what you need to do. You have to actually do it.

>>161910679
>So everyone should just live their whole life in their safe space doing nothing? Nice advice.
No you fucking brainlet, Im saying you need some light to see where your going. Are you actually this stupid or are you just baiting for (you)'s?

>>161910603
Are you kidding me? First of all, being liberal has NOTHING to do with moral oral. Robot chicken mocks Jesus, maybe you mean that garbage show. MO is fucking great.
t. Christian Republican

>>161910988
There's really nothing to gain from getting that angry on the internet (or outside of it), mate.

I was commenting on your first paragraph about people taking a first step and ending up the worse for it.

>>161910985
>Because knowing what to do isn't enough.
Agreed, its about knowing why you want to do it. Its about putting together your broken pieces. The job, the money, the friend, the family, the girlfriend, none of this matters, the day you actually swallow your shit pill and actually bother to take "le few steps" you will find out your still just as depressed and upset as you were before.

Unlike you I've already gone from the pure autistic neet stage to getting a job, friends, reconnecting with my family, all of it. You know what the end result was? I was the closest to killing myself then I ever was in the past.

>I will quote fight club in a small chance someone as pathetic as yourself could maybe understand: "You are not your job, you're not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are all singing, all dancing crap of the world.

The problem my dear friend is that you are a broken individual, and unless you are a normalfag then doing shit like "completing goals" or "first steps" will not solve your problems

>>161911115
>first paragraph
Both of the paragraphs were talking about the same thing, the second is literally just a metaphor for the first. You really are a brainlet aren't you?

>>161911148
>The job, the money, the friend, the family, the girlfriend, none of this matters, the day you actually swallow your shit pill and actually bother to take "le few steps" you will find out your still just as depressed and upset as you were before.
Or you might not be as depressed and upset. People are individuals. Not everyone reacts to situations the same way. Wallowing in your self-pity and depression isn't going to change things for the better either. Trying to better yourself bit by bit might.

I'm sorry to hear it didn't work for you and hope things will be better for you in the future.

>>161911148
>the day you actually swallow your shit pill and actually bother to take "le few steps" you will find out your still just as depressed and upset as you were before.
I never said you wouldn't be. There's no solution to that. Your "fix your mentality" bullshit doesn't work either. That's who you are. That doesn't go away. You just have to either live with it, or give up. You can pretend you've changed, that you're a different person, but that fragile illusion will eventually collapse and you'll do more damage than if you'd just accepted that you're depressed and upset and that that's not a big deal.

I live my life by doing what I enjoy, even if it's as simple as watching anime, and if eventually that means I'll need to be a "wageslave" to survive to keep doing what I enjoy, then I'll do just that. I really don't care.

And wanting to kill yourself isn't a bad thing either. I personally don't plan to live past 40. Just do what you enjoy until you stop enjoying it, and then you can peace out whenever you want.

>>161911304
>Your "fix your mentality" bullshit doesn't work either.
How would you know faggot? You cant even take a first step let alone try to tackle fixing your mentality.
Also its interesting how some people literally have changed themselves, most of the time its through religion but others have found different ways.

>watching anime, I really don't care.
>wanting to kill yourself isn't a bad thing either. I personally don't plan to live past 40
How old are you anon, be honest I wont even report you to the mods. Btw you will live past 40, no one whos so retarded and naive to say "btw wont live past 40 xd" ever ends up killing themselves. Considering you dont even have the guts to take a step forward I highly doubt you have the guts to kill yourself.

>>161911429
>Considering you dont even have the guts to take a step forward I highly doubt you have the guts to kill yourself.
I have another 13 years to campaign for legalization of suicide so that it doesn't require any guts at all.

>>161900914
Im addicted to the opening.
Those trumpets and guitars man.

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If Im a horrible person and a social outcast but in college with high possibilities of getting a job will I success/cheat life?

>>161911282
>Not everyone reacts to situations the same way.
Like I said only normalfags unironically start to become happy the more normal they are. Thats why taking le first steps and completing goals actually means something to them. Their problem was only procrastination it was never true "mental illness".

Im still a work in progress but im more happy then I have been in a long time, yet not much truly changed. It just took a very very long time thinking about things.

>>161911236
No they aren't. Your first paragraph talks of those wizchan dudes taking their first steps, your second asserts that taking blind steps is worse than not moving at all. You didn't say the wizchanners stepped in blind. My first paragraph was pretty much irrelevant to the discussion anyway, you can just ignore it if you want to.

I don't agree with the second paragraph either, though. No one is going to light that pathway for you, sometimes you have to go in feeling around you in the dark and light your own stuff. Small steps and you will be fine.

>>161911429
>Also its interesting how some people literally have changed themselves, most of the time its through religion but others have found different ways.
They do that by deluding themselves into thinking they've changed, even though they haven't. Their mentality is the same. All that's changed are their actions. The moment they relapse once, the entire illusion breaks. It's why you have so many former drug addicts who turn to religion to distract themselves and then relapse back into their addiction.

I've known way too many of these "changed" people. Without fail, every single one of them has a mental breakdown and goes back to their old ways.

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>>161901249
>>161909047
>>161910044

This anime made me fall for the wage slavery meme. I was far happier when I was a NEET. Working is a huge mistake and I want to kill myself daily.

>>161911455
Listen lad you sound like an unironic teenager when you say shit like that. I'll pretend you actually are 27. Your entire philosophy has only proven my point, you manner of thinking is why you can't even take a first step. It might be your just a normalfag whose been babied too long and is living in procrastination happyland or it might be you have a more serious problem.

Either way, your clearly stuck and your mentality is exactly why, you think exactly like a child. I suggest actually spending time of discovering what makes yourself tick, rather than handing other anon's advice when you are still a neet whose never even attempted to escape.

>>161911629
>>161901393
This is the real shit right here

>>161911429
>>161911545
And this isn't just hearsay either. I'm speaking from experience. I've "fixed my mentality" before. Around 5 or 6 years ago, I decided anonymous imageboards were bad for my mental health and swore off them. For a while, I felt happier, like the world was a brighter place. But I knew the entire time that it wasn't, and I was just looking away. And here I am today, back at it. You can't change who you are. The only thing you can change is what you do. And if, at the end of the day, what you choose to do makes you miserable, then do something else. And if nothing exists that doesn't make you miserable, than either learn to live with being miserable, hope for a miracle, or kill yourself. Those are your only options.

>>161911545
>They do that by deluding themselves into thinking they've changed
Lets just take this by itself, if you could delude yourself into happiness would you? I would, going to church once a week to spend more days happy would be a great return on investment. Its alot harder than it would seem though.

>drug addicts
They suffer from a much different problem than standard "mental illness", It is literally completely different.

>>161911532
Having a successful career is 90% socializing. It's a rigged game, if you are socially retarded you already lost at life.

>>161900914
nothing but it was intresting to see anime about neets, hikikomori.

Since cycling in and out of NEETdom, and existing outside of it for now, I've developed a strange relationship with wageslavery: on average, I'm just bitter, but if the slightest negativity happens to me at work, I want to leave my two weeks' notice in my suicide note. However, and this is how they hook you, any moment I receive a little praise or validation, I end up thinking, "This is worth it. Maybe I can be worth something, even a little bit." Somehow, it feels like they know exactly when to slacken your line just enough with that before yanking you back in. I'm a fool. I fall for it every time.

What's the end goal of working?

>>161911679
Not going on imageboards isn't changing your mentality. That's changing your actions, another "first step" approach to you problems, aka just running away from your problems. If you wanted to change your mentality towards imageboards then you would come to either hate them, or to love something else more.

How so you will ask me? Well its hard because no one in the world has found a one size fits even 20% method. This is what philosophy and psychology intellects have been spending thousands of years trying to do. It comes down to how you perceive things, changing your perception is hard but possible.

With no knowledge about you I can only give general advice such as to study philosophy and focus on thinking about yourself. Not like thinking while listening to music or doing other things, I mean like staring a wall for two hours just thinking.

>>161911679
That's such a strange way of looking at people. Everything you do changes who you are. You're a sum of your past experiences. The only thing set in stone is your genetic makeup. At what point do you think you were locked into what you are and can never change again? At 12? 18? 25? It's total bullshit.

>>161911742
if you are socially retarded, you are mentally retarded
before civilization, the tribe would just abandon malformed unsociable people because they were functionally useless, this is really just the modern interpetation of that

>>161908910
Well, there's a lot of entertainment to be had for very little to almost no money.
So yeah, if you couldn't keep yourself entertained while having no money, it probably won't change when you get rich, either.

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>>161911790
ironically to stop working

I was a NEET for a while, but my grandparent's death really jolted me into action.
Really hate working, but I really hate being broke even more. I wish I had the gumption to just go full hobo.

>>161910603
Confirmed for not even knowing the premise of the show.

>>161911742
>>161911919
I can fake being normal while keeping the mindset of a NEET, right?
I do it from time to time when I have to give oral exams and speeches, but once I arrive at home then its just me and picking a book or the internet
If theres something I believe I can do is to stay socially damaged forever, but someway successful, I will cheat life, wait for me

>>161912011
There's a huge difference between not liking people and literally being unable to hold a conversation, mumbling, stuttering, and not being able to look at people in the eyes.

>>161912011
Most people are "faking normal" all the time anyway, and normal changes depencing on the people you are with and situations you are in.

>>161909636
>Most people don't do what they "should" be doing

Realizing that was actually a huge relief to me. Almost everyone I know is just faking it and basically none of them are working even half as hard as they claim to do.

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>>161909958
>The actual answer is that you just have to do it, even though your mentality is shit. And then when you fail, you have to do it again, and you have to not fail that time.

>tfw you did exactly that, and it got you through all of your education, including a PhD, and then got you a job but eventually you realized that there's always a next step to be taken and each of them is shittier than the one before and you never stop hating it

>>161912072
This isn't a healthy mindset.
Maybe you could get away with being a know-nothing when people around you have no clue what you're doing, but most professions aren't like this.
Notice this only affects the blue collar professiosn like "repair" and "programming".

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WHY CAN"T THIS BITCH EVER CHANGE HER HIDEOUS T-SHIRT?

>>161912041
This. Being a "misanthrope" or feeling like "hhhh nervous and awkward" has nothing on the debilitating terror of having a social phobia. You can't fake your way out of that.

>>161912104
Don't bother I tried to reason with them but they are children who've never even followed the advice they give. They are like drug addicts trying to explain how to quit while also injecting themselves at the same time.

One day they will learn, becoming happy isn't about your jobs, your girlfriend, your money, your family, its about you and how you perceive things.

>>161912041
Right, but at least its not a straight
>HOLY FUCK, just go outside change your ways and make friends
I may never know how does it feel to be unable to chat irl, but I share with them deep disgust for people, Im sure that faking being normal is better than becoming a hiki
>>161912056
I hope electronics was a good choice

Sato was a winner because he fucked sempai. That's more than 99% of NHK's fans can claim they've done.

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>>161910244
>I realized I had just cucked myself

>>161912182
He should have married her. She was a 10/10 and relatively mentally sane.

>>161912172
>its about you and how you perceive things.
And a lot of hikkis perceive the world through a thick and awful lens of fear and loathing. Of course that's no way to be happy. Some individuals really do need to remove the hikki cataracts.

>>161906944
>Surrounded by friends in her second year of high school

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To all of you in this thread, the only way to change your hikkimori ways is through your waifu. You can become a better person for her, the best you, the one she deserves.

For nothing else can so move the heart of man as one's waifu.

>>161906295
>tfw 20
>tfw this is current me/future me
>already barely any human contact in past 4 years
How do I get off this wild ride?

>>161911760
There's a ton ofisekai anime though

>>161912320
>I change waifus
>thats how valuable "my waifu" is to me
Just tell me where I can find the nearest suicide booth

>>161912333
The meme answer to kill yourself but I'll tell you I started off by going grocery shopping. It's a little more complex than it sounds.
I still don't have offline friends and I panic socially but I'm functional and I don't tape thick, dark towels around my windows to keep from having to see the sun rise on another agonizing day while I sit in the same stale air I've been recycling for god knows how long. I'm not happy but I'm not in a constant state of suffering either.

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>>161912199
>that one anon's name in the middle of the cap
>cucking intensifies

>>161906295
>tfw when 31 and this fearmongering is hilariously naive

>>161912398
You disgust me more than I can ever express.

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>>161900914
I never liked it
The animation and art were terrible, the story kept going nowhere, it kept trying to be anticlimactic because of "realism", it hsd the dumbest writing possible, and the show kept missing the fundamental point
Why would you not like being a neet? How much of an idiot can you be?

>>161900914
>and there is STILL no anime as real or brutally honest
Yes there is. Watch more anime.

>>161912445
>Why would you not like being a neet?
Mental illness.
AKA the core of the show.

>>161912398

Well it seems like you are aware of the root of your problem. The question is whether or not you want to change. No one ever saves or helps anyone else. You have to save yourself by wanting to first.

>>161912456
So why do people relate?
You can't all be that broken

>>161912473
You haven't been here long enough.

>>161902449

>hiki
>eating

>>161912473
Jesus fucking Christ, please go.

>>161909268
Push yourself into a corner. Sato didn't get a job until he had no other choice. If you want that moment to happen sooner rather than later you have to artificially create the scenario for yourself.

>>161912478
>>161912486
But I have, I just don't give a fuck about other people that much
I'm not a functional guy but I do not care because if someone doesn't like me, they're worms that are beneath me
I don't want to meet other people, I wanna be alone, I wanna watch anime, play video games, read manga, and nothing else

>>161912473

You clearly are not the target audience, and really don't know the breadth and depth of the nature of posters here. I suggest you take some time to lurk or just go find some place more suited for you.

>>161912398
Nigga they make literally hundreds of waifus a season. Many of them don't even get names.

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>>161901393
Ten years ago I was a hikki, was sad but happy with mai waifu. Then I became a wageslave and was miserable and filled with social anxiety every day. Developed feelings for a co worker and was shut down and had to live with that embarrassment every day. I tried online dating and that was a shit experience that destroyed any confidence being a wageslave built.

For some reason I can't even fap to hentai anymore, only 3d porn. Its like I am poison with this awful carnal desires. I actually yearn the years of being ronery and hugging a pillow fantasizing about 2d. That some how felt more tangible, I wanna go back. iwannagobackiwannagobackiwannagobackiwannagoback

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>>161900914
This thread needs a little optimism from Jim Henson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_Rfjl6tGW4

>>161912531
>mature posters
Oh please, if you really empathize your "woe is me" attitude should really change
You're watching anime, you're probably already superior to 95% of the people on the planet based on this fact alone, why people have an inferiority complex is beyond me
Being a normalfag is torture see >>161912551 for a random example
You're blessed to be a neet

>>161912571
i'm pretty sure you learn to enjoy your self-loathing because it's the only thing hikki neets ever talk about

>>161912594

If you think that person is a normalfag, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the word.

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>>161912521
You do you, big guy.

>>161900914
What's brutally honest about it?

>>161912617
He is, a failed one at that
Which is why it's pointless to try
Again being a wageslave, being a normalfag is the most heinous disgrace that can happen to a man, it's objectively horrifying unless you're the 1% that actually gets something good out of it
And striving for that 1% is idiocy, it's simply not fucking worth it no matter how much modern media might make it look good

>>161912666
That the NKK, like FOXnews, is a conspiracy.

>>161912678
>a failed normalfag
Like you?

>>161912408
I'm trying that bs too about small social gains with store employees or strangers, but my hobbies are too autistic for me to have any real connection with people. I also spill sphagetti at any negativity towards me. My self esteem has been in the dumpster since I failed college.
>inb4 nice blog

>As real
>Rich girl spying on some loner and showing up to his house to date him
Delusional. Only good part of the series was the MMO arc, the rest was just loser fantasy pandering.

>>161912741
Nah, I understand. I don't make connections either; the hurdle I put effort into overcoming was not having retarded breakdowns whenever I went out in public. I'm not socially apt, I've just made it past outright social phobia. I don't think I'll ever have friends, but at least I can navigate the outdoors.

>>161912729
Why am I a failed normalfag?
I don't interact with them, I don't have a girlfriend, I barely go out, I simply alternate between feeling sorry for them and despising them
I don't want to be a normalfag, I wanna be a shut-in and I'm succeeding

>>161911679
The first step is taking the first step.

The second step may be failure, and the third step may be another first step, and the fourth another failure. But you know what, just keep failing, eventually it'll succeed. And if it didn't, you're one unlucky mother fucker, some people just get fucked in life. People get mad at platitudes being recited in these threads but they're platitudes because they're for the most part, true. You get nothing if you never try.
I failed and floundered about for a bit. Did the dropping out of college thing, lived a shit life. Eventually said fuck it and went right back, got out and got a good job that I enjoy.

But now I have more than enough time and funds to enjoy everything I really like.

>>161909268

Do something unfamiliar, instead. Like, you could learn a game you're not familiar with - like a speedrun or touhou or something. And make it public. With a game, you can do that by streaming daily. It doesn't matter if anyone watches - it just matters that there is proof that you did it. If not a game, then find another way.

You don't even have to finish, either. What's important is that your brain has learned -how- to to challenge itself to take the first step. And then you can always look back and remember that act of courage, and know that you're capable of it if you push for it.

Things are easier if you know you've done it before. And then you can move on to your real goal. You may have someone you respect - when you get to that point, tell them about your real goal and that you're going to start on it. Your brain already knows that "sink or swim" feeling.

>>161912828
Sometimes people are fucked up, anon.

>>161912803
If you ain't a normalfag you obviously failed somewhere.

>>161912803
Did you ever want friends as a kid? Because unless you were like this since the beginning then you are deluding yourself.

>>161912908
What are you trying to say, at this point? I'm not that guy, but you're not even making sense.

>>161912908
Why?
>>161912918
I do have friends, you need other people to play ttrpgs and I like doing that so I have friends
Met them in highschool, through friends of friends and people in my class that's the friends I have, I have fun with them
Discussing anime tits face to face is nice because you can communicate better

>>161912921
You think people strive to be abnormal?

>"in the natural world there is NO SUCH THING AS A MENTAL DISEASE OR DEFECT, but rather certain patterns of behavior to which, in a given social context, we apply certain names which enable us to talk about and to effect certain changes in the social relationships of those who exhibit them and to effect changes in the individuals themselves. At best, we are left to the imposition of purely ARBITRARY criteria in selecting such persons."
-Philip Q. Roche, M.D.

You see boys, that shit you think you're suffering from gets voted into existence in some place. There are only symptoms which they tick in a tickbox like a magical game of retard bingo nobody wants to win.

>>161912970
Depends on what normal is
As it is right now, yes, absolutely

>>161912980
This
It's why things like autism get thrown around a lot, nobody knows what it is so everyone has their own interpretation and spouts nonsense

>>161912970
Some, yeah, but that also deviates from the point you seemed to be trying to make initially. I couldn't tell where you had ended up. The deviation also means I don't quite understand your criticism of that anon anymore.

Midori did it better sooner. Unless your focus on it is "OMG NEET SO RELATABLE", in which case I'll just point and laugh at you.

>>161912172
I have followed the advice I gave. I dropped out of school and was a neet for years. Finally applied for school in another city and got an apartment there. Almost got evicted and almost dropped out of that one too due to depression, but somehow had the energy one day to go the doctor for it. Got some pills and therapy and step by little step pieced my life together. Still took a long time before I was ready to go to school again. Graduated late, but at least I graduated. Never had many friends there either, and none I keep in contact with nowadays.

Applied for college, moved to another city. Been a couple years, life is pretty good now. Fucking awesome compared to my total shut-in neet years of self-pity, at least. Have some offline friends now too, because I took a step in the darkness and actually went and talked to people. Stepping out of my comfort zones and being around lots of people is still hard and I'm probably not ever going to be a drinking-and-partying type of person, but I feel pretty happy with myself and life in general.

>>161912888
People can change.

>>161912980
Down's syndrome and schizophrenia are definitely real but for the most part this is true. The reason homosexuality was taken out of the DSM was because people were starting to turn a spotlight onto it over political reasons, and psychologists didn't want people to look to closely and realized that their entire field is built on subjective bases.

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When is my Misaki gonna come

>>161913064
>People can change.
Yeah, and sometimes not without really intense therapy or something. That's what I mean.

>>161913158
Oh, then I agree 100%.

>>161913134
Hell, I wouldn't mind if my "Misaki", which deep down I know will never happen, was a guy.

>>161913078
Bipolar is real too.
The majority of things really are just social mores when you look at and consider them, though.

>>161913078
Down's is not a mental disorder, it's a genetic one
It doesn't even have only mental effects

Wageslave here. I suck jew dicks every day for a couple reasons:

-I don't want to leech off my parents who were wageslaves themselves. They're good people and I don't want to trouble them. When they die, I'll get their possessions which will help me escape waveslavery.
-The point of wageslavery is to escape. You need money to live the NEET lifestyle, which in the language of the common man is "retirement". Work hard so you can retire early and don't spend it on stupid shit, 3DPD etc.

Nobody sane would pick the banal, shallow life of a wageslave over being a NEET. You do it because you have to. If you're a dumbass with money, you turn into a Tonegawa-esque dreamer who will eventually die a horrible death in deep poverty.

NHK is fundamentally about characters who cracked under the pressure of Japanese society, and live in a limbo where they're trying to find acceptance. It's not about NEET v. wageslavery

>>161913190
I don't even know if I can take bipolar seriously because I've only ever seen it with childish women who take drugs. Not saying it isn't, just saying in my experience it seems like an excuse for doctors to dish out scripts and women to remove accountability from their actions.

>>161913192
Well, so is schizophrenia technically. It's been found to commonly skip generations in males, and can be observed physically instead of just behaviorally. My point is that with the current state of neuroscience you can only really guess about most forms of autism and mental illness, but there are some that have physical evidence.

>>161913211
In cases like that it's probably a misdiagnosis of borderline personality disorder--the two are frequently confused for each other even by doctors, and borderline is the more traditionally hysterical of the two.
Actual bipolar disorder is truly horrific when mismanaged. Hallucinations and delusions go beyond being childish.

>>161913205
I remember when Italy had "baby pensions"
Basically you work for 15 years and you had access to a low pension for the rest of your life
32 year olds were retired forever, fucking madmen

>>161908674
>The NEET life for the last 5 months have been killing me.
>5 months

the fuck outta here with this casual shit

>>161913237
Also I will say there's a reason, apart from the typical pharmaceutical shilling, that bipolar disorder is so heavily medicated, and it's because bipolar individuals are super prone to killing themselves, so doctors tend to throw medication at it to try and prevent that. Depressive episodes are at risk of suicide and self-harm and manic episodes are an even higher risk, so you doctors often opt to simply sedate bipolar people into something less volatile and more manageable. The downside is you end up emotionally dead inside most of the time.

>>161913297
Some random word salad in there, super tired, apologies.

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>>161913175
maybe a deal could be made with the /mtf/ on /lgbt/

>>161913256

If you can live within your means on low cost, by all means do it. You aren't being a leech on society.

The leeches are the debtors, the people who get into tons of credit card or student loan debt, and only pay off the interest, never care about the principals.

I feel like it's easier for Anonymous to understand, the anti-consumerist mindset. Buying shit and feeling proud you have it it is the most worthless existence, only topped by those who borrow shit and feel proud they have it. Once you hate the buy mentality, you can live frugally.

>>161913330
But I'm not gay. I probably should have said that I don't care where or who the support comes from, just someone who is wiling to give me a push.
I'll say it again, no matter how much I want my own "Misaki", no one in their right mind would want to help someone like me if they don't gain anything from it, like money which I don't have much of. I guess it doesn't hurt to dream, right?

>>161913386
>Buying shit and feeling proud you have it it is the most worthless existence
Depends on what it is
Look at /a/, lots of people here have anime figures, anime BDs/DVDs, posters and merch in general and they're very fucking proud of it
And why shouldn't they, what's wrong with getting nice stuff for yourself?
I think what's truly wrong is buying shit only to impress others

>>161900914
It didnt, but the light novel did to some extent.
>has sex
>cult
>addicted to pizza
>stalked by a HS cultist with depression
>drug use and 7/11

>>161913522
>HS cultist
HorribleSubs is a cult?

>https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B0Vyec-yHY6DYmNiMkg1dlZIelU
All the /fit/ books you are EVER going to need.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UtfZIbe6lVk9JmqHs0hfaDV9vcW7G-jpTRnJSEEHnmM/edit#heading=h.4pvaeu9klgro
NEET Improvement things

>https://www.infocounselling.com/how-to-overcome-depression/
>https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/a-z-mental-health/
>https://www.getselfhelp.co.uk//index.html
Other cool shit to try.

Seriously, let me help you help yourself.

>>161913461
Not the same anon, but
>Look at /a/, lots of people here have anime figures, anime BDs/DVDs, posters and merch in general and they're very fucking proud of it
>I think what's truly wrong is buying shit only to impress others
Isn't the reason why they're openly proud of their purchases, at least in this website, is that it would impress other anons? Of course most of them would buy it because they love the series, but I'm sure everyone, including myself, enjoy showing off just a bit.

>>161901010
>Made me realize watching NHK was a waste of time, it wasn't that good desu


Stupid ass normalfag the anime was great.

>>161913581
>everyone
Not everyone. I've never posted in a buyfag thread here.
And when I show merchandise to friends, it's because I'm expressing that I'm happy to have something I enjoy, not because I want to impress them.

>>161906353
Hey it doesn't specify that the doom is for you

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>tfw been a hikikomori for 11 years
>tfw you relate to Satou but are more hiki than he is
>tfw no Misaki to save me
>tfw i want to die
>Trying to recover for 2 years
>Failing

I hate myself this anime is too realistic it was like i was watching myself in a mirror.

>>161909562
Have you done this? This sounds awful and will just backfire. What worked for me was indulging with the feeling of needing to do something with my life until i was pushed off some kind of emotional edge into doing it.

>>161913581
But that's secondary, showing off the figures isn't the main thing, the best part is simply having them
Besides people are proud because getting a figure of your waifu is what the ancients did with gods and goddesses, they had shrines with figures of the symbols of their adoration

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>>161913674
Can you please tell me whatever it is on your mind? pic unrelated.

>>161913581

I see buying shit as a proxy for an inability to project ownership.

John Locke said, you don't own something until you've exerted your energies upon it. You have the opinion that something is good, but there is an urgency to prove it to yourself that you are correct.

Some people look to other opinions as validation. If I think it's good, and another anon thinks it's good, I must be right in thinking it's good.

For others, going to the effort of buying something is proving to themselves that they like it. If I didn't like this anime, I wouldn't have gone to all this time and effort to get this figurine.

That's a different mentality from thinking the fig is beautiful/sexy. I love fapping to figs, but I'm not going to go to the effort of buying one just to show to myself I like a series.

By contrast, I have a 20 GB image folder. How I exert "ownership" is downloading pictures.