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Are you ready for the good ending, /a/? It'll be very romantic!
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My wife Altair is so cute in her new outfit.
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>>161865697
Why doesn't Soda just fuck her?
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>>161865810
Soda (as Setsuna) will mindfuck him first, or he will tell Altair he is the reason Setsuna killed herself and the world doesn't need to be destroyed, just let it out on him
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>>161865537
is this show yuri?
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>>161866173
you'll have to watch 21 episodes to find out
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>>161866173
It's a story of redemption.
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>>161866173
We'll find out next episode
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>>161865537
I'm practically begging for the mindbreak.
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Why didn't they try using Altair's one true weakness to beat her?
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Leave Altair to me.
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>>161865810
>Souta-kun, we had this plan, but frankly, it feels like it's too complicated to work. Too many moving parts and it might consign us to failure, so instead, we did this.
>Considering the disproportionate number of admittedly pretty girls - one of which is effectively my daughter, but we'll get to that later - we decided to turn everything into a harem anime. You, of course, being the most bland person not on the crew and involved anyway, plus your weirdly accurate strike zone of the demographic enables us to employ this in such a way that we will not only be able to neutralize Altair's powers, but stabilize the world.
>We are writing you in as the Harem MC. This will significantly lower Altair's influence - after all, one of the rules of a successful Harem is just the right amount of non-lethal slapstick. She won't be able to get a lead over the others so quickly or brazenly because it'd get the others in a tizzy.
>You see, harems and waifus and "best girl arguments" are widespread, which means the trial/error ratio is significantly more volatile, but at the same time, carries less risk over people not accepting things. You're so easy to self-insert into aesthetically, that it'll pose little to no problem writing up a bevy of reasons. All you need to do is exaggerate a little, maybe trip. You look like Urashima Keitaro ... oh, it's before your time, don't worry, you'll get it.
>Still, it's a nice deal, isn't it? Juggling pretty girls, man I'm - Souta-kun, where are you going? Souta-kun?

WEEKS LATER

>I have no interest in a bland geek like y-you. F-Forgiving you or this-this world is not in my vocabulary, s-so b-burn! Saying things like that ... I dislike it - no, that's wrong, I ... blaming you is ... I suppose that I ... WH-WHAT AM I SAYING?! H-HOLOPSICON!
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>>161865537
I really try to figure out what the fuck is going on and why Altair have such godlike powers but I guess Im missing something.
All that planning and 4-5 creators (or more) cant figure it out what the holopsicon is and how to effectively counter it.
Really guys, Im trying to like this series but they sure make it hard for me to do so.
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>>161865810
Incest is wrong.
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>>161865810
Because Altair belongs with Setsuna
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>>161866584
You should just give up then.
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>>161866477
That reminds me of Aoi Toori (from Horizon). He cannot receive any lasting damage from females because the god he is "registered" to (Ame-no-Uzume-no-Mikoto) offers him protection in exchange for entertainment value. This meant that any and all attacks against Toori are nullified as long as it is set up as entertaining slapstick.
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>>161866584
>4-5 creators (or more) cant figure it out what the holopsicon is and how to effectively counter it.
Against thousands of creator they have no chance really. I can even see people making fan videos specifically about how Altair wins the ECF after the first episode aired.
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>Hat-kun assuming control
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Believe in the Golden Ending
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>>161866895
So are you telling me that an horde of amateur artists asspulling godlike powers for one characterare better than a couple dozen pros trying to do flesh out theirs in a believable fashion?
How come the people are accepting Altair so blindly?
If so, maybe this show is a critic to the actual state of anime / anime fandom
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>>161866973
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>>161866973
direct control
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>>161867084
I love how she even changes the clothes, the eyes and everything after she takes over, Altair's got Agent Smith powers.
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>>161867059
>How come the people are accepting Altair so blindly?
Because Team Government wrote that she is the big bad of the ECF and it's up to the "good guys" to find a way to stop her in an acceptable fashion.
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>>161867059
Altair was a god-like creation from before the show was announced. The other creators that had to do something with their already established characters in a very short time, and even their best writer couldn't push too much.
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Get your ass back here
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>>161866980
I do.
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>>161867148
Why not fight evil with evil? Summon Fat and Faceless Ojii-san
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>>161867064
Did he get his hat back?
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>>161865810
Because someone else already won the soda-bowl
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>>161867211
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>>161867256
As amazing as that would be, they basically spelled out that nothing they could think of, no matter how bullshit the power set, could beat Altair. She already had meme magic on her side, and now she's playing the crowd like a damn fiddle. Souta was given debug mode powers but even he would have been bested if he only thought of a character who was strong rather than using the only 100% definitive information they had on Altair's backstory. Anything they write as being capable of beating Altair won't work unless it has Altair's seal of approval.
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>>161867256
Altair is always floating though. Even if no anime girl ever would have acceptance in defeating the cock, she can still stay away of the cock or snipe the guy with the cock.
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>>161868101
Fat Faceless Ojii-san doesn't need approval. Just a hand on her shoulder.
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>>161866973
hat-kun was the villain since the beginning
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>>161867256
Nah. Train-kun's got this. You can't spell train without NTR.
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>>161867262
*READ IT
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>>161868101
Souta couldn't defeat Altair with any other character. The lie within a lie only works with the one who is cursed. When Magane cursed Souta, she got power over him, his possessions and his creations. If Souta used that to summon Sirius, she would exist regardless of that acceptance Meteora managed to obtain, but she would still fail because Altair is not cursed by Magane and her own acceptance would guarantee her win again.
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>>161868413
Until she reverses cause and effect. Only the train and Setsuna can defeat Altair.
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Cutie.
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>>161868608
I still say rewriting it into a Harem Genre production would work. I mean, Souta is friends with the bunch of them, anyway. Not like he's going to perv on Selesia or Meteora. Matsubara likes him enough to think he'd be responsible and not abusive of his role as the MC. It'd be interesting to see Aliceteria's role here, considering her one interaction with Souta had her re-thinking the nature of her struggles. Would she BEST GIRL by default?
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>>161866379
I dont get it
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>>161870108
Episode 1 memes
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>>161867148
Im taliking hopw come Altair was accepted even before that. She was absurdly powerful before team goverment were even a thing.
If Altair was so powerful and unconstrained because she had not the restraints from a univerese where she belongs because she have none to call her own, I find difficult to belive that a group of pro's had not studied the holopsicon throughly so they can counteract it and not having their characters owned.
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Wait I thought shark teeth gave Soda other power, not her own powers.
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>best girl Sirius introduced
>dies the same episode

T-t-t-thanks
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>>161870231
She didn't give him any power, it's just that she waited until now to uso no uso Setsuna into existence.
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>>161870231
She just released the lock to ensure Soda's plan would happen without audience acceptance. He just said "uso no uso" with her just for dramatic effect.
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>>161870158
They had plans though. Ability to lock and destroy all her fates that was interrupted by Charon and after that all 3 wouldn't be able to participate anymore. Hikayu was an overpowered warrior but since her power up was too much too fast she easily lost. They hoped people would cheer for the good guy and reduce her acceptance and therefore blocking any insta-win but instead people were cheering for her. And finally they had a second Altair to beat the first using one of the more broken powers she had if everything else failed. And then they also accepted Souta's part as a backup of backup plan that required a miracle.
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>No one even mentioned Selesia and Alice in this episode
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>>161870414
I like how their plans got more and more desperate and shift from good planning to just praying that shit works.
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>>161870461
YOU JUST GAVE HER THE POWER OF BLUSHING
STOP
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>>161870578
But it's so cute.
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>>161870679
POWER OF LOOKING AT PENGUINS AND DRINKING BEVERAGES

WILL HER POWERS EVER STOP GROWING?
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>>161866973
So hot
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>>161870722
never
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>>161870861
Power of destroying birdcages.
Welp.
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>>161869636
Just the thought of Soda being a harem MC makes me sick.
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>>161869636
>Harem show
This could actually be good if not for this >>161870932
The male creations are pretty dull anyway
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>>161865537
YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO END THE WORLD, NOT JOIN IT
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Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Altair? Let alone defeat her. And I’m not talking about Holopsicon Telekinesis Altair. I’m not talking about Fully Audience-Accepted Holopsicon Telekinesis Altair either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Sirius-Possessing Fully Audience-Accepted Holopsicon Telekinesis Altair with Yuya Mirokuji's Hankaku, Sho Hakua's Bayard, the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with her Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in her so she has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Sirius-Possessing Fully Audience-Accepted Holopsicon Telekinesis Altair with Yuya Mirokuji's Hankaku, Sho Hakua's Bayard, the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), with her fully accepted holopsicon capable of using The Third Movement of Cosmos: Representation Exposition, The Ninth Movement of Cosmos: Fate Restoration, The Thirteenth Movement of Cosmos: Outline Origin, The Fourteenth Movement of Cosmos: The Vicissitudes of Fortune, The Twentieth Movement of Cosmos: Factor Mimic, and The Sixty-Sixth Movement of Cosmos: Existence Change ALL AT THE SAME TIME( AND that doesn't even include all of the other Cosmos we haven't even seen yet). her two original Rinnegan (which grant her Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on her forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with her Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi
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>>161871606
and a Shakujō because she is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on her chest, her four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding her and nine Gudōdama floating behind her AFTER she absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so she can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I’m definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Altair with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as her Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in her so she has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye’s spinach. I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Altair with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with her Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as her Susanoo, summoning thousands of Alicetarias that'll fuck up everything before thinking, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in her and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
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>>161871606
>>161871642
10/10
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>>161870889
What is stopping Altair from just shattering the birdcage now? Surely she's gained enough acceptance by now to just break free.
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>>161866595
>Incest is wrong.
You motherfucker!!!
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>>161871897
The birdcage was going to collapse because the audience thought she finished her job there (or she would after defeating Blitz), and therefore it would lose it's reason to exist. What was holding her there wasn't Meteora, it were the gods of pleasure wishing them there for their entertainment. Now with Setsuna there, the audience will be again interested in keeping the bird cage until this last conflict is resolved.
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Some weird crossover.
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>>161872446
I don't know what that is.
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Celebrate labor day with the hard-working meido
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>>161872491
https://twitter.com/recreators_tv/status/904569957219876864
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>>161872446
Moonrunespeakers, translate for us plebs
Google says something about character popularity poll
https://twitter.com/recreators_tv/status/904569957219876864
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>>161870142
Remember when the story was so good back on episode 1?
Yeah, I wonder what happened to that.
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>>161872828
It continued good for some episodes, then we had a weird long pause between cours, then it became even better than the start.
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>>161872898
This twist was just silly. Everyone could see it happen a mile away.
And that's why it happened.
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>>161872813
Where are her arms?
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>>161873167
Behind her head.
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>>161873242

Faker.
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>>161871606
Pic related
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>>161873242
>Tracing a character traced off traced character
We need to go deeper
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>>161871303
>It's over Altair, I have the high ground!
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Setsuna is going to NTR Altair.
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>>161871606
A+
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>>161870548

Yuya yelled out Selesia's name at the beginning.
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>>161873242
I'm kind of sad that the government would be heartless enough to make a doll of a girl when they knew how the creations worked.
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>>161872898
WHY IS HER CHIN SO POINTY?
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>>161874572
ironically with that they proved Altair right, as much as how cute Altair is her PoV was flawed in the sense that creators didn't knew that the suffering is real for the creations, but now they gave a creation such a horrible existence on purpose for the sake of self-preservation, humans are coward beings who can throw away morals when it suits them
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>>161874657
Chins are hard to draw.
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>>161874828
You again?
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>>161866477
Cute! We need a tsundere Altair, STAT.
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>>161874922
me again what? that was the first time I posted in the last 20 or so hours
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Altair mindbreak rape doujins when?
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I really like Altair-Sirius' new design.
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Shark teeth literally saved the show.
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>>161874572
They are trying to save the world, flawless moral stand isn't a priority there.
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This shit is fucking retareded. How retarded would the audience be to choose Altair as the "hero" of the story when she has been acting as an obvious antagonist and a complete villain from the very beginning. Unless everyone in the audience has shit taste and actualy wants to see a shitty and egy OC kill a bunch of well-known and likeable character then it makes no sense.
Also, what the fuck was that "people struggling and failing in the end is what a story is about" shit? No, it isn't, that's literally the kind of story that people would fucking hate unless it was perfectly executed and that isn't the case here.
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>>161875128
Altair is an interesting villain and the meaning of death is fuzzy, so the audience wants to see where Altair takes them to, "knowing" it will be daijoubu in the end. It's all scripted after all. She has proved her power and overcome many obstacles, including a powered up sister of hers with the addition of holopsicon, so to the audience it's up to her now to find a way to redeem herself and to fix it all. At least that's my interpretation of what the audience sees.
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I really like her new design.
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>>161875333
But how can things be Daijoubu when she has defeated almost all the heroes already and it doesn't seem like anyone is expecting Blitz to turn things around?
This is the equivalent of having an anime about Smash Bros where all the characters fight Coldsteel together but get killed by him. There is no way anyone would like that, much less support Coldsteel.
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>>161875333
>Altair is an interesting villain
No she is not, because she got too little screentime and they never bothered with her development. Also since she's Mary Sue and knows everything, she's not that interesting to follow.
Shark revealing herself as a real villain would be more interesting than what we got
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>>161875374
It's a bit better, in fact.
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>>161875411
It's always darkest before dawn etc. etc.
She's no OC for the audience, but rather a character design that is comes from a music video.
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>>161875484
Shut up Meteora. We know you're upset you didn't turn out to be the main character.
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>>161875484
From a total villan, she has become an unexpected ally. I think she will be the only character that will remain in the real world.
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>161865537
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>>161875549
Meteora does not seem to be the type of character that wants to be a protagonist. She is literally a human info dump info that guides other characters by telling them what they need or what they can do.
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>>161875549
What the did you just propose to us, you little creator? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my order in the Ancient Library, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret Think-Tanks in the creators world and I have over 300 speculated concepts about how our worlds interact. I am trained in magic and I’m the final holder of a long line of magical book readers. You are nothing to me but just another datum. I will categorise and label you with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, please listen carefully. You think you can get away stating misinformation during this meeting? Reconsider. As we speak I am forming a network of magic across this dimension and your research is being copied and archived right now so you better prepare for the lecture, Student. The lecture that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call a theory. You’re terribly wrong, kid. I can speak anywhere, anytime, and I can inform you of over seven hundred hypothesis on this subject and that’s just with my Personal observations. Not only am I extensively trained in scholarly pursuits, but I have access to the entire collection of the creations and I will use them to its full extent to wipe your miserable theory off the agenda for this meeting, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your damn tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will speak wisdom all around you and you will get tinitus from it. You’re deaf, kiddo
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>>161875516
She a literal O.C., it doesn't matter if she comes from a music video or a devianart drawing.
Also, this isn't a "darkness before the dawn" scenario. Everyone is either dead or can't fight anymore, the O,C. they created to defeat Altair failed and they made it clear that no one is expecting Blitz to accomplis shit.
From the way the VN girl said it, the audience consider Altair the protagonist or "hero" of this story, which is stupid as shit because she is villanous as fuck, a Mary Sue and a one-dimensional character.
By this point people shoul he expecting her to be defeated, not supporting her after she murdered a bunch of beloved characters.
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>>161875684
I also find the premise quite stupid. Mostly :
>By this point people shoul he expecting her to be defeated, not supporting her after she murdered a bunch of beloved characters.

Where are Alicetaria fans now? The two kids? Did they really accept this crap?
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>>161875684
bestgirls going to save the day by taking over best korea then nuking japan
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Could Ea undo the birdcage?
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>>161875768
Ea doesn't work on a meta level so no.
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>>161866477
I am reminded of the early-episodes theory that Souta is himself a Creation, a school LN MC, with the Creation power to assemble a harem of powerful females.
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>>161875759
In fact that would just work. If all the fans are dead, the acceptance is zero and the worlds cannot collide anymore.
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>>161875902
>>161876270
They couldn't have created a bigger jobber if they tried
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>>161876326
>who is Aliceteria
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>>161876381
A good girl who does not deserve to be bullied, there was no way for her to have known that she should've punched the hat.
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>>161876397
Delete this, the only acceptable form of parent-child incest is mother and son.
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>>161876546
best creation and best creator best daughter and best father
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>>161876583
>taking it as something lewd
Slutty mahou shoujo
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>>161876583
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>>161876583
mother and father of mamika
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Holopscicon = asspull.

1000th asspull = rewrite the story.
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>>161866138
Soda will convince Altair that she's as much to blame for Setsuna's death as he is. Because instead of seeking help for her depression she shrank away further and further into her fantasies until it was too late.
And then Hideaki Anno walks out of the audience and gives them both a golden shower.
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>>161876727
Marche was such a douche
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>>161876699
>>161876727
nakama pawa>power of love> asspull
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>>161876727
>>161876727
aliceteria is kaworu sota is shinji
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>>161865537
If you were to describe this series to someone in less than 15 words, how would you go about it?
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>>161876888
>>161876727
altair is asuka
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>>161876912
Battle Royale involving characters from different stories. Also, the second cour sucks.
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two killer and autistic
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>>161876912
Interesting premise that the show takes every possible opportunity to waste.
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>>161876546
I want to see Alice smiling again
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killing best girl by sociopat and autistic kid
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>>161877025
i want to see them being happy
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>>161876664
best ship
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>>161876583
best ship
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>>161876912
It's not as bad if you're prone to hype
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If a character only needs acceptance to be summoned, why didn't they try to summon Jesus?
I haven't read the bible, but as the son of god he must have some sick special moves.
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>>161877454
>Jesus has the ability to turn water into wine
>theoretically since the human body consists of 60% water, he could give anyone he looks at instant fatal alcohol poisoning
OP as fuck.
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>>161877454
would be fun to summoned gnostic satan it would become best friend of suruga
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>>161866973
>>161869477
>>161872596
>>161873242
Sirius deserved better. How hard could it have been to make Sirius like her sister or something sent from her home world to bring her to task or something for abusing her powers instead of trying to absorb her or whatever. I literally came up with that story when she popped up.

I might have also been a little inspired by the story of Magnus and Leman Russ.
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>>161877454
you mean the sempai of suruga
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>>161877652
Give me Palmer Eldritch please.
>end of the world incoming
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>>161877654
Yeah, the Creators were a bunch of lazy fucks by not even giving Siris the most basic of personalities and some generic backstory.
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>>161877652
>>161877652
you mean the sempai of suruga
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Did anyone bother to check on Sho? He got wounded even worse than Yuya.
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>>161878588
Who?
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>>161878588
Faceplanted
I wonder why Blitz aims at her at all instead of tending to him. They are done.
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>>161878622

Sho is probably going to cube at the beginning of the next ep just to show how serious things are. All the damage from the swords that hit Bayard got transferred to Sho when Bayard got cubed. That shouldn't be survivable.
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>>161878673
>>161878673
shark dies in plane crash
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>>161878673
I don't think that anyone else is going to cube unless Altair goes psychotic on their asses again.
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>>161870327
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What is Altair like in bed?
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>>161879345
Infinite. Unending.
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Why is Mamika not talk enough? I think she's the best character in the show.

The way she follow her setting that she's a magical girl is hilarious.
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>>161872828
>implying a story CAN be good in episode 1

The foundations can be good, but in episode 1 there was no real story to speak of.

>>161872898
>"it continued good for some episodes"

>trying to pretend re: creators is good

It was literal shit all the way from episode 2-16. Stop doing revisionist memes because you're happy this piece of garbage finally picked up.
The few episodes before 16 were particularly mishandled.
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>>161879345
Infallible. Warm welcome. Curious development. A good performance.
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>>161879529

Jesus Christ. I posted this while watching episode 8 and she got killed.
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Sad Hime
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>>161880188
Can we instead keep contributing happy altair, so that she eventually turns deredere?
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>>161865537
mother and daughter finally reunited
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>>161877746
>>161877746
cthulhu an cartman>>>>suruga and gnostic satan
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>>161876912
Wasted potential of the decade.
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>>161865537
>we are are going to watch how altair destroys reality
what a time to be alive
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>>161880669
She'll bring it back if Setsuna turns out to be real or becomes real and asks her to.
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>>161876912
Mishandled, worst time management, almost zero character development, plot completely wasted, don't watch, meteora worst
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>>161880704
>Meteora worst
You got that... right!
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So... is Soda Pop masquerading as Setsuna by any chance?

Setsuna is wearing his glasses and they already established that she couldn't see with them.

>And if so, is he permanently stuck as a grill now
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>>161880744

I thought I'm the only one. I don't know why, but Meteora is kind of annoying.
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>>161881067
She is a pathetic waste of screen time with 0 personality, pretty much.
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>>161880997
He had to telelport inside of the birdcage if it was the case. But Souta and Setsuna really look like each other don't they? It's uncanny.
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>>161867481

>Heroes team is kinda boring and really just a jobber squad
>Altair is downright annoying, on top of her powers just the way she speaks pisses me off
>mfw I'm rooting for Soda/Shark tagteam since they actually shake things up in interesting ways without even bing a formal faction
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>>161881147
>>161881147
sota is setsuna time loop and paradox
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>>161876912
Inconsistent, shallow, too much talking, premise deserves better, wasted potential, but has some scenes, Alice best girl
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>>161881431
i believe in the golden ending. mother and daughter cook for father. father is takarada
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>>161881275
Truly best pair
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>>161881897
>>161881897
alice x takarada is superior
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>>161882249

B-But he's her dad...
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>>161881897
reminder that shark will die in a plane crash
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>>161882382
>>161882382
alice come back
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>>161882329
what is the problem altair x setsuna exist
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that will tell you setsuna to altair to destroy the mind of altair
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>>161879754
No revisionist for me, I enjoyed 2-13 and I was only annoyed by purely build up episodes with specials to make it even slower in the start of cour 2.
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>mfw I realized Altair was the MC and it was her story
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>>161883048
Thanks for triggering my PTSD with this pic. Now I remember the trypophobia version.
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>>161883048
We knew it since the start and episode 19 just confirmed. Only Altair would say something this chuuni for Souta.
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>>161883097
Hiroe even calls her the main character in the latest interview.
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I still can't believe she's gone
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>>161883618
She's in a better place now
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>>161883684
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>>161883722
Do you think Charon ever apologized?
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>>161883757
Might as well, his objective of ending the war as quickly as possible is already impossible any way.
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>>161883684
I know but it doesn't make me feel any better
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>>161883757
Charon did nothing wrong
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I want to rape Sirius.
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>>161875374
But what is with that ridiculous hat?
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>>161885403
Hat kun is all powerful
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>>161885443
It's just a dumb hat
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>>161884431
Let's all be mean to her and tell her that Setsuna deserved to die.
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>>161885455
Don't be mean to Hat-kun.
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>>161885484
You go right ahead and get Mamika'd.
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>>161885579
Might as well try to grope her then.
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>>161885888
Totally worth it in that case.
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>>161883757

What did he have to apologize about? He probably went "GOD DAMN IT SELESIA, we could've saved the world! For fuck's sake, we could at least have TRIED!"
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>>161885500
Stupid fucking gay ass hat, if she weren't to wear she would look a lot sexier like sirius
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>>161886736
>not liking girls with military hats
get the fuck outta here with your shit taste, only the hat and the boots should stay on during sex
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>>161866973
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
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>>161887131
Is Altair actually secretly the hat? Is all the "becoming and interpretation" just a red herring?
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>>161887198
naw altair left the hat behind cause she knew Sirius would pick it up and put it on so she could assume direct control
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>>161887198
Im pretty sure its a metaphor,taking the hat is like taking altair's existence
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>>161887131
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>>161883722
charon was teased, appeared again many episodes later and lasts only 1 episode

who the fuck thought it was a good ideia
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I dropped this show halfway. Is Altair gay yet?
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>>161887671
There was some bait. Nothing solid yet
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>>161887671
Maybe.
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>>161887671
No but you are
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>>161887671
No, she is too manly for that.
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>>161887671
no but she's amazing and her voice is sexy
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>>161887671
no, she's my wife
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>>161887904
You're dead, Setsuna.
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>>161887671
Altair is gay until proven to be bisexual.
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>>161888020
no Altair is Setsuna
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>>161887761
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>>161866973
>Tell me your secrets hat.
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I don't really like how Souta is about to end up being the one to save the day. I feel like they'll spin her wearing the wrong glasses into something positive about the relationship between Souta and Setsuna.
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>>161889364
Their relationship feels too shallow for me to care, the show doesn't make it look like they had much going on between them other than liking the same anime and being drawfags.
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>>161889593
He meant something to her but she didn't mean much to him until after she was dead.
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>>161889660
>>161889593
I really feel like the show would have been better off without Souta. His retelling of Setsuna's story doesn't add anything that couldn't have been found out by a government search. I get that they probably wanted to add a personal element to the story but all Souta's presence does it put an negative emotional spin on it.
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>>161889926
I don't think Souta has done anything to redeem himself for his faults against Setsuna, other than his long shot of a plot that worked with uso no uso, since episode 12. He has talked with Marine, Magane and Selesia but I don't even remember if he mentioned Setsuna to them at all.
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>>161890433
He's been working hard making contacts in the industry and government so Setsuna's death isn't in vain.
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>>161884611
>>161884665
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>>161890548
>building your career on a dead girl's grave
He should have been the first casualty.
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>>161890548
Yeah but Setsuna had to die for that, and Souta didn't even get to his position through merit.
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>>161890600
perfect
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>>161890600
Such power.
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>>161890677
Hit count up to three soon(8 if you count the ones Altair killed)
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Is shark the best morale support?
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>>161887671
Yes I'm her girlfriend!
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>>161887671
Altair just needs to fulfill her creator's final wish of getting the Soda D.
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>>161891551
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>>161867059
It's more like how Hatsune Miku is split off into many separate interpretations. She's one voice singing the phrases of a hundred thousand poets. Her stories don't all make sense within the same cannon, but at the same time the fans all know her when they see her.

Ene from Mekakushi Dan, Calne Ca, Black Rock Shooter, etc. It's less about knowing who the character *is* and more thinking about what the character *can be*. And she can be just about anything.
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I want to pinch Altair's cheeks, what do they feel like?
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>>161892786
Like pinching your own cheeks.
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>>161892884
If I rub her clit, what does it feel like?
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>>161893009
Like losing your hand.
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>>161875411
>This is the equivalent of having an anime about Smash Bros where all the characters fight Coldsteel together but get killed by him.

Not at all.
Unlike Coldsteel, Altair is actually liked.
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>>161893097
I feel sad when I think about Altair. So lonely, so fragile, born of suffering. No hope other than the urge and tenacity to end it all for a girl who meant no harm.
And I feel sad for Sirius, because she didn't know anything, thrust into existence only to serve, a beating heart, a soul, given not a moment to think.
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>>161893147
But what if rubbing her clit and her enjoying it will tremendously raise the approval?
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Let's invent new Holopsicon moves for Altair
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>>161875128
>o, what the fuck was that "people struggling and failing in the end is what a story is about" shit? No, it isn't, that's literally the kind of story that people would fucking hate unless it was perfectly executed and that isn't the case here.

Yeah, because people have never wanted a villaing to win or a tragic ending, right?
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>>161893751
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>>161894064
But isn't he like a pretty easy boss?
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>>161894101
None of her enemies have ever played even a minute of dark souls.

R.I.P.
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>>161893751
Holopsicon: The lord of dance
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>>161893097
it reminded me of the Polymerization card so I had to make it
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>>161893751
Meme materialization. Can materialize all memes across time and space into physical concepts, this includes memes made before the internet was popular and widespread.

No limit to how many or the rate at which she can do so.

So basically she should be able to implode the universe through infinite mass creating infinite density. Or she can do them one at a time. I recommend Mutli-Track Drifting projectiles, or perhaps even DEJA VU
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what are they doing...
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>>161894527
I think this is too vague and useless. Everything imagined is something you yourself haven't imagined to add it to her, after all.
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>>161894606
magical girl special friendship greeting.
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>>161894606
Introducing Alice to lesbianism
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>>161894522
neat
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>>161868571
Does Gabein help get his hat back, or maybe an even better hat?
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>>161892192
Altair was Hatsune Miku all along
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>>161895036
I'm waiting for a good fanart to make the card, the effects I have in mind are similar to Towers' with some other shit
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>>161867059
>So are you telling me that an horde of amateur artists asspulling godlike powers for one characterare

It's not that they are especifically making powers for her you idiot. she is turning seemingly innocuous things that happen in fanworks into powers.
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>>161895149
Don't compare Miku with his bad rip-off.
Altair is just an alternative version of some dumb JRPG character.
Miku is the queen of Otaku culture.
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What the fuck
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>>161895735
Apparently the last thing Setsuna did was create a sister design to Altair. It's interesting that Altair would know about it though.
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>>161895735
>commits suicide because people accuse her off ripping off artists.
Her last characters are an alternative version of an RPG character and an alternative version of Altair.
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>>161866477
I'm reading everything in this fucker's voice now. Help.

>Morty, we had this plan, but fra-URP-kly, i-i-it feels like it's too complicated to work. Too many moving parts and it might consign us to failure, so instead, w-w-we did this.
>Considering the disproportionate number of admittedly pretty girls - one of which is effectively my daughter, but we'll get to that later - we decided to turn everything into a har-URP-em anime. You, of course, being the most bland person not on the crew and involved anyway, plus your weirdly accurate strike zone of the demographic enables us to employ this in such a way that we will not only be able to neutralize Altair's powers, b-b-but stabilize the world.
>We are writing you in as the Harem MC. This will significantly lower Altair's influence - after all, one of the rules of a successful Harem is just the right amount of non-URP-lethal slapstick. She won't be able to get a lead over the others so quickly or brazenly because it'd get the others in a tizzy.
>You see, harems and waifus and "best girl arguments" are widespread, which means the trial/error ratio is significantly more volatile, but at the same time, carries less risk over people not accepting things. You're so easy to self-insert into aesthetically, that it'll pose little to no problem writing up a bevy of reasons. All you need to do is exaggerate a little, maybe trip. Y-y-you look like Urashima Keitaro ... oh, it's before your time, don't worry, you'll get it.
>Still, it's a nice deal, isn't it? Juggling pretty girls, man I'm - Morty, where are you going? Morty?
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I'm not sure, but Takarada may have killed Alice
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>>161895735
Setsuna didnt want Altair to be lonely
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>Doujin creations that also have fans adding into the universe are the strongest creations
How strong she would be?
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>>161896125
Musou Tensei is realtiy bending, so she can theoretically draw every character.
I am not even sure if Doujin works would count for 2hus since they all have a clearly established canon.
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>>161896108
Promising her success as her creator wasn't a good idea in hindsight. There is a large chance it influenced her to follow her urges and decide to attack instead of taking the more reasonable option of attempting to regroup with the rest.
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>>161896820

She was the hero of her world and accepted that role believing in the words of her creator.
Can't blame her for not knowing that she was just a supporting character.
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is it sunday yet
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>>161875768
Without a doubt. The Birdcage is basically a Reality Marble and look what Ea did to Rider's.
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>>161875190
MUH
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>>161875190
>Altair has a r63 holopsicon power
The untapped potential is limitless.
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>>161898587
>in a rage spurt she r63 the whole cast but the rest of the universe stays the same
this would be a good episode if this was a comedy
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>>161900244
If Altair becomes dere, keeps her powers and ability to come and summon to the real world the cast could have any kind of SoL episodes around tokyo and each character worlds. Too bad I doubt there will be any OVA.
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>>161895888
why?
she even knew about Sota
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>>161901330
Right but it's one of those things along with recognizing Souta that lends itself to the idea of there being a stronger connection between Setsuna and Altair than just creator and creation.
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>>161901566
The concet itself is heavily flawed, people expected it to be a trainwreck from the start.
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>>161901662
Yeah I mean I pretty much did too, but I expected them to plaster these fundamental loopholes, like Altair straight-up hijacking their master-plan just by being cooler than them, in the episodes leading up, but they literally did jack to establish it.
Show's been mismanaged from start-to-finish. Best we can hope now is they just play that great soundtrack and give us some flashy lights, but it looks like that's over with, anyway. We're going straight into the schmultzy ending nobody really wants or cares about.
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>>161897021
Still best girl tho
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>>161871606
Liked, shared and upvoted.
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>>161901845
>literally got bored of being in Re: Creators so she punched herself the fuck out to go back to a more successful fictional world
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>>161873206
She was such a cutie for how short she lived.
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>>161902032
she went out for a cuter cutie
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>>161902032
And still no character profile in the website, either normal Sirius or Sirius-Altair.
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>>161902461
I wonder if Hiroe did the original design sheets of them.
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>>161871606
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>>161902608
Even if he didn't, I hope the volume 8 or 9 will have Sirius and Altair-Sirius on the cover.
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I wish amazon would put some effort in the translations.
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>>161904122
they don't even bother translating important stuff
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Expression, convey, etc?
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>>161904208
it's a shame.
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I dropped this show around the halfway point. Who's dead now? Did they ever do anything with Charon?
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>>161904735
>Who's dead now?
everyone
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Who is this new altair? I dropped the show a couple of episodes ago.
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>>161901917
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>>161904849
That's best girl 2, the same as best girl 1 but stronger.
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>>161876727
Damn this really makes me think.
How would Marche respond to finding out his "normal" world was still a fake one created for the entertainment of higher beings?
I wonder if he would start feeling like a cunt for ruining another persons world. Especially when he realized that the antagonist didn't really have a choice, it was literally part of a story.
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>>161904942
>the gamebreaking powerful character gets an upgrade
I love this shit.
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>>161905078
And she was also smart enough to immediately drop the lance.
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>>161905209
Also, Altair doesn't seem to use magic circles anymore for summoning her sabers and her holopsicon is now violet instead of blue and she used it without pulling her ppsh.
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>>161905209
That Lance was fucking stupid.
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>>161905550
fug, she really got powered up
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>>161905577
well there isn't going to be anymore fighting so it doesn't matter much. still cool though.
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>>161905577
The violet is probably because Sirius is red (maybe the same color as Selesia's twitter power up in episode 10), and their colors got mixed.
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>>161905564
Not as stupid as Alice's
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>>161905564
Are you insulting Setsuna's last design?
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>>161906852
Her last design looks traced as fuck, man.
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>>161906852
It's like discount Labrys with a lance
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>>161906983
She looks more like something from blazblue than the p4a robots.
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>>161907105
She looks exactly like that MMORPG character they were clamming she traced Altair from.
What gives?
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>>161907129
Shiro is pretty different.
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>>161907156
setsuna really had a thing for twin tails.
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>>161908214
And sticks, good riddance.
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guys, japs are making fun of us

https://twitter.com/tokugaw20530999/status/904921148814532608
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>>161908334
youtube reaction posters deserve it.
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>>161908334
>of us
You are a shitty e-celeb who does reaction videos?
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>listening to Layers
>All I can think of is Alice, and how she's gone.

Gotta find a reason why my friends all died ;_;
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>>161908446
anime reactors don't even qualify as e-celebs
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>>161908334
i dont speak moonrune
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>>161908471
>To be with him
>To be happy
>oh Creactor
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>>161895735
i guess i misunderstood, i thought Altair is pissed off because the creators made a fake one based on her image and even copied her powers
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>>161909763
That would make more sense since they never shown her pixiv account before killing herself or implied that the government went to her house. Though on the other side Altair did integrate that design to herself, so she is at least comfortable with it.
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>>161908334
these reaction videos are cringe as fuck, why would I care if a fatty nigguh cries because his waifu died. The only reaction videos i watch are something from the likes of ifeelmyself
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>>161909907
Who was his waifu? I ain't clicking that shit nigga.
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Thinking about Souta as the God of Ink when there are so many better people and creators around makes me fill with disgust.
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>>161910497
maybe it will be Setsuna
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>>161910497
im sorry that you are not having enough pixiv views
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>>161910519
what if they melt into one being?
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>>161910526
That's really not it ;_;
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>>161910519
I hope so. Hopefully not this Setsuna born of necromancy and lie magic though.
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>>161910604
This statement kinda makes me think that Altair could have a bit of Setsuna.
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>>161910566
It's okay anon we can be ngmi together ;_;
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How come setsuna have no support anyway? with that skill she most likely have some circlejerk around her and probably meet up other than Soda
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>>161910729
The answer is probably no, considering she's dead and all.
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>>161910778
i mean when she is still alive and active in piclive, with those views and likes and followers, sure she had some twitter as well and talk to others.
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>>161904942
That was actually a pretty cool moment in the show. Too bad it's just "Wasted Potential: the animated series"
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I need Altair
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>>161894937
>>161894937
friend not girlfriend
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Can someone with a good internet speed (;_;) download this Re:C BD 3 and see if there are any extras?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0AkK4Mr-UPMQjZHUHRuenNvb0k
password: Upload by Rain_Sister's yuan47
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>>161910860

They needed a reason to kill her.
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>>161912797
yuri is degrading. alice is not a pedophile
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嘘と嘘、それはクルリツト裏返る。。
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previuw when
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>>161913123
18 hours
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>>161908334
>youtubers
literally who cares? also we make fun of them on a regular basis, so I don't see any problem
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>>161894101
If you're divine
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Show should have been called "Wish upon a shark"
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When's the fanservice for Altair?I want to see her pantsu.
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>>161915714
setsuna mindbreak+break the heart of altair son sota deus ex machina shark die stupid
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>>161915714
setsuna mindbreak+ break the heart of altair soon sota deux ex machina shark die stupid
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>>161915714
Altair is not for lewd.
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>>161915942
For all her fanart she really doesn't have much lewds.
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>>161914965
Should've just made the whole show all about Shark.
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>>161916963
With a lot of guns though, hearing her talk people into killing themselves all the time would get boring.
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>>161917651
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>>161917651
What would be Shark's favorite gun?
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>>161917756
She looks like an AK-74U kind of girl to me
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>>161917756
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>>161865537
if takarada=miura it means that takarada is idol fag or maho shojo fag
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>see episode 17
>"oh cool well this has been terrible thus far but at least we're at the big fight and GOAT soundtrack scenes"
>episode 18 was so-so, little too much talky, not enough action
>episode 19 was very good, beautiful
>episode 20 was half action half asspulls and talking zero use of music and made the plot look as dumb and paper-thin as it really is

They couldn't even give this show a fitting climax for more than two episodes out of the final six.
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pacing is a big problem of this show
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>>161918598
meant for >>161918516
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>>161918598
I want to see Alicetaria slaughter endless hordes of demons.
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>>161918624
It is, they don't even know when to blow their load on action and when to talk. They shouldn't need to talk here, they had plenty of time to build up.

>>161918671
I'd really like an Alice spin-off in her actual story post-Re: Creators. Still haunted by what happened/the knowledge she's a fictional character, yet driven to save her world nonetheless.
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>>161865537
Homosexuality is immoral.
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My dick REQUIRES more dark Meteora.
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Altair is so cute she makes funny faces
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>>161890958
I still don't understand how she could be that fucking lewd.
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>>161900244
It would be a nice OVA.
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Does this mean Altair is going to get teleported at multiple locations like a flashback like in half life?
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>>161893097
Horobusiscon: the 69th movement.
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>>161919049
It's too many locations to be something important.
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>>161919049
I took it as the birdccage about to fail and the world about to end.
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>>161919614
NIs this for ants?
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>>161918671
>Alice, a beautiful princess knight, acting like a medieval Doomgal
Yes, this is exactly what I want now, this is perfect
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>>161908334
>people actually cried
how?
even if 19 was a good episode i didn't really feel anything for those we lost
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>>161919614
Scans when?
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>>161919758
Isn't it just the best? She can go after magicians, final bosses, armies of demons, her family members, just make enemies of everyone and slaughter them all in various ways, in the name of peace. It's gold!
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>>161917756
I wonder
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>>161919894
>Isn't it just the best? She can go after magicians, final bosses, armies of demons
Yes, this is the greatest thing ev-
>her family members, just make enemies of everyone
wait, what?
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Altair should be free from copyright claims
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>>161920830
It's a medieval setting so it's not unlikely she has to fight with some other nobility. It could be over the throne itself or preserving something, there are a bunch of ideas you can pick and choose from
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>>161921130
Would you still watch her show after she died like a dog in the crossover?
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>>161921174
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>>161921174
She's inspiring. Altair is an unsurmountable obstacle.
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>>161921507
>>161921507
leave altair for my
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>>161921507
>>161921507
i believe in the golden ending
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>>161921174
Her sacrifice was a very important part of Matsubara and Meteora's plan.
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>>161908334
As well they should. Everyone should be making fun of that garbage. Or better yet, pretending it doesn't exist.
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>>161865537
>Altair will kill Setsuna because she is not her 'Setsuna'
>This in turn created another Altair, but instead of hating the world she hates the Altair that killed Setsuna
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>>161923212
Think I saw this in another thread. I'm pretty sure that this is the route they'll take.
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>>161923298
It's pointless though, since the current Altair is stronger than Setsuna's Altair. And she won't lose acceptance since she will make it clear that this was a fake and an asshole move.
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>>161923212
>>161923298
>>161923582


or this >>161874025
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>>161923582
She has to be strong enough to shatter the birdcage now. Meteora and the others mentioned it a couple of times that it was possible.
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>>161923819
The timelines overlap between Sho's fight and Meteora's spell, so they didn't spare her time to break the cage.
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They will never reveal whether Alice is ripped or not,isn't it?
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>>161924295
on the bright side, you can assume that she is
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>>161924295
The characters that were killed will live on in their own worlds, oblivious to what happened in the World of the Gods. The ones that survive will go back to their worlds with the full knowledge of what happened (or will stay in the real world, like Shark).
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>>161924295
Last volume will have a beach episode OVA featuring everyone (even the VAs).
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>>161924295
Is Takarada a man who likes ripped girls?
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>>161924295
At this point our only option is to hire Yakuza and tell them to kidnap and interrogate Aoki and Hiroe. That way we can also force them to give Alice a better ending
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>>161925535
I wonder if Sirius (Altair) will still use the PPSh or another gun.
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So how did Altair pick her opponents? Was being popular enough of a metric? Was Setsuna's taste involved? Did she make her choice knowing ECF would happen in the end?
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>>161925752
I don't think she needs to but she might just out of preference.
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>>161925758
>Was being popular enough of a metric?
Probably considering she picked when the anime was airing for vogelchevalier and monomagia, code babylon while the death of Erina was still fresh, Meteora after they announced the console port.
>Was Setsuna's taste involved?
Probably as well since they still were very restricted by genre, and since Souta was pulled makes a stronger point to Setsuna's feelings being the key to pulling the characters between worlds.
>Did she make her choice knowing ECF would happen in the end?
No, she only found out by episode 15 and she is clearly not aware of how exactly the universe works and was experimenting during the first cour.
>>161925898
I'm sure if she uses the "full force holopsicon" she'll draw the gun and maybe even play it more than once or chant/sing.
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>>161926048
Well as long as she doesn't try to play it with that lance Sirius used. Lances are too dangerous.
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>>161926048
It's a crackpot theory but it does point me to evil Meteora. I just can't trust Altair to tell the truth when she told the most obvious lies to Alicetaria early on in the show.
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To be frank, Sota's idea of having Altair and her creator meet could seriously backfire on him. The sight of her creator whom she knows is dead could drive Altair even more over the edge.

And I"m still confused as to how these creations even come to exist in the real world. At least fate/shit explains this.
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>>161926555
She did not lie though, besides obviously omitting that even if Aliceteria succeeded in changing her world she planned to destroy it with all of the others anyway. Meteora also says Altair is honest even if she was clearly hiding her true intentions.
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>>161926591
>And I"m still confused as to how these creations even come to exist in the real world.
It's because they literally don't know. Only Altair and real Setsuna know what happened that day.
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Where is she going?
The show is only worth watching with her.
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>>161926591
If the glasses are going to be a clear give away to Altair.
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>>161904942
>muda da
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>>161926770

that moment was so cheesy

i liked it
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>>161926660
That makes it a lie by omission. I'm digging through her dialogue to understand what her goals are. I feel like she's lying to Blitz in episode 15. It probably turns all of her words into lies until the beginning of the battle except when she killed Mamika but otherwise it's her losing focus by putting her omnipotence to a test in the best situation team government could hope for.
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>>161926967
She didn't lie to Blitz either, except if you mean that she omitted that she knew they were going to revive his daughter. She said that he shouldn't come back (since it would mean they'd have to fight and he would just lose) and just enjoy the time with his daughter instead.
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>>161926967
>by putting her omnipotence to a test

I thought it was more about her contempt for them and her desire for crushing them in a more satisfying manner.

>>161927068
>She said that he shouldn't come back (since it would mean they'd have to fight and he would just lose) and just enjoy the time with his daughter instead.

I'm pretty sure that's the case
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>>161926770
Anywhere but Japan. She just wants to live a peaceful life.
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>>161927286
Shark SoL spinoff when?
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>>161927068
Well what the was she planning to do if she only just knew what Meteora's plan was? It doesn't add up.
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>you will never be able to say "uso no uso" together with her

Why even go on living?
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>>161927459
Make people accept that she can win against any hero and destroy the world, the safest way for her to achieve it.
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>>161927393
There's already an awful manga.
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>>161927834
It's not SoL though. It's slice of spook
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>>161898587
>"Holopsicon, the sixty-third movement - Gender Bender"
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Is World Etude in any of the albums they released for this show?
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>>161928212
No, there is only the short version (first 1:30 out of 3:59). There are probably spoilers about Altair of the end, or they simply don't intend to release the rest.
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>>161927597
I don't know, it feels like she spent a decent amount of time planning everything out. Interestingly she never interacted with Shark and she has apparently shat all over her plan so I don't even know how she came to be or where she really stands.
>>161928060
I really like her new gloves.
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>>161927597
There's no way Shark could defeat every conceivable version of Demonbane!
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>>161928467
>he never interacted with Shark and she has apparently shat all over her plan so I don't even know how she came to be or where she really stands.

Well Shark was always a wild card.
No one could predict that she would fall in love with Sota
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>>161928467
I miss the bulky metal gauntlets but I guess they wouldn't fit that well with the sleek looking upgrade.
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>>161928623
Why would she even get Shark involved then? Or rather, if she wasn't supervising her summoning, why would she not get her involved? Did she just release her into the wild only to have a significant contact with Alice the known threat or Souta? This is so confusing.
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>>161928928
Could have been a calculated risk of some kind since Altair knew she would stir up some trouble. It probably has more to do with the fact that Hiroe just kind of tossed her into the story as a final after thought though.
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>>161928928
Altair just wanted chaos on the start. She figured out Magane wouldn't help her anyway and just let her do her thing, and maybe assumed she would do something more straightforward like challenging her directly together with Aliceteria. If she expected Magane to interact with Souta or not we will know this saturday.
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>>161928928
gee why would she bring a chaotic character when she wanted to create chaos?

also there are conditions for what characters she can bring >>161926048
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>>161928928
What made Magane decide to run after all these months?
How did the early summonings happen against Altair's will? Did they in the first place?
Why did she get Charon to fight Selesia instead of herself or literally anyone else?
Why did she get ahold of Sho who was part of an ECF series and not Hikayu who had to be added specifically?
What would happen to Hikayu if it was the opposites?
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>>161929281
>What made Magane decide to run after all these months?
She is just enjoying peace and dumb people who knows nothing about magic around.
>How did the early summonings happen against Altair's will? Did they in the first place?
They weren't against her will, she clearly pulled everyone by herself. She only had some conditions or just preferences as to when and who to pick.
>Why did she get Charon to fight Selesia instead of herself or literally anyone else?
Because she wants to entertain the audience.
>Why did she get ahold of Sho who was part of an ECF series and not Hikayu who had to be added specifically?
There would be no point of having a non combatant on her side, and Syo was picked with the same logic as Charon, to entertain the audience.
>What would happen to Hikayu if it was the opposites?
Altair wouldn't leave her alone on the streets if she needed Hikayu on her side.
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>>161929281
>Why did she get Charon to fight Selesia instead of herself or literally anyone else?
That one is easy. It was all to produce the most drama possible for the wonderful audience.
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>>161927834
>awful
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>>161929503
Why would she completely forget about Magane instead of eliminating her as a risk factor before getting into the ECF?
Why is her survival important or even relevant if her goal doesn't involve her in any way as it stands?
Why did she pull Meteora first and spent an undetermined amount of time with her?
Why did they push this idea of a "miracle" for the three episodes of the preparation so overtly and make Setsuna's appearance so obvious to any remotely keen eye?
Why did she take away Hikayu's plot twist powers if she was looking for extra chaos?
Honestly I really want to believe she hasn't been winging it all from the beginning, but the way she murdered Mamika in a spur of rage is just a solid statement for it.
>>161929510
How does drama help her achieve her goal? Because it makes a tragic side story, a distraction for the audience? Did she bring in Charon to present her own argument as the villain?(I hold the key etc.)
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I'm not saying the show is well written but it looks like it's definitely not for brainlets
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>>161930100
>>161930100
Yeah and just think about the painful lengths we had to suffer through as they explained all these concepts.
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>>161930040
>Why would she completely forget about Magane instead of eliminating her as a risk factor before getting into the ECF?
>Why is her survival important or even relevant if her goal doesn't involve her in any way as it stands?
Because the risk is what makes the story more entertaining. Which is why she didn't simply erase everyone from the start.
>Why did they push this idea of a "miracle" for the three episodes of the preparation so overtly and make Setsuna's appearance so obvious to any remotely keen eye?
Just to show how the only chance they had against Altair was a miracle.
>Why did she take away Hikayu's plot twist powers if she was looking for extra chaos?
Because she is directing the ECF. Aliceteria is just a support character that can't beat the main boss alone, Selesia arc was with Charon and Hikayu wasn't known as a fighter so it wouldn't make sense her getting powers and being relevant in such a fight.
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>>161930100
the concepts are interesting but sadly they don't go too deep with them and the presentation is more convoluted than it should be, so if you have the attention span of a goldfish you will not understand some parts and certain events will look like asspulls, so it's not so much brainlets, it's people who want everything spelled for them
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>>161930361
>Because the risk is what makes the story more entertaining. Which is why she didn't simply erase everyone from the start.
The thing I don't get about this is that she never even interacted with Magane, and neither is she in ECF-at least in title only. So from the audience's perspective she may as well not exist. There was no reason to keep her around and it's about to bite her in the ass in the worst possible way.
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>>161930040
>How does drama help her achieve her goal?
Because the more interesting the story, the more the audience will want to see what she will do next and the more they acknowledge (accept) her character. If they think she is just a villain that will job at the end she will be weakened, if they are actually convincing that she is unstoppable and capable of destroying the world she will be strengthened. As an example the audience didn't accept Sirius victory, and by winning against such a powerful enemy the audience also allowed her getting a power up and the overall victory.
>>161930687
Altair isn't omniscient, so if it's a mistake it's a fairly honest one since Magane by herself would never have any chance if not for a very particular setup that only happened because Souta ended up by accident in the center of everything.
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>>161930100
To be honest some of these may be clues for a major twist which leads to a bad end but it doesn't look like it will go beyond Altair v. Souta, redemption and resolution. It's just so safe to assume nobody has a hidden agenda. Which is a shame! It's all the prologue's fault.
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Would you a shark?
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Sirius fight was the best one in the series so far
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>>161931790
I want to jump the shark
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>>161931923
nah, it was Sho
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>>161931923
Needed to be longer but it was pretty good.
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>>161931923
Seeing distressed Altair and the initial nuke made it worth it
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>>161931790
>not wanting shark to rape your virgin ass
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>>161931923
Best fights:
Mamika vs Selesia
Mamika vs Altair
Selesia vs Altair on episode 1
Everything with Syo or Hikayu
Sirius vs Altair

Average fights:
Bridge fight
Aliceteria vs Meteora
Sluteora vs Altair
Selesia vs Aliceteria
Vogelchevalier (+Gigas Machina and Meteora tanks) vs Altair
Gigas Machina vs Aliceteria
Whatever I don't remember.

Worst fights:
Gigas Machina vs clone Gigas Machina
Yuya vs Altair
Anime version of Yuya vs Magane (Yuya fell too easy)

All of them were short, but it's probably budget constraints.
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>>161931949
How heavy is Shark's Shark week?
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>>161932444
It's disappointing that Gigas never had a good match up. Like the only purpose it really had in the ECF was to bring Sirius through.
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>>161931790
STICC
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>>161932862
sexy sticc
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>>161933298
completely forgot about upskirt
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>>161931060
>Altair isn't omniscient, so if it's a mistake it's a fairly honest one since Magane by herself would never have any chance if not for a very particular setup that only happened because Souta ended up by accident in the center of everything.
Knowing she got caught by surprise by Sirius I think you may be right. Honestly she needed any creator and not just Souta to influence the story when it came to negating acceptance but I guess it works with him the best. I still want to see him shit the bed because that would make the things all the more interesting.
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>>161933559
>I still want to see him shit the bed because that would make the things all the more interesting.
I really expect that to happen. The way he talked about a miracle happening in the prologue makes me think what finally causes Altair to stop won't be something Souta or any of the other creations does.
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>>161933559
>>161931060

I'm pretty sure she could have known their every move if she wanted, but chose not to since she wanted to give them a chance.
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>>161933559
>she needed any creator and not just Souta to influence the story when it came to negating acceptance
Except Altair would destroy any other summon, including some half-assed Setsuna by someone that never understood her or that she never trusted in the first place. Sirius had acceptance, the same strength and powers and was set to use an insta-win ability without hesitation and still lost.
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>>161934106
But then they could give the holopsicon to any of the characters, like Selesia and if they did it at the right time I'm sure she'd struggle to make a comeback.
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>>161931790
There's no way I would fuck Shark in every orifice until she couldn't even speak from the overwhelming pleasure!
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>>161934253
>But then they could give the holopsicon to any of the characters

they did, they gave it to Meteora
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>>161934289
Meteora's holopsicon is weak for the underdog story purposes. Otherwise she'd rise to become the final boss instead of waiting for the universe to break.
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>>161934337
Meteora's summoning ability is the same as Altair's since in the spin-off she is the world hopper recruiting characters. It's just that she has only one meta ability, while Altair has hundreds. And the amount of summons was already near the limit, so neither Altair nor Meteora could bring many characters.
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>>161934253
Yeah they could probably give anyone a powerful spell like that by ignoring acceptance but they still can't get around acceptance required to ultimately beat Altair in a fashion that the audience will buy.

That was sort of the problem with Hikayu. She was really strong but while the audience may have liked it, they couldn't buy into her actually being the one that could stop the big bad.
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>>161934560
I'm just saying, Selesia would make a better choice of a heroine to defeat Altair than Sirius. What I understand is that they say it's her lack of personality, depth that makes the audience fail to think a battle would be over by then.
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>>161934935
>Selesia would make a better choice of a heroine to defeat Altair than Sirius.
Possibly. Meteora and Matsubara picked Sirius because she had what the other didn't, power. But like Altair said, clever logic is slave to emotions. They made a plan that sounded valid, but ignored how the public would feel about it. That said Selesia also didn't have power, and building towards giving it to her would fail since she didn't even survive until the climax.
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>>161934935
>That said Selesia also didn't have power, and building towards giving it to her
Yeah that's the other major issue. Meteora and the others would still have to foreshadow this new power it in someway in their tie stories. So then it's more or less the same issue with Sirius. They need a secret weapon but they have to foreshadow it but they couldn't go too much in depth without tipping off Altair. The audience may not buy it since it would be so underdeveloped.
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>>161935121
missed there
>>161935228
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>>161918781
Homosexuality between anime girls is the most moral thing you can find
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>>161865537
I'm not sure whats going on in that image but I like drama like that. Really tugs the heartboner. I think I'll pick it up.
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Can someone briefly explain why Shark couldn't just uso no uso Altair out of existence the moment it was apparent that she's up to no good?
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>>161935228
They did have a power up (the Selesia, Rui, Alice combo) that could defeat Altair, but since Altair had it figured out she planned a counter with Charon that would give her the best acceptance. They would need something much better than simply giving Altair's powers to one of the characters so they wouldn't fail in the same way as Hikayu (or much worse, like getting Sirius fate).

To be fair they were already fucked. They had one short spin-off for each story and 1:30 movie to power up against someone with thousands of hours of content. She probably even got fanvideos about the ECF after the characters and setting were announced giving her the tactical advantage.

>>161935593
Magane's power make lies become truth for the one who denies it. The limitation is that one must deny it to be affected, so she can only erase Altair if she herself deny Magane's lie. And considering that Altair has the same ability but unrestricted, she might even be able to tank it anyway (like reversing the reversed cause and effect using the holopsicon).
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Is Altair cute?
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>>161936018
The cutest.
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>>161936018
She's my wife and she's so cute.
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