Dragon Ball Super

>>161849344
Except that's fucking wrong Pablo.

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>>161849344

Looks like more shit is gonna go down next episode.

Hopefully as the ToP continues we get to see more episodes with tighter pacing so we can have more things happening in each episode for a change.

That Would Be Nice!

Preview Reminder

>>161849344
>SSG
SSJG
>SSGSS
SSJGSSJ
Here, I fixed it all for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1iF9OSYHlY

BIG

>>161849407
Is Maji Kayo going to survive against Hit and then fight Dyspo, or will he beat Dyspo and then face hit?

>>161849407
Where the fuck is Frieza

is merged zamasu immortal?

>>161849407
its going to be shit until october when goku gets his new form. Then it'll proceed to be shit once again right after

>>161849661
No

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>>161849437
Pedro pls.

Reminder that Gohan is the best.

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>mfw Cuckhanfags

I've lost all hype for Jiren, this is getting retarded.

I had really high hopes and they keep getting dashed and all we get is some threatening cold glare every few weeks

Fuck this show I wish I wasn't a slave to my nostalgia.

Maybe I should just start watching Pokemon again instead

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>>161849344
Reminder that Mai loves you all.

>>161849344
Starting the thread with bait already?
Read the manga.

The animation is getting lazier guys.

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>>161849974
⬑truth right here.

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>How to piss off /a/

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>>161850148
>Trunks discarding her slut grown up version for loli
Is that why they love Torankusu so much?

Hiroshi Yamaguchi SUCKS.

Worst DBS writer.

He wrote episodes 96,101,106.

Gave us moments like:
Douchebag Caulifla
Kale controlling Berserker mode out of nowhere.
Meatshield Piccolo
Dumbed Down Gohan
Tien being the dumbest fighter in the ToP.

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>>161850231
>Kale controlling Berserker mode out of nowhere.
yeah that won't be in the manga!

>>161849567
He's going to tentacle rape Dyspo and then leave him in the tournament to get his ass pounded a third time.

>>161850184
Don't forget Gohan went Mystic after sitting still and having his dormant power drawn out for free

>>161850273
Just like all those other moments you didn't like until they were in the manga, then you started to defend them because "o-our guy."

>>161850184
He's not wrong.
>>161850338
>b-but Gohan!!!
The post is about Vegeta.

Piccolo is doing worse than anyone else on the team.

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>>161850185
Stop projecting anon

>>161849974
>not a picutre of Vegeta, Frieza, or Piccolo Daimo

>>161850355
>He's not wrong
He is me and I know I'm right.

>>161850299
Thanks doc

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Le egyptian slut of recycled animation.

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>>161849344
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>161850393
How can he be me if I'm you?

>>161850156
Manga isn't canonn toyocuck

>>161849344
Vegeta is going to jobb before Roshi.

>>161850443
Whatever you say Toeidog.

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Apparently Frieza's race can have hair

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>>161850454
How wrong you are. Next weeks spoilers here anon.

>>161850473
Whatever you say, Toyopajeet.

>>161850426
Which episode introduced her magical girl fighters? I remember actually getting pissed off every time she showed up in-frame knowing exactly what I was going to see for the next 2 seconds.

I swear she did that >6 times

>>161850388
>Vegeta
Not the best DBZ villain.
>Freeza
Not the best DBZ villain (but close).
>Piccolo Daimao
Not a DBZ villain.
So the picture is right.

I wonder what would happen to DBS threads if we range banned turd worlders?

>>161850355
Everything is about Gohan.
>>161850480
Replace Vegeta with Gohan and it's accurate.

How is nobody talking about how Tien went out?

>>161850259
thanks drawfag

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Reminder that SS Full Power Goku is beautiful.

>>161850259
Thanks doc

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>>161850549
>Replace Vegeta with Gohan and it's accurate.

But he's busy

>>161850604
true
jiren wouldn't last more than a second. Gohan doesn't have time to waste on that trash.

>>161850478
lol

Why is the animation for DBS so terrible?

>>161850184
The fuck? Vegeta is never seen using SS2 until he gets the Majin power-up, and even then he isn't said to be anywhere NEAR SS3 or Potential Unleashed, and is still within the realm of SS2 Goku/Angry SS2 Gohan.

>>161850259
Needs more Naruto running.

>>161850647
why waste the effort if people are still gonna watch it

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>>161850642
Bamco really dropped the ball not letting us give our Frost Demons sick mohawks.

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>>161850647
>Why is the animation for DBS so terrible?

That's a little too much praise there anon

>>161850478
What? Where is that from? Is it official? Did they give a name to Freeza's race already?

What's the point of Frieza if he hasn't shown up in ten episodes except for that heart scene in the Ribrianne episode?

>WE NEED MORE GOKU!

>>161850478
frieza race have bio clothes so they can literally grow anything

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>>161849407
I knew this preview reminded me of something

>>161849344
I noticed that a few episodes as of late was drawn in the same style as HxH. Or at least attempting to since it feels like someone from there is directing it.

But fucking christ who is writing this shit? I only watch it for the shitstorm but this is getting to be too much.

And where the fuck is Freeza? Like 10 episodes and less than 3min of screen time.

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>>161849344
Soon

>>161850542
Cell literally takes all his best traits from Frieza therefore Frieza is the best DBZ

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HAAAAAAHHH!?

>>161850781
Do you really think the super team is able to animate him?

>>161850729
Concept art for Dragon Ball Heroes Frieza avatars by Akira Toriyama.
>>161850738
Frieza's second form seems to imply they wear normal shit on top of their bio armor too.

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>>161850781

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>>161850781

>>161850259
>those piccolo arms
Top kek

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>>161850818

>>161850800
I wanna fug her.

If king cold was in his second form and pretty much on par with mecha Frieza , how strong would he have been in his final form?

>>161850826
L-lewd!!

So, am I forgetting something or does Goku have an actual reason to try and have a shooting fight when he can literally teleport to the enemy?

>>161850542
Cell is just a green autist goku

>>161850879
He likes giving his non-lethal enemies a fair chance.

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Reminder that everyone's favorite part (and the only good part) of DBS is a copypasta of Toyo fanfic Xicor, le evil kai saiyan Goku Black xD

>i-it's ok when toriyama does it but not when anyone else does it

>>161850797
Cell is still better.
>>161850880
How's he an autist?

>>161850259
Sauce on these?

>>161850928
But my favourite part is the training bits before ToP.

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All jokes aside, how do we feel about various scenes being reused to this extent?

Also Mystic Chadhan ™ will achieve super saiyajin snow and will 1 shot Jiren. Screenshot this because it will be canon

>>161850943
Some autismo here draws them.

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>>161850571
Tien could have literally just let one of them stay on the ground and regather in that one's body.

>>161850826
He's already been reincarnated, anon.

>>161850954
I too enjoy worthless filler episodes that don't even characterize properly

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>>161850800

>>161850994
Source: your derriere.

>>161850994
Does Cell even have a soul?

>>161851017
As opposed to worthless episodes that don't characterize properly, but are even worse because those episodes are supposed to be important?

>>161850941
>no argument
>s-still better

sasuga cellcucks

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>guys ability is reflection of ki
>vegeta sends him off with a Galick Gun

>>161850231
>Douchebag Caulifla
Redundancy at its finest, and because of it being so redundant I can't pinpoint what exactly did she do that you are faulting the writer and not her.

>>161850928
I don't, Zamasu is one of the worst villains ever in DB along with General Blue, King Piccolo and Babidi.

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>>161851088
>Zamasu is one of the worst villains ever in DB

Punk ass ningen motherfucker.

>>161851040
He's not a robot, so he must have one.

>>161851118
>le ningen xd
Fuck off reddit.

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DragonBall GT wasn't good and didn't have original concep--

oh

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What the fuck, was Tien literally going to kill the guy here?

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>>161850259
>Vegeta is the one giving the bad advice
Pottery.

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>The local Tenshinhanfag's entire state of existence

Just face it, ol' three eyes is not only the second strongest human, he didn't do a pretty good job at the tournament either. At least Krillin got K.O.'d by Frost. I will say this though, at least he got a draw.

by the way, it's canon that he has absolutely no interest in Lunch/Launch. She lived on the dude's farm hoping to make him fall in love with her, but he rejected her advances every time until she outright left. He's an asexual at best and gay for Chaozu at worst.

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>>161851057
Are you implying that Cell being the best villain isn't obvious?

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I'm just gonna leave this image right here

>>161851145
GT managed to make Dragon Ball so uninteresting that it only lasted 64 episodes.
The only good things it did was end early and not being canon.
The worst offended was the nostalgiafag pandering in the last episode, and them forcing that Baby shit along with the rest of DB and DBZ battles.

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>If Tien went Majin where would the "m" go?

>>161851165
>Vegeta is the one setting up the plan that is about to save the universe.

>>161851214
Baby and Shadow Dragons were better than anything in Super by fucking landslides you ignorant child

This is you
>fuck previous lore
>fuck build up
>fuck ingenious concepts that harken back to even chapter one of the original manga
>le Gods eppppiiiiicccvcc xD

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>>161851088
>King Piccolo
>one of the worst villains

>>161851213
I rather you stop spamming that unfunny crap.

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Believe it!

>>161851271
Go be irrelevant elsewhere Pedro, or even better, go make a GT thread so you can focus on the two replies you'll get before it dies.

>>161851040
King Kai talking about how it was strange he could not feel Cells dead sould or whatever it was heavily implied he must have one.

>>161851213
A lot of this cancer is gone because of the purge.

>>161850259
once a monkey...

but it was fun, all that rock throwing, so I forgive toei fo this shit.

>>161850978
So Goku's new form wont be enough?

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Legit question.

How can U7 be the second-weakest when it's already clearly established that they beat U6?
>Toei in charge of continuity

>>161851222
It'll probably be around his eye.

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>>161851340
goku will be using his trademark "I was holding back" routine against Jiren. He won't win.

>>161851343
Because Goku and Vegeta killed most of the strong people in the universe?
There's literally nothing outside of the Z fighters.
And remember, it's not about brute force, it's an average.

>>161851257
Either one of Gohan or Gotenks could easily defeat Buu without any of the forced tension they were having.
It would also have spared Vegeta from one more beating by Buu., but I guess it had happened so many times by then that he didn't mind being the punching bag instead of bringing the stronger fighters there to help them.

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>>161851343
>that pic
Ohhhh myyyyy

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>>161851316
Zamasu is just Toyo fanfic mixed with Toei fanfic

baka

>2017
>STILL watching DB
Get over it already. Don't you ever tired of the same fucking shit happening?

>>161851307
I'm more annoyed at the caught offguard meme

>>161849407
>look mom! I posted it again!

>>161850978
>All jokes aside, how do we feel about various scenes being reused to this extent?
Hated it in GT, hated it here.

>>161851213
>Hakai this
EVERY
TIME

>>161851343
Do you have actual autism? Why do you keep posting this question? How many times must you be banned for you to get the point?

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>>161851382
I would've paid to have seen Gotenks fight kid Buu.

>>161851388
Every single thing after Frieza was fucking fanfic-tier, it went full retard with GT and Super.
Super Saiyan was a mistake that wouldn't have happened if it Toriyama wasn't a lazy fuck who didn't want to keep coloring Goku's hair.

>>161851213
>Blue hair Shitfla
Outdated and gay, she can hope at best for SSJ3 now hahaha.

>>161850259
Can I get an album of these?

>>161851145
>baby
>original concept

Oh yeah, I loved Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans 2 electric boogaloo

>>161851382
Both Gotenks and Gohan would have fucked around for another century and allowed Kid Buu to blow the Kai planet up or straight-up absorb them again. They might be strong, but their heads are too far up their own asses to allow them to get shit done.

>>161850858
AHHH PICCOLO HELP ME

>>161851437
You must really be depressed if you're in a thread where you've considered the last twenty years of content to be mistakes. All day, every day.

>>161851343
I want to suck her nipples.

>>161851343
It's all about averages. All the power in U7 is focused on a handful of individuals, while in U6 it's more spread out.

Also Hit threw the last fight so it's not like U7 won because they were better.

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>Come up with a good ending to this tournament other than the "u7 wins and wishes everyone back"

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AHHH GOKU HELP ME

>yfw when Vegeta see's Gokus new form and has one of his legendary hissyfits
>gets knocked out during it
>forced to spend the rest of the arc watching Goky

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>>161851470
"Piccolo, please! Help!"

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Are you ready? To witness jobbing not seen for thousands of years?

Super gets worse and worse with every episode. I can't tell you exactly when it crossed the line but right now I would consider it worse than GT.
The only things it's good for a SoL comedy shit.

>>161851486
U6 wins and wishes everyone back because Champa owes Beerus

>>161851486
The survivors team up and face off against the Grand Priest to stop him from influencing Zeno, then they convince the Zenos to bring the universes back.

>>161851467
Vegeta couldn't do shit done either because he was too weak and lucky him he didn't get killed while carrot was buy wasting his entire chi away in his dumb attempt at powering up SS3.

I suppose Vegeta really didn't mind being thrashed around instead of bringing someone over to absorb the blows while Goku charged the genki dama.

>>161851471
You can be damned sure i'll be here to watch it die.

>>161851437
>Again with this meme
The powerup was not created because of ink, but the design was you fucking retard.

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>>161851521
"Piccolo, come on! I need a meat shield this instant!"

>>161851382
>Giving Kid Buu a chance to absorb Gohan or Gotenks

Goku's idea was retarded

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>>161851470
>>161851521

>Vegeta get mafuba by Frost
defend this toeidogs

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>>161849344
>Vegeta used to get his own shot in the OP/ED
>he now has to share the frame with krillin and tien
>not even in the center of the frame

>>161851486
Universe 11 wins and wishes everyone back

>>161851550
>UShitx winnning
Go jump off a cliff.

>>161851562
And that's another thing.
It was supposed to be a transformation, yet the only thing it did was dye his hair.
What the fuck was he thinking.

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>>161851470
*meanwhile, Piccolo is too busy giving Vegeta his daily dose to answer poor Gohan's pleas. Will boy be saved from the clutches of Cell? Or will he suffer a horrible, painful death by hugging?*

>>161851165
>Last time Gohan and Gotenks fought Buu they made him stronger

Goku shut the fuck up

>>161851547
Well twenty episodes of filler build up, only to lead to 15 episodes of filler fodder out-of-character fights will do that to you. 104 and 105 were good, but the rest has been outright shit.

I'd say TINGLE SAIYANS is when it became irredeemable though. Completely thew a middle finger to caring about the previous series' establishments and story, the struggles the characters went through, etc. just so we could have a female Goku.

>>161851560
I noticed you didn't deny that Gohan/Gotenks would have just played around and stalled for the rest of eternity while Buu eventually prepares to catch them off guard.

>>161851560
I don't get this. SSJ3 eats up a shitload of energy, so why wouldn't you drop out of it if your goal is to regain the energy you lost from using it?

The only thing Goku was doing was burning away his energy at a slightly slower rate while contributing nothing.

>>161851618
So piccolo is a faggot?

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>>161851684
He's a doctor, it's his job.

>>161851642
>female Goku
This counterparts bullcrap again. She is nothing like Goku, she is some lame gang leader who didn't even care and jump at the opportunity of a multiversal tournament, not to mention the annoying MUH NAKAMA.

>>161851542

Those three are pretty much the only good thing to come out of super

>>161851684
>Leave me with your little boy Goku we'll live in the wilds together. I'll "train" him.
He has always been a faggot.

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>the problem with super

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>>161851563
"Piccolo! Take this hit for me!"

>>161851486
U6 wins but Champa wishes U7 back because Beerus wasted his last wish to give him a new earth

>>161850480
See>>161849407

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>>161851730
>The solution

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>>161851486
TenCHADhan reveals that he split into five, and that the fifth clone has been hiding, waiting, and after everyone else has been knocked off he finally shows himself, securing universe 7's victory. To celebrate, Tien wishes that nothing in super is canon, thus setting the stage for GT, which is the superior series.

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Is this canon?

>>161851171
>At least Krillin got K.O.'d by Frost.
And that was because he was just gloating and dropping his guard. Frost might have not been able to knock him out easily when he's on guard with 18 there.

>>161850184
im not a vegetafag but to say he didn't earn his power ups is stupid

Also i just found out i got a warning for calling little girl moe shit cancer. What the actual fuck.

>>161851772
They literally haven't even met.

>>161850504
Whatever you say, ToeiNipster Wetback

>>161851730
does that mean people thought Super was even decent before these 2 appeared?

I knew this fanbase was full of retards but damn

>>161851382
>Gotenks fighitng Kid Buu
>literally a screeching contest between 2 dumb kids
>MY ENEGRY BALL IS BEIGGER THAN URS
>W-WELL IM GONNA ABSORB YOU

>>161850299
can I have this image without Piccolo?

>>161851821
This is why they aren't allowed to participate in the big leagues any more

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>>161851019

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>>161851810
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>>161851836
But Piccolo is what makes it good, anon.

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>>161850299
>Vegeta's bad end
Also whats up with the fandom always wanting to see Vegeta humiliated/raped/dominated like a bitch. It gets weird sometimes

>>161851731

The fuck is this shit? Gohan got the alzheimers and forgot that regeneration is the main gimmick of namekians?

>>161851815
It was never good, but this is when there was no hope left. Back tingles shows that the writers outright don't fuck care at all, and they aren't even pretending to at this point. Which is shocking since they at least tried during the Zamasu arc.

Fuck you guys. Vegeta is still the best db character.

>>161851730
I think the issue is that they rushed these two too quickly. The tingle shit was just to get them quickly to that level because they didn't have the time to develop their characters. If they'd actually introduced those two during the U6 arc, or had them develop to SSJ during the ToP instead of before it they would have been decent characters. I have no issue with where they are now, I have an issue with how they got there.

>>161851887
but he is in the way of 18's legs.

>>161850548
They would improve by alot.
It's been proven that most of anything Gohan related be it positive or negative, is usually spics acting like the monkeys they are.

>>161851786

Krillins pretty weak; he got trashed by cuckpup.

>>161851836

>Buu kills Chi-Chi and exterminates 99% percent of life on Earth
Gotenks fucks around and treats the situation like a game

>Buu has eaten Videl along with all of Gohan's friends, in addition to having exterminated Earth's population
Still not reason enough for Gohan to take Buu seriously and just kill him

>>161851401
>look mom! I'm on 4chan!

>>161851343
18 is garbage

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>>161851500
>Just kidding

>>161851815
As bad as Zamasu's arc was, at least there was a semblance of plot. ToP is just shock value after shock value.

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>>161851887
He deserves it.
He's a fucking retard who did nothing but fuck everything up again and again.
>get beaten by a kid
>get beaten by Frieza
>help Cell become Perfect
>help Babidi revive Buu
>has done nothing of value ever since
>his only purpose in life is bitching about how Goku is always better than him

>>161851976
Aaaand I responded to the wrong post. Fuck.

>>161851606

the japanese are so utterly autistic they would probably consider this a good plot twist.

>>161851813
It's okay, Sanjay. Just because you learned those new words today doesn't mean you have to exhaust your entire vocabulary.

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So is Tien the most JUST character of the arc?

>>161852052
At least he wasn't the one who lost his arm this time.

Kicking Tien out like that was bullshit of the highest order.

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>>161851171
>Kuririn saves 18
>Tenshinhan saves Goku Vegeta Cohan and Piccolo
That guy was wrecking all of U7. Tenshinhan is the MVP for that.

>>161852049
It's okay Alejandro, just because you're oppressed by the Cartel everyday doesn't mean you can act dumb on 4chan.

>>161852092

Just imagine you were living in an Universe where the Main Characters where the ones from other universes and you had to see them getting oneshotted by all this U7 people like if they were nothing.

>>161851903
>they at least tried during the Zamasu arc.

pffftthahahaha

>>161851673
While dead, SSJ3 can just build up energy for free. Goku didn't know it was going to go differently now that he was alive.

Problems with super:
>shitty animation
>predictable, boring plot
>pacing is sometimes too fast, other times too slow
>power scale fucked out of whack to the point where any character can beat anyone
>introducing new forms and characters which amount to nothing and only serve the purpose of selling more toys

Other than that the show is pretty good. If they could just fix these few flaws it has potential to be a 10/10 anime

SS3 is an asspull.

>>161851060
Wait
Yeah what the fuck
I just assumed it was specific to his friend's ki type

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>because im going super saiyan

>>161851161
he was holding back

>>161852236
No, it's perfectly logical and meant to showcase being ded really means nothing in DB, since Goku justs uses it as an opportunity to ditch family and train harder than he ever could before thanks to less physical and time restrictions.

>>161852015
>Good effects were used on my boy Dyspo jobbing
ITS NOT FAIR

>>161851060
Didn't he hit the pig while he was grabbing Pram?

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whats his power?

>>161852302
All of that was reused animation from episode 38.

>>161851060

Dr. Ruto was in front of him so he couldn't reflect it

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>>161850826
>>161850818
>>161850858

You know your shonen is done for once the girls are the only interesting thing left.

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>>161852052
Reminder that Roshi and Picollo are basically out already because muh stamina
By beating the sniper Ten literally saved Universe 7.

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>>161851343

Can't wait for that scrub Vejobber to get knocked out next episode so the saga can finally get serious.

>>161852333
His power is

Cabba and Cauli kiss when?

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>>161851899
Remember that one time where Picollo was broken into pieces as a stone and when he came back he just regenerated himself from pieces?
Or that one time Cell used Picollo's regen to go from a single cell back to his usual self into perfect form?

>>161852348
i didnt say animation i meant the effects used on shit like HHits timeskip and Dyspos speed up

this episode was boring

>>161851484
U6 is literally Hit and a bunch of scrubs

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Would a kind Anon mind laying out the flaws in this shitter's outfit?

>>161852423
All of the effects were reused from episode 38

>>161852228
This.
Remember Zamasu arc with Rose Black wiping the floor with Goku, Vegeta and Trunks several times each? Never mind that! Goku no less than two times overpowers him when he goes full power when for some mysteriour reason he just didn't do before (when he gets really angry at him murdering goten and chichi, and against merged zamasu which is "stated" to be way stronger, not that means anything in feats in this show)
Then the other half of the time Goku is having trouble with future fucking zamasu who couldnt keep up with SSJ Trunks.

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>>161852419
>Cabba and Cauli kiss when?

>>161852419
I think you mean kale

>>161852473
Cabba and Kale? That's an odd pairing.

>>161849344
>SSG is stronger than SSGSS is stronger than SSGSSGSS is stronger than SSGSSGSSGSS
were transformationfags specifically created so there were people more annoying than powerlevelfags?

>>161852333
Healing himself? I suppose since he looked dead after he got hit by that laser, then he appeared just fine before getting knocked by Vegeta.

>>161851171

Tien taking his training so seriously he rejects hot women just makes him more badass you retard.

I bet you wouldn't have the balls to reject launch and would become her white knight the moment she showed the slightest interest in you. Not tien, he's too respectable for that shit and knows he can get 10/10 pussy whenever he wants and rejects clingy girls

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>>161852381
YAMETEEEEE!

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>>161851213
Yoshifumi Fukushima is an Infamously Bad scriptwriter, working over at Toei.
He's so terrible in fact, that he can at least partially be seen as, "The cancer that is killing Super". JFYI

>>161852449
Literally who even wears that shit?
Cover it with a jacket and it solves half the current problems with it, including the fact that it will hide the stick limbs.

>>161852452
no they werent

>>161852291
Why do you have a photo of Hank Hill's ass

>>161852439
Tournament of Fodder in a nutshell.

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>>161852504
>"I wasted years of my life chasing after that jobber's dick..."

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How would you feel if you paid to see the Revival of F movie and this was the quality of the fight?

>>161852528
I like his gags. And his Trunks was the most human out of all episodes.

This show is fucking shit

>>161852608
Yet here you are.

>>161852528
>responsible for the tingling bullshit
fuck him

>>161852626
Once again I'm torn into pieces

>>161852596
I wouldn't be caught dead watching a DBZ movie.
Also, Ressurection F looked like shit compared to BoG, no thanks to Yamamuro's shitty directing too.

>>161852608
Still better than your favorite show :^)

>>161852628
You salty that Cabba's just a fantastic teacher?

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>>161852449
Would look perfect with a jacket, missed opportunity

>>161852628
It is brought up on episodes that aren't his.
There are "good" odds that it is Hackiyama's idea.

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>>161852667
He's teaching people how to use forms he can't?

>>161852596
Will this theme play? I would be fine with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-33SkD_tnw

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This is Bri, she was made for me!

Frost disqualified for killing Roshi next week

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>>161852504
Please anon, just let it go, no one from the original cast is ever going to be a "badass" again.
Everyone will somewhere at some time be an absolute jobbing retard. It's bound to happen and it's going to happen to everyone.
Really, the only ones right now who haven't been pathetic are 17 and Roshi. But just give them time and you'll see.

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>>161852686
Sorry, nothing can save that abomination. If this was the 90s and Toriyama gave more of a fuck, Caulifla would have looked 100% better than she does now. Ugly stick.

>>161852737
>Next week

>>161852710
Yep, and the cycle closes when he and Caulifa both trigger the legendary super tingle on Kalle.

When Vegeta gets blown away by Frost, does that even count as jobbing? Jobbing usually serves the purpose of building up someone as a strong threat, but getting betrayed/tricked into a ring out by Frost, that doesn't build him up at all. This isn't a job, this is way more pathetic than that- this is a Krillen level embarrassment.

>>161852738
>no episode about Yamcha just enjoying life

>>161852800
Stop right there. Vegeta will job to the teletubby!

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>>161852742
Jesus fuck, my dick is diamonds. Why is Toriyama's current art style so shit? Who told him it looked good?

>>161852912
Toriyama just doesn't care,

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>>161852738
you better shut the fuck up, No fap roshi is about to put jiren in his fucking place.

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>>161852710
Yep! That's how amazing a teacher he is. Cabba developed the Tingle Method©, which the U7 Saiyans simply never picked up on.
The poor uninformed hick Saiyans from U7 thought rage and loss was the driving force behind the SSJ transformation and didn't even have the presence of mind to notice the tingling sensation in their backs. Cabba, on the other hand, figured it out from the start, and is now able to share his discovery with the rest of U6 Saiyan-kind. (Not that they'll all be able to pull it off, but at least they'll know the CORRECT method.)

>>161849661

Yes merged zamasu is immortal but they had the whole "complex emotions made real" plot device to weaken him.

The anime writers said they wrote Goku black as the strongest non GoD, non fusion character and merged zamasu as the most over powered villain because of Black's power up gimmick and Zamasu's immortality.

But the animators clearly had no idea what they were finishing the arc up. Their statements regarding merged zamasu, merged zamasu saying he's the most powerful god and gowasu saying that his power had expanded to no end and we get Goku at just SSB form being able to beat him in a beam struggle and then SSBKK fodderizing him when it comes to combat. The anime writers write Goku's SSB/KK form to be as strong as it needs to be for plot convenience. And then it made Vegito look bad because Goku went blow for blow before Zamasu started getting torn apart and then Vegito had trouble fighting him after he started being torn apart. Then this begs the question, was Zamasu at his strongest before he started getting torn apart or after? Because if he was afterwards, then that would mean trunks would be stronger than Vegito for being able to trade blows with merged zamasu. And if he was before, how was Goku by himself able to fight against merged zamasu when it took the combined effort of both Trunks and Vegeta for their beam struggle?

With what we were shown in the Black arc we're still true, there's no way that Jiren, Toppo or Hit would even be threat to SSB. They basically just nerfed it to give Goku a shiny new form. There's no way any of them should be stronger than either Black or Merged Zamasu.

I'm still mad because this arc had the potential to be one of the best DB arcs but of course they had to fuck it up.

>>161852738
Ten did more than Cuckhan and Cuckalo
They would both be out. Goku and Vegeta too. They were all sitting ducks but Ten soloed that guy.
Reminder he saved Roshi earlier too and beat Cell.
People still in because of Ten
Goku
Vegeta
Piccolo
Gohan
Roshi

Master Roshi
>Eliminated two threats
>Opponent pissed herself in fear and jumped off
>Uses tactics
>Immortal
>Was a Chad back in the day
>Trained the most powerful humans ever seen before, PLUS a god
>3 solo knockouts, all of them badass
KEKlifla
>Eliminated a fat pink bitch already weaked by base Freeza; had to go Super Saiyan
>Carried to the finish line against the Fodder Troopers
>Unintimidating, more of a joke really
>Power is everything to her, and she lacks it
>Not immortal
>Doomed to be ugly forever (if she survives this arc)
>Rushes in like a true retard
>Trained no one, just a filthy peasant crimelord
>1 solo knockout, still exhausted

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>>161852950
>tfw your years of training means nothing compared to this one chick who master shit the second she picks it up

>>161853002
Stop it anon, I also like tenshinhan, but you're just embarrassing us both.

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At the very least, Tenshinhan has now got himself a pretty cute 8/10 looking waifu.
And, let's not forget that Yurin knows Zombie magic, if they do some work together, we'll possibly soon see a 100x stronger Tenshinhan.

>>161852984
Black's zenkai was enormous. Did he even need healing? The manga had Zamasu heal him after each beating but the anime didn't. Surely the injuries sustained should be meaningful if they caused such large zenkai boosts and still present.

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Is Frost /ourguy/?
>is decently strong but doesn't fully depend on strength
>uses underhanded strategies to his advantage to win
>literally the only fighter in the tournament to understand that having allies on other teams is important
>doesn't get into fights he knows he can't win

>>161853093
>implying he won't ignore her like Lunch

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where does Tenshinhan fit in this chart?

>>161852944
Is there any way to make Toriyama care again?

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Why is Note so pure?

>>161853135
He's a weaker, but more mature and strategic Frieza. I approve.

>>161853135
Retarded Frostfag

The tournament of power is absolute fucking shit. Introducing new gimmick characters with gimmick powers is not interesting. At all. This is supposed to be a martial arts anime with power levels, that's what fucking Dragonball is. This is not that.

>>161853135
It belongs in the trash can with all the other DB Online rejects.

>>161852507
it was the words 16 said not the action of killing 16 that triggered him, he barely knew 16

>>161853135
Gonna have to wait and See >>161849407

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>>161853181
Do you rike it? (laughs)

>>161853039
>>161852950

how can you be mad about SSJ being tingles when SSG was just a ritual?

Had the fucking nameks just told them about it sooner they would have gone god in the android arc and wiped out buu and cell easily.

why even be mad about a form that was outclassed years ago when the current main god forms are huge ass pulls

Reminder that DBH > DBS

>>161850478
>>161850692
Aren't those just frieza race fusion'd with human/saiyan?

>>161853076
We all have to autism out on damage control when our characters lose or what's the point of these threads

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>>161853181
Gimmick enemies do the most memorable shit. It would worse if everybody ran purely on power level.

>>161850148
Reminder that Mai is a pedophile because she still has the mind of an adult

>>161853291
I made the "TingleMethod©" post. I'm not mad. I fully support it. Just goes to show that U6 Saiyans are more advanced.

>>161853113
Black says he grew stronger from the beating angry Goku gave him, ad yet soon after he's nearly matched by SS rage trunks and outmatched by Vegeta (and then while fused with Zamasu he jobs to full power before kaioken Goku).
It nearly feels like that was a throw away line.

>>161853135
Hes a cheater and cheaters never prosper

>>161853002
True facts. Only Frieza and the Cyborgs would be left.

The Universe Survival Saga has been going on for a while now and I can't bring myself to like it, apart from the occasional good idea and well-drawn bit of animation in the usual bunch of questionable writing and mediocre animation quality. I don't want this post to be a rant, I’d rather have an actual discussion on what this arc could have been and could still be, so I apologize if I end up sounding like a grumpy old man with too much free time on his hands. Ok then, enough chitchat, here's my reasons.
Let's get the easy one out of the way first. While the cheap-looking cgi stage is still cool and all, i think it creates a ton of problems. There's a reason why authors decide to use forests, large islands or similar locatons when they plan to put a huge amount of characters against each other in a Battle Royale: it's the easiest freaking way to avoid drawing the whole horde of characters you put in there without having to explain where the hell they are.
It's a versatile way to separate characters into groups and make them do different things or fight with each other without much hassle. Hunter x Hunter and Naruto's Exam Arcs are the first example that comes in my mind. If you put eighty fighters on a flat surface in the middle of the void that is not even that large to begin with, it would be hard for you to justify the emptiness of your background.
So, unless you want to waste your entire budget on background fighting, you'll be forced like Toei to use cheap tricks like random fake looking explosions, or to have a character wreck the stage for no apparent reason other than to add some rocks and walls to the scenery and make things easier for you. Toei could have easily avoided that by creating a larger stage with walls and obstacles to begin with, maybe a maze. Heck, even a fake alien island could have worked.

>>161852333
Let me tell you-

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Toriyama's Heroes designs are better

>>161853266

no, it was because 16 was pure android and had no soul so couldn't be wished back or go to heaven. His death was the only death that actually mattered in the history of dragonball which triggered gohan.

>>161853301
I accept your concession, faggot

Getting the whole Universe 9 eliminated by Goku and Vegeta was a mistake in this sense. What purpose did it serve? Did they need to tell us that our protagonists are strong yet again? We already knew Universe 9 was weak and no one seemed to have projects for them anyway. Why not use them to actually hype up some guys you want the viewers to care a bit more about? You can use at least 7 of them this way, then have the Trio De Danger still angrily trying to take down Goku and Vegeta in desperation. You have the same ending, but you had a chance to highlight some future more capable opponents like Obuni, the Magical Girls and even the Snipers of the last episode. You can use that one scene of fighting to extablish their character and plan at least on a basic level.
Even better, you can justify their absence through writing. You can have the Magical Girls take out some guys just to decide to settle down as they see Goku and Vegeta’s strength, to avoid wasting stamina against weak foes (like U11 is doing). You can have Obuni bored looking for a worthy opponent and there, you have a justification for him doing absolutely nothing for half the tournament before popping up against Gohan. You can have a chump getting hit by the sniper and panicking because of it, without necessarily showing us something more than his silhouette. The fighting stage feels more alive if you allow the other characters to do things, have plans and strategies that don’t involve our protagonists directly.
Since we are on the subject, what were Prum and Hermila doing until now? How did two long-range frail fighters survive this long without fighting? They appear just to shoot Gohan and Piccolo and they might as well have popped in existence right now, for what we know.

>>161850388
Technically that's a picture of all three

>>161852023
It's hilarious really. Vegeta is just "shitty Goku"
He doesn't have any of Goku's creative techniques or Goku's ability to improvise. The only time he EVER bothered to bust out some tight shit was when he was Majin fighting Goku. Now that was a Vegeta who could be on Goku's level, but he literally devolved to just PUNCH AND SHOOT monkey.

It's the reason why Goku's ditched his ass, like how Crab would ditch Araragi if he didn't constantly improve himself. Like why stick with a garbage rival who doesn't try and improve for you when you could have a guy who literally makes you feel like time has stopped and takes your breathe away, an EX whose not only obsessed with you but has improved and is always figuring out new tricks and surprises, or the mysterious new guy who won't even give you the time of day but has such a presence you just can't help but want his attention.

Vegeta is that 6/10 chick in high school you fucked until you were ready to upgrade. Just like Tien was the fat chick and Piccolo was the skinny chick with the ugly acne. Goku's too good for him. He should stick to people more in his league, like Android 19, Qui, Zarbon, or PuiPui.

>>161852333
Oh, him? He has the ability to

>>161853354
Mai has the memories of her past, but it's impossible to keep her adult mind if the wish made her young.

>>161850426
>slut
Take that back

>>161852742
Who's that man?

>>161853504
What is this Deviantart tripe

>>161853291
All of that is equally Super shit that people can be mad at. All of what you just wrote does nothing but discredit things that happened throughout the original manga.

>>161853140
Tien is a special case like piccolo. chiaotzu is his kryptonite and has kept him weak all along.

>>161853470
Cell doesnt have any Daimo DNA does he?

>>161853181
>powerlevelfags assblasted

deliciouse

>>161852333
I'm about to show y-

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Did any side bring genetically engineered bio weapons?

>you're wasting your time watching shit anime instead of doing something productive

>>161853540
It's superior designs than much of super.

>>161850800
>she'll never bully you
It's not fair.

>>161853608
>you're wasting your time posting on 4chan instead of doing something productive

>>161853602
Tenshinhan beat another Universes Cell

Is Piccolo Jr. an asspull?
>King Piccolo has a hole in his gut
>Spits out an egg

>>161853181
At least gimmicks are memorable and consistent.

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>>161853608
>being productive in the year 2017 when technology and consumerism rain supreme

>>161853654
As bad as Super designs are, none of them resorted to random spikes.

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>>161853602
Universe 3
Maji Kayo is one
blue maked man from U3 is one
Papparoni is one

>>161851486
U7 wins and the erasure of all the other universes is permanent and the losing universes aren't allowed to be brought back and merge with U7 either.

>>161853322

gimmick characters are good when they're defeated by the hero finding the one fatal flaw in their gimmick that allows them to win and in the process makes you think.

In DB super we literally just get
>I reflect ki blasts
>gets beat by a ki blast anyway

or
>I'm a sniper who hides in the shadows and can't be found
>oh no someone found me

it makes it boring

It would have been more interesting if gohan had used his mathematical skills to pinpoint the exact angle the sniper was shooting from, and then told piccolo to shoot a special beam canon from the opposite angle reflecting off the reflector guy directly into the sniper blasting him off stage or something. Or maybe the sniper could have predicted this had a counter measure in place and told the reflector guy to move at the last moment, and we could have had a battle of the minds between gohan and sniper-guy.

But who am I kidding, that's much too cerebral for DB super's standard

>>161852333

looking smug

>>161853354
>you're wasting your time bullying a qt who loves you instead of doing something productive