>Have fate/zero on my backlog for years >Always get close

she got over it why don't you

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>>161834776
What's the matter? She's only playing with worms.
Also read the VN before watching Zero

>>161834856
>Also read the VN before watching Zero
There's a thread up right now telling people exactly why not to do this.

as someone who watched fz and sn last week it seemed very weird that any of the matou shit happened at all with none of it being relevant in sn

>>161835082
Technically Zero is in a slightly different universe or something

>>161835082
Read Heaven's Feel.

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>>161835082
>at all with none of it being relevant in sn
Fucko, FSN is a story in three parts, each one just as important as the others.

Fate route is the introduction
UBW is the shift
HF is the climax

There's a reason all the Matou shit comes up so much in Zero, because its a huge focus in the final route of the game. People have waited ten years, but the final route is finally going to get animated this year. FSN isn't a single route, a single route does not tell the story. You can't experience FSN without all three. TM people can't stop adapting only the first route for some reason, but someone finally paid them off enough to get the others animated.

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Fucking underplayed but amazing moment in HF. Shirou throughout the entire game had dreams about the fire, or kept seeing the fire CG in his mind whenever he's panicking. In HF something odd happens, the usual dream sequence keeps going further than he's used to, and he starts to remember a bit more about the fire.

Fire was at night he starts to wonder, why was the sun out?

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>>161835417
His vision starts to twist, the normal CG we saw all that time starts to shift, and he starts to remember some shit he blocked out all that time.

>ctrl+f DUDE
>0 of 0
Garbage Zero thread

>>161835368

ill never be autist enough to do vns

what episode does ubw fork at? the first 3 eps made me too unmotivated to continue after just watching sn

>>161835488
Have you tried asking reddit? They might be more up your alley.

>>161835462
>DUDEposting when nobody is talking about Iskandar
Why bother

dumb secondaries

>>161835534
You mean normalfags as well. At least they're sticky with this trash called Zero.

>>161835590
I'm totally okay with being a normalfag if it means not obsessing over thousands of hours of VNs, anime, and mobile games

>>161834776
>Yo what the fuck, this ISN'T cool

It'll get WAY more fucked up once you read Heaven's Feel.

It turn out those worms that raped her are literally her grandfather
And sometime between Zero and F/SN her brother starts raping her too
And thanks to the treatment she recieved she ends up loving the dick
And then she becomes a host for all the evils in the world and turns into a rapist herself
And the one that she rapes is her own biological sister

>>161835701
That is exactly what it means.

It means you are a normal person with normal tastes who shouldn't bother with niche things like what would be discussed on the anime board of 4chan.

>>161835082
this is the average intelligence of zerofag secondaries everyone.

>>161835845

i feel bad for how shitty your life must be lol

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>>161835807
>And thanks to the treatment she recieved she ends up loving the dick
Not really, she's only been steadfast about liking one guy all her life. When asked about sex she still says its mostly torture for her, and she doesn't really like it. Although people certainly meme and shitpost otherwise, but she's only ever cared about Shirou and everything else was just rape.
>And then she becomes a host for all the evils in the world and turns into a rapist herself
>And the one that she rapes is her own biological sister
That was a bad end, everyone does fucked up shit in bad ends including Shirou. Saber once cut Shirou's head off, Shirou ends up killing all his friends and family, and Ilya kills everyone in various bad ends. Yet with your logic these all happened within the normal ending of the game. That's why they're bad ends. No she doesn't do that in any normal ending.

Entire point of bad end is "Shit gets fucked up"

>>161835894
Best Girl Rin never kills Shirou in any bad ends, FYI

>>161835894
Autism: the post.

>>161835929
Even better, she gets decapitated by based Kuzuki

>>161835894
Sakura's body can't help but get aroused at the sight of cock, don't confuse her state of mind with the treatment given to her body.

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>>161835701
Then what are you doing on this board?
If you're not dedicated to your hobby then you're just a poser.

>>161835929
>Best Girl Rin never kills Shirou in any bad ends, FYI
In a completely out of character and cuntish move she kills his defenseless ass during the school fight if he fucks up a certain choice.

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At which point will the first movie stop? Saber's death or Shirou hugging Sakura in the rain?

>>161836015
Spoiler that shit, bitch.
It's also inaccurate, Saber doesn't die at that point

>>161835034
It's actually full of people telling you to read it.

>>161835968
I just don't find the series THAT engaging

>>161836015
>fifteen years later
>People still think Saber died in the Hassan fight

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>>161836172
You know what I meant.

>>161836172
When a character's personality and physique is changed so drastically, can you truly say it's the same character and not a new one?
The Saber we know and love died in that scene. Saber Alter is basically a different servant.

>>161835879
I feel bad for how low your IQ is

>>161834776
Can anybody tell me about sakura's endings?
Is there any happy ending with her stayed with shirou and all?

>>161835929
She mercy kills him in one ending.

>>161837647
>Normal End
Shirou dies after destroying Angra Mainyu, Sakura spends the rest of her life waiting for him to return. He doesn't.
>True End
Shirou is stopped by Illya before he can sacrifice himself, Illya sacrifices herself instead and saves him. They put Shirou's soul into a new puppet body (his old body is now swords), he and Sakura (and Rider) live happily ever after.

>>161837871
also for the record puppet body was made my a mage so good at what she does that she can make puppets of hersself completely indistinguishable from the real thing, to the point that when one of them dies the other one didn't even care if they were the puppet or the original. so shirou 2.0 still has a full set of bits

>>161837871
Thank you.

>>161837949
Don't forget that she's a dirty red

>>161837979
Get in the fucking box Cornelius.

>>161835488
>what episode does ubw fork at?

Ep. 4

>>161835417
How does this compare with his other dreams about the fire?

>>161835943
What, isnt Kuzuki a good guy who only kills servants instead of the student masters? Like reverse kiritsugu

>>161838266
he's literally a trained assassin from birth
he doesn't care about killing people, or about anything else for that matter

>>161835929
She breaks his mind in HF by killing Sakura in front of him while he's immobilized if you make a contract with her.

>>161835966

She doesn't really. Girl wakes Shirou up all the time, and she wakes him up normally, she could ravish him and the boy would be a-ok with it. She cum rainbows thinking of Shirou, and as you see, 90% of the time is very controlled around him.

Remember, to Shirou, Sakura liking him was not in his thought process, call it density, but she acts sisterly around him, despite her senpai adoration. If she was so into dick, you'd have seen that in the other routes, or she would have gotten a rep around school, since she is known to be as attractive by Shirou's note as Rin is, with a banging body for a 1st year (remember, she is the youngest of the cast), and Ayako's younger brother Minori ends up thirsty as hell for her but her eyes are only for Shirou.

She likes sex with the guy she likes, that's about it. Sure, she gets horny when her magical energy is past a certain threshold, but people forget that like Rin, she has tons, or the worms would have consumed her ages ago. Shinji just rapes her as vengeance and she feels bad for the guy, it's not like it's actually helpful for her, that's a meme there, since her magical energy pool is so strong, Shinji would need to sacrifice his blood, flesh, and soul to even dent the amount of magical energy she'd need if she was near death. Like, he'd never be able to cum enough, even if he was ero-doujin tier. The entire school of normie boys banging her wouldn't be enough. Hell, Shirou barely makes the cut and he can at least fund an Excaliblast from his sword batter.

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>>161834776
Japs find this shit erotic for some reason
>>161835082
>watched stay/night....none of it being relevant in sn
Fate/Stay Night is split into 3 alternate timelines. The first is Fate, where Altria is the heroine and she fights gilgamesh to destroy the grail. The second is Unlimited Blade Works, where instead of wounding Archer at the beginning, Shirou has Altria withdraw - this has a butterfly effect where Shirou and Archer fight, and then Shirou fights gilgamesh. In UBW, Tohsaka Rin is the heroine and Shirou reaffirms his ideals.
The third route is called Heaven's Feel. In this timeline, Sakura is the heroine. I can't really remember what happens in this one since I read it like 9 years ago, but it basically deals entirely with the Matou side of things and Kotomine as the final boss. Worms included.

I don't mind you being a filthy secondary but please don't pull shit out of your ass

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>>161838624

It's actually worse than that. But to he fair, it's a thing that Rin does, but it's not that she means to break him. She thinks that this is what's best, so she forgets things.

To put context on the Geas end, which is what the poster I quoted is talking about, Rin asks you a set of questions, and she doesn't tell Shirou unless he gets it right, but it's a test. It's one of Rin's bad flaws, to test people without telling them they are being tested, she does this again in HF. But anyway.

The important question is the last one, which is "will you give me total your obedience?". She wants him to answer "No" because she wants a partnership, for him to be her brakes because as I said, she fucks things up because she is always confident in her methods and doesn't second guess them and that causes her issues. Shirou answering yes, illicits her to be disappointed, but she is super vague about why. She makes a Geas with him, but doesn't tell him all the ramifications.

So cue the day Shirou confronts Rin about what to do about Sakura on day 9. Where Shirou would protest, fight with Rin, Sakura would run and he would hug her in the rain, is replaced with Rin activating the Geas and telling him that he can do nothing for Sakura and it breaks him. The worse thing is that she thinks this is right, but forces the two of them to swallow all that pain as Sakura has to end her life in absolute shit which could have been avoided. So it's shitty all around and Rin will only see that later as Kotomine edges himself for when he tells her the truth later on.

Pretty shitty, more than the Sakura haters let on.

>>161836288

Not wrong, but not right either. The blackening is pretty much a curse akin to Tommy when he was first introduced as the Green Ranger(this is how it's described in the interviews when Nasu talks about it, where your allies are turned by the forces of darkness, it's made to hurt more because they are the real deal, but under a spell).

Sakura and Saber are basically Tommy under Rita's spell, they are, yet they aren't themselves.

Note how she speaks to Shirou when he tells her he has to save Sakura, and she tells him that Sakura will obtain the Holy Grail, even if the result is her death. People miss the subtlety of what goes on in the route. Alter IS Saber. Dark Sakura IS Sakura, yet at the same time, they aren't.

>>161835807
She takes a worm out of her pussy

>>161835807
>And sometime between Zero and F/SN her brother starts raping her too
This is why I hate how Rin rescues him in UBW.

The manga page is even better.

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>>161835807
See, this is why I can't take Sakura seriously as a character. Beauty and the Beast Corps had less ridiculously grimdark backstories.

>>161840002
Then read Realta Nua, where she's a virgin who drinks blood instead.

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>>161839953
>Rin encourages Shirou to make Saber kill civilians for mana
>Jumps at the opportunity to kill Sakura over the possibility that she'll do the same

>>161838624
Who wouldn't want a mind-broken obediant boy toy?

>>161839984
Jesus, that is explicit as all fuck. If she weren't a child I'd definitely fap to it

>>161837482

yikes.. someone's attached to that online iq test they took when they were 12

im sure you are indeed Very Smart and not a gremlin that hasnt showered in a week :----)

>>161837871
I always felt like the puppet thing is a deus ex machina

>>161840080
She just hates Sakura

>>161840281
It isn't, the entire route is all about the idea of soul transfer.

>>161840365
Truly a relatable character

>>161840002

How? We have a priest keeping zombie orphans alive just to have his servant drain their souls for energy in the Fate route. Said priest being this guy who is edgy because it makes him feel good, which tickles the blood of the trolls of the fanbase.

And Sakura's story shows how far magi are willing to go for their objectives, something we already knew.

People call her backstory too much when we have other stories about a guy adopting twin maids so he can have his family ravish them to calm their demon blood, or the myriad of bleak shit you get in Type-Moon anyway.

Sakura's backstory is fine when compared to that.

>>161840281
The whole route revolves around the Third Magic, it's not an asspull at all. Seeing it actually get used in the end is very climactic.

>>161840514
I can kinda see how shirou feels to be honest.

>>161835534
The show isn't worth anything else really.

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>>161834776
>http://i.imgur.com/LVhgnUf.jpg
>http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I_FK4Ez73Sw/T47jriwgGdI/AAAAAAAAEXo/6fxDTdegdC0/s1600/ryuunosuke-gore.jpg
Ayyyy lmao

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>people tell me to read the VN/watch UBW before watching Zero
>don't
>mfw the VN/UBW sucks ass so it's good I didn't spoil Zero for myself with it

>>161843921
Nasu says it's okay to watch Zero before F/SN only the autists care about this.

>>161843921
>Spoiling Zero
It doesn't works like that

>>161834776
Did Nasu ever imagine something this fucked up when he first wrote HF? Or am I selectively forgetting something?

>>161836004
She doesn't. That's the only bad end where Shirou is explicitly confirmed to survive and is completely removed from the Grail War. She wiped his memory and took his Command Seals, the next day he met up with Issei, he no longer has memories of who Rin is, and his hand started hurting.

>>161845947
Nasu wrote Tsukihime and is good friend with Uro. You tell me.

>>161834849
Until you tell her you're going to rat it to Shirou.
Then she'll break your head.

>>161835807
>And thanks to the treatment she recieved she ends up loving the dick
No ? Her abnormal arousal come from Zouken manipulating her body to make her fuck Shirou.

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Looking back, was the FSN [UBW] TV series that bad?

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Canon wife, she deserves it

>>161845947
>>161846071
『Kusarihime ~Euthanasia~』 is a visual novel released by Lair-soft in 2002. The game was praised for its unique settings and the story. Soon after its release, 『Kusarihime』's scenario writer Hoshizora Meteo (who later joined TYPE-MOON to work on 『Girls' Work』) gathered several people from around the industry, including scenario writers Nasu Kinoko, Tanaka Romeo, and Urobuchi Gen, to talk about the game, which later resulted in a 『Kusarihime』 fanbook.

Inspired by their discussion of 『Kusarihime』, Romeo went on to create 『CROSS†CHANNEL』, Urobuchi Gen made 『Saya no Uta』, and Nasu came up with Heaven's Feel route for 『Fate/stay night』. Not only is 『Kusarihime』 is considered a classic, but it is also considered a cradle of other classics. The dialog

Below is the legendary talk that appeared in the 『Kusarihime』 fanbook.

http://tsukikan.com/misc/star-scenario-writer-interview.html

>>161835807
>It turn out those worms that raped her are literally her grandfather
I thought only the one wrapped around her heart was literally her grandfather and the rest of them were merely demonic rape worms with an intrinsic knowledge of his magecraft carved into them.

>>161846407
Every worm is a part of Zouken's body, he can move his soul among each of them.

>>161846244
Yes, without any doubt. Once VNs leave their containment medium, it just becomes horribly clear how utterly stupid most of their plotlines are. It's because the plot has to be condensed for anime or other media and thus seems clearer, while VNs in-medium, try to obfuscate their shitty writing by compensating with pretty graphics, silly music and good voice acting as also, from time to time, with h-scenes.

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Why did Kirei BTFO Sakura in the forest?

>>161846244
Their mistake was not readapting Fate first.

>>161846844
Director was an UBWfag who liked Illya.

>>161846803
Because she thought she had literally become the shadow and was someone completely different. Kotomine clarified the difference between the shadow and Dark Sakura to her, saying Dark Sakura is still herself deep on the inside.

>>161846908
>UBWfag
>liked Illya
???

>>161847039
Almost directed HF until Sudou hijacked it.

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>>161843921
>VN/UBW

>>161843921
>Fate/stay night
Route 1: Fate
Route 2: UBW
Route 3: Heaven's Feel
>Fate/Zero
Book 1: The Untold Story of the Fourth Holy Grail War / 第四次聖杯戦争秘話
Book 2: Mad Feast of Kings / 王たちの狂宴
Book 3: Scattered Ones / 散りゆく者たち
Book 4: Flames of Purgatory / 煉獄の炎

>>161843158
Not sure if I wanna click this

>>161839953
>>161840080

Did she forget that Sakura is her sister?

>>161846244
It was okay. I think it suffered because Miura a shit.

>>161843158
What is he doing in the second picture?