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>teehee I can delete the plot of whatever I'm fighting

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>teehee I can delete the plot of whatever I'm fighting
Who the FUCK can stop this absolute madwoman?
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>Drills you from behind
Heh, nothing personel
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>>161805330
>FRESHes you from behind
Heh, nothing personnell
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>>161805330
Cant delete the plot if there isn't one to begin with. Miya-chans got this one in the bag.
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>>161805666
>Chou Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
>drilling anything from any direction that is not front
Nice try, Satan
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>>161805330
Send a meme to stop a meme
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>>161806177
To be fair, powerman is pretty much OPM.
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obviously that beta guy that hasn't done anything the whole series is going to save the day because the guy isn't from a story that she can delete.
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>>161806271
If that were true no one would argue about OPM power level.
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>>161805330
I
LOVE
ALTAIR
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>>161806997
People do that because they're retards and dont understand that its a parody manga that is not to be taken seriously.
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>>161805330
If this were 2012. Undertaker on Wrestemania.

It hurts to this day.
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>>161806177
Okay, Power-Man can pin the Undertaker, but can he pin Brock Lesnar?
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>>161807782
I get that the Streak had to end (No, I don't) but why give it to someone that's basically going to hop back out anyway?
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>>161808148
Honestly the most confusing thing is why they brought him back for more after ending it.
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>>161806177
You can always out-meme a meme.
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>>161805330
can't wait until worthless-self-insert-kun draws up the real final villain
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>>161808716
Think again Altair! I have a new OC to beat yours
Character Name:<Insert My Name Here>
Abilities:
This character is Altair's husbando
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>>161809057
We can only defeat her with our boundless love.
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Reminder that Altair runs on memetics, so if we change the google search algorithm of "Altair" to show up as "slut" then well all win
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>>161805330
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Is this anime actually good?
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>>161810029
No but I love to hate it
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>>161810029
I unironically love it. It's very polarizing though
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>>161810029
No but it's got sharkteeth
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>>161808716
You can't out-power Power Man. Attempts such as that only get a person even more destroyed.
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>>161812412
Yeah but have you heard about the powerman who stumbled across a creeper? HE WAS DESTROYED.
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>>161810106
so opening up her coat, removes the plot?
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Powerman doesn't even have a plot
He has no story, just power
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>>161806877
He will start drawing again, creating a manga telling the story of the girl who created Altair. But the version where he did not ghost her and drove her to suicide. So he revives her as his creation. And then she gives Altair a stern talking to.
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>>161810029
The problem is that it could've been good. It feels like TROYCA and Hiroe are fucking up on purpose.
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>>161812740
Altair is the same, she's basically powerman gone viral.
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>>161805666
Satan trips confirm
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>>161812589
18+
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>>161813229
>tfw you were an underagefag when you were into early minecraft
Why did I waste my life on it.
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Why are all of Altair's powers so fucking meta? She wasn't designed to be a meta character so where the fuck are these creators that keep making up super weird meta powers like "delete the plot line of another character" instead of standard pew pew lasers anime powers?
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>>161813283
Don't tell me, I played that shit since only Classic existed
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>>161813547
She probably was already a world hopper in fanfiction, fucking up other characters and worlds since she didn't have one of her own.
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>>161813547
She was born to fuck with powerlevel threads.
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>>161805330
Hajun.
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>>161813547
Sefauna probably gave her Holopsicon in her original character description and vaguely specified that it had reality bending powers and people just fucking ran with it.
Maybe someone started making up those powers specifically in some shitty crossover fanfic.
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>>161805330
I want Altair to win
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>>161805330
>Who the FUCK can stop this absolute madwoman?
Soda Aka God of Ink.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. This anime will reach great tier only if Altair wins.
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>>161813901
I think the writers forgot for Altair and Soda to actually talk about things. Hopefully they make up for it with a vanilla threesome in the next two episodes.
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>>161805330
Is this show just bootleg Fate/Stay Night
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Re:creators more like discount Medaka Box
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>>161805330
She's about to fight her own creator, who doesn't have a plot to erase or story-related powerups that can be nullified. Setsuna will stop Altair.
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>>161814120
Nope.
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>>161806177
Did somebody called me?
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>>161814023
The writers forgot about Soda entirely, in fact.
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>>161814019
so you like ideon-like endings?
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>>161814019
Even the writers know that the audience recognizes Altair as the MC.
But it's Aoki Ei, so he will probably make Eggs, I mean, Soda win it through the power of bad writing.
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>>161810029
No, even though this episode was decent it's too little too late. They can't undo the fact that last 15 or something episodes were boring shit.
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>fucking Sirius when Vega or even fucking Deneb make more sense
do nips even nip anymore?
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How is soda gonna fuck this up? I mean this is the guy who couldn't be bothered to stop her suicide. Also why did the other writers laugh at his pitch for setsuna? It's pretty grim and fucked up and the wants to bring a dead person back that will enrage altair
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>>161814846
>How is soda gonna fuck this up
power of contrived plot twists
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>>161810029
Not really, it was decent at the beginning when they were building up everything then the event thing got announced and it was all buildup/filler.
Now its the "tournament" arc/ final fight and its somewhat better but theres so many tweests and asspulls that I just cant stop laughing at the stupidity.
If you havent watched it I wouldnt reccomend it, Sharkteeth is great tho.
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>>161814846
he already did. he got setsuna's glasses wrong.
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>>161814120
>Is this show just bootleg Fate/Stay Night
You wish, then it would be at least fun
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But new Altair is so cute in the red undershirt.
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>>161810029

Its above average. The stuff like slutty meteora and the new girl made it. But I wouldn't say it's top tier good
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>>161810029
They spent the first 16 episodes doing literally nothing so now when the time comes and they all start dying nobody really gives a shit.
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Why even spend entire episodes building up the "you need audience acceptance" if you're just going to say "lol you don't actually need it"?
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>>161815137
Because the acceptance was for Altair, not Meteora and the others. She'll used it to rewrite the story of the world and make so Setsuna never killed herself.
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>>161807104
>OPM is a parody manga
It literally isn't. It's a shonen comedy that often parodies other shonen, but it has internally consistent and well-developed rules which Saitama conforms to.
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>>161813547
Yeah, what's the real basis for this? How is that original power even tied to the fanfic shit at this point? Why is one person's music video even getting that much fanfiction and stuff? At what point does she leave behind all the basic trappings and balances of her source material?

Furthermore, what exactly are the videos? Is someone giving her these powers outright, or is this stuff a big twisting of "her chunni fortress in this one short has a lot of security cameras"? There's absolutely no thought or logic given to this character. There's no attempt to determine what her powers are or the extent to which she can make them. Even the single video of copy grunts was not that much of a stretch. What's worse, the series is terrible at connecting "kind of liked" Internet Altair with the plot's Altair. It's a very flimsy, forgettable excuse to give her dumb "get out of jail for free" cards that would have lent itself better to a younger child playing pretend on a playground.
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Someone remember in which episode we saw the original drawing of altair?
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>>161815925
The videos are just her doing cartoon stuff, she just translates that cartoon logic in chuuni terms. Like if in one video they kill her and she appears right away unhurt she got the power of rewriting herself in the world.
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>btw we had an altair clone
>btw I can actually become my clone
>btw we had souta's plan
>btw he doesn't need acceptance

BRAVO
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>"At what point did you begin believing that I was Soda?"
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>>161816031
Episode 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SWVfbYuaac
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>>161816031
13? She was in ED1.5
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Will this anime get even more meta and break the fourth wall?
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>>161805330
She just needs a good dicking, like her creator.
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They should've summoned Yukari
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>>161816146
Meteora already did.
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>>161816217
Yeah but that was the recape episode.
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I just want more sluteora
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>>161805749

Only characters him and Bobobo stand a remote chance against her, since they're not bound by any rules and have no limits on what they can do.
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>>161816197
Why would anybody summon a granny with back pains?
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>>161806177

Altair is Powerman. That's the entire point of her character.
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>>161816102
>>161816099

No, I searched, but found nothing.
I remember they said, the original didn't look like altair.
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>>161816197
You mean Reimu
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>>161816590
You mean nigger Cirno.
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>>161816549
Episode 8 it is.
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>>161816672
Good job

It was not the original altair.
Only the template
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>>161816601
>tanned Cirno
ftfy
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>>161816059
That's not all of the videos, and it's lowkey in cases like that. Furthermore, why didn't the series focus on researching those videos and creating counters to her abilities? Instead it's basically a terrible divide between the source of the powers and the character.
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>>161816531
In the show context Yukari would basically be a perfected Altair.
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>>161816871
She doesn't have a limit though. If they counter her she'll push harder. They thought of a surefire hit in the friendship blast of ep.18 but it didn't work due to Charon.
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>>161810106
>No but I love to hate it
Pretty much this.

Also Shark.
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>>161816914
They have never bothered to see if she had a limit. Furthermore, she's actively trying to kill them, so who cares if she'll try to push harder? She's already trying to push as hard as she can to kill them.

Also, considering her poor writing and the series in general, if Charon could stop it the move would have never worked in the first place. It's a nothing series with nothing to care for.
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>Sirius
literally who
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>>161817238
>She's already trying to push as hard as she can to kill them.
But no. She let Hikayu go.
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>>161817277
Her goal is to annihilate the universe and everyone in it. There's no such thing as actually letting someone go. Furthermore, this was meant to be the final battle, so they absolutely should have started pushing by that point.
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>>161817277
After making her completely powerless.
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>>161817247
I'm actually sad about her, that was a good design and was only used in half an episode, what a waste
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>>161817238
>She's already trying to push as hard as she can to kill them.
No she isn't. She could have obliterated everyone from the get go but she didn't.
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>>161817341
I unironically felt really bad for her with all the "only a doll made to defeat Altair". The entire thing was basically so evil that you knew it couldnt work.
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>>161817343
Her goal is to kill them all at the end. If not for the poor writing of the asinine "I'm going to sit on my ass for six months", she'd have long since tried to do so in a final push. They have always needed to take her down, and knowing this was their final shot in general, the time to probe and test things out was upon them, and six months long.
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>>161817343
Thats because shes intent on increasing her acceptance.
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>>161805666

She could just erase the spiral power back to ep 1 status or become like Gurren Lagann herself. Some of you just really fail to comprehend how bullshit she is.
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>>161817437
They never knew where she was.
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>>161817462
Fucking around for no reason has been a normal thing for her even before the bird cage though, and the way she's just trounced everyone and made likeable characters look bad before ultimately killing them would do no one favors.
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>>161817516
Trying to find out where she was would be an obvious thing they'd attempt to do in that time period if they were even remotely intelligent. Even if they couldn't find her, they could at least test out their ideas and see if they worked the next time they fought her.
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Can someone explain what the fuck even happened with Shark girl.

In fact i've completely failed to understand her abilities the entire manga, what relevance does it even have to the scene that occurs?
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>>161817415
yeah, her whole existence is to counter basically her sister, she was a deprived from a personality to do so, and on top of that she fails less than 5 minutes in and her existence is basically absorbed, she only existed by herself less than 5 minutes
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>>161805330
Dropping her show.
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>>161817506
You cant erase spiral power nigger, its a power that fucks probability, time,universe,laws of physics nd dimensions themselves in multiversescale

>Gurren in ep 1 status
Simon still drills her ass. Hes the source of Gurrens power.
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>>161817738
Holopsicon the 100th movement: Dropping the swow every week. This makes the audience drop the show every week and pick it back up when the next episode comes out.
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>>161805330
anybody who can time travel and change the past to prevent her creator from becoming a train paint job.
this in mind even fucking Okabe Rintaro could defeat her.
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How the fuck does deleting the plot even work.
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>>161817786
But it doesn't make any sense why would people pick up a show that they dropped?
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>>161817837
Imagine absolutely nothing once the universe ends. No light, no sound, nothing.
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>>161815925

Altair reminds me a bit of Black Rock Shooter. If they're even remotely similar than it explains why she has no real limits against other characters with fixed plots and abilities.
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So can we confirm Mother's Basement was wrong yet again saying this anime would become a classic and one that everyone will remember?
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>>161817786
The ratings are low as fuck bro. The series is dead.

>>161817694
Should have made her become the villain instead on the "same person" principle. It's literally wasted space and a horrendous botch on existential opportunity and pondering to have her not matter and be absorbed. Plus, it's a better story if they accidentally wrote her super form for her instead of her doing some dumb shit out of her ass.
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>>161814948
Those are Soda's glasses that she wore that one time
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>>161817754
erasing spiral power? Maybe not, making Simon and the others unable to use it? Reasonable, she would have to study the mechanics of the show beforehand, both of them are bullshit powers after all, and there is also the fact that she could find a way to use spiral power herself
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>>161817786
Approved
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>>161817837
It's a power that would realistically only work on creations in her universe. She's actually fairly limited because unlike most other powerful characters she is considered fictional in universe so she can't bring out anything too overpowered which other reality warpers have no trouble with in any reality or universe they find themselves in
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>>161817754

You have no proof to back that up. However, we've seen her fuck up other character's abilities, even though their writers are their to help them out. Until there is proof she wins against GL.
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>>161817873
It just works.
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>>161817918
The holopsicon is omnipotent, ratings dont matter.

>>161817873
Neither does deleting the plot, nor that retarded "inverting casuality" meme we have since gae bolg, so who cares at this point?
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>>161817923
Right but they're not Setsuna's glasses and are wrong for the scene being played out. Soda is probably remembering as he saw her but it's still wrong.
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>>161817908
Black Rock Shooter's stories still have some consistency and limits to them, along with a depth of risk and hardship in combat. Black Rock Shooter is also a mute in a lot of cases while other characters handle the dialogue and plot movement. Altair fails at this and thus does not function in those crucial ways that could ever prop up this series or make her well-written in general.
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>>161817978

>their
"There." Wow my English is failing me today.
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>>161805330
Her.
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>>161818048
METEORA WILL BE THE BECOME
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>>161818014

In those individual stories maybe. Her powerlevel in the games are different from the manga, or even the anime. She wasn't really created with limitations in mind, or even a background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rR-H-ngTgI
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>>161817946
well, then I guess she is at her strongest while in the native universe of said OP characters, the universe itself determines how much power she can use, so in one universe she could be on your regular shonen level fighting lets say Ichigo, then be on par with Demonbane in it's universe, this is without taking her meta powers into consideration, if she destroys the creators universe there is nothing Demonbane could do
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So, is Soda's plan to show the audience Altair's motivation in order for them to lose interest in Altair as a character and thus reject her?
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>>161818268
She's flexible, but still within certain boundaries. She fills different roles in different settings, but nothing that can be grossly exaggerated like Altair is. Black Rock Shooter is actually balanced and functional, and above all likeable. Also, time stamp the video at least instead of dumping a 14-minute thing.

>>161818048
>She literally created a better ending

Only the recap was good among the cour two episodes.
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>>161818448

Perhaps Altair started out flexible and limited, but became the monster that she is due to her increasing popularity/acceptance.
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>>161818448
>She fills different roles in different settings
You realize this is how Altair harnesses all of her power right? I mean your post in its entirety is dumb I don't know why you bother talking about Altair or the show at all.
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She is weaksauce compared to Demonbane. Though I suppose that someone with metafiction powers like Featherine Augustus Aurora could beat her by rewriting the rules of the universe as well.
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>>161818529
Featherine Augustus Aurora was only strong in the meta-world.
Her influence in the real world is small.
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>>161805330
Is Altair a slav?
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>making physical contact with the evil boss's Hat/Ring/Staff/Object of Power after they have been defeated

They are writers but didn't know to avoid one of the most obvious twists in narrative?
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>>161818614
She reminds me of a Russian but her skin tone is way too cold
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>>161817941
Spiral power is exclusive for Tengen Toppa races desu

>erasi it
It requires you to alter life itself that can resist bullshit hax like reality,probability, time and outright removal.

Antispiral are multiverse busters and TTGL stomped em.

>>161817978
>B but you have no proof
Watch the show or read TTGLs wikipage.

>Fuck over spiral power or mechs
Spiral power and Lagann are very much alive
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>>161817786
Send a C&D to horriblesubs and DDoS nyaa, that oughta severly reduce her power for enough time.
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>>161818487
What's the arbitrary point where that happened then? The characters could have at least tried to research that and possibly harness it for themselves.

>>161818501
Black Rock Shooter has actual settings and products. Altair has random videos.
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What if their last resort is meteora summoning this version of herself.
To gain acceptance, she was in all recap episode, or easter egg.
A joke character when she can one shot Altair.
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>>161818700

I watched TTGL years ago anon. It came out a decade ago.
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>>161818700
>Spiral power is exclusive for Tengen Toppa races desu
Altair can change this.
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>>161818807

She literally explained this episode how she works, even though its been implied for half the series now. They tried to "harness that power" with Sirius, but it backfired.
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>>161818832
>Suddenly gain spiral power as drill enters her midriff
Ebin. Plus TTGL can move faster than her brains can fire neurons desuwa
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>>161818832
No
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>>161818907
>>161818937
Well yes, one of her abilities is to rewrite the story at will. You don't seem to understand how bullshit she really is.
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>>161818815
I'm sad we will never see Altair 2.0 vs Sluteora in an all out fistfight while it's pouring down rain.
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>>161818815
Accept the true ending.
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>>161818998
Now I want to see this.
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>>161805330
>rewrites the entire story however she wants to fit her likings

remember if you defeat her it's because she wrote the story to be so
she is the author of it after all
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>>161818700

"Between one and none there lies an infinity."

Altair has no background, therefore has no limits on what she can achieve as long as she gains acceptance. Anything less than a meta character does not stand a chance against her.
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>>161818960
>Try to rewrite history when your opponent is FTL
Plus there is no guarantee that that will affect the present given GL alt dimension hop
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>>161819121
There is no "trying" when it comes to Holopsicon, it just works.
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>>161819085
>No background means no limits for power
Heh kiddo, watch who youre talking to. Plus no limits to power is a stretch that is unsupported by current episodes.

>Meta character
Yah, big fish in small pond
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>>161819209
>Plus no limits to power is a stretch that is unsupported by current episodes.
The only thing that stopped was herself so
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>>161819209

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree. Talking with you is becoming tiresome. What will be will be, regardless of our opinions.
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>>161819157
>It just works
Or it wont and she gets drilled.

During the time she thinks about rewriting history shes dead thanks to speed difference

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>>161819242
Yeah she stopped herself ergo she hasnt been shown to be capable
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> If you don't accept that the world will be saved then it will end
Guys I keep trying to blow it all up but nothing's happening.
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>>161819304
Mecha will always lose to Altair because she can just teleport next to the pilot and kill her.
>>161819346
This.
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>>161819398
Both of Gurren Lagann's main battles ended in melee combat.
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>>161819469
You think Simon can kill Altair hand to hand?
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>>161819398
>teleport to pilot
>Implying she isnt wiped away with the billions of stars within billions of lightyears when Lagann nudges
>Teleport next to simon
>Get drilled
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>>161819489
He killed Lordgenome and the fucking Antispiral that way. Spiral Power could probably beat her too.
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>>161819346
>Summoning /pol/
Way to go, everyone dies of cancer.
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>>161819346
They did tho
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>>161819346
They did but Altair won anyway.
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>>161819519
What happens when you put a few sabers through simon?
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>>161819580
Obviously he dodges to not get shanked by said sabers, just like how he dodged all of the Antispiral's attacks and played possum to lure in Lordgenome.
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>>161819580
>putting sabers through a person with Simons.reaction speed
Okay, Simon can pilot a mech that regularly zips close to FTL in space plus dodges lasers plus outpunches an eldrich gods

Shes gonna get drilled
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This show seems like a huge waste of time for everyone involved, fictional and real.
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>>161819683
Cool. But what happens if you put a number of sabers through him?
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>>161819538
>>161819561
But Sirius wasn't a meme

She was literally I'm you but cuter the character
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>>161819718
>Teleport next to Simon
>Get drilled
She doesnt have the speed for it anon. Shes gonna get speedblizzed
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>drill altair
>nothing happens
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>>161819763
Cool. But what happens if you put a number of sabers through him?
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>>161814745
Sirius is the brightest star in the sky
Do you even stars anymore?
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>>161819718
He could probably power through even then. Spiral Power is some amazing stuff.
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>>161819519
Are you dumb? Simon can be really fucking strong, but he isn't meta-warping tier.
He isn't the author, like Featherine or Ajimu.
He isn't the reader, like FRESH.
He isn't the audience like Altair.
He can eat entire universes, or kill anyone who even thinks of attacking you, nor can he reverse causality.
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>>161819791
i'd drill her if you know what a i mean.
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>>161819791
>Get drilled yourself
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>>161819800
Do you not see the connection between Altair, Deneb and Vega?
Watch the first Bakemonogatari ending.
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>>161819795
You really cant given she stops existing before the light paints.TTGL on her retinas

>Flash vs pepe
Gee
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>>161819832
The Antispiral had all sorts of shit to its name, but a Spiral Power drill still killed it. Altair is a clusterfuck of exaggerated fan art. Simon has a legit shot.
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>>161819848
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>>161819864
>Pepe deletes flash
>Pepe reverses causality
>Pepe removes flash's powers
>Pepe fazes through flash's attacks
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>>161819873
You should watch TTGL again. Nobody messed with causality, multiverses or anything of the sort. The most we got was STTGL stepping on galaxies.
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>>161819915
pepe gets his brains blown out before he can think

>implying Altair has shit on multiverse busters
Cmon lad
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>people who don't understand what Gurren Lagann's power is
I want summer to end.
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>>161819963
>Multiverses
Can't play with things that don't exist.
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>>161819919
The Antispiral had that dream-like trap, there were entire pocket universes that ceased to exist when the Antispiral was defeated, and Spiral Power had insane ceilings it could reach, with the end of the series hinting that Simon can indeed reach them. In an all-out serious fight, Simon has a shot.
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>>161819980
I just don't remember. It has been a very long time.
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>>161819980
and it all doesn't matter, Altair would just rewrite the story to suit her.
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>>161819919

He's not changing his opinion, no matter what logic you throw at his face. His own bias limits his perspective, so no common ground and/or understand can be reached.

Pic related. Reasonable discussion no longer holds weight here.
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>>161820056
>rewriting the story
There aint no stories desu plus Gurren Lagann could still go against it and win
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>>161820132
Gurren Lagann has a plot, Anon. A very good one too.
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>>161819036
Truth.
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>>161819919
>I didnt watch TTGL
Looking at the final fight out of youtube doesnt count newfag
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>>161813547
>She wasn't designed to be a meta character
She wasn't designed to be anything

>these creators that keep making up super weird meta powers like "delete the plot line of another character"

For the last fucking time, it's not that her fans are creating fanworks where she gets new powers, is that she picks whatever meme thing she does in fanworks and turns it into a power even if it was never meant to be a power.

Why the fuck is this so hard for people to get this? holy shit.
It's actually one of the few things that were properly shown and explained instead of just being infodumped, and yet people still can't get it through their fucking skulls.
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>>161820184
And without it, it will still Do the Impossible See the Invisible, Row Row fight the Powah.

Altair loses.
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>>161820566
>it will still Do the Impossible See the Invisible, Row Row fight the Powah.
No it won't, that's part of the plot.
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>>161805330
Well she has the power that everything that happens in fanworks of her is Canon, the main source of all of her powers and abilities.

Unfortunately, this includes Doujinshi.

The dick anon, she can't beat the dick. No one can.
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>>161820566
Plot armor is gone when you face her. Her first victim is a for-kids mahou shoujo
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>>161820590
And without it, it will still Do the Impossible See the Invisible, Row Row fight the Powah.

Just who the hell do you think we are?
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>>161820656
Now you're just roleplaying.
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>Souta's creation is Setsuna
I fucking called it and I'm getting so god damn sick of being right all the time. I called Magane helping Souta, too.
Throw me a god damn curve ball you stupid fucking cartoon.
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>>161820693
Yeah, but this is pretty much a null argument of "No U."

"I delete u."
"doesn't matter."
"yes it does."
"no it dont."
"yes is does."
"i drill u."
"hah no u drill yourself."
"I am powerd by drills, I level up row row row your boat."
"shit, i delete dat."

Ect.
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Only answer.
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>>161820790
I mean he had a creation and so few options. The only other possibility was Shirotsumekusa and they have done a version of her in Sirius.
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Infinity God Machine never played, right?
Looks like they are doing fighting so I don't see how it Rui's theme could be used at this point.
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>2 episodes left
>Soda hasn't interacted with Altair at all

You'd think it would be an important plot point, what with how she reacted to him in ep1.
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>>161821938
why?
She was just surprised that he appeared there in Selesia's world.
She knows him but doesn't really care about him since he doesn't really have anything to do with her not her plans.
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>>161822187
>Her creator's sole emotional support that abandoned her in her greatest hour of need.
You'd think Altair might've had at least some interest in him. Especially considering he is the only person alive who knew who her creator was, if she had just killed him first she wouldn't now be about to lose.
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Is there any writer in the anime industry who isn't a hack?
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>>161822312
I think she doesn't care as much as Setsuna did. To her he's only got a ticket to the ride to hell
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>SodaCAN's epins twist is just summoning Setsuna in to talk Altair down
>instead of actually gary stu'ing his way in to talk her down himself

HE'S EVEN A MAJOR PUSSY AFTER SHARKTEETH GIVES HIM THE POWER OF EVERYTHING POSSIBLE
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>>161822663

>implying it isn't a giant ruse and that is in fact Soda in disguise

The fact she's wearing his glasses instead of her original red glasses is highly suspicious. Either Soda totally fucked up (which will send Altair into a screeching autistic fit of rage), or it's him in disguise.
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>>161822663
The worst part is that everyone saw setsuna coming from a mile away and yet the show made treated as if it were THAT. If you're going to use THAT make it something unexpected for fucks sake.
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>*teleports inside u*
heh.... all according to keikaku...
>*dodges hangakus attack, even though it literally goes straight through her*
you thought you had a chance? hoouu..
>*sets health value to 9999999 in cheat engine*
holopscion 64th movement..
>*swords now orbiting hime at 10x the speed of light*
n-nani?!
>*accidentally uses the wrong holopscion movement, and changes her outfit to a virgin killing sweater*
>*hat-kun falls off again*
m-masaka!
>*fans flood the streets to give her double headpats, curtain falls, and everyone else exits stage left*
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>>161822900
>*action*
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>>161822663
Altair is way too OP. I don't really think they can defeat her in a battle.
The only option they have is her to lose interest in her revenge and fuck off to another dimension.
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>>161820809
>"I am powerd by drills, I level up row row row your boat."

wew lad, that effectively sums up all 27 episodes of ttgl
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A lie about a lie
will turn...
inside out.
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Altair is undefeatable by simple fact that she wields the power of a creator and can change the plot of fiction to her liking.

All this talk of universes and time and space manipulation is pointless because they're just creations. Words in fiction that can easily be changed.

Compared to Gurren Lagann, she's Kazuki Nakashima.
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Reality altering is impossible to beat.
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>>161810029
No. It's enjoyable but it's really frustrating how much potential you can see from the concept, only for them to barely scrape the surface at every opportunity. Like even just simple shit.
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But can altair kill servants?
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>>161823728
>It's enjoyable
Barely. I'm not even sure why I'm still watching. It's frusttrating how much time and potential they waste on the most trivial things.
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>>161815925
And if she's popular enough to get all these shitloads of fan interpretations all over the internet, how did it take them so long to figure out who the fuck she was at the beginning? Initially they presented her as some sort of completely unknown character, then brought in some notable controversy, and now suddenly she has limitless powers because of all the fanwanking over her.
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>>161823898
Dear god, it will never end >>161818545
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>>161823973
Alright, I don't see an answer. Why couldn't the government couldn't find her?
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>>161823898
The government never got a good look at her. All they had was really distant images of her. Fatty was the first person other than Souta to see her up close and he found her in short order.
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>>161815925
>Why is one person's music video even getting that much fanfiction and stuff?
Literal meme character.

>Furthermore, what exactly are the videos? Is someone giving her these powers outright
Liberal interpretations of stuff that happens in fanart.

>that would have lent itself better to a younger child playing pretend on a playground.
She's basically an edgy, chuuni version of minus, so it fits. She's not exactly acting mature.
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>>161824035
Not that guy but let me ask you something first. Are you talking about when they first started getting blurry pics of Altair all over the world, or after they started working with Meteora and the rest?
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>>161824122
Both I guess. Even when it's just blurry pics, it shouldn't have been too hard to find her if she was really as popular as this episode seems to imply. An afternoon of searching on notbooru would have been enough to at least find her as a candidate. And while they did find out her identity more quickly once they got more info on her, it still took way longer than it should have.
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>>161824035
its obvious they could find her if they got any good pictures. they couldnt, so it was hard to identify her. try narrowing down a blurry person at night high up floating in the air and searching for their fanart / anime equivalent on website like pixiv where there are hundreds of thousands of characters and OC.

No shit they would find her if they got a good look at her. And it's not like she could be found through Akinator either, she has no story.
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>>161824219
The Government literally thought it was UFO sightings or it was all a hoax.
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>>161824219
The reason is why they didn't find her at first is really fucking obvious. They did not know she was a fictional character that had come to life, so they had no reason to search the internet for her.
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>>161818998
>I'm sad we will never see Altair 2.0 vs Sluteora in an all out fistfight while it's pouring down rain.
Is this the Matrix?
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>>161824080
Altair has never acted mature, she tries to be serious but with that she comes of as smug, not to mention the emotional mess she can be sometimes, she literally is a spoiled child but I love because of that
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Would shark's quality drastically decline if she was shown more often?
Is her BEST status directly tied to how little she actually appears?
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>>161824393
Blitz please, you should go take care of your daughter and not post on underground communication channels.
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Dere Altair next episode. I can't bear to see her die. So the acceptable ending would be drama between her and setsuna.
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We all know how to beat her
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>>161825105
>suddenly the cock is in your ass
>she becomes a futa
What now?
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>>161825156
Good end.
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>>161824035
>>161824122
>>161824219
>>161824244

They did find her.

The events up until episode 11 took place in a span of 2 weeks.

First the goverment barely knew what was going on.
Then they contacted Meteora and the others and that's where they started searching for her with a very vague idea and a blurry video that didn't help much since they only had the "Military Uniform Princess" description, which understandably only gave other results since her fans call her Altair and not "MUP"
Then less than a week after that, fatty continued searching since he had a better idea because he saw her in person.
Yes less than a fucking week, I think around 4 days to finally find her after formally starting to search for her(you can check the dates), that seems a pretty short search time to me.
So it's pretty fucking retarded to say that they "couldn't find her".
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>>161805330
ALTAIR....

I'VE COME TO BARGAIN
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>>161825337
I think they didn't find where she was hiding, that was my point in that discussion
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>>161825456
They were never going to find where she was. She was literally hiding in a pocket dimension between worlds.
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I want Altair to whisper lewd stuff to my ears all day long.
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>>161825664
Yeah. Mamika popped a several kiloton nuke and noone bat an eye.
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>>161819718
>But what happens if you put a number of sabers through him?

1) there will be a frame showing simon going down
2) Altair Does a Monologue
3) altair gets cut off and wide eyed
>The tomorrow we're trying to reach is...not a tomorrow you've decided on! etc. etc.
4) simon uses blood to make a drill
5) ?????
6) ProfNina disappears at the end
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>>161805330
Sirius would have worked if they had given her MC status in the crossover as a direct rival to Altair. Not only would she have gotten more acceptance that way instead of being kept together by magic and duct tape, it would also have been a chance to villainize Altair and define her powers (and weaknesses) clearly. Since she has no creator anymore, what the majority accepts becomes her "canon".

Instead, the creators went full retard and gave Meteora a fanfiction to stroke her ego instead of blowing out Altair.
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fighting bullshit power with bullshit power is very easy
just throw a random character from /a/ power list chart.
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>>161825456
Then next time pay attention to fucking convo.
This idiot >>161823898 >>161824219 was arguing that it took too long and was too hard to find her.
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>>161825742
More like
>Bleeds out and dies
Lot of plot-armor has been torn through so far.
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Sounds like a dumb Mary Sue good thing I passed on this show.
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Threesome with Sirius and Altair!
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>>161825105
>plot twist,dicks are weak to a water guns now
she can just do that
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>>161825822
Shes beyond mary sue,is pepe /miku a mary sue?
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>>161825813
>plot armor

simon has the ultimate plot armor. And there's a precedence in ttgl.

Kamina getting stabbed by a spear bigger than his body was able to monologue for like 20 fucking minutes, catch gurren's sun glasses, adjust it, btfo cannon fodders and GIGA DRILLU BREAKUUUU

i'm not saying simon's gonna live through it, but he can kill altair
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>>161825763
Problem with doing that is that Altair would have known about it rather easily. They kept Sirius more a less as a secret weapon for this purpose.
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>>161825763
if altair knew about her ahead of time,can she just stop them from summoning her?
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>>161825977
I don't think her personality qualifies her as a Mary Sue. No one who knows her trusts her or wants to work with her, except for one guy.
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I was expecting that the confrontation of Altair with Setsuna would be for the last episode, so talk no jutsu for 2 episodes?
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>>161826019
Just stop mate.
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>>161826076
The glasses are a major flag, but I don't know where that will take the story. There is still shirotsumekusa but the chances are low.
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>>161826019
Did you not read the OP?
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>>161826019
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>>161826082
>altair shills btfo

get rekt scrub xD
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>>161826030
they screwed up. Now they're going to face something even more powerful.

but it begs the question; If Altair took over Sirius's body, then she's now somebody else's creation.
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>>161826143
This is what Altair has reduced you to.
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>>161826019
Replace Altair with Pepe/Miku/Cat Videos
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You guys don't understand. Aquarion Logos can literally delete her. His power is about ass bullshit as it comes, even more so than being the "author".
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>>161826142
Still hurts.
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>>161826153
It's probably similar to the fanworks of her. It's just another piece of material that gets added to Altair.
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>>161826153
>somebody else's creation

tfw you wish the writers for this shitshow is smart enough to pull that off

it's gonna end in
>that's enough altair, you've done enough :')
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>>161826236
Miku Alter can beat that
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>>161826300

You can't even construct proper sentences, plus you use Reddit-spacing for reasons. Should you really be questioning other people's intelligence?
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Behold /a/
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>>161825763
>>161826030

Making Sirius the MC of the crossover isn't that easy.
The problem with that is acceptance.
Altair was accepted as the villain because she was already popular. Making a literal who the hero from the beginning is just as bad as shoving her near the end, except that in that case they wouldn't even be able to set cage due to the poor acceptance.
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>>161826301
Not even memeing, I honestly don't think anything can top Logos in power. H's literally at the top of dumb anime strength
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>>161826395
Even a fucking shitty robot could beat her though.
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>>161826491
Then who is Logos' author?
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>>161820495

I think this show might be too intelligent for /a/.
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>>161826610
She is above most characters power level wise. She is literally God.
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>>161826610
We won't even need Haruhi to fight. We just need her to get pissed enough at the story so far.
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>>161826390
>proper sentences
>spacing
>cambodian cartoon image boards

wew lad
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>>161826030
>>161826044
But keeping her a secret also ruined her acceptance levels, which in turn fucked up the entire plan. And since they used the entire fucking show to establish the concept of acceptance levels, they should have known better than that.

>>161826416
> Making a literal who the hero from the beginning is just as bad as shoving her near the end

That's why you have to build her up. Call her Vega and tie her up to the legend. Japane would eat that shit up right there.

Restricting Altair's unlimited power through proper storytelling would have been more important, though.
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>>161826636
Logos erased the concept of authors
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>>161826665
Not after Holopsicon number six hundred and sixty six hollows out her power.
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>>161826713
Approved
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>>161826713
Altair would probably become friends with Haruhi to be honest.
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>>161826698
It was a chance they had to take. If Altair had found out about it beforehand then they would be fucked even harder. She might not even have waited for them to finish preparing the show if it pissed her off enough.
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>>161805330
couldn't they try to delete the niconico videos involving her, since if powers are based on acceptance if there is nothing to accept then there is no power
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>>161805330
This anime is dumb
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>>161826713
My (wife) Altair is so cute.
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>>161826700
Do people actually read all of these?
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>>161826700
This is exactly what Altair can counter
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>>161826803
The Streisand effect would become the Altair effect and she would go full mainstream.
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>>161826236
You're arguing that fictional characters are more powerful than the equivalent of Satelight and C2C.

Just stop, creations get hard countered by Creators/Altair.
>>
>demonbane
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>>161826828
Cute!
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>>161826828
You're trying to gain acceptance of Altair bing your waifu here in 4chan? Pathetic, because she is my waifu.
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>>161826889
If that's the case, normal humans are stronger than Altair if they band together and destroy anime and anyone that watches it. Then destroy the planet and return to nothingness.
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>>161826785
>literally rants about bumbling gods that don't care about the consequences of their stories and tormenting creations for their amusement
>befriending a bumbling god that manipulates reality for her own amusement
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>>161826048
Being edgy doesn't disqualify somebody from being a Mary Sue.
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>>161826949
Haruhi doesn't know she is a God.
Maybe Altair would become friends with Kyon instead.
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>>161826948
Well yeah, that's like the entire plot of Re:Creators.
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>>161826925
Yes, she is very cute!
>>161826934
As for you faggot, too late! We've been married ever since the Promotional Poster!
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>>161826975
i approve of this ntr. doujins when?
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>>161826948
If you've been watching Re:Creators that's what the protagonists have been trying to do and they've lost so far.
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>>161826992
Uso no uso.
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>>161827029
Oh shit
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>>161826934
Dont worry Altair can multiply herself so each of us can have our very own waifu
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>>161826975
It doesn't matter if she knows she's a god. AT BEST she would manipulate Haruhi into doing what she wants before getting rid of her.
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>>161805330
cute
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>>161826786
> She might not even have waited for them to finish preparing the show if it pissed her off enough.

But she clearly needed the Birdcage as a stage to power herself up. That's why she was sitting on her couch for months doing fuckall.

She can't go around and wreck shit everywhere or the world would say "FUCK YOU!" and throw her out.
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>>161827029
Stop it, you'll inevitably be summoning Magane fags
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>>161827029
That's not you uso no uso faggot you don't even have a good picture for it.
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>>161827053
but MY altair is the best
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>>161826713
I have to say that any Universe destroying enemy could kill her because she can't even destroy the universe and it most likely why no Universe destroying being show up in reality because in this World they would be throw out like Altair was almost back in episode 10
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Decade's got this guys
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>>161827093
Then, why don't you provide one?
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>yfw the hat was the true body all along
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I'm not really well known, I can kick her ass
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>>161827136
Because I don't provide faggots with the proper Uso no Uso pictures. Put in the effort yourself or get out.
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>>161827096
Not canon. And my Altair is best.
>>161827053
I'm quite undecided whether that's not a good idea or not.
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>>161827159
I'm glad that Hat-kun still has his home.
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>>161826874
well then couldn't they taint the well and upload videos of her being essentially nerfed
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>>161827241
Cute!
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>>161827220
>>161827096
nt senpaitachi, mine is clearly the best
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>>161827053
This is my Altair.
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>>161827096
No but MY Altair can win both waifuwars and powerlevel arguments easily.
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>>161827053
>Altair can multiply herself
>Altairfags rejoice in that they can simultaneously share their waifu and keep her all to themselves
>they all go lesbian for eachother

Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
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>>161827053
You guys would make them fight each other like Pokemons.
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>>161827298
How dare you make her do that! She should use a washing machine instead! You're making my Altair angry.
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I need some crazy eyes yandere Altair pictures, STAT
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>>161819832
>He isn't the reader, like FRESH.
FRESH was the reader? All I remember was rubberband.
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>>161827332
They all go lesbians for each other, and NTRs Altairfags. Sounds good to me. So that my Altair would be the only one left.
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>>161827439
He was supposed to be the reader, since it's the only person the author can't affect. The rubber band is literally just him tearing through the pages, at least in my interpretation.
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>>161827472
>Implying that she won't do the same to you.
You'll be the one who will get NTRed brutally. Then you will also won't be able to catch the train.
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>>161827472
But, anon, your Altair is the catalyst for making them all go lesbian! She's the FIRST Altairsbian!
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>>161827096
nah
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>>161827385
I love how disgusted she was right there. Nice voice acting.
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>>161827542
No, why would my Altair be the first Altairsbian?
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>>161827618
You just signed your own death warrant Yuuya, wait doesn't that affect my Altair too?
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>a power level discussion transitioned into yuri selfcest NTR fantasies
never change, 4bins
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>>161827618
Because she summoned all the other Altairs! She tricked you and made you think they were for a Gunpuku no Harem when, infact, she was lesbian all along and just needed your acceptance to summon more for her selfcest orgy that YOU aren't even invited to watch! All the Altairs are lesbians for themselves only!
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>>161827658
We all agreed that Altair is the strongest.
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>>161827658
Altair is too powerful it can derail threads at will
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>>161827063
but they didn't know that you fuck

also it doesn't matter if she wasn't doing anything, they were running against time since the fabric of reality could tear apart at any moment
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How much are they going to charge for the new outfit?
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>>161826803
>>161827270

Every fucking time.
I feel like I'm trapped in an infinite loop
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Both Altair and Magane are boring concepts of characters.
Altair is just a time bomb and Magane is a finicky wish-granting entity (almost like Nanika).

I can't wait for this show to end and be forgotten.
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>>161827818
or a birdcage
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>>161827795
I still prefer the old one. But I can agree for sure that the new outfit is cute!
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>>161827866
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>>161827818
Have you experienced FOREKNOWLEDGE?
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these dubs
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>>161805330
Deleting my plot was all apart of the plan
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>>161827833
Uso no uso.
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>>161827888
I like the new one more, feels more dynamic and combat ready
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>>161827934
Those aren't dubs at all.
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dropped this shit when mamika died, what episode do I hop back in with
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I expected 10 episodes shark would pop up as the antagonist when Altair is defeated but I guess not. This is a good gig to be able to stay in the real world.
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>>161828010
you hope in fuck off
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>>161818189
THE KING (RE) OF CREATORS (Tokyo of Ghouls)
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>>161827969
>Uso no uso
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WTF IS THIS SHIT
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>>161827988
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>>161817978
>you have no proof
FOOL
Spiral power is the manifestation of the concept of bullshit. I'm not fucking kidding, it works by making asspulls and nonsense look awesome. It is never explained because the users are too stupid and hotblooded to care and understand
watch the fucing show
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>>161827940
KUBOOOOOOOO
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>>161827969
Remember that relying on Magane is called "jumping the shark".
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>>161805330
Take my approval and stop this bitch.
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>>161828062
>>161827988
>>161827934
I don't know who's uso no usoing who.
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So they have 2 episodes to try to have a ghost convince Altair to stop fighting? I doubt this will work but if they want to have Altair lose this is literally the only option and everyone pretty much guessed it ages ago.
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>>161828065
>since when were you under the impression I was Sirius
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>>161828070
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>>161827979
The heels are interesting.
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OUT OF MY WAY ALTAIR FUCKING SHIT
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>>161828099
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Give him an anime power, anything doesnt matter, and he'd use her as toilet paper.
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>>161828149
The answer was me. It was me all along, taking your dubs twice in a row.
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>erases ur existence

nothing personal
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>>161828010
>muh mamika
Wanna know how dead she is?
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>>161828305
As dead as magical girls nowadays?
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>>161827888
The old outfit was cuter but I like the new a lot too. Seems more sexy.
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>>161828305
that doesn't really answer my question
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>>161827988
>>161828099
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>>161827969
Does the uso no uso mechanic make any fucking sense to anyone here, just wondering
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>>161828440
yes
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>>161828440
Not at all.
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>>161828353
the answer to your question is hop in from where Mamika died.
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>>161828440
No (uso no uso).
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>>161820809

No, it's the same thing that when OPM aired and a lot of people discussed the Goku vs Saitama.

''LOL Goku is the strongest, he is faster, super saiyan...etc''

Both Altair and Saitama are characters not made to be taken serious on powerlevel discussions.

Altar wins because she have bullshit powers, period.
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>>161828440
It makes perfect sense if you know how to actually uso no uso.

That guy is a faggot though and doesn't know it.
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>>161828440
Lots of people today can't help but resolve to jumping the shark. It's just so amusing.
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>>161828499
well shit I was hoping to get some work done this weekend
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>>161820495
>>161816059
> Fans makes a fanvideo of her doing impossible things
> She translates those cartoon stuff into her own power

That would make the fanvid creators her "creator" and source of her power as well, right? If they stopped making vids then she wouldn't get anymore additional powers.
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>>161828010
almost dropped this shit when no one died after mamika for ten episodes
death makes us grow stronger anon, we must witness the weak perish to strengthen our resolve
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Where's she flying to?
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>>161805330
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>>161816059
So all those Sonic fanfic will create a monster eventually, right?
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>>161828559
>I can't wait for this show to end and be forgotten
He then use the Uso no Uso mechanic, the show now will not end and never be forgotten, seems like you're the one who don't know how to use it you faggot.
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>>161828648
To a better anime
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would Altair beat Daiz?
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>>161828607
Doesn't seem like the want to stop though.
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>>161826700
>Boss Borot

Everytime
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>>161828607
>If they stopped making vids then she wouldn't get anymore additional powers.
Yes, but you can't stop people from making memes

See Pepe and Wojack
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>>161828607
Though I believe the protag team could also slip in weaknesses into Altair using this system. They explained they cant completely depower Altair by uploading shit content because muh acceptance, but I dont see whats stopping them from giving a weak spots here and there.

That should be accepted pretty easily.
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>>161828648
To our world, specifically America, so that she will become president and cause a Global Thermonuclear Warfare thus ending our world.
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>>161828676
Yeah, a guy made a statement, then someone tried to uso no uso because he's an idiot and doesn't know how it works (like you). Guy didn't make a statement, then someone call him a liar/the statement bullshit, for him to uso no uso. It's POSSIBLE you can understand picture related, but even that might be too complicated for you.
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>>161828648
new york
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>>161822844
In one of the early episodes setsuna put her glasses on soda and his vision cleared like they were his own. Setsuna is soda's tulpa/alter ego he created because he had no friends.
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>>161828731

I wonder how many times this has been asked
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>>161828761
That shit's actually entertaining, that's why it won't happen, too bad.
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>>161828731
No they can't slip weaknesses into the videos because Altair doesn't need to use the content as is. She chooses what she wants from the content and uses it as she pleases.

Fuck this shit has been asked weeks now. I'm amazed at how these concepts are so difficult to understand for some people.
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>>161828648
Better question, where did she get the funds do even do they shit she's done?
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>>161828782
Just saying, if people made memes about Wojack beating up Pepe and then summoned Wojack in the final Armageddon against Pepe, they would have an easier time and the acceptance shouldnt be difficult to get.
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>>161828483
what makes a lie actually be about another lie, as opposed to simply being a second sequential lie in the same topic?

also, is an inside-out lie actually truth? does that mean all lies have truth on the inside? do all truths have lies on the inside? i'm not familiar with this geometry but it sounds particularly enlightening. perhaps that was lost in translation though..
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>>161828837
Do you actually believe Altair spends her time on youtube watching her fanfiction videos and choosing her powers from it?
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>>161828846
Holy shit fuck off.
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>>161828875
You deny her lie, she makes it true.
That's pretty much it but requiring some set up and conditions.
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>>161828846
>>161828667
>yfw you realize that all this "acceptance" shit is literally just Meme Magic
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>>161828901
she even said that she doesn't know all of her powers
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>>161828901
Fan content doesn't have a passive effect on her, all of the abilities are activated.
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>>161828842
>you will sell your car and give the money to me
>no, fuck off, brat
>uso no uso
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>>161828915
>You deny her lie, she makes it true.
but the denial wasn't a lie until after she made the first lie true, does this go beyond causality? can we ever truly determine what is and is not a lie again?
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When will she use her lewd powers?
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So will Soda's creation end Altair? Also was hoping for this to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4seTZ6siQc
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>>161829004
Tonight with me.
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>>161828842
>Short the stock market in a bull trend
>Tell Warren Buffet it will crash

Uso no Uso.
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>>161829101
>>161829004
When we are alone together.
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>>161828842

being top meido
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O MY HOLOPSICON
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>>161829175
Magane is a better villain than gun princess edgemaster girl
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Leave her to me.
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>>161829279
But Altair isn't the villain, she's the MC.
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>>161828664
Why does it look like some angry red man with bench wig coming out of Tower of Pisa while screaming to the sky?
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>>161828704
>>161828837

I'm not that other anon though. Do you guys realized that the show gathers new fans every week who are getting puzzled by Altair being overpowered?

I get it now. So she can choose whatever power she likes from the existing meme that she has. Well that's fucked up. They should devise a plan to make Altair kill / erase herself. This is not a battle of the fists anymore.
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>>161829312
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>>161829337
Yeah, she's not really a bad girl, in the end, it will be revealed that she is really a good girl. A very cute one.
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>>161829401
Then you should probably try watching the other episodes instead of starting at ep20.
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>>161829401
>They should devise a plan to make Altair kill / erase herself.
What the fuck do you think just happened? A touching reuninon setup?
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>>161829485
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>>161829401
>Kill/earase herself
You horrible human being, why would you want this cutie dead? No matter, she will always exist because We are all creators, in this fragmented poem.
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>>161829517
>A touching reuninon setup?
Yes but Soda already fucked it up.
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>>161810029
the recap episode is literally better than the rest of the series

what does that tell you

a plot about a bunch of characters from different stories should be a comedy in the first place, not some save-the-world plot it ended up being
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>>161827159
>Altair's real body is the hat

So basically she's Shinpachi and Madao? Their real bodies are their glasses.
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>>161829345
Because Stephen King did way too much coke
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>>161829465

But I already know that.
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The no-anime weeks and recap episode destroyed the hype so hard for me that I just skim through the threads now not bothering with watching it. Please send help.
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Is there any show like this before?
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>>161829794
Just skip with the Meteora parts just like how you skip NPCs talking
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>>161829794
Just the the action and Magane scenes and you'll be fine
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>>161829705
This could've been a nice reverse-isekai comedy with some plot thrown in later like Maou-sama.
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>>161827332
She can go lesbian for me
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>>161827332
Jokes on her, lesbian sex is my fetish.
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>>161805330

See, I think I've got it. I think I get the problem.

The problem with this show is that the focus is all wrong. The focus of this show is on the Creators, the people who make anime: However, the only people who are actually remotely interesting are the Creations!

I mean, I don't give a shit about Tomino, but I like Amuro from Mobile Suit Gundam. Same for (to use a plebian example) Reki Kawamura and, say, Kirito from SAO.

Creators, like most people in real life, are REALLY BORING INDIVIDUALS. Miura is way less interesting than Guts and Griffith, because he's just a nerd who likes Idolmaster way too much. The show should have focused nigh-exclusively on the Creations, with flashbacks as to their 'anime'. In fact, Souta probably shouldn't even have existed.

It's like how Blitz's arc shouldn't have ended with him getting his daughter back. His arc should've ended with him about to shoot femUrobochi, and then he finds himself looking down the barrel of Code: Babylon's actual protagonist, who has been summoned to face him down.

Then it should have ended with Blitz trying - and failing - to outdraw him, and his sidekick saying, sadly "...I was always faster than you. I'm sorry." and Blitz going "You really have become...an excellent detective..." before perishing.

Meanwhile, we should've seen more flashbacks to how evil and maniacal Yuuya was in Exclusive Underground, and how basically all his life is waiting for Syo to kill him. That kind of stuff!
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>>161829947
>>161830004
Her smug isn't gone forever, is it?
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>>161829517
Too bad, she'll go ballistic next episode and kill everybody.
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>>161830139
But that wouldn't leave enough space for Meteora to talk though
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>>161830169
Setsuna/Altair tragic yuri episode next week.
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>>161805330
Hey wassa-matta you, Altair?
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>>161830169
She is really cute
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>>161829431
What's his stand name again??
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>>161830351
BAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD
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>>161829431
are you implying star platinum wouldn't just catch those swords? or just brute oraoraoraora the swords flying at him?
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>>161830461
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>>161805330
I'm so sick of Altair, can't wait until she's dead.
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>>161830700
Agreed
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>>161830700
>>161830756
stop samefagging and shitposting from a goverment computer, Meteora,
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͏DO YOU LIKE ALTAIR?
http://poal.me/lt3hhw
http://poal.me/lt3hhw
http://poal.me/lt3hhw
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>>161830756
>>161830700
Horrible persons, I'm sick of you wishing Altair dead, I can't wait until she gets a happy end.
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>>161830898
I can't wait till she gets all the head pats and has her hair fluffed!
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>>161830839
I love her, and I voted.
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>>161830938
Her hair's already fluffy
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>>161805330
LEAVE ALTAIR TO ME!
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>>161830700
go on
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>>161830898
I just don't like Bullcrap Mary Sue OC Fanmade Character which stupid reason for destroying the World which is my Maker die because of online hater or basely 4chan in a nutshell and her friend didn't help her if we knew more about her Maker life that may of play a role in more then being bully by 4chan which is a big piece of hate and shitposting in the form of a site and have Altair say the World is completely Evil and everyone should die because of my Maker own chance.

I have lost a lot of people do to to the World Evil and taking them own life and the pain that come from this but I am not just going to hate World and give up on humans do to the choice of some Evil people or pointless hate that make some people feel better about there life by making other people suffer like they did.
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>>161831393
Is this nigga alright?
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>>161831642
I meant this nigga. >>161831527

Joseph is alright.
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>>161830139

> I mean, I don't give a shit about Tomino

That's just like, your bad taste man.
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>>161831527
goddamn that run on sentence
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>>161831393
He will bullshit his way out, he passed.
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>>161831527
Is this the new Navy Copy Pasta meme or you just have a stroke?
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>>161831527
I don't like to use this word because is a buzzword now, but I think you legit have autism
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>>161831527

This is a thing of beauty I am witnessing right now.
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>>161831393
>>161831914
Ah The Master of Bullshits.
I wonder if he can take Holopsicon from Altair.
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>>161831527
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>>161831527
This really made me think.
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>>161805330
>Who the FUCK can stop this absolute madwoman
Tecnically any well known character. It literally works on the basis of Likes.
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>>161832210
By the way, why didn't they bring a new character that is actually known? I mean, Goku or something. I'm pretty sure defending the goddamn planet is more important than copyright at this point, and people would abso-fucking-lutely accept a goku-tier character.
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>>161832210
That reminds me, the sheer amount of stories based on comic book superheroes will easily allow them to outplay Altair.

>"Good luck, I'm behind 7000 series."
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>>161832324
Because the world isn't actually ending and Re:Creators is just another anime?
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>>161832367
I think that's partially why the last episode was so bad...

if they can just bring Whatever character they want (with approval), why not bring an OP character that people like? there's plenty of them.
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>>161832367
the problem with western super heroes is that their canons are not consistent, you have shit like Golden, Silver, Dark ages in which the characters have a different set of powers and even personalities, they have the exact opposite problem of Altair
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>>161832414
"hurr durr people don't have to act logically in fiction"
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>>161832547
Goku doesn't exist in the Re:Creators universe, Anon.
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>>161832324
Even Altair could only summon characters in peak moments of popularity, tipically when their anime was airing or novel/chapter were released (and they might not have a top powerlevel series airing). And by the point Meteora got holopsicon there was barely any space for summons anymore according to Altair herself.
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Post Sirius.
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>>161832930
Have girl wrongly thought to be Sirius.
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>>161832930
well, you asked for it.
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Is the whole of Re:Creators just Soda's story?
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>>161833865
Maybe, but it makes you wonder how he filled the gaps with scenes he wasn't there to observe.
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Anime is fucking retarded
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>>161832612
My point is that there is, most likely, plenty of well-known OP characters. I doubt those characters that appeared are the most well-known characters in the entire planet.

>>161832697
>there was barely any space for summons
They did it twice
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>>161834500
For a character who was just human and from an already used setting (and right after publishing a story reviving her with high acceptance), and one that was an empty copy with lots of foreshadowing and after some other creations left already in the episode before.
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>>161805330
>Hello fellow author. I too, have bullshit meta abilities.
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>>161834580
>right after publishing a story reviving her with high acceptance
And why not publish a story where the OP appears if it's just that?

>one that was an empty copy with lots of foreshadowing
there was.. no foreshadowing
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>>161820495
The question still stands as to what the fuck was even in the videos to give her the leeway to BS those powers into existence. The show has done a horrendous job of conveying that, so all of her powers and popularity are as arbitrary as possible, ruining the whole "audience is important" part of the series every single time by making it virtually a non-factor.
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>>161834695
Altair literally said it was only possible maybe one more (she was not even certain one more would have been possible, which is why they could bring basically a character with very low footprint). An OP character would have a stronger effect just like Altair has some very high effect by herself. And there is no guarantee an OP character could do anything to her, the characters are literally being brought to existence with powered borrowed from her in the first place. She could simply instantly deny characters she doesn't believe should be on the script.

>there was.. no foreshadowing
The foreshadowing was on the ECF anime we didn't see, in the same way we didn't see the spin-offs.
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>>161824080
She's not a meme. She's just a fan video character. Not even suggested to be Miku or Black Rock Shooter tier. Regarding the fan art, what exactly IS the fan art? It's tell instead of show, and it makes for a dull and empty experience. Finally, I meant her powers originating from a child that young in a context like that, not a teenager and Internet videos. The way the show introduces her powers is subpar and better suited to a totally different origin.
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>>161834955
>Regarding the fan art, what exactly IS the fan art?
It's shown in episode 12 what it is
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>>161834850
Literally the only thing they mention to get a character to existence is acceptance. If enough people will it, it happens. There is just no reason why not plan ahead and push for one actually good character instead of literally who's.
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>>161834955
She is probably between Miku and BRS tier of popularity inside the show. More popular than the other characters in the crossover. And it was explained well, they showed fanart of her, her original video and even some derivative videos.
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>>161833865
>what the fuck was even in the videos

THEY SHOWED YOU, YOU BLIND FUCK >>161816059

>all of her powers and popularity are as arbitrary as possible

That's the fucking point, they literally tell you several times that she can pick whatever she wants
> ruining the whole "audience is important"
For fucks, they made the point that all of her fanworks are automatically accepted because she has no canon

>The show has done a horrendous job of conveying that
Nah, you have done a horrendous job at paying attention.
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>>161835024
>Literally the only thing they mention to get a character to existence is acceptance.
Altair was literally bringing them to crack reality, and she is the authority in doing it so everything she says has more weight than even Meteora.
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>>161829279
They're both utter trash, but at this point it's true.
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>>161835059
>she is the authority
Except when she is not and other people start to bring their own characters.
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>>161835181
And said character couldn't follow the unrestricted rules you envisioned for reasons that can be explained by what Altair said in the first place.
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>>161835032
If she is, then their telling of that was horrible. Even hyper-generic terms and descriptions should have let the government find her well before ever contacting the creators and creations.

Also, this series has completely failed to entertain the idea that Altair is a fad. What if her power well dries up? There was even a six-month period where the plot froze.
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>>161835212
>said character couldn't follow the unrestricted rules you envisioned for reasons that can be explained by what Altair said in the first place
The explanation was that she didn't have enough "character", something won't be an issue with a well-known creation.
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>>161835050
I mean ALL of the videos. Establish a proper, constant link between the Internet her that gets all the videos and the villainous her who then builds off of those. It would have been great for predicting what she might do next, both for the viewers and for the characters in trying to assess what she might do, thereby creating a better plan for how to battle her. It would also make the audience participation a stronger element in the series, as it would something genuinely shown and not told to us as an after-the-fact excuse for her latest asspull.
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>>161835292
>The explanation was that she didn't have enough "character"
But she did have all of Altair's power, making the only possible counter in the first place. Other characters have the personality but neither the popularity or the actual means to defeat a reality warper.
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>>161834955
From context it's really obvious that she's suggested to be based off of Miku, Black Rock Shooter, or any other internet meme character, especially the fact that her "origin" story an acceptance practically parallels how BRS and other NND "meme" characters sky rocket in popularity and lack any sort of actual concrete personality.
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>>161835268
But it was easy to figure out, and she even bother explaining again in the episode why she won.
>What if her power well dries up?
It didn't in 6 months, so it doesn't matter. By then she would have already won.
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>>161835311
>I mean ALL of the videos.
She has thousands of videos. There were 90+ holopsicon moves before the time skip. By the definition of the character they couldn't show everything since she has much more content than any show with a small number of creators like the show itself. And even if they prepared one counter for each move somehow, she would still get videos between the last airing episode and the ECF final battle.
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>>161835347
Anon, Altair was so much of a literally who that none of the creators even knew who the hell she was. She never had much popularity. She is not some sort of Goku.
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>>161835474
Literally only Souta and the fat guy saw Altair, and both figured out who she was in less than a week.
They've shown her popularity again in this episode.
>>161828704
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can someone make a comparison pic of old and new Altair? they look very similar IMO.
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>>161835474
I think that was just a commentary on how out of touch creators are with general fan culture.
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>>161835474
>Anon, Altair was so much of a literally who that none of the creators even knew who the hell she was. She never had much popularity. She is not some sort of Goku.
just one of the many plot hole.
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>>161835311
What part of she turns whatever thing in fanworks into power don't you understand? It's completely unpredictable because you can't know what she'll pick nor how she will use it.
And it's not just videos, it's any fanwork.
See, this is her just being used as a chair and backpack. She can turn it into a power, but can you tell me what power?
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>>161835733
I need my own Altair backpack.
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