Only good thing about her is her tits and bloodline.
She was pretty poorly written and relied on retcons to become relevant.
Best girl is obviously her little sister Himawari.
Tsunade was best girl but she turns into a non-character shortly after becoming Hokage. Sakura's only bearable when neither Naruto or Sasuke are there but that neither happens too often nor is it exclusive to her, the series in general got better when Naruto or Sasuke aren't around. Alien bitch at the end came out of fucking nowhere. Rest of the chicks are largely irrelevant for most of the story.
Tenten was my personal favorite but I always thought Hinata was the best pairing for Naruto.
>tfw Anko got fat as fuck in the future
>Sakura would be hotter if she was Hinata
I find most of the naruto characters in general to be shit, so I don't know how that makes one a tumblerina.
Porn does wonders for characters. All the potential hotness amplified without the shitty baggage they carry. It also helps that sometimes they act out of character for the sake of random sex, which actually improves them, or funny enough they get in some fap material more development than they get in >300 long episodes shows.
Sakura is for pump and dump
Hinata is for hand holding, love filled sex with the intent of having kids
Hinata is so pure it mindbroke Nanashi into drawing vanilla
>Virtuous reserved conservative girl is best girl and wins in the end while dumb abrasive spoiled brat princess bitch get's what she deserves with "yeah sorry"
Tumblr landwhales and pathetic numales are STILL fucking assblasted over it even now
Reminder that Hinata was always best girl
also this the point when Naruto falls for her
God those doujins were so good.
Why did she like him at all? For a good chunk of the childhood arc he was sakurasexual and in his teen years he was sasukesexual, and that must be a huge lady boner killer and while my memory is rusty, I do remember that since she was introduced she always had a crush on him before any encouraging she got from him.
The movie retconned it to him saving her from some bullies making fun of her for her eyes, but more importantly, she saw him as someone who was able to keep going despite having absolutely nothing and nobody, which was inspiration she desperately needed due to her own family treating her like a failure and openly stating they wouldn't care if she died.
the time she saved her from the bullies, (even tho he got his ass kicked) she started getting encouraged by him
Naruto was a loser but never gave up, Hinata family (Hiashi and Negi) regarded her as a failure
Thanks to that she was able to take strength from seeing him fail and get up again and always smile despite all the shit he took from the villagers
It helps that if you can see past his loud brash personality naruto was actually a pretty cute kid (considering his parents were Pretty boy Minato and Hot red head Kushina)
go re-read the pain confession again
plus Hiashi saw that they would end together anyway
>Hinata with Sakura's personality
this is the only other decent couple of the series
>only has 2 kids
She must have been boring in bed.
My personal favorite is Temari, but if someone says the like Hinata the best I have nothing against that other than subjective preferences. She did get crazy hot though.
>having the same personality as Sakura
Not even close. RTN Hinata wouldn't let Menma trash talk and abandon her for like a decade, for starters.
No, Sakura should have gotten swole.
actually, that's just the manga making him look cute. kishi painted/drew a picture of both naruto and sasuke towards the end of the manga and naruto looks kinda ugly.
Kek. It's always the tumblrfatties who get angry about girls who represent everything they are not and will never be.
I just wish she and Shikamaru had a scene together either before or during the war.
That is a reasonable thing to want.
It really is a shame that Kishimoto's writing ability doesn't come close to his vast ability to create amazing character designs.
No lewds only cutes.
Sakura learning to use Tsunade's enhanced strength technique on her legs to let her jump around the battlefield like a little pink Hulk would have been worlds cooler than getting a regen ability.
She's just meh, but she got with the wrong guy though.
Hinata's fanbase is quite pathetic though.
Overall, Naruto girls are really shit though (even by shonen standards)
>and that must be a huge lady boner killer
Attraction is fucking weird but generally the more disinterested you are in a person the more they cling to you. Especially for girls because they aren't used to a guy just brushing them off and not bending over to acknowledge their finer points.
>generally the more disinterested you are in a person the more they cling to you.
>uses though in every sentence
>absolute shit taste in general
>uses reddit spacing
You need to fuck off from /a/ until you learn how type like a proper human being who's not a nigger with shit taste.
Kiba sees Hinata as a little sister. Obvious if you're not shipping her off out of butthurt.
I want more slice of life episodes in Boruto. I just want one that shows Naruto and Hinata being a couple
and seeing Hinata break her ramen record
We only get that if the idiots in Shounen Jump fucking calm down and not force this series into becoming just a sequel.
People Initially liked Boruto because the Ghost Arc provided something different from the Uchihawank that Kishimoto excreted.
We can only hope that they don't fuck it up I guess. I definitely want to see expansions on relationships like Naruto and Hinata, Shika and Temari, Boruto and Sarada, and Metal Lee in general.
>Still a better relationship
Other than being on the same team and Hinata being polite to him like with anyone else, Hinata has no relationship with Kiba. She actually interacts far more with naruto on panel, so this is a retarded point to make. Also, Kiba is a garbage player B Nurudo and you have to be retarded to actually think he deserves better than stinky cat lady, and even her doesn't want to marry that bum.
I saw it coming too (because the pandering became especially pervasive especially by SP).
But that doesn't make it good.
Even Naruto the Last movie shows how distant Naruto and Hinata were from a relationship standpoint. Needed a genjutsu to make Naruto realise Hinata's feelings LMAO.
>But that doesn't make it good.
It's good regardless.
>Even Naruto the Last movie shows how distant Naruto and Hinata were from a relationship standpoint. Needed a genjutsu to make Naruto realise Hinata's feelings LMAO.
Naruto's retarded, what else is new? It's still good.
Why do you type like a total faggot? It's one thing to have shit taste and being butty-blasted about your literal who furfag not deserving even a whiff from a high-class girl, but this reddit spacing is completely unnecessary.
Nah anon is right it was mostly one sided from Hinatas part. I guess if you cut off a lot of the filler and only include those with Hinata trying to impress Naruto it works to an extent. Lets be honest though Narutos thich headedness and stupidity kind of made it hard to believe he would take his friendship with Hinata very seriously.
I never watched shippuden the whole way but I imagine its only until the pain arc that she has to confess it. Again I think its more of an issue in the way Naruto is written as a character.
Reminder: this has never been refuted and evidence will not be posted to the contrary.
So far Chouchou is my favorite of the kids.
>Naruto's retarded, what else is new? It's still good
Yet, he knew instantly that Sakura was full of shit with her feelings during her confession, yet is "retared" when it comes to Hinata's feelings.
Furthermore, Naruto is supposed to be immune to Genjutsu according to the manga, the movie retcons this too.
wew, so angry lol
NaruHina tards don't disappoint
Whats Hilter gaara going to do if his adopted daughter Yodo is really a Kara member ?
If I remember right Kishimoto was interviewed about their relationship ages ago and he said something along the lines of "it made him embarrassed to write romance shit so most of the time he avoided it" which is why The Last probably happened. It could have been done a lot better but it's due to the writers own failings in being able to express it properly, as for what's in the manga Hinata was the only girl of his age that he had any kind of serious relationship with even if it was friendly most of the time. The only other girl was Sakura and he spent most of the time terrified of her.
>Yet, he knew instantly that Sakura was full of shit with her feelings during her confession, yet is "retared" when it comes to Hinata's feelings.
He knew Hinata was honest, he just didn't understand the implications of what that meant.
>Furthermore, Naruto is supposed to be immune to Genjutsu according to the manga, the movie retcons this too.
Kurama must have been caught simultaneously.
I actually don't care about pairings, but you do type like a nigger hooked on coke and that's a nuisance. Also Kiba is garbage (imagine liking an even shittier Naruto) and that's something I actually believe, now go yiff in hell.
The type of 4th wall references and meta jokes I am talking about are like a character jumping through a dimension-portal to arrive in our universe, interacting with the show's staff, characters acknowledging that they are characters in a story, stuff like that. Do you like those types of jokes, anon?
i can't remember if he did this in canon, but even asuma made sure to shit on sakura with his last words
Yeah that makes sense I think part 1 did an ok job if it wasnt for all the needless filler in between but I think Shippuden definitely should have had Naruto interact with her even if it was just a casual meeting so they could talk about personal things. I was a little disappointed Hinata kept her distance for the majority of the time and Naruto didnt want to get close either. I agree though it definitely looked like Kishi was avoiding that kind of contact.
Still compared to Sakura Hinata saw through Naruto since he was a child and at least on her part I could see that connection.
Not saying that nalt is any kind of sophisticated high-art geared to mature anime connoisseurs such as yourself, but you only have to take a look at the catalog to realize the irony of your post.
But does that really work in a years basis? She has been crushing on a dude who showed pretty much zero interest in her besides being acquaintances and who had the hots for another girls and later was borderline obsessed with redeeming a dude he was friends with for just a few months. And that shit has been going on for their entire childhood and most of their teenagerhood.
That paired with how she's weak willed and I dunno how that could've survived for so many years unless hinata was mentally ill and had a unhealthy dependence on nardo so strong that she could've killed herself if weren't because she clinged to his shadow to keep going on regardless if he liked other people already.
In that case, that was less love and more a sick obsession
we don't wanna trigger the autistic non canon fags or the pinkshitfags anon. We'll post more Hawawawas when she returns proper after gaiden is over next week
sumire is coolest girl cause of the tobi parallel but Goth loli is Based
>That paired with how she's weak willed
But she's not weak willed. That's literally the point of her fight in the chuunin exams. She stops being weak willed and starts trying. her best.
>In that case, that was less love and more a sick obsession
Nah, it's pure love.
She's the best among all of them sure.
The best for Naruto? From what Kushina told Naruto it was Sakura. I feel like Kishimoto was steering towards making Sakura end up with Naruto. Things is, he thought Hinata deserved to end up with Naruto in the end. Kishimoto's wife even wanted Naruto to end up with Sakura but it seems like he liked Hinata so much that he didn't give a fuck.
>From what Kushina told Naruto it was Sakura
This is wrong, though. Kushina told him to find a woman like her, but she didn't mean superficially; i.e. loud and violent. She meant what any mother would want for her son: he should find someone who honestly loves him, who picks him up out of despair, and who puts her life on the line for him without hesitation.
weak willed Goes against Pain and Momo to protect the one she loves. Sakura's weak willed cause she was shitting her self when Kaguya walked by then sucker punched her
I don't think it's love to stalk your loved one everytime you can. She's only a few steps away from being one of those creepy weirdos that hides behind corners and electricity poles looking at him and have their entire rooms covered with photos
naruto's whole thing was being an empath so i thought it was silly he was so dense in the movie. like even as a kid he was better at reading situations
still liked the movie though. wish the moon fight had better choreography
>but I think Shippuden definitely should have had Naruto interact with her even if it was just a casual meeting so they could talk about personal things
Yeah being an adaptation of the manga it could have really expanded on a lot of things the manga developed and a few Naruhina eps would have been great. It's also a crime that the other teams got completely ignored I think seeing Hinata's team on a mission or Guy's team would have made great tv. Hopefully Boruto doesn't make the same mistakes.
>sumire is coolest girl cause of the tobi parallel
Well fuck I feel like an idiot for not getting the joke now.
Yeah could have been done better but I still think it's an enjoyable enough film although I lower my expectations when it comes to anything Jump related.
It may look like an obsession but I think she sees Naruto as a role model and draws much oh her will from his own. He was pretty much the one that stood up for her during the exams.
Are you some kind of speedreader? I don't find her particularly amusing, but through the entirety of part two, almost every scene she's in has her being determined and brave. In fact, what many people like about her is that she's a very straightforward character in terms of motivation and intent.
That's pretty much the book definition of emotional dependence. Shit's simply not normal. Even the moments where she kind of was being cool were due being driven by her obsession with naruto
I don't know how big Hulu is in the Japan market but the fact that I don't see One Piece or DB Super makes it clear that it's not big factor for viewership.
What was previously posted is still filler.
This just shows Kiba acknowledged Hinata's obsession with Naruto. Doesn't really mean anything more for Naruto and Hinata's relationship other than that.
But, even this panel shows that Kiba understood Hinata's feelings better that Naruto. NaruHina was forced for Hinata's sake. That's all to it.
lol, calm down anon. Ignoring your petty Kiba hatred, Kiba isn't a narcissistic as Naruto and as retarded when it comes to romance. He clearly understood Hinata better than Naruto and if she had woken up and realised that Kiba is (more or less) the same as Naruto, she would have just moved on to him instead.
KibaHina was always better. srry I made you mad
>But, even this panel shows that Kiba understood Hinata's feelings better that Naruto. NaruHina was forced for Hinata's sake. That's all to it.
But it wasn't, this entire thread has shown you why that's not true.
No they haven't lol. No one has proven that NaruHina wasn't one-sided in Hinata's favor throughout the manga.
The fact that he needed a genjutsu to get guilt tripped into returning Hinata's feelings is more than enough proof that the relationship was one-sided throughout the story.
The Kushina personality type will probably not repeat with Boruto. He fundementally has his mother's submissive nature, as shown in the Himawari short. Bort's submissive nature will likely be his downfall when dealing with Momo and the harsh fate the Jougan will give him
This is true. If you look at any of Kishi's canon pairings, it's composed of a yin and yang type of balance, while Narusaku would have been a clash of two yangs. Also, Naruto was stated to take after his mom in both looks and personality. He is far more like Kushina than Sakura, so that parallel has always been pretty shallow.
>Kiba isn't a narcissistic as Naruto
lies about being a hokage candidate, can't tell if he believes that or not. claims he's naruto's rival at some point during the war when the power gap between them is way too ridiculous for that to be true unless kiba was completely delusional. not even just the power gap, the fact that they barely hung out or knew each other
>This just shows Kiba acknowledged Hinata's obsession with Naruto. Doesn't really mean anything more for Naruto and Hinata's relationship other than that.
It means he is actively shipping NaruHina. Would not be a thing if he wanted her himself.
>No they haven't lol. No one has proven that NaruHina wasn't one-sided in Hinata's favor throughout the manga.
Also read the manga.
>The fact that he needed a genjutsu to get guilt tripped into returning Hinata's feelings is more than enough proof that the relationship was one-sided throughout the story.
But he wasn't guilt tripped. You're just objectively wrong.
Not him but, it seemed to work out perfectly fine. I think a lot of what kept Hinata from acting on her feelings is what her father would think. I mean it's only the anime but even when she's about to marry Naruto she still looks at her father for approval. The Hyuga clan is pretty fucking weird.
Not even best redhead
There's a difference between being inspired and being obsessed.
A lot of the plot relevant things hinata did were driven due her hard on for naruto. She doesn't reach the point of being a satellite character that only exist to orbit around a character, but she's dangerously close to it.
And I honestly don't really have examples of other shonen where characters were that attached to the existence of another character besides videogames like persona where entire groups of characters only exist to talk about how awesome the main character is and why he's THE SHIT everybody aspires to be like
>The fact that he needed a genjutsu to get guilt tripped into returning Hinata's feelings
What the hell are you talking about? the genjutsu didn't guilt-trip Naruto into anything. First of all, there was nothing about her memories that forced him into anything, none of the characters init even suggested he had to do anything about it, and he could have simply said to her that he was thankful but not interested. Instead of that, he starts acting coy once he realizes where she's coming from and decides to confess to her out of his own volition. I can see why saying it took an external exposition plot device to make him aware of something that obvious is bad writing, but saying the genjutsu or any other character coerced Naruto into anything is completely false.
>masquerades as him to compliment her forehead and make her daydream a reality, first positive interaction
>saves her from the sand coffin, she thinks it's sasuke
>saves her from getting murdered by a limbo clone, she's more preoccupied with the fact that sasuke didn't rescue her
naruto really did his best on accident to make sure sakura's obsession with sasuke lasted throughout the years
but she's cute
I don't think either Salad or Sumire will fill the role of the energetic loud one. You are assuming that Boruto will be in a romantic relationship with someone, which may not happen because of Boruto's terrible fate. I personally think Boruto will end up alone, with Salad hating him and Sumire either dead or being scared around him
I think Naruto spent so much time alone that he couldn't distinguish friendship from love. I mean, there's even that really fucked up scene as a teenager where Naruto plays cards with his own shadow clones because nobody comes to visit him in his little apartment. It's not at all that surprising that he has gaps in his social acuity because he spent so much time alone from the point of being a small child.
naruto should have amped the amount of handsome boys in his reverse harem move. that naruto region combo where he jacked her dimension? should have been five thousand naked men willing to perform degrading acts. she would have lost very quickly
Rock Lee with Guy, Deku with All Might, Simon with Kamina, almost everyone Naruto, Goku, or Luffy converted altered their lives due to their hard on for the MC. Along with every legacy character ever made.
Having a role model isn't abnormal.
he saw shikamaru and temari together at the beginning of part 2 and the first thing he asked is if they were on a date together
what you say makes sense but the writing still walked him back a few steps to facilitate the movie
I hated the turn this took towards alien shit with a passion. It would have made way more sense from them to go from like, a tengu angle that had fuck all to do with people from other planets.
Or for that matter, combining an alien conspiracy with the goddamn bible for I don't know why.
Considering that Boruto knew of Kawaki's plans to destroy the Shinobi system and did not do anything to stop him before Kawaki enacted them, it is only fitting that Boruto will be alone
The Ultimate Comprehensive Naruto Female Tier Listing
[ELDER GOD TIER]
>Ino Yamanaka (Epilogue)
>Hanabi Hyuuga (Epilogue)
>Anko Mitarashi (Naruto/Shippuden)
>Temari Nara (Shippuden)
>Hinata Hyuuga (Shippuden)
>Mei Terumi (Shippuden)
>Ino Yamanaka (Shippuden)
>Tsunade Senju (Naruto/Shippuden/Epilogue)
>Shizune Kato (Naruto/Shippuden/Epilogue)
>Hinata Hyuuga (Epilogue)
>Kushina Uzumaki (Shippuden)
>Kurotsuchi Kamizuru (Shippuden)
>Temari Nara (Naruto)
>Karui Akimichi (Shippuden/Epilogue)
>Kurenai Yuhi (Naruto/Shippuden/Epilogue)
>Sakura Uchiha (Epilogue)
>Kaguya Otsutsuki (Shippuden)
>Rin Nohara (Shippuden)
>Hana Inuzuka (Naruto/Shippuden)
>Tamaki Uchiha (Shippuden/Epilogue)
>Karin Uzumaki (Epilogue)
>Hinata Hyuuga (Naruto)
>Ino Yamanaka (Naruto)
>Temari Nara (Epilogue)
>Hanabi Hyuuga (Shippuden)
>Sakura Uchiha (Shippuden)
>Yugito Nii (Shippuden)
>Kurotsuchi Kamizuru (Epilogue)
>Tsume Inuzuka (Naruto/Shippuden)
>Karin Uzumaki (Shippuden)
>Yugao Uzuki (Naruto/Shippuden)
>Kin Tsuchi (Naruto)
>Yoshino Nara (Naruto/Shippuden)
>Anko Mitarashi (Epilogue)
>Sakura Uchiha (Naruto)
>Meibuki Haruno (Shippuden)
>when you keikaku so hard you turn bastards into saints
I love the double standards about the different obsessions that the show has.
Naruto obsesses with Sakura? Ha ha, this is just for laughs mah bois.
Sakura Obsesses with Sasuke? What a soul crushing tragic romance! Truly star crossed lovers.
Hinata obsesses with Naruto? D'awww, isn't that the purest and most sincere way of love?
is that actually her last name
True, it's not normal if you want to boil down her psyche and understand what makes her tick. I blame her clan for that though, her role put a burden on her. She wasn't all that different from Yakumo, you can see what happened to her.
Naruto literally called the man responsible for his parents, Jiraiya and multiple character's death the "coolest guy" simply because he empathised with that guy for having similar dream and romantic struggles.
That Trumps anything Kiba has said desu.
Naruto is by far the most self-obsessed character in the series. Always obsessed with what people think of him making them believe "his way" through talk no jutsu.
That's nothing more than a theory, but it is possible.
It can simply be acknowledgement of Hinata's feelings for Naruto.
Even so, Naruto didn't respond, so that tells you about how much he cared about Hinata then
>I think Naruto spent so much time alone that he couldn't distinguish friendship from love
Yet, he understood that Sakura loved Sasuke alot.
he understood Sakura's confession was bs.
yet, he confused Hinata's confession with Friendship.
Nah, doesn't add up.
yeah it turns out context can make superficially similar situations wildly different
like maybe if naruto had let his crush on sakura bleed into his development and start having negative effects on his overall character beyond just facilitating a bigger pissing contest with sasuke, it would be more than comic relief. or if naruto had tried to kill hinata a few times then it would be bad. you can't really equate all three of those things
There was not enough lewds of Hinata. When she won, I expected 15+ new doujinshis; considering it was the end of Naruto and she was prime breeding material, both literally and figuratively.
One Piece for example, gets Boa Hancock featured, for a few months and we're STILL getting doujinshi with her as a feature piece, more than 4 years since her last appearance. I just genuinely want more Hinata lewds and came into this thread to fill this curiosity. Now that my opinion has been made, time to save all the good pics I can nab.
It does in that people who are outsiders for a long time don't understand how people can love them in particular. Sort of how people with social problems don't understand it when people are showing obvious signs of attraction to them. Naruto had very low self-esteem until he defeated Pain. Since he thought most of the village was distrustful, disliked him or outright hated him for a long time.
Plus it could just be the old Japanese trope of "woooo I'm a retard" when somebody they really like actually likes them back, and they're totally ignorant of it.
>expected lots of lewds
>ended up getting some real heart warming content instead
Hinata and her relationship with Naruto are just too pure.
black zetsu was an even bigger shitter than obito, and obito had just gotten through with saving kakashi's life and helping them not instantly die during the spacetime shenanigans. it's not just naruto overly willing to forgive obito. kakashi and rin's slutty thirteen year old ghost do as well
if naruto can forgive the demon fox in his stomach he can literally forgive anyone.
if suna can elect to their highest office the man who terrorized and murdered their citizens for years then yeah, ninjas are strangely forgiving and it's kind of stupid. these contrivances are not a thing unique to naruto the character
I can equate them because they all started the same way, innocent childhood crushes.
But at the very moment they were introduced the show already showed an heavy bias about how the viewer should see them, like how since the beginning it was always treated comically any attempt naruto had to get closer to sakura, how they showed the sakura/sasuke as something more serious with a wall that had to be overcome between them, and how it portrayed hinata's crush on naruto as something innocent and even cute.
It wasn't even something develop through the entire show, it was pretty much the same shit since the show began, it simply scaled to greater heights in some cases while in other cases it pretty much disappeared to be replaced by another brand of obsessions like nardo ditching all other social situations in favor of an unhealthy obsession to bring back sasuke.
Sakura's obsession gets shit on because Sasuke's tried to kill her and generally treats her like shit. Naruto had a crush on a girl he knew nothing about that typically gets played for slapstick. Finding out that she found him annoying was some mind altering epiphany for him.
that they start the same way does not mean they develop the same way, even from the beginning. you can't call them all equal and imply they're the same to the point a double standard was implied just because they shared a common start. you can draw the comparison, that does not mean equivalency.
Im pretty sure a lot of these things can be explained with three things.
3.Writing purposefully making these things running gags.
In real life a normal 12 year old kid would know if a girl likes him/her or not.
Naruto is just written to be this dense and dullwitted clueless kid for the majority of part 1 and he remains this way throughout part 2 until he goes through more trials.
At that age you know it, because you're told. Maybe not in Japan, but in a lot of the west even women will straight up tell you. The whole "confess your feelings thing" is treated with a lot more impact in Japan than it is anywhere else; I'm guessing because they have a greater fear of rejection since they're much more "one is part of a whole" than most of western culture. It's more of a cultural thing than anything to do with shonen.
But they dont develop, that's the problem. Except for naruto the king of noticing with others what he doesn't notice for himself who eventually gets the memo about sakura, little is done with the other crushes besides being amplified as the dick becomes even more of a dick, the dandere becomes a bit more social and that's all.
We don't get genuine open the heart moments or developing relationships through the story. Any change in the dynamics happens due abrupt and sudden events instead of being worked out little by little, like Sasuke becoming a colossal tool from one day to the other or the genjutsu incident with naruto and hinata. And the sakura scenario is even worse because she ends up with sasuke in boruto just because the plot says so
Sure, it is just a shonen and shonen authors rarely can do relationship development right, but one would expect him to at least try.
I dunno if a girl was always acting a certain way like Hinata does around Naruto I would assume something's up if she's only doing that around him. Only one answer exists. Im pretty sure once you hit 15 years you should be able to read people's body language unless they're very good at hiding what they feel. Different people react differently around their crushes.
I used to do that all the time when I found 4chan back in 2009 dude. Believe it or not, people used to give you shit on here for making the text too long left-to-right. Maybe they came to /a/ that long ago and never left.
OK, which of you fucker did this
Like I said Narutos romance isnt well written and if Kishi himself admitted he wanted to avoid these aspects in relationships then it makes sense. You dont expect 12 year olds to be doing anything more than giggling or being shy around people they like but you sure as hell expect the writers to step it up as these characters get older.
I never suggested that Alternative. All I said is that Kiba was more aware of Hinata feelings than Naruto.
If Hinata had simply realised that she already had a "Naruto" in her team who already understands her feelings, it would've led to healthier and more realistic development (instead of freaking genjutsu on the moon lol).
she never watched kiba be a huge scrublord hated by everyone still trying to do shit. he wasn't an underdog or a pariah. kiba was already considered a close combat specialist by the time he reached chunin exams. there is literally nothing inspirational about kiba's story
being superficially similar in attitude doesn't mean he's an acceptable substitute
They read doujins and think that somehow means it's canon. Which somehow applies to her and no other character. Since bias is this narnia word to them and being right has nothing to do with the legitimate information they've been presented.
Everyone that paid attention was aware of her feelings. Shino, Sakura and every other girl, and some of the adults that realized this eventually.
Naruto being an idiot was part of the recurring gag.
You're fucking dim. Kiba's similarities to Naruto were shallow. The reason Hinata liked Naruto in the first place was because he inspired her with his proud failure attitude and she related to him on a personal level. Not because he was a loud, abrasive autist like Kiba.
Well, he sure did a damn good job avoiding that, by introducing the most recurring romances in the very first story arc.
Dude simply shouldn't have done that if he doesn't know shit about how to write a believable development, specially with planned time skips that pretty much forced a development of dynamics between the kids who are now teenagers and later adults. And he surely had time skips as part of the endgame in mind, or else the whole driving force of naruto becoming the hokage would mean nothing if it were stuck to the childhood era.
>back in 2009 dude
You're still a newfag then. Also, you're spacing for no reason while also keeping the text too long from left to right, so you're wrong no matter how you slice it. Regarding your point about relationships being static, I think you're completely wrong, none of this relationships were alike outside of the very broad strokes you mentioned, and some sis get drastically worse over time, to the point of being unrecognizable, and I'm talking specifically about Sasuke's relationship with his teammates.
Kiba isn't a "Naruto" at all. You don't understand either character.
How is naruto any inspiring for hinata when he's pretty much a prodigy who learns jutsus, some even forbidden or master level, in little to no time and has monster chakra reserves? He spent very little time being an underdog as he quickly become one of the strongest rookies and only kept becoming even more of an overpowered monster less due hard work and effort, that was Lee's gimmick, and more due how he won the super power lottery.
>How is naruto any inspiring for hinata when he's pretty much a prodigy who learns jutsus, some even forbidden or master level, in little to no time and has monster chakra reserves?
That only happened after she was inspired by him. Did you even read the manga?
He was a lot like Naruto when you involved his puppy. The guy would die for his dog. I remember that episode when Akamaru got rabies and was going to rip him to pieces and Kiba refused to give up on him he was just standing there waiting for Akamaru to finish him off by ripping his head off.
remember that time naruto tricked kiba into punching his dog in the throat? that was alright
I know, but the point is that he quickly outgrows the flaws and virtues that hinata admired.
Or would you still keep admiring some guy who the first few months you knew him was underperforming, but then it is revealed he has the chad genes and becomes a beast that excels in many things just because he is a gifted kid with unfair advantages even between kids with unfair bloodline powers, hard work and effort be damned?
Narutos never give up motto and devotion for Sasuke doesnt ring any bells? Heck Id say he was more in love with the guy he kissed first than he ever was with Hinata even after she made her confession before supposedly dying.
Naruto was never really a loser in the genetic lottery like the series implied at first. He just didn't have anybody to teach him. It doesn't change the fact he still worked hard at first and fought for acceptance.
I can't tell if this post is serious or not.
That's because from an in-universe character's perspective Naruto was a loser pariah for the vast majority of his life until the story started proper, while all the amazing things he achieved started happening from around his the time he was twelve, then disappeared from the village fro years, only to actually be recognized as a hero once he turned sixteen.
kurenai was really hot. i thought asian women were supposed to age gracefully, why does she looks so gross now
no anon it is not the same
he was willing to murder-suicide sasuke, not just stand there and let sasuke kill him out of blind faith that sasuke would stop
>I know, but the point is that he quickly outgrows the flaws and virtues that hinata admired.
Thereby proving Hinata's outlook that you can outgrow your failures completely correct.
>Or would you still keep admiring some guy who the first few months you knew him was underperforming
It was years.
>but then it is revealed he has the chad genes and becomes a beast that excels in many things just because he is a gifted kid with unfair advantages even between kids with unfair bloodline powers, hard work and effort be damned?
Naruto did work hard. Jesus, just fucking stop.
>Narutos never give up motto and devotion for Sasuke doesnt ring any bells?
But Kiba doesn't have that.
>Heck Id say he was more in love with the guy he kissed first than he ever was with Hinata even after she made her confession before supposedly dying.
Out the window you go. Everybody has "chad genes" or else you wouldn't exist. They got of their ass and fucked somebody rather than expecting another slug to crawl towards them.
The worst relationship in the entire series, but it was pretty common for characters to have an obsession with Sasuke that self-destructive.
lol who needs sage shit powers when you have the mighty KAMUI?
>not just stand there and let sasuke kill him out of blind faith that sasuke would stop
although admittedly he nearly did that once, the first chidori through the chest. but he got his shit together at the last second and deflected it into his shoulder
remember when sage mode training started and they showed a literal mountain of people that died tried to learn it. then naruto was handicapped again by kurama since he couldn't fuse with old frogs just like it fucked up his control as a kid. the power is risky
admittedly it's the same kind of risk as when goku goes 'whoa kaioken is gonna make me explode' like of course it won't but hey
let's be fair here kiba doesn't fuck his dog, he tries to fuck cute cat girls
There are a few ocassions that he does though. He cant bring himself to kill sasuke, he never could. The first fight hes almost dead until Kyuubi saves him by diverting the chidori, second time he almost got stabbed and didnt do anything. Third time and final time hes holding back again. WTF?
>How is naruto any inspiring for hinata when he's pretty much a prodigy who learns jutsus, some even forbidden or master level, in little to no time and has monster chakra reserves?
Naruto may be a god now but he had to work his ass off for every last scrap of it and even risked his life as a ninja or his life itself on more than one occasion to get there. He inherited none of his fathers natural talent and being a reincarnation was about his destiny of conflict, not ability which again he "inherited" nothing. The only thing he did get was large chakra and that was because he's an Uzumaki.
I'm pretty tired of seeing casuals undervalue his entire arc because of the end of the manga.
It wasn't years. The moment Naruto was actually given the chance to learn under a master he blossomed into a powerful ninja whose only "flaw" was that he wasted chakra, which didn't really affect him much due his gimmick about having a shitton of chakra, and he eventuall fixes that issue even. All he needed to stop being the problem kid was for somebody to give him a chance, and once the chance was given, he was nothing sort of being a ninja prodigy that easily remained on par with the other guy who was genuinely being hyped as a prodigy and a genius.
And he did work for his powers, but he had to make a lot less effort than others, and the mass shadow clone jutsu was one hell of a cheat as he could practise in a day what people practises in weeks.
Reminder that nardo still has his sage of six paths powers.
Don't listen to nardo downplayers.
Well, she even tells Kiba "everyone should aspire to be hokage" when he makes the ridiculous claim that he'll be it.
Now, I love the Kiba character because it's dog-centric and I love dogs. Same thing with Kakashi and that dog team he summons. Kiba is still a hopeless slackass that seems to spend most of his time fucking about the village as an adult.
Looking at that manga page, you can literally apply that to Kiba and his self-confidence in himself.
Plus now, since Naruto is in fact a false Underdog, It would make more sense for Hinata to resonate more with Kiba. He's actually the "proud failure" type and has to work harder (unlike Naruto who's a gifted and privileged child of prophecy)
or as this anon already explained >>161830070
no, i mean six paths senjutsu. izanagi and kotoamatsukami are the ones that benefit from hashirama's dna, getting increased length and decreased cooldown respectively
wasn't that sun retconned out in the tankobon?
anyways of course he still has most of the powers he got in endgame. he needed to commune with the tailed beasts to use their unique powers like wisdom wolf decay and kaikiri musou, he just doesn't bother them. he's still the meeting place, so logically he could whenever, but he just prefers partnering with kurama and not bothering the other guys relaxing at home
>It wasn't years.
It was. You're objectively wrong.
>And he did work for his powers, but he had to make a lot less effort than others
Only two other people in the manga that we know of had to wrestle an ancient weapon of mass destruction. Kurama was a huge bonus but also a massive hindrance.
Hinata is so cute.
>that manga slide
It's literally something that sometimes happens in MMA fights and the referees have to clear it up and restart the fight. Some assholes just start before the referee declares it.
vanilla six paths sage mode is something he's always got, the no-eyeshadow cross thing. he hasn't used it since literally the first time he got the mode, when he tossed the lava ball at madara. any mode with those eyes, regardless of coloration or chakra cloak appearance, is six paths sage mode
six paths sage mode with the cloak made up of chakra from all the tailed beasts makes him a fake ten tails jinchuuriki, gives him the rinnegan pattern on the back of the jacket. six paths sage mode with only kurama results in the form seen in gaiden and the bort movie. or at least that's how i understand it until they release a proper bort guidebook
>Looking at that manga page, you can literally apply that to Kiba and his self-confidence in himself.
You're delusional. Kiba never had self-confidence issues and he was never shown to be a proud failure type or a hard worker.
it wasn't enough of a boost to remove the strain of using the powers, but yeah he does claim it made him more powerful than nagato with it
It's based upon pure consumer demand in Japan. See, those doujins aren't "technically" legal and they're mostly exchanged at these sort of trade shows in a district of Tokyo (they happen in Osaka and Sapporo too). They get scanned, and translated because you can and whatever.
>>expected lots of lewds
>>ended up getting some real heart warming content instead
This kinda happened to me expecting some doujin of Hinata and Boruto, i thought milf Hinata would get tons of them, but all i got was cute pics of Hinata as a good mother
admittedly they should probably be chiming in now and again to juice naruto up as a matter of courtesy since just by existing he's a deterrent from the alien invaders, letting them have their uniterrupted life in the forest or ocean or whatever. hagoromo pretty much admits that the nine tails was the only part of the ten tails that actualy mattered and bee was only in danger in the bort movie because momo and kinshiki probably entered the dimension right by kumo
I could see Hiashi disowning her when it was implied Hanabi straight up beat Hinata in a duel, but they retcon it into Hinata not being able to strike a finishing blow when Hanabi was immensely open.
Look at this shit Hanabi overextended and was wide open.
It's like you not even capable of processing character traits. Naruto confesses to Hinata (and no one else) that the bravado mask he puts on is because he basically feels powerless and weak deep down. By comparison, Kiba claims he will become Hokage like a stupid jackass while having absolute confidence in his reduced abilities. They're not alike at all other than being loud and obnoxious kids that dreamed of being Hokage. Nobody goes out of his way to put Kiba down or regard him as a monster, he just happens to be an actual loser. Man, no wonder you like Kiba, you're every bit as autistic and retarded as he is.
That's bullshit; Hanabi was just strong.
>Powerless and weak
>The dude who consistently stays on the same level as the uchiha's boy genius the moment he goes to the ninja school.
Sounds like another case of show, not just say. Unless he said it during their early childhood when they were just kids with little to no training
I think the difference goes beyond having confidence in your abilities. Hanabis character was more combative than Hinata who didn't want to fight deep down. She's better off defending her loved ones than looking to bring someone down in combat for any other reason like competition.
We never even see the actual combat between Hinata and Hanabi in canon. We were just told Hanabi was stronger to an unspecified degree when they were small children, and that Hiashi deems her more worthy of being heiress and you're supposed to take his word for it. Aside from that, anything from Hinata being currently stronger than Hanabi to Hanabi being the strongest Hyuuga ever is possible, given that we don't know any detail about where they stand presently.
Hanabi is the Renly of Naruto. Fuck lines of succession.
>being better than any Naruto/Boruto girl
She can't even surpass her mom, she has no place in the best girl rankings, unless you mean the worst girl rankings. She is pretty high there.
Naruto was always below Sasuke until he started training with Jiraiya. Big difference since both were chemically compatible Naruto learned to use his own powers better. Fast forward into Shippuden hes outclassed by Sasuke again until bullshit happens but then again the story was shit by the end.
Did you even read the manga? It happened right before Naruto's fight with Neji, and by that point there were genin legitimately stronger than both Naruto and Sasuke, and Naruto just witnessed a ninja near his age putting Kakashi in the spot in the Zabuza arc. That was Naruto having genuine and understandable doubts.
I like how everyone just pairs those two even though I am pretty sure they have never shared a page or screen.
That second panel is such crap, we know Kakashi has absolutely no idea if that's true or not. It was just his conjecture, and not true at all or else it just means Naruto is even more absurdly talented than he appears.
>Implying that Hagoromo can do anything against his superior pureblood alien clansmen
I mean, the seals are going to help, but at that point the seals' effect on their receivers is going to be like urinating in an ocean of urine
nurutu's reasonably talented but i've been hearing good things about this bort guy
From the very first chapter imo, you can tell Naruto was highly gifted from the fact that he mastered the forbidden Shadow clone technique in minutes and produced a very large amount of it. Naruto naturally had high amounts of Stamina, much more than Kiba.
Naruto was always an over-performer from birth, just a late bloomer. He's a false underdog.
Again. You can literally apply that to guys like Kiba and his unwavering spirit (coupled with high Self-confidence). Remember Naruto and Kiba were both part of the deadlast group. Kiba wasn't particularly popular or highly respected in the village either (he just wasn't as unpopular as Naruto, that's the only difference but very miniscule).
Kiba is a proud failure type, he never let losses bring his moral down.
Most (if not all) of the cast were hard workers but people only want to say that Naruto worked harder than most because he got more training panel time and a shit ton of power-ups.
Lee was an actual underdog, unlike Naruto.
Very little similarities other than perhaps optimism.
Yeah a lot of fights were won because the nine tails helped him and the show was aware of this because even the Kyuubi reminded Naruto that he couldnt do anything without his help.
Yes, but we never see Hinata and Hanabi fight. The specifics of Hiashi reaching that conclusion are only in anime filler. Hiashi is supposed to be a credible source because he had to reason to lie, but that's about it. We don't really know anything about who was stronger during part II, or even who's stronger now.
I still want a Hinata & Boruto doujin, i mean father working overtime and tired all the time, rebellious son and cute giant breat mild, these doujin should be writing themselves
But Kayuga was absolute shit. She is basically a weak civilian. The Ootsusukis of the invaison are most likely going to be veteran soldiers, and such a single one is going to be much harder for the dumb Sage to contain
I'm still appalled this guy did not only one but two NH doujins and fucking vanilla.
She had the full power of the fruit though. So even if the other ayys are harder to beat because they actually know how to fight, they'll never have more than a fraction of her power unless they have also eaten a fruit.
I hate Kishimoto, he not only destroyed the wonderful relationship, NaruSaku, he built through the whole manga, we also have to sit and watch a fucking story about the Naruhina child. At least we can think that Madara won and this is Hinata version of reality.
But he didnt master the jutsu you're wrong about that. Its forbidden because a user can kill himself if he doesnt know how to control his chakra. Naruto had poor chakra control at the beginning. I agree he was above Lee but just about every genin was better than him. The guy had to eat dirt before he could get some wins.
>Kek even Lee would be a better Naruto than Kiba
That's not the point you retard. Before Naruto became a genin and got to have a sensei and teammates, he was an actual outcast disliked by pretty much everyone except a handful of people who couldn't even pass the academy basic ninjutsu test, but was completely determined to prove people wrong about him. He's literally nothing like a loudmouth and overconfident scrub like Kiba.
>Yeah Kiba can be a jackass but he's not a bad guy.
He's not a bad guy. He's just a loser and an imbecile who's nothing like Naruto except for your shallow delusions.
wait but will they animate the AU covers. I mean if they really want to milk it would they go full blown with a cowboy AU, Middle earth AU hell throw in the samurai AU. They did for that one tailed beast cover.
shiiit your gonna make me go into the tensai filler arcs aint cha or was it just regular filler.
ep 430, it's done already. I think it was Bee's tensai dream.
Go fuck yourself, faggot. Naruto and Hinata happening was as plain as the ugliness on your face. The only people who thought that Naruto was going to "win" Sakura are delusional pieces of shits such as yourself who somehow think Sakura is a prize, an inspirational and strong character, when it fact she's just a shallow weak bitch bulldyke who couldn't do anything for herself.
Naruto actually found himself the #1 woman, Hinata; a kind, compassionate, beautiful angel.
Sakura deserves Sasuke, a cold, uncaring man who would rather travel the world chasing shadows and imaginations than to be trapped by a hideous beast who bore him a child he never wanted in the first place.
hey now, that's unfair to sasuke. he's very nice when he's around the people he loves
I would legit want to see an arc of pregnant Sakura traveling with Karin trying to track the fucker down. It was implied in the manga, why else would she be in that hideout, certainly was not traveling with the Sauce.
Ikr he didnt even bother giving his daughter a name. Sakura couldnt think of one either so she said fuk it Im calling you salad after the food that lets me keep myself looking gud.
we only see their backs when they're hanging out in the credits. maybe he's less shitty to her now? maybe wishful thinking
at least before the memetic
he tried to give a real apology while he was delirious from 30+ hours of bleeding out
getting rid of those was a mistake. did SP character designers and ikemoto think they'd be too lewd for a children's product? fucking tsunade existed in the manga for hundreds of chapters and her costume was never redesigned for modesty
Ikemoto is a pedo so of course, he hates tits. SP keeps giving hinata the layered clothes thing. When they get the chance for tits they go for it.
>maybe he's less shitty to her now?
He didn't even kiss her goodbye after literally not seeing her for ten years in the gaiden. It's beyond what even Sasuke's autism can explain. I think Kishi himself can't picture Sasuke being a functional heterosexual male, but he still had to deliver on Sakura's character goal somehow.
I have read that 3 times, the fuck you saying?