I'm not saying he's the absolute best (he's waaaaaaaay up there though) just raising discussion
>>161780808
Cell
Cooler
>>161780906
>Cell
Debatable, they each had different motivations and personalities
>cooler
funny
>>161780915
the next time i post i'll ask who's a better villain than dio, that'll leave very few contenders
>>161780808
Izaya Orihara for interesting motivations. Vector for pure fun.
>>161780808
Orochimaru (not "better", but I think he's pretty cool)
>>161780980
>Vector
this was the only result i found, who is vector
>>161780906
>Cell
He said name a better villain, not a worse one.
>>161780915
It's amazing how he can dress like a gay elf and still look intimidating
>>161780980
>Izaya
No.
>>161781070
Yugioh.
>>161781112
Why not? His motives make so much sense I'm surprised I haven't seen any other anime character like him.
>>161780979
Dio Brando or DIO or the SBR competitor
>>161781318
>steel ball run dio
i love steel ball run to death but dio isn't even close to valentine's league
>>161780951
>Name something better
>Hurr but they have different x
What the fuck you retard.
>>161781111
being ripped as fuck helps
>>161781383
it's called discussion you fucking sperg, sorry it's out of your thinking range since the only thing you know how to do is throw insults and autistically screech
>>161781372
Which Dio from SBR
>>161781651
any of them
All of you are babies. Sit down and learn.
>>161780808
>he's waaaaaaaay up there though
Did you forget how shitty his character was in resurrection f, that all he's done literally nothing since then but become even more gay, andhow badly he jobbed to trunks?
>>161781960
they're ruining him slowly, yeah, but he was great when it was just Z. borderline iconic
All of you should kneel before the Holy Emperor, noisy brats
King Piccolo
Vegeta
>I'm the big bad!
>I'm bigger and still bad!
>My face is even bigger, and I'm still bad!
>I'm small again, but even badder. Wait, why are you gold?
>STATEMENT: I AM BAD. QUERY: WHY ARE YOU GOLD?
>Now I'm gold too, and even badder! Wait, why are you blue?
>>161782341
>kp
justify
>edgy veggie
justify hard
>>161780808
Meruem is a better villain than any in DBZ despite his design being a Cell ripoff.
>>161782112
Vegeta was better. The fight was a lot more intense, Goku wasn't enough to beat him. They had to use Oozaru, Genki Dama, Kienzan and even Yajirobe. They really went all out.
Meanwhile Frieza was just generic a Goku saves the day #384203 fight.
>>161782431
how come
>>161782440
>freiza being a generic goku saves the day
you can't dumb him down THAT harshly. it was a huge turning point for goku/transformations/the series/possibly anime in general
>>161782522
>raditz being a generic goku saves the day
you can't dumb him down THAT harshly. it was a huge turning point for goku/ki blasts/the series/possibly anime in general
>>161782522
Because Meruem has extremely deep motivation based on the conflict between his ant self, and his individualistic, human self. His fight against Netero was also one of the most engaging fights in all of anime. And not only that, the build up to him was fantastic, even the hype just for his royal guards made them seem like the toughest guys in the show, so when Meruem turned up, he was a true threat- not even the protag could beat him, and even Netero had to play dirty.
He may be designed like Cell, but his character depth is far superior.
>>161782622
Except Piccolo killed Raditz. It wasn't a one sided snorefest like Frieza.
>>161780915
Good answer, but I find Freeza more relatable.
>>161782671
>It wasn't a one sided snorefest like Frieza.
Yeah, that was kinda my point
>>161782657
excellent answer, anon, these are the kind of replies i wanted to see when i made this thread
>>161781955
How many chapters of rape was it again?
This guy.
>>161782702
Are you an extremely powerful manlet tyrant in real life?
>>161782431
>>161782792
>Meruem
>villain
>>161782622
mm, good point (but radit'z didn't affect anime in general like freiza)
>>161782866
He redeemed himself after the bomb but he was a villain for the most part. Unless you are just being edgy
>>161782866
how is he not a villain. he most likely would have taken over the world
>>161780906
>Cell
Interesting before becomes Perfect. Has exactly the same personality as movie only villains once he turns Perfect.
>Cooler
Freeza but without anything that made him interesting personality wise.
>>161781111
Nice quads
>>161782961
your take on cell lines up with mine on buu. interesting at first but then he just becomes a perfectcell/generic faggot.
still my favorite character though, love me some fat buuif only they would stop fucking cucking me in super with him
>>161780808
>>161783148
I agree
Is this even a debate? This is retarded. No villian comes close to being as complex and badass as Aizen.
>>161782880
Raditz caused the MC to sacrifice himself for the greater good. Frieza caused the MC to win by getting a sudden Gary Stu power up. If Frieza affected anime in general, it was for the worse.
>>161783196boku no picoimage searching is a thing
>>161783196
Fucking hell anon you could just reverse search. It's from Boku no Pico
>>161780808
Hold my beer.
>>161783199
aizen is p good but he was defeated by something pretty fucking dumb so he gets degraded
better than freiza thoughremembering bleach when it was good is bumming me out, shoulda ended after aizen
>>161783311
Aizen never lost though. It was all apart of the plan.
>>161783311
why
do
you
post
like
this?
>>161782861
delt dis
>>161783364
don't give me that
>>161783373
just feels right
>>161780808
Oh. This thread is just
Hilarious. Tell me more about your supervillian heros.
>>161781955
I wonder how many people you erroneously insult daily with that image? Ah who cares anyhow?
>>161783509
pic related is a better version than Johan.
>>161782281
I can't kneel before you.
You are already dead.
>>161783565
Oh that is hilarious, anon. Please stop I can't take it anymore.
>>161783574
>you are already dead
>whenever i read this i automatically hear it in my head
>OMAE WA MO
>SHINDEIRU
do i have a problem, anons?
>>161780808
Generic titans from the attack on titan series.
>>161783509
>>161783622
PLEASE NO SPOILERS THIS IS THE NEXT THING I'M WATCHING AND I HEAR NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS
>>161782657
Meruem still lacked the charm Freeza had.
Characters like Vegeta who were build up to be a big deal are just part of his army.
The main characters fight desperatly against his underling and all of Freeza's underlings are incredible scared of him.
In the Fight against Goku, Freeza kills his friends 1 by 1 until only Gohan remains.
Goku reaches the legendary SS and they fight on the already dying Planet Namek.
DB should have ended with the Freeza vs Goku fight. Everything after that didn't come even close to the Namek arc.
>>161783718
fuck i really don't want this spoiled, should i abandon thread?
>>161780915
Second worst next to Kars
>>161783628
No. How can you think when you are already dead?
>>161783622But Johan was a disappointment, anon. He wasn't even a monster, he just had mommy issues because he didn't know if his mother chose him or his sister
>>161783758
>an immortal vampire who still exerts influence generations after his death
>a dickhead who got sent into space because he was a dumbass
>>161783718
>>161783747
Don't worry. You're in good hands. I won't ruin the best animu for you
>>161783821
I like DIO but he pales in comparison to other villains in JoJo.
>>161783565
Nah, Johan is much more charismatic
>>161783824
thank you
>>161783859
All major jojo villians were based off of DIO though
>>161783730
>Characters like Vegeta who were build up to be a big deal are just part of his army.
But Dragon Ball is nothing but constant power creep. Characters that are a big deal one minute are shit tier the next.
Meruem was by far more powerful than any character we had seen in Hunter x Hunter. Even when the fight with him and Netero was going on, his guards still presented a significant threat to most of the others in the attack squad. It also helps that the whole Chimera Ant arc represented a significant boost in power for the whole series, so much so that most of the heroes could not match them at all. I legitimately had no idea how they were going to beat Meruem until Netero used the bomb.
The build up for Frieza was good, but not as good as that. And yes, Frieza had a cartoonish charm, but Meruem was a better character overall with complex motivations and personality.
>>161783966
>guy who wants quiet life
>president who wants to "save the world
>gay priest who wants to end the universe or something
>mafia leader just being a mafia leader
>ancient evil who wants to control the world
and dio
>vampire who hates the joestars, wants to kill/absorb them all then take over the world
other than kars, how the fuck are they based off of him?
>>161783966
besides having op time/space powers i'm not sure this is true
>>161782961
What makes Freeza interesting personality wise
>>161784677
he's space napoleon hitler
>>161783199
>>161783311
>>161783364
>Liking "le ebin kekaku man XD"
Reddit is that-a-way >>>
>>161784677
>What makes Freeza interesting personality wise
>>161780808
>just raising discussion
>solo responsible for the ToP which has lead to the destruction of two universes already
>his team is almost entirely made out of villeins who have tried to destroy the world
>doesn't care about his wife or sons
>>161782702
>Freeza more relatable
>>161780808
>>161784909
to be fair only one of the villains on his team is unreformed
he's not a villain just a total selfish dickhead. not quite a hero or anti-hero, but not a villain.
>>161783988
>But Dragon Ball is nothing but constant power creep. Characters that are a big deal one minute are shit tier the next.
Freeza and the Saiyan/Namek Saga was where the really strong powercreep started.
>Meruem was by far more powerful than any character we had seen in Hunter x Hunter.
Same thing can be said about Freeza.
I even disagree with the statement that Meruem was a good villain. He showed too few emotions and was too perfect for my liking. He saw himself above everyone, except Komugi.
The only moment he showed fear was because of the rose/dying Netero.
HxH has much better villains with Chrollo and Hisoka(if you consider him a villain).
>>161782861
Kim uses /a/ in his off time between nuke launches.
Freeza is his ideal and his dream is to blow the planet up.
>>161785234
>>161785267
>Freeza is his ideal and his dream
>>161785234
chrollo a shit
we don't know his motivation, barely know his personality. he has no justification for his murder rampages and thievery.
explain.
>>161785357
Dumb hisocuck
>>161785357
You're a retard if you consider Hisoka a better villain. No motivation is better than a crappy motivation.
>>161785234
>Freeza and the Saiyan/Namek Saga was where the really strong powercreep started.
Yeah, so it fucked with how impactful his build up was.
>He showed too few emotions and was too perfect for my liking.
His emotions are more subtle, but they are there. He showed all kinds of emotions- his care for Komugi, his delusions of grandeur, his disdain for those who kissed his ass, and his hedonism and want for better "food".
The only motive Frieza has is a generic "ruling the universe" deal. His emotions are easier to see but not as deep.
>>161784677
Billion year old cosmic deity's whose job is to destroy planets on a daily basis think he's too fucked up
>>161785391
>His emotions are easier to see
>>161785376
>>161785390
the fuck? i didn't even mention hisoka. is this some kind of defense mechanism against anyone who bashes chrollo?
i just want the claim that he's a good villain, or better than meruem, or freiza, justified.
>>161785468
that's a good point
>>161783509
Only a pretentious weeb trying to look patrician on an anime image board would bring him up before Light Yagami.
>>161785391
>The only motive Frieza has is a generic "ruling the universe"
Meruems motive was rule the Earth through fear because he is better than the humans.
Meruem felt like an ideal turned into character and not like an actual character.
>His emotions are more subtle, but they are there
I didn't say that he had no emotions but few.
Love/attraction/care for Komugi
Arrogance
>hedonism
It was a while since I last read HxH, but late Meruem certainly didn't show hedonism.
He wanted to rule humanity not for his enjoyment , but because he thought his rule was the best for humanity.
>>161785827
>i didn't even mention hisoka
You didn't have to. It's obvious that your're a Hisocuck. Don't try to hide it.
>>161785939
Light Yagami is lamer than Light Turner
>>161785993
i don't care about hisoka or chrollo. and i still haven't seen anything to back up you saying chrollo is a good villain.
you're nothing but a raging autist, you can fuck off now.
>>161786083
>i don't care about hisoka or chrollo.
Sure, you highlighted only one of those characters instead of both of them just because, right? You're so transparent. Get fucked, Hisocuck.
>>161786337
explain why chrollo is a good villain right now faggot or you're nothing but a fake screecher
>>161786468
>He doesn't deny it
A subconscious way of admitting what I already knew. Thanks.
>>161786540
chrollo is a bad villain. prove me wrong.
hisoka isn't even a villain. prove me wrong.
>>161786615
>hisoka isn't even a villain
Holy delusional Hisocucks, Batman. Look up burden of proof, sweety. You make the claim, you back it up. Until you do, you lose.
>>161786665
chrollo is a horrible villain. you've had 3 chances to prove me wrong and you haven't. he's an awful villain. luckily the thread will die soon, later faggot.
>>161786868
>Running away even though the obligation is objectively on you to prove your point correct
So, yeah, you're basically admitting defeat and forfeiting your point. Nice one. Later.
>>161787046
>defeat
i tried to have a discussion not a battle, autist. you can't prove your own point so you have no room to speak.
>>161787247
>Still not knowing how burden of proof works
Also, why are you still here? I thought you were leaving?
>>161787429
you're the one who said he was leaving
>>161787490
>He
>Trying to pretend you're someone else when it's so obviously you
Kek.
>>161780915
His boyfriend is better.
>>161787553
so now you just don't understand grammer. when i said he i was referring to you, idiot.
why are you still talking? i have no point to prove, and yours was that chrollo is a good villain, which you completely failed to prove.
>>161787701
debatable, but both are top fucking tier
>>161787738
>when i said he i was referring to you, idiot.
Then talk to me in second person, not third, you moronic fucking retard. Is English even your first language, or are you just too underage and/or stupid to get a proper grasp of grammar?
>why are you still talking?
Why are you?
>i have no point to prove
Yes, you do. You've been ducking it for ages, but the burden of proof still lies with you. Ignoring it doesn't make it any less true.
>and yours was that chrollo is a good villain, which you completely failed to prove.
Now here's the kicker. Tell me where in this thread I claimed Chrollo was a good villain. I didn't. I don't have to prove a point I never made in the first place. But again, you're just too much of a braindead idiot to differentiate between making a point, and questioning someone else's. You, on the other hand, actually made a point, but have so far completely failed to back it up.
Superior to everyone in this thread..
>>161781049
nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor
>>161788331
Who?
>>161780980
>>161781220
Izaya's motivations are just "let's just do horrible things to fuck with people, it'll be fun to see how they react." He's an annoying /b/-tier prick and it's frustrating to see the story treat him like some sort of lovable rogue.
>>161780808
>>161787701
>>161787769
Cool Stand too. Whenever Whitesnake showed up you knew that arc would be good.
>>161788565
Jojo really needs more shittalking villian stands. Whitesnake being pissed off was fun.
>>161788545
He's so pretty.
>>161788690
I liked how expressive King Crimson was despite being completely silent, though I suppose that was intentional since you don't get to see the Boss' face until the final battle so KC had to emote on his behalf up until that point. Double faces means double the emotions I guess. He also looks ever so slightly confused in most panels in addition to however the Boss is feeling too, which is kind of funny and makes the finale a gold mine of KC reaction faces since not even the characters in the manga understood what GER did.
>>161782281
Raoh and Shin were better
>>161780951
he was cooler
>>161780808
Yoshikage Kira.
Japan will never create a villain this good.
Freeza? Nothing but a high-level boss monster.
Dio? Don't make me laugh, he was a coward who did nothing but send waves of his followers out to die until he finally got pinned in a corner.
Aizen? Don't. Think. So. His "grand plan" was to create a super special hybrid and then throw the hybrid in the trash, and then kill his own men in front of his enemies to show off, and then lose accomplishing nothing.
>>161780808
Sorta counts
>>161780808
Light Yagami
>>161780808
anyone voiced by him