Why are fujoshi so much numerous and poweful than Yuri fans?

Because males are useless

I don't get that impression at all

They aren't. You just notice them more because you don't like them.

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OP is officially on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD7DrF_tm_4

>>161697604
See the number of yaoi and yuri cercles at the Comiket?

Girls like gay shit and shipping more than boys do.

>>161698024
Are you taking the extra events for Touhou etc into account?

Fujos have tons of disposable income.

it's easier to mix gender as a girl than a boy

Because Yaoi is popular even among boys. Which is cuter, a boy fucking a girl (male) or a boy fucking a girl?

>the camera cuts to the back seat of a subaru, where Hanako, half-out of her gakuran, is wrist-deep in Yuka's dripping gash as an aikatsu greatest hits cd plays
Not sure this show counts as yuri, guys, it's only one couple and didn't Yuka smile at a guy once?

>the camera cuts to Taro and Daisuke going over their math homework in a booth in Starbucks
REEEEEEEE FUJOBAIT

Who cares, Looney Tunes fans greatly outnumber them.

>>161700494
this is objectively wrong.

>>161702383
Just like OP's assumption.

because women are more uniform in their love for yaoi then men are in their love for yuri. It can probably be argued that both yuri and yaoi (mostly) grew out of a shoujo manga demographic, and the yuri fandom both in the west and Japan is either majority female as well, or at least a 50/50 m/f split.

Look at all the /a/ posters who hate yuri because 'lesbians can't have sex, no penis.' With no penis and no one to self insert as, a lot of het men don't like yuri. Women have an easier time self-inserting as a male uke then men would as a lesbian.

Also some fujoshi are very insecure about their appearance and seeing straight sex still makes them feel low self esteem if the woman is drawn skinny or hot. 'muh male gaze!' women who like yaoi are like dudes who watch lesbian porn cuz they don't wanna see dick (i.e. , insecurity over their masculinity (or femininity, in the fujoshi's case))

>>161697475
Fujos are batshit insane.

>>161697475
Because fujos are more willing to bring out the sheckles for their hobby, so the industry panders to them more and more because thats where the money is. It's not exactly rocket science.

because yurifags are beta and even fujoshi are more aggressive than they are.

>>161697475
they got their husbands money to spend on merchandise, yuri-neet fags are broke as a joke.

I like yaoi and bl because it's just suffering.

Girls eventually find a whiteknight to save them or everyone just accepts them because they're cute. No one likes gays, and because of that they can never be really happy.

>>161697475
Female otaku actually want their pairings to end up together while male otaku only want teasing and will get mad if their cute anime girls actually eat each other's pussy.

Men have trouble self-inserting into something that doesn't have a penis. Most hardcore yuri fans are girls.

>>161697475
I am a fujoshi and I can say with 100% certainty that I hold no power to turn any characters in anime/manga gay or make my OTP come true
trust me, I tried

>>161702921
>yuri fans don't spend money
>what is Love Live

>>161703204
love live isn't yuri. gtfo mugi-kun
>>161702990
this basically. unless it's drawn by a woman or meant to appeal to women, a good chunk of "yuri" becomes futanari or an FFM threesome in doujinshi.

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>>161700494
>Which is cuter, a boy fucking a girl (male) or a boy fucking a girl?
I see you don't read vanilla.
Also, trap H-manga these days have the problem of making the traps huge cock-loving sluts, and love stories between boys and girls (male) are exceedingly rare. The same is sadly true for loli manga as well; too many little girls are just cock-gobbling semen demons.

>>161700283
It's demonstrated. Women are more likely to be bi than men.

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>>161701921
But LT is yaoi.

>>161702502
>muh male gaze
Have you considered that some het women simply don't want to see tits and pussy because it's not attractive to them? One guy is hot for them, two are even hotter. It's not about self-inserting, it's about watching a sex act involving two aesthetically and sexually attractive individuals instead of just one.

Regardless of culture, when having access to money, women are the biggest consumers. This is why big companies always aim for that market. It's also why your favorite company/product doesn't care about you anymore and ruined the thing you love.

>>161702502
It's not about low self esteem. In yaoi you can envision relationships where a male is the one getting dominated, which only makes sense when another guy is doing it to him because femdom is retarded and boring.
Hetero relationships are also boring because even a homely female can get herself a couple of beta orbiters to do her biding, so there's no intrigue in it(meanwhile a male has to compete for a female's attention). Plus in a hetero romance a heroine is always portrayed as an object of affection and is put on a pedestal, meanwhile yaoi fangirls want to see their husbando in that position, which is only possible in yaoi fantasies.

>>161704180
>Hetero relationships are also boring
I meant to say that it's boring to relate to.

>>161702502
>all the /a/ posters
it's just that one guy though

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I watch yaoi because I'm completely asexual and nothing arouses me, but men are simply aesthetically pleasing to look at. Women's bodies are wobbly and disgusting, and their voices are painfully shrill and piercing.

>>161704370
Their voices become deeper if you watch the anime at 50% speed.

>>161702502
>implying I don't self insert as the seme

>>161705846
Most of the girls I've spoken to who like yaoi do. You're definitely not unique.

>>161697475
Technically I'm both fujo and yurifag but I mostly watch fujoshit because
- there are more attractive 2D males than 2D females opposite of real life
- fujobait gets more art and doujins etc than yuribait, more imagination fuel
- anything with female characters and romance attracts self righteous moralfags like flies, look at how they acted like the yuri NTR anime personally raped them with a chair
- male characters on average get more screentime with each other and more exciting interactions, again more fuel

>>161702502
>and the yuri fandom both in the west and Japan is either majority female as well, or at least a 50/50 m/f split.
It mostly male in Japan.

>>161704180
Girls on top with male focus only come in BDSM, trap, and /ss/ flavors unfortunately. If you want one or none of these the girl is still the focus of the doujin.

And a well crafted one of the above will be leagues better than any BL, especially if it's the same boring tripe over and over again.

But Yaoi also has its problems. A by-girls-for-girls genre like BL also has many male leads in the stereotypical role of the "girl", so only the top has to really try. If anything I can appreciate how the dynamics can be varied, but looking at it through a typical relationship lense it's all just the same shit but with two dicks instead of one.

>>161704370
I haven't heard that one before.

>>161702980
> Female otaku actually want their pairings to end up together while male otaku only want teasing

What the fuck do you think fujobaiting is? Female otaku and fujos can just sustain themselves off of character interactions and have their imaginations fill the gap, same as male otaku. A lot of the shows they flock to don't actually have the boys end up together. Stuff like No 6, Gays on Ice, and (maybe) SamFlam are the exception.

Cute boys having cute discussions revealing their pure desire to achieve parenthood. What a shame the only potential breedable human girl in the show doesn't do anything besides hose a nigga off with cold water every morning. I mean I guess it'd be fun to get your seed all mixed up in some ectoplasm, though.

>>161702980
No. Most female otaku, especially the fujoshi who grew out of shoujo manga, do not want canon touching their ship. They've learned that creators will often fuck up romance of any kind and would much rather everything stay ambiguous.

>>161706975
He isn't saying they need their pairings to end up together, just that they'd prefer it if given the choice. But I think he's wrong about
>male otaku only want teasing and will get mad if their cute anime girls actually eat each other's pussy.
The ones who want teasing aren't the ones getting mad, the difference is more male otaku who hate homos (female) and steer clear if the yuri is too strong, while female hetfags generally can ignore any homo and enjoy the show.

>>161697475
Females liking gay romance is more socially accepted than males liking lesbian sex.

>>161707194
then why is there so much lesbian porn aimed at dudes?

>>161707281
They said "socially accepted", just because you watch or even pay for porn doesn't mean you talk about it in your social life.

Though comparing romance to porn is wrong, the comparison is gay romance - lesbian romance or gay porn - lesbian porn.

>>161706344
>It mostly male in Japan.
Completely false. Most Yuri mangaka are female. yuri magazine are aimed at female and if you ever browse pixiv or similar, you know girl who ship homo couples tend to draw some yuri fanarts.

>>161706975
>Female otaku and fujos can just sustain themselves off of character interactions and have their imaginations fill the gap, same as male otaku.
Just because they can, doesn't mean they wish for it.

Fujo have no power over magazine and writers, so they need to settle for what they are given.

>>161707194
>Females liking gay romance is more socially accepted than males liking lesbian sex.
What? If anything lesbian sex is pretty much widely accepted even in most homophobic cultures.

You can see it on /a/, people flip their shit at homos but no one gives a shit about Saki and Mari in SSY or Illya.


>>161707103
> do not want canon touching their ship
Citation needed.

>>161707194
Is it? Fujo here, I always got the impression it was the other way around. In my country it's almost unmanly for a guy not to like the idea of lesbians. A romanticised idea of them sure, preferably bisexuals who'll fawn over the dick, but still.

>>161697475
About half of the yuri fans are also fujos. When it comes to actually spending money pretty fagboys sell more like huge tits to men. The industry's catching up as well, next season will have probably the most fujoshit or fujobaits in recent memory.

>>161707591
It's accepted in theory ("you mean I can have her best friend too?") but not in practice ("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!").

This is the opposite of two men, which is accepted in practice (not gay if the balls don't touch, not gay if it's a younger boy, not gay if at happens at sea, Tuesday's your turn in the barrel) but not in theory.

>>161707485
>Most Yuri mangaka are female.
There are lots of males too and mangaka are not representative of the audience anyway.
>yuri magazine are aimed at female
Yurihime S was aimed at males, after it merged with Yurihime the resulting Yurihime was aimed at both and it drifted more toward Yurihime S content over time.
Mebae and L Girls were aimed at males.
Tsubomi was editorial linked with Kirara so it's generally seen as having been aimed at males.

And most serializations of yuri in non-yuri publications have been in shounen and seinen magazines. Yuri in shoujo and josei magazines are considerably rarer.
>and if you ever browse pixiv or similar, you know girl who ship homo couples tend to draw some yuri fanarts.
And tons of male artists draw yuri.

It is easier to find examples of cases of yuri events where attendance is mostly male.

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>>161707864
>It's accepted in theory ("you mean I can have her best friend too?") but not in practice ("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!")
I've never seen anyone sum up and describe that contradiction as well as you did anon.

Most men are into het and most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes.

>>161708180
>most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes
Yeah that's kinda sad too. Even lesbians end up reading yaoi as a result of this (see my lesbian experience with loneliness pretty sure she's not the only one far from it). Not that it isn't true for a sizeable number of yuri, but still.

>>161707864
That's basically it but even this example
>("you mean i can't? I'mma cure that bitch with my dick!")
is more the "theory" than the "practice" ("I'm outta here, get that girl shit away from me").

>>161708180
>most women think yuri is just male gaze for straight dudes.
Female yurishitter here, I could write a sjw style essay on why this makes me mad but since this isn't tumblr I'll just say it's annoying as fuck and why we can't have nice things.

>>161708355
Would you mind recommanding me something? My experience with yuri can be summed up with Utena, LWA, and Ryoko Ikeda.

>>161707948
>It is easier to find examples of cases of yuri events where attendance is mostly male.
Except this is completely false. Most online polls and most IRL events have higher female attendance.


But, I preconize you. You are that guys who thought online polls about Yuri were lying.

>>161707864
Yeah, but are are talking about porn here. No straight teenager is going to be turned off by lesbian porn, lesbians don't even faze homophobes.

Of course this doesn't mean they don't get triggered by real lesbians too.

>>161701921
i see you

>>161697475
Ha! I knew it was the right choice to drop this crap.

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>>161703879
this is a rabbit (male)

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>>161708895
>Except this is completely false.
It is true. For example it's well known that GLF attendees are mostly. Here is a photo of people waiting to get in.

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>>161709015
Faggit,

>>161697475
fujos spend more money

also yuri really only exists so that people can waifus that do lewd things while still being 'pure' because it doesn't count if its with a woman
A girl getting groped by another girl = okay
A girl getting groped by a non-self insert guy = completely ruined, will not buy keychains

>>161708895
Also, if you trust online polls so much, here's one conducted by a yuri site that showed 58% males:

http://yurinavi.com/2017/02/05/yurihime_anke_kekka/

>>161709282
Sorry, 56% male as a whole, 58% for those that read Yurihime.

>>161709282
>It's the same autist for last time

Holy shit, it really gets you angry that female make the majoirity of Yuri fans. But I thought you said online polls were lying?

>>161708355
another female yurishit dyke here, and this pisses me off too so very much. me and a lot of other dykes figured out how gay we are from yuri. tumblr feminists ruin everything

>>161709357
If the evidence was that women were the majority I would be perfectly fine with that.

Have you noticed how weak your claims are? It's you that has an emotional attach to your wrong belief.

>But I thought you said online polls were lying?
You would be foolish to put faith in polls where people choose whether to respond. I don't, but since you apparently do I gave you one.

>>161709535
>If the evidence was that women were the majority I would be perfectly fine with that.
>You would be foolish to put faith in polls where people choose whether to respond.
No you are not.

>>161709597
Both statements are entirely true.

>>161709597
only idiots think that online polls mean anything

>>161708895
don't bother oneesan. if something doesn't agree with their preconceived narrative they just shut their ears and scream and pretend it doesn't exist, then cherry pick photos allegedly from some dumb fucking event that 'proves' their point.
You could argue that the japanese yuri fandom is about 50/50 m/f (I don't believe it is, but you could argue it). But the western yuri fandom is very much female dominated.
>>161707948
the only significant yuri manga I can think of being done by a guy is sasameki koto. No, I don't count slice of life bait shit like the yurus to be yuri. Yurihime S was canceled because men ddidn't buy enough yuri to support it.
>>161707591
this is because lesbians please the het man dick, but really they're fetishizing bisexuals because they assume the women will want their dick at some point. it's not the sexual activity with other women that trigger the fuck out of homophobes and het men; it's the fact that women exist that want absolutely nothing to do with men or penis

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>>161701921

>>161709645
Nope, it shows you are unable to accept facts, unless it suits your agenda. Literally conspiracy theory tier.

>>161697475
Because yuri is a niche fetish whereas shipping men together is basically the default for female fans. Women gravitate to it much, much more strongly for a bunch of reasons (less desire to self insert, male characters/relationships are usually better written and more engaging, they like the additional taboo and drama, more insecurity relating to her own sexuality due to stigma/gender roles, etc).

Frankly, I don't understand why same sex shipping isn't universally more popular for everyone. The simple fact of being attracted to both characters makes everything more enjoyable, especially for porn. But men are more interested in imagining themselves in those situations while women are happy to or even prefer distancing themselves.

>>161709691
were you honestly expecting anything better or smarter from some deluded virgin het shit waifufag from /a/?

Isn't the "Their Story" manhua written by a guy?

>>161709795
Never mind I was tricked

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>>161704370
There's literally a subgenre for what you're looking for and you don't even have to hide the fact you're in the closet while watching it

>>161697475
Because Yuri is for Cucks

>>161709691
It does no such thing.

>>161709772
I'm actually a massive yuri fan.

All that matters is that yurifags (all of them always ugly males without exception) are considered pieces of shit and should feel ashamed for losing in spending abilities against fujoshi.
And that despite women earning less money than men.
How pathetic do you have to be as a male to lose against women who are into gay-acting dudes doing girly things?

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>>161705846
>>161705971
>self insert as the seme
I do that too. I like fapping while I think of ukeish characters orgasming with my fictional self insert dick.
I don't even like A/Z but I'll be forever grateful to it for giving me my favourite character to fap to (fapbando?).

>>161710157
hahahahaha oh shit I need to save and use this. "but being a lesbian is misandry!" yeah male crybabies and fuck right off with that shit

>>161710257
How pathetic do you have to be to see at as a competition? Fujos don't give a shit because they don't spent their lives being angry at the opposite sex.

>>161710157
then stop bitching about /u/ being overrun by dykes

I just want all the sjws to go fucking read GL if they think BL is so "problematic". Just become a yurishitter and leave fujos alone.

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>>161697475
Because the yuri audience is incredibly divided on how they actually want their yuri to be. Yuri couples can range from potential threesomes, to more-than-friends-but-less-than-lovers, to Class-S, to subtext, to cutsie drama-free, to serious angst-filled and everything in between. Should it be the purest form of love or raunchy fanservice? Some even prefer their yuri to be an accompaniment to another genre like CGDGT, mecha, or action rather than focused on the romance. And picking one of the above will usually alienate a large chunk of other yurifags.

I think this also causes the same "the yuri fanbase is x% of women/men" argument that always crops up in these threads up because the numbers change depending on the type of yuri in question.

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>>161710157
>you like girls, that's SEXIST
>don't call me sweetheart tinydick
>I'm going to be conduction SURVEILLANCE on your account until you stop putting men down by being gay
I can't breath.

>>161709772
You're confusing 4chan with other cancer sites, lurk more.

>>161710638
an actual smart post for once.
potential threesomes if MFF is NOT yuri because there is a male involved. if people misinterpret stuff like Netsuzou Trap or Utena as potential threesomes though, that's on them for misinterpreting the genre

>>161710626
What the fuck are you talking about? What world are you living in? Did you even read this thread?

>>161710638
That's true for hetshit and yaoishit fanbases too though.

>>161710711
/a/ is generally ok most the time, except when dumb /pol/tards and robots come spilling over. we still get fuckin frogposts here and chad memes from time to time so they're easy to spot most the time

>>161710777
Yeah its a thread with yurishitters being delusional and defensive.

>>161708767
Watch Flip Flappers

>>161708767
Depends on what genres you like.

>>161697475
Fujoshi are a very vocal minority with some purchasing power, yuri fans aren't as loud and don't purchase as much so they fly under the radar more than the fujos.

>>161710788
The yaoi fanbase is special in that 90% of the fanbase wants the seme/uke dynamic and doesn't really care about much else.

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>>161710847
Should I, really? I can't help being sceptical.

>>161710872
My favourite genres are battle shonen, mecha, josei, and pretentious shit.

>>161697475
You'll see people bring up BL series in discussions about manga in general, and there's even a lot of prolific mangaka that output a ton of that stuff, whereas anything with yuri is automatically classified as fringe manga and you'll only hear about it if you're specifically looking for yuri manga.

I've noticed that no one really minds when girls like yaoi (or yuri), gay males are allowed to spam yaoi wherever they want (seriously mods please move that to the right board), but whenever a male mentions yuri everyone gets upset.

>>161711089
Because yuricucks are the worst

>>161711014
Maybe Simoun and Mai-Hime then? I can't quite remember the quality of Simoun but I know it has a boat load of yuri (because everyone is born a girl, they can choose to grow a dick at their 'coming of age') but it's also full of plot and fighting.

Mai-Hime meanwhile isn't yuri per-se, there's really only one yuri relevant character, but she is absolutely one of the most memorable /u/ characters and it's produced a lot of fan-content. It's a good starter as long as you don't mind main het couple, which I assume you won't.

Also if you don't mind watching garbage but want to see one of the most iconic yuri animes you can watch Kannazuki no Miko.

Fujis seem to car more about motivation and characterization than any other demo

It isn't their fault yurifriends will watchh their characters become cardboard sex doll cutouts for the ecchi payoff

>>161711089
fuckin idiot.
>yaoi
>yuri on ice
>????

>yuri
>shoujo kakumei utena
>my lesbian experience with loneliness
>aoi hana
>yuri kuma arashi
>onisama e...
>madoka magica
>sasameki koto
>kase san

yuri anime & manga are much better made than yaoi shit.

>>161712176
overrated garbage and irrelevant shit

>>161711405
Thanks for the recs, those look interesting. I knew about mai-hime but not simoun. That last one even less so. I'll watch it if it's like a kazetoki of yuri.

>>161710157
This was a fun read, but who are these people and why should I care?

>>161710329
God, Slayne was literally made for semen.

>>161712176
>saezuru
>kazetoki
>terra e
>ai no kusabi
>a cruel god's reign
>marginal
And i didn't even scratch the surface.

>>161713337
Literally never heard about any of that shit

>>161713360
Yeah I figured that much from your previous ignorant post.

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>>161710157
Holy shit that guy is pathetic, I didn't expect to laugh as much as I did.

>>161713425
That wasn't me but at least I could recognize most of those on his list

>ignorant

Go watch your Homos on Fire landwhale

>>161713493
Why are you so angry at my knowing stuff you don't? Apply some moisturizer to your butt, will you.

>itt yurinigger circlejerk

>>161713553
Who said I'm angry, I just find it curious fujotrash like you thinks your glorified sodomy is relevant to anyone besides yourselves

>>161713675
Yet Fujoshit is actually profitable

>>161713675
Well I find it curious you discard stuff you don't know as irrelevant and would rather wallow and wriggle in your ignorance like a worm but hey to each their own.

Why does /a/ hate yuri more than yaoi nowadays? Not that I'm glad about them hating the latter by the way.

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>>161713095
No worries. There's more out there, it all depends on if you like it explicit or low-key.

Most of this image is a joke but there are a few gems here, like Re: Cutie Honey.

>>161713828
because traps have gradually turned many otherwise straight neets into complete faggots

>>161713828
There's yuri shitposters that will derail threads for no reason and there's /a/'s obvious love for cock.

>>161713828
Because most yaoi shows are blatantly yaoi, so they're self-contained, if you don't like boys kissing boys you won't go anywhere near them.
However you can have a good show with a spice of yuri in it and you'll be forced to deal with yurifags if you want to discuss it.
Case in point Madoka, a fine show but since it has yuri you'll find it hard to discuss it without having to deal with annoying yurifags shipping faggotry.

>>161713827
See, just because your fujotrash friends praise it doesn't mean it's actually good, you may think it's relevant but only because you are a gay fetishist

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True patricians like both.

>>161707948
>most serializations of yuri in non-yuri publications have been in shounen and seinen magazines.
This doesn't mean they're necessarily targeted at men though, it's also possible that they were published in those magazines to attract a wider audience than the typical male one.

>>161713962
Complaining about yuri fans in the Madoka fanbase is as dumb as complaining about fujos in the YOI fanbase though.

>>161714006
>yurinig calling a fujo a gay fetishist
the ironining

>>161709649
To be fair, every yuri magazine has been cancelled for low sales. Only Yurihime remain and because they focus on a cross-demographic appeal with cute girls doing cute shit and pretty boys

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>>161714069
Yuri is classy, yaoi is just perversion

>>161714184
>flip floppers
this is even more pathetic

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>>161710626
Most sjws are into social justice for being trendy. Rarely they find something "problematic" when there are pretty boys around. Tumblr loves shoujo, K-dramas and otomes.

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In response to more content aimed at females
>let those bitches spend their own money and create enough demand if they want more media aimed at them!
>women proceed to do just that and create a boom of the kind of content they like
>WAAAAH WTF IS WITH ALL THIS FUJOSHIT CLOGGING UP JAPANESE MEDIAAA REEEEEE
Never change.

>>161714209
Funny they find shit problematic when it's 2D boys not wanting to fuck them.

reminder that madoka outsold your fav fujoanime

>>161714184
That's blatantly untrue. Greek mythology, the Bible and the Epic of Gilgamesh had yaoi. Yaoi is ancient art, yuri is just a degenerate fetish.

>>161714184
Yaoi is the purest form of love.
Women are a meme, even 2D.

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>>161714006
Stop it anon, that post of yours is like a total eclipse of intelligence.
too bright
too dazzling
I might go blind if you keep this up. Sorry but I can't look straight at you anymore.

>>161714323
i don't think anyone in this thread is looking straight, senpai

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>>161714281
Urobutcher said Homura doesn't feel sexual attraction toward Madoka aka not a lesbian

>>161714287
That's because those old barbaric men just couldn't comprehend yuri, thus they ignored its exixtence.

>>161714287
Sappho would have liked to have had a word with you, I bet.

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>>161714287
>yaoi is ancient art, yuri is just a degenerate fetish
It's funny because it's true.

Fuck the people recommending yuri made by dudes and yaoi made by women anyway. I'd rather at least the lesbian mangaka write realistic gay women in their manga instead of focusing on gay men that don't act like gay men.

>>161714373
Sappho was great but she wrote as much hetshit as she did lesbian stuff.

>>161714360
>he never read Plato
true love doesn't require sexual urges. In fact chaste true love for someone who aren't related to is the purest thing in the universe.

Plenty of women had non-sexual romantic friendship that became their singular obsession like Virginia Wolfe.

>>161714371
They were enlightened men who acknowledged women as inferior creatures whose only purpose was to breed children.

>>161714450
Urobutcher never read Plato, or any book.

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>>161714287
This

>>161714360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Uy_EC6ZkU

How do you be a misogynist while reading women's fetish manga, which was originally used to explore the sexuality of bi and queer women.

>>161710626
>sjw
>/a/
Kys

>>161709535
>Have you noticed how weak your claims are?
Your claims are just as weak. Assuming you're referring to that old Yurihime poll that is usally at the center of these debates (and that wasn't even taken online if I recall correctly), it's entirely possible the results could be biased due to men lying for some reason or simply not answering as much as women. However, even if that was true it wouldn't prove men were the primary audience 10 years ago in any way, just that the poll is not statistically relevant.
Make sure to sage on page 10 again by the way.

>>161714647
Because yuri is pure

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>>161714534
Fucking Naruto is gayer than that

>>161714768
If we go by actual kisses than that is also gayer than your precious Homos on Ice

>>161714391
This is why fujos go nuts over SJ series and take over their fanbases.
Boys written by men >>>>> boys written by thirsty fujos

>>161697475
yuri fans are mostly male. Not a lot of men produce a lot of doujin work while fujoshi work nonstop producing content

that's from my perspective at least

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Stop fighting, yuribros and yaoibros. You must never forget hetshit is our real mutual enemy.

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>>161714916
I actually don't hate anything, I'm just here to waste time

>>161702935
This. Reading 19 Days right now and there's just too much pain. You KNOW its going to keep getting worse before it gets better and that makes the good parts all the sweeter. With a girl there's only so much bad that can happen before it's considered over the line

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>>161714916
What a pure world it would be.

>>161704370
You're gay

>>161715142
You're gayer.

>>161715142
>>161715322
Now kiss and make up.

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I would just like to say that yuri baiting is pretty much a default for every bit of side art and such even if it's not in the canon setting, all female characters in a show for more than 5 seconds will inevitably be lezzed up in some fanart within 30 minutes, and these things are not true of guy on guy. Yuri is so predominant that you're either blind to deny this, or else so used to it as to not even be aware.

Fujo is leagues more rare (anywhere). I stand beside our BL-adoring filthy girls insolidarity because when you love one candy bar, two is even better. I fail to see why this ends up turning into some kind of war every damn time.

At any rate, I think we can all agree on one thing and that is: it's not gay if it's Sebastian from Black Butler.

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>>161714360
and Yamada said that Kumiko isn't gay, whats your point?

>>161697475
Both kind are garbage people with autism.

>>161715857
Fuck off

>>161714714
>kys
>/a/
Fuck off faggot.

>>161716609

>I wonder what he meant by this

>>161697475
Fujos actually buy merch.

>>161714916
i can agree. hetero is the enemy.
>>161714456
proof that /pol/fags and /r9k/ robots are in fact, repressed homosexual males. it's okay to be gay anons if you don't like women.

>>161718768
Not that anon, but it probably has to do with the way you type "Male gaze" also sounds like tumblr jargon to me. Odd spacing, dumb greentexting and your use of ellipsis are a dead giveaway, too. You just seem like a cunt who should lurk more before posting on this board.

chagen is a nigger

Oh c'mon guys, I just like watching cute boys in love. Tragic homo is shit though because it's always the same.

>>161719055
REEEEEEEEEEEE!! You don't type in a way that satisfies my autism!

>>161719028
>proof that /pol/fags and /r9k/ robots
Why the fuck are you assuming yuriniggers have anything to do with /pol/tards or /r9k/ you dumb slit? This entire thread, starting from the second >>161697498 post just screams of fat fujos frothing at the mouth yelling about how they hate the penis while paradoxically creaming themselves at the idea of faggots fucking each other, and yurifuckers taking the bait and having an autistic storm.

If anything, this thread supports the theory of gays are mentally ill.

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>>161719218
>REEEEEEEEEEEE!!
>!!
Go back to twitter or facebook, memer. Lurk more.

>>161697475
If females were allowed to be open about their sex fetish they would scare alot of people

Fujoshis are evolving to finally realize how shit the 'tragic homo' trope is. The key to raking in fujobucks is:
>Two male main characters (possibly two other male side characters, a couple of friendish women)
>Romance is subtle and secondary to the plot (most of the time) but blatantly romantic/"more than friends'
>Attraction is mutual
>No "I'm gay only for you" shit
>Not being retarded as a creator of the show by saying the two male leads aren't attracted to each other
>Bonus points if outside of high school
>Bonus points if childhood friends
>Even more bonus points if yuri side-pairing liking both yuri and yaoi is patrician taste

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>>161701851
Fucking this, it makes me wanna rip my hair out. It's just a bunch of closet cases that see gay shit everywhere.

Females have always been known for buying power. Yaoi bait has gotten better and better over the years. Once Kyoanime released Free with slight gay studios saw money opening by pandering directly to women. Now that Gays on Ice has gone mostly full homo and raked in megamoney and popularity expect more studios to go this direction.
Its all about gay escalation

>>161719848
You mean sort of like real life? Which I wish there was more of even. Even as gay guy, unless you're specifically watching a yaoi and you know what you're getting into, I hate having it shoved in my face. Just make the romance natural and not make the gay characters existence for nothing more than the butt of a joke.

>>161719848
>>No "I'm gay only for you" shit

Fujos don't seem to mind this but the rest of your points are good. To a future where the key to getting fujobucks is not copping out. Aan ambiguous relationship in an non romance focus show is far better than insisting it's just friendship and nothing more.

>>161701851
this

>>161714211
This post is seriously underrated

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>>161720099
What's the next step? When does it stop?

>>161720099
>thinking YOI is the start of fujobait escalation

Gundam Wing would like a word with you

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>there are actually retards in this thread that think fujobaiting and pandering to women started with Free and YoI

>>161714487
He's read book titles and wikiquotes from them

>>161710526
you need to die of cancer.