All out Gilgamesh vs All out post-God form Goku

>all out gil

>>161685928
>all out Goku

Can't fight with full strenght, might hurt Vegeta's feelings again.

>>161685901
It's a dude with swords vs a dude with just his fists. I don't see how Goku can ever win this

>>161685901
Gil's Noble Phantasm is just Frieza's old sex toy. What the fuck is this power level thread?

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Accel defeats both

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>>161685901

>He never saw Fate/Strange Fake

Gil got stopped by True Archer(Hercules) and his Enuma Elish got nullified by Lancer(Enkidu) and he was 100% serious unlike in Stay Night and Zero

>>161685901
Gil's max output is destroying a single universe according to some shit in SF.

Goku can do that with casual punches so this ends pretty badly for Gil.

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>>161686943
>Gil's max output is destroying a single universe according to some shit in SF.

>>161685901
Goku of course, he is faster than the light

>>161685901
Gilgamesh would easily beat Goku, all he would have to do is use Gate of Babylon. Goku literally can't do anything to stop him.

Don't watch Fate but SSB Goku is a complete jobber. He jobbed to Sorbet ffs.

>>161687189
Gel was killed by a ginger and never won a grail war

>>161687221
He defeated lancelot that's all that matters.

>>161687238
He failed either way

>>161686943
That are from the vidyas, we are talking about Anime only.

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>killing goku when he loses to shirou

>>161685901
Gil isn't that good. His only tactic is "wait a second while I rummage around in my vault and pull out some magical shit." Other than that his stats are meh.

Don't let him open GoB, and then punch his face in. Dumbass Shirou was able to do that.

I never understood why his opponents wait for him to draw Ea or some shit like that. Get up in his face and kick him in the nuts.

>>161685901
>Gill
how???

>>161687458
enkidu

>>161686656
>True Archer is the equivalent of a cheater in a video game, a being who shouldn't exist exploiting the systems of the holy grail iself
>Enkidu nullified his weapon self
Not that I'm arguing in favor of Gil, but this is a pretty unfair comparison.

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Goku is FAR beyond summoning magic swords really fast at this point. Gill would need to kill a lot of poachers to catch up

>>161687655
Man, I cannot type today.

>>161687471
Doesn't that only really work against divine beings and the like?
It might work against blue or god, but if goku just powered down to base or just regular ssj then it shouldn't be a problem right?

I love Gil as much as the next guy but nigga it's goku

>>161685901
>Goku has God Ki
>Gil has a weapon that can defeat gods
Gil crushes this guy

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>>161685901
Is there anyone who could defeat Broly?

And I'm not talking about Super Saiyan Broly, I'm not even talking about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Broly, I'm talking about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Hollow Sage Mode Max-Rage Green Gamma King of Games Sentry Homunculus Broly with the Infinity Gauntlet, Millennium Puzzle, Mjolnir, and both the One Ring, Red Lantern and Green Lantern rings equipped, the powers of the Grail absorbed, along with abilites of the Rinne Sharingan, Gudōdama, Eternal Mangekyō and the combined powers of the Triforce of Courage, Wisdom and Power, who utilizes the Ame no Hitotsu no Kami chakra to equip a full Ichigo no naimen no Horō Mask with all of the Dragon Balls in hand while being chosen by the Crimson Behelit and possessing additional Danzō Sharingan-implanted arm enchantments with the Hōgyoku embedded in his chest as well as having full mastery of Hokuto Shinken and Hokuto Sōke no Ken.

>>161685901
Isn't goku now so fast that even the concept of time doesn't exist for him?

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>>161687867
UMM

>>161685901
The real question is can gil kill uchiha madara?

>>161687867
Goku is not a God, idiot

>>161687914
Broly is summoned as a servant, and is killed by a young man named Shiki.

Goku is too fast for this bitchboy to even comprehend. He sticks his dick in every orifice of his body before his eyes have a chance to move.

>>161686943
>goku getting incapacitated with laser gun
>beating anyone

>>161687189
Gilgamesh is probably the biggest jobber in the history of visual novels

"unbeatable" villain who gets owned by a fucking prana manlet just because plot says so

Someone post that picture when shirou archer and rin run away knowing ilya summoned goku as berserker.

>>161688060
A laser gun that is miles more powerful than a manlet with a knife

>>161688060
he had the defense of a basic humans bean since his defense was down. No Ki = No Power.

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>>161688060
educate yourself

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>>161688060
a laser gun that can kill servants too

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>>161686609
He's weak as fuck and a little bitch after he got shot

this video pretty much resume what would happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCQfjeWB3o

Goku could kill him in less than a nano second

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>>161685901
>king of jobbers
>winning
Just have Goku cut out a bunch of cardboard sword and be done with it.

>>161688128
>bean

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>>161688098
>>161688128
Goku lost his sense of tactics after Z, he some how turned into a manchild and has no brains. An intelligent fighter would beat him easily, but Frieza, Cell, Buu and others are all easy to beat because they are drunk on power.

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>>161685901
Gil:
A spoiled brat born with all the priviledges of the world and never experienced what it means to toil the Earth

Goku:
An orphaned alien who went from rags to riches, finding allies in his journey, and gathered all the powers that he rightfully deserves

Even if we forgo every single power they have install and start from scratch, logic says that Goku would win because he has the power of Nakama whereas Gil is a half-hearted halved Frieza

>>161687780
Goku has already divine ki in base, it changed after ritual.

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>vs thread
>no saitama posters
>no madara posters
weird

>>161688272
Sure and Gil is so dumb he won't even wear his armor after he faced UBW.
All blondes are dumb

>>161688393
>amazed that a thread stays on topic
Fuck off eva shitter

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>people actually think Gil has any chance in hell

>>161688534
To be honest, Gil isn't even respected that much by Fatefags despite supposedly being the most powerful servant in-universe.

>>161685901
>god
Enkidu. GG.
Gil hates the very concept of a God. Even if Goku is a million times stronger than Gil physically, Gil still wouldn't allow himself to lose.

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>>161688825
>Gil still wouldn't allow himself to lose.

>>161688825
Yes, and he lost to a mongrel despite considering himself untouchable

>>161688534
This thread is half shit posts

>>161688534
Goku is just shit though. His punches can't even fuck up the steel lizard. The term 'Kami' in Dragonball denotes a role more than any huge amount of power. Goku is still weak as shit and Gil has a bunch of abstract abilities. Also Goku counts as divine which means a shit load of anti-divine tools can be used on him. He'd be fucked in minutes.

DB is a series with piss all feats of strength and then some nonsensical shit about something said not shown. Full power God form goku was starting to break universe with Beerus meaning blue should be worse and any real fight in blue should completely fuck anything nearby. It doesn't. DB's feats are all fluff and the most consistent showing and use of power is that they're really not all that strong.

>>161688875
>>161688884
And? Doesn't really have anything to do with what I said. Sure, Gil lost, but so does literally every antagonist. That's their very role. This thread is not about whether Gil is invincible or not. It's about whether he would beat an actual mongrel, in a serious fight.

>>161688956
Goku is a mortal. He has no magic, only Ki

>>161689015
Yes and he lost to a manlet

>>161689024
He has God-ki and magic is merely an application of natural forces just like ki is. Humans can do magic. Namekians can do magic and so on.
He has God-ki he would be considered divine and open to divine conditions on his weapons

>>161689060
Nope Ki and Magic in DBZ univerese are extrely different. Ki is just an extension of the warrior's power. Magic like the one used to control Vegeta and Boo turning people in candy are purely divine

>>161689202
It's not purely divine you DBZ baby. Go back to super threads.

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>>161688956
>>161689060
If being a magic-user is all it takes for Gil's anti-divine arsenal to show its true power, then that would mean that any magelet in Nasuverese can be affected by his chain, dumb idiot.

Shit won't even work on Caster and she is Greek mythology's most powerful magician. Even more powerful than lesser gods

>>161688305
>Gil
>Never toiled the Earth

>Literally does just that after Enkidu dies

>>161689602
I never said magic was what did it you fucking retard. DBZbaby said that. I said he has God-ki, which in effect makes him divine by DBZ/S standards.
Magic has literally nothing to do with it other than DBZbaby trying to pretend he wouldn't get stomped.

>>161685901
Just summon Gil as a caster. Goku has 0 immunity to magic.

>>161689700
Pretty sure that is not possible. Gil can be summoned as an archer because his gate can throw but he can't be a Sabre because he is not a swords man.
So is being a caster

>>161687867
>has a weapon that can defeat gods
>loses to an autistic Japanese ginger manlet

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>>161689635
Oh, so you're saying that just because Goku has powers similar to god's, he is considered divine?

Caster is a god level and chains don't work on her because she is mortal. So goes for future-Shirou who bacame a time-travelling guardian. Arthuria also had the Avalon which is a gift from the Lady of the Lake

>>161689827
>similar
No he has the same essence, process and source of power. This isn't man emulating God he is technically a God, hence the God form which he springboards blue off. He counts as divine and would get fucked. End of story.

Even if you don't want to count divinity there's the consistency of feats I mentioned in my first post which demonstrate how he would lose anyway and finally his inability to resist magic which further tips the scales.

There's no point in arguing a cut and dry case.

>>161689700

Goku fought magic all the time. Vegitto could fight as a candy man

>>161689750
Get with the times, grandpa. Caster Gil is already a thing.

>>161689928
So glad I never learned it.
Fate frachise is nothing but shitposting chalkboard for writers now

>>161689905
>he has the same essence, process and source of power
Well he isn't god, the term used is that he "has god ki", he is still a ningen.
All he has to do is not use god ki and do the super sayan transformations instead.

>>161689905
He still physically is a mortal

>>161689905
Oh. Then by that logic, the chains should work on Archer because he is not a mortal anymore.

Also no. None of your first post can even compare to everything that happened on Frieza saga

>>161690083
>the term used is that he "has god ki
>super sayain God
No the term is God.

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>>161689750
Caster Gil is already a thing, anon.
You're arguing the man who owns everything can't be certain classes. He has magic staves, magic swords, bows and lances, space ships that travel faster than the speed of light. Pretty much everything. He can fit any class he wants to fit. If throwing shit can make you an "archer", then just owning a sword of ultimate destruction can make you a Saber.

>>161690126
Could Gil be a berserker? Its been a while since I read the source material

>>161687941
Yes he is.

>>161689905
Vegito was strong enough to resist magic and he has long been outshined in super

>>161690114
This is the name of the transformation. As I said whenever someone describes the transformation it is as "uses god ki". Even if the name was literal, he could still NOT use the transformation and go normal super sayan. If he doesn't use the transformation, he isn't a super sayan god and you can't do anything.

>>161690126
i know. The point is if you can use it on the same mastery as someone who trained on it.
A scholar can't do anything with a greaty axe

Well, that was the rules before

>>161688825
>wouldn't allow himself to lose
Just like when he got defeated by Shirou, amirite?

Also, there is a 99% chance Goku gets another transformation, multiplying his power even more

>>161690159
No he isn't. He used ki to break a ki based time manipulation. Even Hit himself couldn't out speed purple rabbit who is faster than light and at this point the fastest character in the show (sans teleportation techniques) stop making shit up.

>>161690154
Everyone can be Berserker, not just Gil. Berserker is a class that can be summoned on will. With the appropriate preparations and incantations, you can have any servant you summon be Berserker, given that a Berserker hasn't already been summoned.

>>161690126
>the man who owns everything
lel he is never a grand servant because he is too weak.

>>161690205
*another transformation this arc

>>161690195
But it wasn't? From the very first material we had Medusa as a Rider and she sure as hell isn't famed for being a great rider.

>>161690212
HE is.

>>161690215
Oops, I was under the impression that a servant had to have beserked atleast once in their life to qualify

>>161690186
>whenever someone describes the transformation it is as "uses god ki
That's blue

>>161690230
Pegasus came out from her neck.
It's literally just her inner self

>>161690282
That doesn't change the point that they don't have to be a master of the class they're summoned in.

>>161690318
Pegasus is her.
If she mastered her own skills, then Pegasus is just an extension of herself

>>161690195
Yeah, no. You just have to classify, being a "master" means jack shit. I sure do remember the "master" Rider Medusa, or the "master" Assassin Kojirou, or the "master" Mage Gilles, the guy that could barely use magic. Gil can be a better Rider, Assassin and Caster than all three of them, and that's without any mastery. Mastery means jack shit, especially since a "master" can lose to a beginner due to just being overpowered.

>>161690344
You're literally arguing that because you've mastered using your own body you've mastered every skill your children knows.
Just because the Pegasus was born from her doesn't make it an extension of her own body.

>>161690551
Pegasus is not her child. Pegasus is her - she simply failed to divide him from her

Another example is Athena who was born from Zeus head being cracked open. She carries all of Zeus wisdom and is loyal to him

That's how Greek myth works.

>>161690661
Forgot to add that Athena is the only one who can weild Zeus lightning and Aegis because she is Zeus

Piccolo at the start of Z had blasted the moon to dust. Frieza in his first form could do the same to a planet 10x bigger than Earth. Enkidu might be anti-Divine but that doesn't mean it can hold Goku. Hell, Goku might win by just using his aura to deflect Gil's NPs back at him.

>>161690870
he can't deflect enkidu, goku already has divine ki even in base form thanks to SSJG mutation

>>161691574
He can use divine ki in base form, but it isn't immediately active

>>161685901
Gil without plot-induced stupidity should be able to insta-win. He has stupidly powerful precognition, and with his treasury, he should be able to easily just get something that nullifies life-force or some stupid shit like that. That's his purpose, he's a plot device level character who makes the protagonists look good by getting beaten, and he's only been getting more powerful (and retarded) with every incarnation.

Gilgamesh is fucking idiotic in these fights because his treasury is pretty much literally a NLF, and the only thing that holds him back is him being such a colossal dumbass.

"Oh? I can instantly analyze someone's magic before they even activate it? I can see all possible futures? I have a treasury filled with plot-device level weaponry that should automatically make me win any confrontation? A spear that acts like Gae Bolg's melee variant even when thrown? Lol I'm not gonna use any of that on this one ginger eleven even though I know he has the potential to become a Heroic Spirit in the future and can see the futures where he beats me, I'm so amazing."

>>161687320
let me guess you just watched the anime and didnt bother to actually learn about the character

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>>161686493

>>161685901
>discuss

Sure. Lets discuss how many nanoseconds Goku needs in order to forehead flick Gil into oblivion.

Sha Nagba Imuru, GG.

>>161692391
AH you got me! How could I ever have made that mistake

>>161691875
Emiya isnt a real heroic spirit tho

>>161694048
I didn't say that. I said that he had the potential, which he does. Emiya himself says that if he had done things a bit smarter, if he was a bit stronger, he might have made it onto the Throne on his own merits.

But in either case, Gil knew what Emiya was capable of, and he felt it was prudent to just shoot Emiya in the back, while he usually announces himself to all of his enemies.

>>161686609
>Redirects the vector of his universe being destroyed