>netflix adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in grimdark

>>161653120
>greatest
I'd put in on the level of Little Women. Literal moeshit.

>>161653120
I was quite disappointed with their adaptation too. I have no idea why they needed to have all those scenes with Anne's abuse or whatever. They are never gone into in detail in the books I guess it was more "gritty" that way or something.

>>161653188
Then you'd be wrong.

>>161653120
>>161653356
Wait, what the fuck? Are you guys serious?

>Canadians adapt Anne of Green Gables
>it's fucking excellent
Oh. My. GOD!

>>161653426
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/05/anne-of-green-gables-netflix-review-anne-with-an-e-bleak-sad-wrong

>>161653526
I remember watching an Ann of Green Gables TV show back in the 90's. Is that one? Because it was a pretty nice watch.

>>161653426
Entirely serious, one of the best things Isao Takahata has directed prior to founding Ghibli and Miyazaki was involved with the series too. It is widely respected among Japanese animators and critics as one of the best works of the medium.

>>161653585
Yep, it's great television.

>>161653581
Fucking hell, man. I loved the book and I loved Anne so much when I was a kid. I don't think I ever before or since related so hard to a character. To the depths of the hell with this.

>>161653588
Sounds pretty good. Might give it a watch one of these days.

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>>161653188
>moeshit

KIKOERU KASHIRA

>>161653120
>more anime adaptations of western classics.
Thinking of anything in particular?

>>161653837
Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita

>>161653120
>more anime adaptations of western classics
I wonder if WMT will ever come back?

Still waiting for Netflix's K-On!

>>161653782
It is one of the most faithful adaptations I have ever seen in anime. Don't think there is a single line or scene missing that I recall. The backgrounds are also beautiful. The book was put on the national curriculum in Japan in 1952 actually and they frequently get Japanese tourists to Prince Edward Island still today.

>>161653120
I'm pretty sure most intellectuals thought Netflix Death Note was an improvement on the anime/manga.

So, do you think Death Note is a Japanese classic?

>>161653901
Set in post apocalyptic France, with a bunch of speaking animals as main characters.
Because localization or something.

>>161653934
Just play the race card on these fuckers and tell them why do they think anime/manga which is an expression of Japanese culture is inferior to western styles of media.

Fight cancer with even more cancer.

>>161653581
>Gritty reboot of Anne of Green Gables
Maybe they should've attempted it with Pollyanna instead?

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>>161653934
>intellectuals
I don't know if this is bad bait or you making fun of SJWs.

>>161653120
I think this is more indicative of the era of television we're in now. WMT was designed to faithfully adapt these western classics for children, while Netflix was most likely trying shift the adaption to the post-Sopranos """golden age""" TV audience.

>>161654030
And they fight against zombies for the first three episodes; then they meet a group of asshole humans and the remaining twenty-three episodes are spent fighting those asshole humans because "man is the worst monster of all"

>>161654079
Fuck off back to /co/ cancer.

>>161653120
A FUCKING LEAF

>>161653120
>>netflix adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in grimdark feminist propaganda


Huh, did i missed something?

>>161654096
I think he just wanted to make a thread about WMT/Akage no Anne that would actually get responses and it seems to have worked.

>>161654246
Nextflix did an adaptation of Anne of Green Gables, they had like these dark scenes of her being violently abused instead of just leaving that in the background for some reason and she would suddenly have these PTSD like flashbacks and space out when talking to people. I stopped watching after a few episodes though to be honest. They had some preacher come in and tell Anne of all about how girls couldn't be anything and have Anne think it was bullshit and a Marilla attend a fucking feminist book club?

>>161654246
Yeah, the cancer that is post modernism.

>>161654096
You might think I'm being ironic but a shonen jump manga like Death Note was never highly revered among real anime critics so a movie that pretty much decides to go full camp spectacle and mock the source material makes for a much better experience than a pseudo-deep babby's first psychological fiction.

>>161653998
Sure it is, whether or not it's good is a whole other argument.

>>161654403
>real anime critics
>MAL faggotry

>You might think I'm being ironic
No, I'm just hoping that you are ironic for the sake of /a/.

>>161654799
What do you think that has to do with MAL? Japanese write academic papers and history books on this shit.

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Fuck you for reminding me the Netflix version exists.

Real fucking things in that show

Anne makes a big moral about NOT having kids in the Netflix show ("people have too many kids and hurt everyone!")
(Actual Anne goes on to have like fucking seven kids)

She has some big fucking speech about how she can help out in the farm as a much as a boy because feminism, which is weird because... she doesn't at all. In any version. Anne knows she's a girl.

Anne is the most generic feminist "icon ever". Anne voted Conservative all her life. The author was more of a "maternal feminist", which is feminist in name only and pretty much says "men and women are different".

The priest is a villain because of course he is. Anne was a Presbyterian.

God bless Japan's Anne.

>>161654908
>What do you think that has to do with MAL?
>MUH, critical consensus.

> academic papers and history books
On the "critical consensus" for mid 2000 anime?
Are you actually serious?
The biggest accepted critics for late night anime are the Otaking and a fucking porn author.
Both of them aren't even taken serious by the majority of core anime viewers.
Sites like MAL are the closest there is to a critical consensus.
Because like the King stated
> For every 1000 otakus, 50 become actual anime creators.
And the 950 who do not directly create anime still serve a vital purpose: they are vocal critics and connoisseurs who demand the very best of the 50 who do create.

It's even more funny that you talk about academic consensus, which is normally determined by the social sciences, which are filled with SJWs even in Japan.

>>161655507
Are you ok?

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>>161655393
I knew it was bad but not bad like that!
Almost makes me go watch out of curiosity...

>>161653881
They rather not.
They Better NOT

I would kill for a Ghibli version of The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien or an anime based on Candide by Voltaire.

>>161655393

Don't forget Matthew now has a love interest.

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>>161654403
what a tool lmao

>>161655692
Don't.

It's not even a pretty show. It's ugly as sin, which is unforgivable for a Green Gables show. There's nothing creative or interesting in it.

Honestly I recommend watching the western animated show. Or the Canadian series. Or anything else.

If you must, the first episode shows you literally all the problems. You only need to watch the first 20 minutes to feel disgusted at how ugly, boring and "dark" it is.

>>161653837

Ender's Game could be interesting, hollywood version was rushed as fuck.

>>161655796
This is missing Utena.

Every single pretentious cunt who pretends to like anime has masturbated over Utena. Especially the trannies.

It's weird. Trannies like two shows: Lain and Utena. I wonder why.

Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans

>>161655796
why is welcome to nhk in there?

>>161655951
Utena is a genuinely great series though. I don't see how anyone could hate it.

>>161656039
Read
>Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans

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>>161656073
This is literally just your subjective opinion though.
Also:
>caring about a fanbase
>ever
You're upset for no reason.

>>161656008
its part of an elaborate ruse yet underway

>>161653837
Dune

>>161656098
>someone saying that "Not all Utena fans are pretentious cunts, but all pretentious cunts are Utena fans" = "this show is bad"
Is this autism?

You know you can see patterns in the fans of a show without hating it, right?

Literally every opinion is subjective. It's not even an opinion, it's seeing a pattern in an audience. It's like saying "Sonic fans are autistic". It's a seeing pattern in the type of people who like Sonic.

>>161656212
Dune done by Satoshi Kon-era Madhouse would be great.

>>161653526
The Netflix Anne OP is talking about was produced by Canadians.

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All I remember about this show was the double VHS boxes.

>>161653120
Do people actually like Death Note or is it a meme? I am legit

>>161656571
It was one of the big entry-level series of the 00s, of course there are people who like it. It's not uncommon to see in the favourites of babby weebs. Last I checked, the general consensus on /a/ is that it's okay up until L dies and then goes full retard after.

>>161656571
Its pretty great in some moments until the second season rolls along and basically destroys it all, but hey the soundtrack had some good songs

>>161656735
Yeah that's the consensus most people I've found have in general. Didn't little babby weebs get kicked out of school for writing down names in their own death books? fucking lol

>>161656839
Is the second season around episode 15? I started watching it after the shitty movie and I liked it up until those episodes where I just kind of lost interest and thought it was dumb as hell

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>>161656924
what if I told you L was manufactured

>>161655393
Why the fuck are you talking about Anne as if she was a real person? I'm an islandfag, Anne was fictional and so is Avonlea.

>>161656979
Wasn't he left in an orphanage or whatever? Every weeb friend I've had throughout my life has always wet themselves over Death Note and explained to me the entire plot but I never really listened.
That would explain why L is so boring. He has no real character flaws.

>>161657068
>no real character flaws
I mean if you think a human like that can live in society just as easily as anyone else then sure

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>>161653120
>watch this no long after my dad passes away to Cancer
>get to the part with Matthew

That shit hit so close to home. I can't think of another anime that handled loss quite as well as Anne.

As someone who has read the manga and watched the anime, I liked the Netflix Death Note and felt that there was genuine love for the franchise. There were too many little moments that I could compare to the manga despite the story being original.
>Ryuk is basically identical as a character with the same motivations, but he's just comes off as more sinister in the movie
>Ryuk tells Light Yagami that he thinks he was the best possible person to pick up the Death Note, since Ryuk's goal is to be entertained
>Ryuk tells Light Turner several times to just give up the book. However, you can see that he favors Mia, who is far more like Light Yagami in characterization than Turner is, going by how she'll kill even innocents without remorse. By the end of the movie, Ryuk recites his "Humans sure are interesting" line after seeing Turner's Yagami-esque plan, which hints that Turner will become more like Light Yagami in potential sequels.
>Mia lies about what happened to Turner because she doesn't really care about him, only becoming interested after she sees what he can do with the Death Note, and eventually concocts plans to have Turner give ownership to her. Whenever Turner starts to doubt her, she uses his infatuation with her, much like how Light Yagami used Misa. She's willing to kill the FBI agents tailing Turner and Turner's dad, which were things that Yagami did/was willing to do to hide his trail.
>Light Turner isn't a genius like Light Yagami, nor is his popular. He's booksmart and easily inferior to L, and only by the end of the movie does he pull off a Light Yagami.
I was glad that the movie wasn't just a list of boxes to check off.
-Light finds Death Note
-First kills
-Ryuk introduced
-L introduced
-Shinigami Eyes
-Task Force (Soichiro, Matsuda, Aizawa, Mogi, Ide, Ukita) under L
-Second Kira
-Yotsuba Kira
-L dies
-Near and Mello teased

>>161653120
Netflix are just a distributor are they not? It's not as though they are a production studio.

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>>161657110
I mean, he is super intelligent and always finds a way to deduce situations. I'm completely for that, but as soon as he starts kicking Light and portraying him as this competent fighter, you've lost me. I'd be cool if he was super intelligent but was also detrimental to his health from obsessing in the case, not sleeping and only eating sweets.

>>161657063
Character Canon, decently consistent characterisation between versions.

Didn't think I talked her different from how people talk about Batman or Superman.

>>161657265
Didn't it air on CBC a few months before Netflix?
Wasn't really expecting this from them of all people.

What other world master piece theatre stuff should I check out besides Anne?

>>161657411
Heidi and Marco are essential, some people will recommend others but those three make up the series at its peak. Remi isn't true WMT but it's popular, would recommend if you are okay with Dezaki's style.

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>>161657411
Romeo

>>161657247
And I'm aware I'm in the minority. They should have called this "A Death Note Story" or "Death Note Gaiden" or whatever and not named characters (minus Ryuk) after the manga characters because people expected a pure adaptation.

Light should have been Lucas/Luke (or Luce pronounced as Luke if you want to copy the 月 (Tsuki; Moon) being read as ライト (Raito; Light) naming thing since it was a special snowflake name to begin with). Lucas/Luke/Luce all have the meaning of "light" and would be more of a nod to the original character than making people think it's supposed to BE Light Yagami. It also brings to mind Lucifer, who rebelled against God and tried to take the throne after turning the majority of angels against him. While apples in the manga were never meant to have religious significance, you could do something like that here with a Paradise Lost theme.

I think that "Mia Sutton" making you expect her to be the Misa Amane of the movie worked well because it hides the fact that her character is far more based on the original Light Yagami, so that should stay the same.

Ryuk should still be Ryuk since he's basically the same character.

L should have been X or something, but that still feels too on the nose.

I'm in favor of Watari remaining the same for the sake of the Luce pun, since Watari (渡り) means "ferry". Lucifer comes from "Lux Ferre" ("light ferry" or "light-bringer"), and seeing that as L's undoing would have been sweet wordplay.

>>161657499
>okay with Dezaki's style
>style
What the fuck does this even mean? How could anyone be against a masterpiece?

>>161657584
Like, he's pretty distinctive, and Remi has it in spades.

>>161657573
It being an adaptation was the problem in the first place. Should have been just a death note story and actually taken a look at how the death note situation would unfold in a different place (in this case, america). Instead we got this half-assed weird shitty thing that sucks.

>>161657411
Perrine is underrated.

Did akage no an ever get good translation? Back in the .avi days, I've watched eng subs from Chinese bootleg DVDs that were pretty horrible.

And why hadn't Japan adapted teacher / mom Anne yet? There were so many more books.

>>161653120
The only thing that I really disliked about the "adaptation" of Death Note is that they insist calling it an adaptation.
This Death Note is a whole another show inspired on the universe of DN, not an actual adaptation.

>>161657573
I was going to write more things on my post but you basically wrote what I was going to write. good job

>>161657667
I have no idea. It's weird they made a prequel anime instead of adapting the rest of the books.

I guess it's the loli appeal

>>161657411
All the ones that are translated. And then cry over the ones with no subs.

>>161653120
>feminists
women going to college should be illegal
economic consequences and fedora-tipping-accusations be damned

>>161657269
If it's okay for Sherlock Holmes I guess it's okay for him too.

>super smart dude who can also box, swordfight, and knows some bullshit martial art

>>161653588
It was also one of the reasons why Anne of Green Gables were a best seller in Japan

>>161657667
There is a version of Anne subs I put together timed for the BD release that seems to be the main one distributed now. It uses Silver Zero Subs for the majority of episodes which are much better quality then switches to the ones on the old version that used to be on bakabt somewhere near the tail end of the series. Silver Zero Subs still haven't completed the series though looks like they are up to the 40s.

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>>161653837
The Brother's Karamasov and pic related

>>161655951
Utena is a blatantly unapoloteically feminist show which ends with a literal liberation of the eternal feminine.

>>161657654
It wasn't an adaptation though. There were elements that were taken from the manga but it's very face value stuff for the most part.
There's a high school student named Light as the main protagonist. He's smart and finds the Death Note at school one day, soon using it to become Kira and rid the world of evil. His father is a police officer which gives access to classified police reports.
Light's girlfriend is Mi(s)a, who is also his accomplice.
There's an eccentric, reclusive detective known only as L. He's solved many unsolved cases easily, has a sweet tooth, squats instead of sits, and has Light's father join him on the Kira case.
L's handler since childhood is a mysterious man known as Watari.
Light's father doesn't want to believe his son is Kira and this puts tension between him and L.
Ryuk is pretty much exactly the same.

There's a one-sided infatuation between Kira and his accomplice, L has FBI agents tail the police suspects and their family members, L challenges Kira directly during a live conference, L determines that Kira is based in a certain region based on what he believes to be the first Kira killing being from a certain area, there are Kira worshipers, not all the police are on board with the Kira investigation, the Death Note is a book that can kill anyone written in it as long as the writer has their face in mind, along with other rules.

But watching the movie, you can see that there's a lot of original stuff that uses these elements to become its own thing, even the rules of the Death Note. All the rules are written in it from the beginning, and not all of them are the same as the rules in the manga. I was glad to have an original story with Death Note elements rather than a straight adaptation because there are already so many ways to experience the exact same Death Note story.

>>161657667
These are those subs I was talking about by the way
https://nyaa.si/view/764058

>>161657667
>>161658213
Also I forgot if you download the raw release it points to in the description that they are meant to be used with then you need to get episode 12 as well separately
https://nyaa.si/view/541744
I can't remember why but something is fucked up with the episode in the actual batch raw.

Though if you have access to bakabt or the other private trackers I am fairly sure those have the same subs with video in one torrent.

>>161657892
The only thing women have is their ability to be potentially interesting in a conversation in order to marry well. To be good hostesses and homemakers.

They need to go to college to learn how to child rear, etiquette and conversation skills. Men don't have time for that shit, but if you want to get anywhere, a wife who can hold a conversation in a social setting helps you.

I unironically read some woman write in like 1901 or something that forcing women into colleges meant for teaching male skills instead will only make them frustrated and bitter because they won't teach them skills they actually need (needlework, cooking, conversation) so they will be worst at such things and therefore relate to them negative, and will only enforce them to be inferior men. It was fascinating.

Hands down the best OP of the entire anime history.
https://youtu.be/DvdOwjC3rtE
ED is also GOAT. This anime is a miracle.

>>161653120
>Anne of green gables
>Grimdark
Just how weak minded you are?
Maybe feminazi shit, but grimdark? Come on...

>>161658444
Have you seen the Netflix series?

Grimdark is a pretty accurate descriptor.

I remember when when CBC was shilling their version by putting out that the writer of Breaking Bad was involved. That hint turned me away. Though I never knew it would be this bad if what you guys are saying it true.

>>161658444
If you hold it against the original text or the anime version it is fairly obvious that they've focused on making the story "gritty" and darker. Maybe calling it grimdark might be exaggeration a little bit but it definitely doesn't fit with the tone the work generally had and doesn't work with Anne's character at all. I think it shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the appeal of the material on behalf of the director or writers involved that they thought emphasising and inventing the abuse she may have faced in the past was a good idea. I mean when you are reading it or hear her reference those things yes you can probably assume she faced some pretty bleak situations in the past especially given historical context but the way they have put focus on it makes it like a core defining part of her character which isn't the intention in the original at all.

>>161658441
>OP is an ensemble
Jesus Christ I miss these OPs

>>161653837
Shakespeare

>>161653120
both are good, I liked the netflix version, as a kid anne was a great and happy book, but now as adult I realize that the only reason she was so happy and energetic was because she had a shitty life as a kid.

Netflix version is more realistic and actually show you how life was back then, you can see that in the details like the food, the house, the clothes and other things.

>>161653120
Sounds like typical USA vs Japan, USA loves shock and grimdark stuff to keep people interested and is scared of cute stuff being cute.

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>>161658801
>Netflix version is more realistic

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>>161658801
>Netflix version is more realistic

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>>161653120
>Kumeta adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in one of the greatest grimdark anime ever made

>>161658429
"even a steady demand for science teachers does not induce women to specialize in the subject"
>1913
>people have been trying and failing to get women into STEM since fucking 1913

>For three generations, we have given good trial to the theory that boys and girls should be educated on similar lines, and with what result? [...] a lower-grade shop girl can read and write but cannot sew or cook. As a wife and mother she is, with rare exceptions, a notorious failure. Her children survive chiefly through the increasing intervention of the State.
I forgot how good this article is.

Link: https://archive.org/stream/universitymagazi12mcgiuoft#page/258/mode/2up

>>161653837
Alice in Wonderlands and Through the Looking Glass.

>>161658113
And also The Brother's Karamasov, I would love to see a single good adaptation of it.

>>161659161
All I want is an anime Spider-Man.

I bet the nips wouldn't put niggers and spics in it outta nowhere.

>>161659201
I hope you watched Japanese live-action Spiderman.

>>161658518
So grimdark now is stuff that is not all colorfull?
In the past was the context that made a product grimdark. Not the lack of vivid colors in your face.

>>161653837
I would love to see oliver twist anime or tom sawyer.

>>161659362
They exist.

>>161659362
There's Tom Sayer already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8E7JlAFQQ

>>161659256
Anne gets PTSD-like flashbacks to her terrible childhood like twice an episode.

It absolutely tones down the optimism and joy of the book and all other adaptions.

One example that sticks out to me: when talking about her past with the Hammonds, in the Netflix series she goes on about how awful it is that people have so many children if they can't deal with them.

In the book, Anne says "I'm sure she meant to be kind, it was hard of her," pretty much an early display of her eternal love and optimism.

The character went through some traumatic experiences and retained her joy and ability to happiness, often through strange ways (over-fantasising, imaginary friends). It's a key part of her character. And they add some sort of pedophile plot, house fires. Netflix goes for PTSD flashbacks and bitterness.

That's pretty clearly "making it grimdark" in my opinion.

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>>161653837
Catch-22
No book has ever made me laugh as much as Catch-22 did.
Hell, I'd still be glad if they butchered the setting and made every major character a qt girl to make it more marketable just to get to see Orr being an idiot on purpose, the whole plump tomato shit between the chaplain and Cathcart, Doc Daneeka "dying" and Snowden dying.

I remember when I watched a The Three Musketeers adaptation on Netflix, saw the first episode and decided to never see another series from them again, looks like I made the right choice.

>>161659634
It wouldn't work, the entire book is about mocking the idiocy of bureuacratic authority gone insane, japanese culture is built around respecting authority, I doubt a japanese person would even understand why it's funny

>>161658093
Thanks for that, /a/non.

>>161655947
I was an extra on it. As a big fan of the book, it was a cool experience.

The biggest problem was how rushed the pacing was, but I think they tried.

>Not watching the dorama about the Japanese woman that translated Anne of Green Gables to Japanese, with music by Kajiura.

>>161657247
>Ryuk is basically identical as a character with the same motivations
He pushed Light to kill and then tried to make him give up the Note. He's passing the Note around and fucking the owners "Don't trust Ryuk".
Original Ryuk doesn't give a fuck, he's doing it out of boredom and for the laughs.

Movie Ryuk says humans are interesting because L wrote down Light's name and Ryuk is there to kill Light.

The Death Note is more of a Mind Control (and then some) Note than a book of death. Light literally writes "this person saves my life". In the fucking DEATH Note.

Those little moments were either accidental or checklist garbage. The only love for the franchise came from the L actor who bothered to read the original and wanted to play L and yet they told him to chimp out and act like an idiot, ruining everything he tried to accomplish.

>>161657573
>Watari
Wasn't even his real name. You're a damn moron.

>>161653837
>no one says the most important one
Lolita

>>161660252
Movie Ryuk has the same motivations, those motivations being killing boredom. He tells Turner to give up the Death Note because he understands that he won't go as far as he had hoped, while he expresses his like of Mia since she's willing to go all the way. This is like how Ryuk says Light Yagami possible candidate for getting the Death Note in the manga. While he never explains WHY he was the best possible candidate, it's easy to see that it was due to him being able to provide the most amount of enjoyment due to his high intelligence, creative plans, and willingness to kill anyone that gets in his way, guilty or not. Ryuk is like a stand-in for the viewer, and like the viewer of the Netflix movie, Ryuk is unsatisfied with how far Turner is willing to go. But the ending with the "Humans are interesting" line implies that he's taken a new interest in Turner and wants to see what he'll do next. The implication I got from that scene was that Turner was becoming more like Yagami, and that's where the next movie will lead. He still has the Death Note. L is still after him. He'll still get the death penalty if evidence is found of his wrongdoings. He was willing to kill L in the movie because he was getting too close for comfort.

>>161660275
What does Watari being his real name or his code name have anything to do with what I said? Either way, he's referred to as "Watari" (ferry). It's not some fanfiction name I or the movie just made up.

>>161660442
*says Light Yagami was the best possible candidate

>>161659503
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLW-0h4ESCo

>>161653188
Little witch is just moeshit done good for once anyways. Finally, an anime with actually tasteful pantsu shots.

>>161656924
>lol
Fuck off retarded

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>short hair Anne only lasts one episode

>>161653120
>West makes Count of Monte Cristo adaptation
>No giant robots
>West makes A Little Princess adaptation
>No giant robots

>>161660301
>(You)
The first reply, idiot.

>>161654316
>Nextflix did an adaptation of Anne of Green Gables, they had like these dark scenes of her being violently abused instead of just leaving that in the background for some reason and she would suddenly have these PTSD like flashbacks and space out when talking to people

That is retarded.

>They had some preacher come in and tell Anne of all about how girls couldn't be anything and have Anne think it was bullshit and a Marilla attend a fucking feminist book club?

More propaganda.

It's like they refused to acknowledge that Maud herself was just lukewarm towards feminist.

>>161660086
Literally the first 20 minutes of Shin Godzilla was spent mocking Japanese governmental beaurocratic autism, and that was one of the most popular Japanese movies of 2016.

>>161655393
>Anne makes a big moral about NOT having kids in the Netflix show ("people have too many kids and hurt everyone!")
(Actual Anne goes on to have like fucking seven kids)

Holy shit, are you serious? Anne wants lots of kids because she's fucking lonely. That's a point of her character! She wants a big family!

>Anne voted Conservative all her life

Only because Matthew did though. Gilbert voted Liberal.

>The priest is a villain because of course he is. Anne was a Presbyterian.

Maud poked fun on the church a lot though. There was a hilarious scene of one of Anne's kids in the sequel imagining an angry priest as a medieval Catholic inquisition er because he keeps talking about how certain kinds of people will go to hell.

She prefers the Church to lighten up, similar to what Dickens want.

>>161657247
Yep. I think it's a decent alternate take of the Death Note story.

>>161660975
It's funny because Monte Cristo with giant robots in space ends up being better than the movie adaptation somehow.

>>161657411
Lucy of the Southern Rainbow for the cutest lolis in the series.

>>161657666
This.

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>>161653877
Fuck yes this plz.

>>161660180
>no fansub ever

>>161657307
Sorry, I forgot that she voted in universe, and I guess I'm a little triggered by all of the nip tourists here asking,

"Where Anne live? Which way to Anne house?"

>>161655393
>She has some big fucking speech about how she can help out in the farm as a much as a boy because feminism, which is weird because... she doesn't at all. In any version. Anne knows she's a girl.

They got the French kid for that anyways.

>>161653837
The Heart of Darkness, since it's been adapted into a movie and a game already.

Also, seconding >>161658769

>>161661431
I think Annette from "Arupusu Monogatari Watashi no Annetto" is the cuter between the theatre series.
And she is probably the first shota/brocon yandere in anime.

>>161653837
Asimov's Foundation saga.

>>161660086
We are mocking and making fun of 1984 well enough despite living in it.

Likewise, the majority of people living in the Eastern Bloc were making fun of and ridiculing Russians and/or Communism.

People aren't blind to such obvious stuff even if they're a part of it. It's changing it that is the hard part..

>>161655796
>>161655951
>thinking any of those are even remotely pretentious
Can't tell if baiting or the shitiest taste i've encountered.

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>>161661666
>she is shota/brocon yandere

>>161653837
The Airtight Garage, but Katsuhiro Otomo
already tried.

>>161657499
>Marco are essential
You can definitely skip Marco. It ain't bad, but there is so much better.

>>161653837
Japan doesn't do this kind of thing anymore, sadly. They even tackled Snowhite along with other folkoristic and historical tales, but it's all in the past, unless you can prove the contrary.

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>>161653837
The 2015-16 Barclays premier league desu.

>>161653877
I'm picturing a more down-to-earth Spice and Wolf set in France with smug lolis, in which case take my fucking money.

It's Ann not Anne.

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>>161653837

>>161653837
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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>>161655393
Tell me the Netflix version had yuri at least.

>>161657269
>intelligent
Surely you mean has psychic abilities.
I mean, yeah, the first part was better then the second. but all of the "intellectual" game of cat and mouse in the show was complete bollocks.
They jumped to (correct) conclusions way too fast and without any reasonable evidence or deduction, and yet they kept being completely stupid in their actions.

>>161661484
Sounds like Sherlock Holmes

>>161653837
Wuthering Heights.

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>>161655701
Why? What's wrong with them?

>>161664792
I'm guessing rather than thinking there is anything wrong with them he doesn't think they would do a good job of them or that they would do well nowadays.

>>161655393
>all that shit
>critical response is high praise
This planet, etc.

>>161665139
Anne didn't get so much praise that I am aware of. Even this vanity fair review >>161653581 was calling it out for making it into some gritty feminist propaganda piece and missing the appeal of the series and what made Anne great.

>>161653581
What an embarrassing show.

>>161665208
According to wikipedo, vanity fair was one of the rather negative reviews. But generally it's liked:
>The series has achieved a rating of 87% on Rotten Tomatoes, the site's critical consensus stating: "Anne with an E uses its complex central character to offer a boldly stylish, emotionally resonant spin on classic source material that satisfies in its own right."[21] The series has received a rating of 79 on Metacritic based on fifteen reviews, indicating "generally favorable reviews".[22]

>>161665378
Well I guess that reviewer was one of the only ones that reviewed it with a real appreciation of the material. I mean if you didn't know the story and characters and have a previous attachment to them beyond doing a bit of research for your review for a job I doubt you are going to be anywhere near as frustrated with the portrayal.

>>161665208
>>161665139
>>161665378
Ghostbusters 2016 still has a 73% on Rotten Tomatoes. Critics are shit.

Reasons Anne with an E has a high score: pandering to popular feminism talking points, "it's dark and edgy, it's for adults and I can enjoy it now!'

>>161653837
Honestly? The Gunslinger by Stephen King. I haven't seen the recent adaptation, but I think it's pretty clear the consensus is that it sucks. An adaptation relies on visuals and subtle character building would no doubt be better than one that focused on big name actors.

>>161653837
Lord of the Rings but make everyone a cute girl. And then you got yourself the greatest yuribait of all time too.

>>161653837
Crime and Punishment

>>161665666
I like the way you think, Satan.

>>161665697
>Crime and Punishment with lolis
>loli MC stole the cake

>>161653837
The Metamorphosis.

>>161659201
Like the one in Full Metal Panic? I'd watch that.

>>161663253
>but it's all in the past
True, and with the current trend of daytime anime dying, it isn't likely to happen again in the next decade.

>>161665666
How would Gimli be made a cute girl? I'm trying to visualize a squat, beardy dwarf made moe and I'm having difficulty.

>>161666016
Your pick between shortstack or loli.

>>161659554

Close, but no dice.

I have a lot of problems with that show but calling it grimdark feminist propaganda is pure autism.

>>161666129
For laughs, make the hobbits shortstacks and dwarves loli. But still have the dwarves be beardy in word and deed (but not in beard).

>>161653120
>netflix adapts Anne of Green Gables, results in grimdark feminist propaganda
I can see that, I guess. I really liked the first two episodes though, right up until Anne signs the family book. Netflix one should've ended right there.
I assume the books do a much better job at her adorableness and endless chatter with big words?

>>161653120
Do people actually like the anime adaptation? It was probably some of the most annoying borefeasts I've ever watched.

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>>161665666
Finally an excuse to post this.

>>161666016
>>161666529
Okay, I can picture it now. Sakura Kinomoto exclaiming "you have my axe!" and demanding not to be tossed. I like it.

>>161668028
Don't post lesbians in Anne threads

Trapp Family Story and Anne were both fantastic, and I only got to watch them recently.

>>161663292
That's not what Lolita was about.
Lolita took place in America, and it was about a smug Englishman kindapping his step daughter after the homely woman he married got to get to her got hit by a car.

He coerces her into staying with threats and gifts until he loses her, attempts to kill some pedo who also wants her then goes to jail. Lolita dies as a teen during childbirth and H.H. dies in jail.

I have no idea why so many people seem to think Lolita is Loli Venus in Furs, when the titular character is nowhere near in control or truly aware what's happening to her at any time.

Also, it's chock full of cringey purple prose on account of the narrator being incredibly full of himself. He c

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>>161653837
Notes from the underground

Carmilla~~

Oh right, Daddy Long Legs was fantastic too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W206LjuX6I

>>161668173
>Englishman
He was French, he just wanted to not go to Europe because he wanted to stay with Lolita

>>161658113
I think i agree on that.
Many of the early modernites wrote extremely interesting works, and Kafka is still one of the better.
I just don't think western animation is artsy, or deep enough: To try to tackle something that is surreal without being surreal.

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Pig tails are such an underrated hairstyle.

>>161668437
>>161665909
Oh shit, almost forgot: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDjmW-gIsKs

>>161668173
I think if an anime adaptation is to be, it has to be very stylish to reflect the beauty of the prose.

>>161668365
My bad. It's been a while since I read it.

>>161668482
Need long hair for that mate, not in the current age.

>>161653188
>moeshit
Fuck off, summerfag.

>>161668356
I don't think I have ever watched a WMT I disliked. Just liked some more than others.

James Bond would work so well as an anime. With the recent James Bond films, even a shitty adaptation would be an improvement of the franchise.

>>161653120
Why are they continuing to remake Anne when perfection has already been reached?
How is "Before Green Gables"?

>>161656212
what about jodorowskys dune

>>161668639
Literally just watch/read Golgo 13 you fucking pleb.

>>161668799
Dumb frogposter.

>>161658801
>Netflix version more realistic

Why do you want fiction to be realistic? Is the real world not enough for you?

>>161668818
Thanks for reinforcing my point. There are plenty of other works in this style (you fucking pleb), because Japan has to make all male MCs either grown up men of steel or whiny teenage faggots.

>>161668697
Not enough will to actually just license the series as it is, and then have enough ambition to do a different good series.
Ambition is a hard thing, because directors/adapters only get boners from adapting already existing work, mostly so they can jack off to it, if its good.

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>>161668963
>Japan has to make all male MCs either grown up men of steel or whiny teenage faggots
watch more anime

>>161668253
Carmilla could work and maybe even sell well

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>>161669109
What if they did the entirety of In a Glass Darkly? The rest is pretty underrated

I want them to adapt Dickens' works just for the girls.

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>>161653837
In search of lost time would be good, especially with all the lesbians and NTR

I am pretty sure that Utena is inspired by it one way or the other, especially since they both have qt lesbians and are both written by dick-sucking homo-fags

>>161655796
>all these kids watching watered down "cyberpunk"
>none of them have even read any of the classics of the genre nor would understand half the terminology or philosophy
Cyberpunk anime is trash

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>>161657892
>>161658429
>>161659095
>It is only when we recognize that homemaking is the normal occupation of the average women in her own interests and in the interests of the race, that we shall be able to devise an education for girls which will really prepare them for womenhood
Can't tell if bitter, crying over segregation, or if the statement is profoundly wise.
I would like to mention that one of her ideas for the letter, is to subtly give a snide against low birth families(2-3 kids), because it erodes inside family bonds by being such a weak quantity.
I would not say she is moderate either, just that she hates the idea of horrible education paths with no jobs.

>>161666345
If you want a successful thread on 4chan all you gotta do is mention feminism.

>>161671826
It is kind of crazy to see a thread about Anne go this long to be honest.

>>161666345
But even Vanity Fair calls it that.

>>161668697
>How is "Before Green Gables"?
The adaption itself is fine, but the starting material just wasn't very good.
It definitely feels like fanfiction, Anne's character is exaggerated and almost a parody of herself, the pacing and kind of naration are completely different from the original and it relies on countless contrivances to keep the story going and prevent Anne from getting adopted by the dozens of people whose lives she basically saves.
That said it still has some good moments and as I said it's a good adaption, with some gorgeous backgrounds, so I'd still suggest you to watch it.

>>161670165
It's weird how they adapted some absolutely obscure childrens novels but never Dickens.

>>161653581
Good lord that site is unpleasant to read with those unstoppable gifs.

>>161673098
It is a co-production with the west but Topcraft did animated A Christmas Carol under the title "The Stingiest Man in Town" the majority of the staff were nips.

>>161673127
This is the future of "journalism". Aren't you excited?

>>161673127
http://penguin-empire.com/

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>>161665666
Satan has spoken.

>>161673745
>dead franchise
>site still up

>>161653120
I vaguely remember this book series. What's it about again?

>>161674588
Spirit and fire and dew

Princess Sara > the rest.

>>161662814
It's bait.

>>161662675
good suggestion love you anon keep doing the right mate

>>161653837
The Iliad when? Its already anime-like

>>161653901
>Yui is a girl who feels stupid and has attachment issues because her parents abandoned her and her sister.
>Ritsu and Mio are hardcore lesbians.
>Mio is a drug addict.
>Mugi is black.
>Azuna is gone entirely.
>Its about teens who feel different stuggling in a world that doesn 'T understand them as they take out their stress through music.

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>>161662814
>being this butthurt

>>161670502
>baiting this hard
what, you've put Neuromancer on a pedestal? nice criticism! original!

>>161674588
Cute FUCKING LEAF Girls Doing Cute FUCKING LEAF Girl Things

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>>161653788
>>161660602
>>161668563
YotsubaC would be proud

>>161661431
>Lucy of the Southern Rainbow
No subs.
>>161661666
Annette is cute, yes, but she almost drives her best friend into suicide and that's not cute.

>>161680905
>No subs.

I could only understand around 50% of the conversation and I still watch it just fine.

>>161653585
>Ann
>no e
Why do you have such an unromantic mind?

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>>161653837
this one

>>161668356
Daddy Long Legs is very good, with good characters (like Julia, she surprised me), but damn... that sick "pedophile" end. At the start I couldn't believe that they would really go with that bullshit, but they did.
Sometimes WMT have these little problems, like for example the father in Trapp Family. What he does with Yvonne in the entire series is garbage, really shitty character imo.

>>161655796
Nice bait (you)

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>>161661431
>Lucy of the Southern Rainbow for the cutest lolis in the series.
I can't find this show, no matter where I look. I bet the private trackers have it.

>>161681990
I'm really annoyed at myself for never bothering to make a serious bakabt account now. They do have an invite system where you can interview on IRC not really gotten around to putting in the effort though. All the while they have releases on their site I contributed work for.

>>161681089
It'd work great because the book is already an episodic comedy adventure ala Samurai Champloo/Cowboy Bebop

>>161681990
bbt doesn't.

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>>161682315
Then all hope is lost.

>>161682315
>>161681990
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kY0VxbhB!WFxHJUHdKGV9d3fdQSftsg

>>161682429
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!kY0VxbhB!WFxHJUHdKGV9d3fdQSftsg
jsyk they implemented actual DL limits now so this is pretty useless

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>>161682452
You're amazing!
>implemented actual DL limits
I don't mind downloading a few at at a time for a couple of days. And thank you!

>>161682595
Fun fact. I actually salvaged that link from some forum in the boonies that now had closed down. So if you search for it now, you won't be able to get it.

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>>161682429
You don't happen to have "A dog of Flanders", now do you kind sir?

>>161682621
> link from some forum in the boonies that now had closed down.
I'm pretty lucky to have woken up and opened up retro anime thread. Thanks again!

>>161682711
Nope. Isn't that one on Bakabt?

>>161682750
You're welcome!

>>161682803
sure does.

>>161682803
>>161682846
>Bakabt
No word on the invite system being implemented yet?

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Alice anime when?

>>161683106
not for users, but irc.

>>161683212
Only if Shaft is the one doing it.

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>>161668521

I feel like any adaptation of Alice in Wonderland today will inevitably have some "twist" forced by the producers to differentiate it from all the past adaptations i.e-the Tim Burton movie with Johnny Depp.

>>161683212
>>161683505
I'm surprised they haven't adapted that. Maybe it has something to do with Disney?

>>161653120
Anne of Green Gables MEME50 hentai doujinshi when?!

>>161658813
>USA
Wasn't the netflix version made by Canadians?
>>161653120
The anime adaptation of the white fang book is better than the cartoon and the original book.

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>>161683627

>>161654143
Then they all convert to Islam

>>161658046
Well, one of them, at least. Anne of Green Gables was already a Japanese best seller well before the 1979 anime came around, although the anime being quite popular didn't hurt sales any.

One of the best parts of the anime series is that it's basically the only adaptation of Anne of Green Gables ever made that faithfully adapts nearly everything. Even the old Megan Follows miniseries squishes and trims and rearranges vast numbers of pages to fit the running time, while just about the only thing the anime doesn't cover is Anne's panicked dash through the Haunted Wood. And yet it still finds time to put the apple story from Emily of New Moon in there instead.

Anne of Avonlea could have made a good anime series.