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WHAT SHAPES MY SOUL (NASU KINOKO, ON IKUHARA KUNIHIKO)

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https://wakameparadise.wordpress.com/2017/08/20/nasu-ikuhara/

(From “Eureka” September 2017 special issue Ikuhara Kunihiko: “Revolutionary Girl Utena”, “Mawaru Penguindrum”, “Yuri Kuma Arashi”… Our Revolution and Survival Strategy)

Interview with Nasu Kinoko / Interviewer: Aoyagi Mihoko

THE LINGERING SCARS OF “REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA”

—How did you first encounter Ikuhara’s work?

Nasu: My first Ikuhara work was “Revolutionary Girl Utena”. As a creator in my forties, the media I experienced from my teens to my twenties has left permanent scars on me. The first shock I experienced was “Neon Genesis Evangelion”. It had everything that appealed to me, so I naturally took both damage and influence from it. While I was still reeling from “Eva”, along came “Martian Successor Nadesico”, and then “Utena”. I was assaulted by a barrage of brilliant, highly charismatic anime in those days.

—What was your impression of the first episode?

Nasu: My friends (all men, naturally) kind of reflexively rejected it: “What the hell’s with this artstyle?!” I was used to shoujo manga, so my first impression was “I like these character designs. But I guess it’s true that they’re a bit too aesthetic for anime…” I wasn’t too resistant to it probably because I loved Takemiya Keiko’s “Toward the Terra”.

But once I actually watched it, it wasn’t the artstyle but the subject matter itself that was in a completely different cultural field, and I couldn’t wrap my head around it. And yet I couldn’t help but watch it again and again. Behind the aesthetic and abstract world it presented at first glance was something very sensitive and allegorical. From its very first episode, “Utena” boldly opted to take things that normally the viewers would demand to have explained to them and express them while remaining abstract.
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>>161610187

—”Express them while remaining abstract.”

Nasu: Yes. “Utena”, “Mawaru Penguindrum”, and “Yuri Kuma Arashi” all have something definitive at their core, and it’d be possible to definitively state “this means such-and-such”. But once you say that, it’s all over. If you turn to someone who’s struggling with something “abstract” and tell them your own subjective conclusion, all you’ve done is push someone else’s viewpoint on them. It’s very difficult to convey an image while keeping it as-is. Communicating abstract concepts while keeping them as such is something Director Ikuhara has been doing since back then.

“Utena”‘s dialogue was sensitive and abstract, but the direction and art were all so vivid. The imagery of the shell representing the world was so powerful, it was like I’d seen an amazing work of art—that may be an exaggeration, but that feeling overcame me when I watched the first episode, and it got me hook line and sinker. The “Zettai Unmei Mokushiroku” stock sequence played, there was a battle, the ending theme played, and I thought with certainty, “This is a masterpiece. But it’d probably be impossible to explain how amazing it is to ten people and have all ten of them understand.” I think now that the people who hold this work in their heart forever are either the female viewers who likely share the same gender-related hardships, or the people who think “I want to create something, I want to express something”. Once you’ve been shown something like this, you can’t ignore it. It felt like peeping on someone’s secrets, like I’d seen something I shouldn’t have.
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—Are there any specific episodes that left an impression on you?

Nasu: I love the “Black Rose arc”. It fits the whole kishotenketsu structure into one episode. Professor Nemuro (Mikage Souji) says “The path before you has been prepared”, there’s a fight scene, Utena wins, the coffin falls into the incinerator… Those repeating scenes were a lot of fun. Once I began writing scripts for anime, I understood even more clearly how amazing that structure was.

The stock sequences and the Black Rose arc’s structure arose from the creators having constraints on what they were able to do. Ikuhara-san may say that he just felt like if they had to use stock sequences he might as well make them fun to watch, but how many people do you know of who could actually pull that off? Today’s anime industry is so advanced that you can make a 22-minute episode without any stock sequences. Back then there were fewer people, very few digital tools, and it wasn’t like you could just Google for resources. It’s astounding that he was able to create something so perfect in that environment. He’s superhuman, no joke. While I’m sure this is the case in all the arts, the people from the previous generation must have gone through twice as much hardship as us. The creativity that arises from a lack of resources produces something with such density, it’s beyond our wildest imaginings.

THE VILLAINS OF IKUHARA’S WORK ARE “COMPLETELY EVIL, YET THE MOST PITIFUL”
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Whoever wants to read the rest, click on the link.
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>>161610187
I find it kind of depressing how there was a whole magazine dedicated to Ikuhara with interviews of him and a bunch of people who worked with him on projects, and yet the only one I've seen mentioned on /a/ (with three separate threads I've seen dedicated to is now) is the one with a completely unrelated eroge writer.
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>>161610187
How can you be this inspired and just end up making porn.
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>>161610788
Well FSN is a downright rip-off of Utena to begin with so he obviously has things to say about it
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>>161610788
They ultimately decided to make a eroge because they thought people wouldn't buy it if it was a simple VN.
Also, reminder that F/SN was first released in 2004, at the time eroge were much more common than regular VNs.
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>To the lovable fools who thought “I’m going to step into this industry”, Ikuhara-san is the brightest star in the sky. Forever.

How is the mushroom so fucking cute
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>>161611572
He can't be cute when he is responsible for the cancer known as FGO
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>>161611607
>responsible
>when he only wrote like 1/4 of the story
I honestly don't get why people hate on FGO so much.
It's not like Type Moon was going to do anything else anyways.
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>>161611728
And thanks to FGO TM is sure of doing nothing else
Also it's a fucking soshage, that by itself make it a horrible shit, and Nasu is the boss of Type Moon

And don't go at me trying to defend soshage please, it's just fucking gambling except you only get fucking pictures in return.
Freemium shit attack the weakest part of a human brain acting like a drug, people who play them are just gambling addicts who end up ruining both their schedule and their wealth.
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>>161611484
If he was really interested in creative freedom he would just write a novel wouldn't he? You're already appealing to a (more) niche market by making VNs in the first place. It feels like an eroge from the ground up.
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best girl!!!!!!
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>>161611931
>It feels like an eroge from the ground up.
Strange, my thoughts on it were completely opposite. The sex scenes felt really forced and out of place, except for maybe the HF ones.
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>Since I’m a man, the fact of the heroine who had protected her chastity up until that point suddenly having sex with Akio-san—didn’t inspire much of an unpleasant feeling in me, actually.
She was raped, Nasu.
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FSN spin-off written and directed by Ikuhara when?
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>>161614313
Citation needed
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Nasu is the Best!!!!!!
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>>161611728
He wrote more than half actually
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