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Jesus, the 1999 version of Hunter x Hunter is HORRIBLE.

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cant believe this is the same source material as the 2011 version. So bad.
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>>161609453
What's bad about it?
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>>161609453
The GI OVAs don't count. I don't even think they were made by the same staff.
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One of the many victims of the early digital transition.
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>>161609453
I agree, the animation quality, art consistency, use of color and the OST are far inferior and all the filler is very annoying.
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GI OVAs are pure shit, don't even bother with it. On the other hand, the 99s highest point are the Yorkshin OVAs.
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>>161610647

The music is especially mediocre in comparison.
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>>161610647
There are like 3 filler episode and all of them were good
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>>161611014
I love 99 but the filler with the girl on the airship and with Killua fucking with the foxbear on Whale Island was absolute dogshit
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>>161611104
>Killua fucking with the foxbear on Whale Island
Gon is not a foxbear.
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>>161611104
But the filler with the extra hunter exam and with the elevator girl are really good.
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>>161609453
In comparison to the manga at the time, it's easy to see why people would have been fine with any garbage
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It wasn't that bad.
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>>161609453
>99 is horrible
>posts OVAs made on 2003 that are not even made with the same techniques
Everyone agrees the G.I OVAs are bad.
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>>161609453
>GI OVA counting
Eh, I still liked them
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TIME TO JUMP
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>>161615080
Are you the guy who memes about Basho's jump?
If you think it's ridiculous i'm curious to know your opinion on how Killua jumped while fighting the wheelchair dude in 2011.
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>>161615080
when I watched HxH I genuinely thought Kurapika was a girl

first gender bender experience
and it got only worse from there on
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reminder
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>>161616997
Me too. I was convinced. Made my dick sad.
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>>161617252
jesus it was fine while I was watching it but now the 2011 version looks terrible
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Kurapika is cute.
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>>161616997
>>161617338
Well, he is a very girly trap.
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>>161617639
>bishounen
>trap
Get the fuck out
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>>161617926
>Kurapika
>Not a trap
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>>161617252
reminder
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>>161618398
>being retarded enough to believe kurapika is a trap
Faggot
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>>161619171
Anyone who dares to say that 1999 is better should neck themselves.
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>>161617252
This sums it up pretty much.
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>>161617252
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>>161617252
>>161620953
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>>161620968
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>>161610961
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn5KCWvcFnY
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I agree that 2011 becomes better, but 99 is much superior during the Hunter Exam. I've heard a lot of people who've only watched the 2011 version and swear by HxH, and yet they still say to just endure the boring first arc when they recommend the show.
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The newer one was better except for the York Shin arc. That shit was atmospheric as fuck in the 1999 version.
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>>161610961

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l_x9R6yAxQ

This is the problem with hxh 2011's music. It doesn't fit the mood at all. Hisoka's theme is a perfect example. This is not who Hisoka is, at all.
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>>161611395
>the extra hunter exam
The island of sunken ships? It was fucking great.
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>>161620953
still cant believe this show ripped off saitama
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>>161621204
I feel dumb for not noticing this until now; why would they complain about 3 filler episodes otherwise?
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>>161621272
Spic dub of 99 gave Hisoka a French accent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8tmk7vyqM
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>>161621278
I'd say it was the only part of the hunter exam that wasn't shit up to that point.
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>>161619235
He did crossdress once and we're talking about togashi here, who attempted to make a trap manga before hxh and before the genre took off like it is now. I bet the failed attempt would be quite succesful now.
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Do all of the GI ovas look bad, or just the Final ones? I seem to remember the first couple of episodes being decent.
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People who shit on 1999 are 2011kiddies who think they're hot shit because they can go online and watch 2011 and suddenly they feel it's a deep show by CA. Basically it's their Catcher and the Rye and anyone who attacks it attacks their ideals and beliefs.

2011 is an example of every problem I have with anime today, while 1999 had some integrity with its presentation.
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>>161617252
>>161620953
>>161620968
>>161620980
If nothing else, the 99 series benefits from superior directing.
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>>161621441
Its early digital, but theres much worse. The real issue is how long it is. They apparently had to make a number of episodes though, so they stretched GI way too long. I generally start 2011 at greed island after watching 99 and the yorksin ovas. 2011 failed to even reveal kite until after, and has much shittier animation in comparison to 99 and the ovas, but the greed island ovas last much too long. Coincidentally, greed island is the only time when 2011s atrocious ost actually fits the scenes. I wiish they just took the OST from 99, because god damn is it awful.
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>>161620953
1/2
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>>161621515
Your webm reminded me of the retards who memed the smears of those scenes as if smears were a sign of bad animation.
And yeah, 99 is far superior until GI.
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>>161621619
2/2 lol
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>>161611014
Don't be fucking obtuse. Only 3 episodes were pure filler, but everything else is still a quarter to half filler content.
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>>161621515
damn, I regret watching the 2011 version. Left me with a bad impression and made me lose interest
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1999 = FMA = Hellsing

2011 = FMA:B = Hellsing Ultimate
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>>161621718
99>11
FMA:B>FMA
Don't know about Ultimate, though.
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>>161621620
I don't have any problems with '99 GI. I felt Biscuit was handled better there as an older sister-type who still had an immature streak to her vs. the bratty moeblob know-it-all of 2011. Plus, her design there actually got the point of what she's based on.
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Greed Island OVAs aside which were universally hated, I have never understood the dislike for 99. For a show with a tv budget it had very good animation, fantastic direction, and for as little as it covered it covered it much better than the 2011 version. That being said I was never that big on Naruto being the voice of Gon, and the ost was often hit or miss.
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>>161621649
Aside from the pure filler episodes, the only filler I remember is little orphan Annie (which was pretty decent) and that guy who was hanging out with them before the actual exam in one of the first episodes and pretended to twist his ankle to get a piggy back ride.
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>>161621692
only started watching 2011 for the ant ark
and I'm glad I skipped the stuff before

but similar to your experience with hxh
for me it was full metal alchemist where I had that feeling

still don't know why people are shitting so much on fma before the reboot
sure, when they caught up with the manga it turned wonky, but
the first part was well made and way more detailed
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>>161621649
Add on to that, the 'filler' added more to the characters and made you give a shit about them. Leorio especially is handled better than he is in 2011.

>>161621795
>That being said I was never that big on Naruto being the voice of Gon
Other way around, HxH came before Naruto.
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>>161621894
>Other way around, HxH came before Naruto.

I know but I only saw HxH years later after the dub for 99 had already come out. So my mind associated it with naruto first.
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>>161621804
Then you have a shit memory. I haven't watched it in about two years, but I can confidently say there was filler on the boat, filler during the pre-test with the transforming creatures, the entire first stage of the Hunter Exam was completely changed and dragged out, filler on the airship with the girl going after Killua that also completely changed some events from the manga, and all the fights during the final tournament except Gon vs. Hanzo were filler.
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>>161621894
>Add on to that, the 'filler' added more to the characters and made you give a shit about them.
Kurapika was fine and your mileage may vary on Leorio (I dislike giving Leorio added angst since I like that he's not that kind of guy, but that's my opinion), but Gon and Killua were butchered.
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>>161621913
Confession: Same here.

>>161621964
>filler during the pre-test with the transforming creatures
Um, the Kiriko are canon.

>>161621992
I'm mostly taking about the hallucination tree that triggered his flashback, and the episode where Killua came to Whale Island. The latter showed Killua a look in Gon's life and also how different their lives are. A good way to show how their friendship was, rocky but optimistic.
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>>161610714
99 yorkshin absolutely nails the atmosphere of it.
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>>161622121
Not to mention fantastic visuals that really make use of having an OVA's budget
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>>161622090
Obviously they are canon, you dipshit. A bunch of the content of the episode was added for the anime.
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>>161621913
I wasn't aware that 99 even came to the states, let alone was dubbed.
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>>161622162

Funimation didn't advertise much that they dubbed it, even though they made a killing off of YYH and this was by the same author. By the standards of the time when the dub came out, it was ok, but it has almost no one of note in the english cast. Which might have worked somewhat in its favor because at least they didn't sound like the same people the company always used. I remember Kurapika's dub voice being awful though, even by the standard /a/ makes of all dubs being bad, he was still really bad.
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>>161622159
No shit, the anime was in production at the time of the manga still getting off the ground. Of course they add material to fit twenty minutes in. I'd rather that than drag on an episode with explanations and mouthflaps.

All anime does that, all anime should do that. A 1:1 transcription never works, you have to take some liberties if you want a product that stands out.
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>>161609453
dumb madhousefag
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>>161622247
I don't care if you think it's good or not. Saying "there's no filler in 99" is just an unequivocally false statement.
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>>161622293
Not him but i don't see anyone claiming that
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>>161622244
Ocean Group dubbed '99. And as for the voices, I like that Gon sounds like an actual twelve year-old borderlining on puberty, Killua sounding like a brat, Kurapika isn't bad, compared to the 2011 VA who sounds too sultry and Leorio sounds much better than whoever's doing him in 2011.

A big one is Hisoka, he sounds good in '99 but sounds too smarmy in 2011. Worse, apparently his '99 VA wanted to come back to the new show.

>>161622293
I didn't say '99 didn't have filler, just that the Kiriko weren't filler. Maybe you should have worded your post better.
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>>161622349
>Ocean Group dubbed '99.
Oh, my mistake
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>>161619246
2011 was one of the worst animes I've ever watched. How terrible is the 1999 one? Is it at least better than naruto?
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>>161622349
>A big one is Hisoka, he sounds good in '99 but sounds too smarmy in 2011
he is smarmy though

guy walks around with a shitty grin and likes to annoy at times
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Someone please post Kalluto of 99. I've never so in love with a drawing as with that one.
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>>161622344
>>161622349
see >>161621804. You know, the post I was actually responding to, but I guess it's too hard to thread up.
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>>161617487
Who is this cute girl?
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>>161622349
Speaking of Hisoka
>the scene in 99 when Gon steals his badge and Hisoka goes insane
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>>161622426
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>>161620968
2011 kurapika is so ugly
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>watching dubs
I want nu-/a/ to leave
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>>161622471
Who are you quoting?
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>>161622430
That was another anon, then.
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>>161622430
>"Aside from the pure filler episodes"
>mentions other filler
???
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>>161622448
My wife (male).
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>>161622559
So pure
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>>161622409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHc1kB4u2AY
3:10. He sounds smarmy, but in a subtle way. 2011 sounds OVERLY smarmy. Should have clarified.
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>>161622460
T-Then who is this?
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>>161620980
the music and the sound in 1999 are so fucking good. I love the kurapika vs ubougin fight so much

The new version was dogshit in comparison
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>>161622746
the conclusion of that ark
well, that whole ark was meh
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>>161622622
Kalluto was so much cuter the first few times Togashi drew him but he was the epitome of "draw a girl, call it a boy"
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>>161620980
ok, this is the only time where the 2011 version outdoes the 99 version. The Uvogin fight was so much beter than the 99 version, and was more clomatic.
The black and white in the end as judgement chain activated really brought out the red of the blood Uvogin spit along with Kurapika's scarlet eyes. That whole sequence of the 2011 one was fantastic. It felt like "this is the begining of Kurapika's Vengeance" A great end for a great foe.

In the 99 version the fight just ends so simply when judgement chain activates. It was way less cathartic. 2011 had a lot more tension. Uvogin dropping dead had weight in the 2011 one.
The only reason why the I assume people would defend the 99 Uvogin fight would be the callback to the blood dripping moon Kurapika shared in his hallucination that is exclusive to the 99 version here >>161620968
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>>161622620
i think its because the 2011 voice is deeper and a bit more drawn out
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>>161622818


>him
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>>161621515
That scene is beautiful.
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>>161621515
>m-muh sakuba smears!
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>>161622620
I felt like 2011 made Hisoka a bit too much like the joker, when i watched 99 he felt more deranged and intimidating
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>>161623024
>i watched 99 he felt more deranged and intimidating

so, like the Joker?
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>>161623014
I literally only noticed it because you pointed it out.
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>>161621515
Hanzo is soo dead in the current arc.
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>>161623057
Not every jester/clown/harlequin is the Joker, and I hate that he's the catch-all face of that archtype. The two have very little in common.
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>>161623057
Please no. That's middle school tier.

>lee random and nihilist chaotic JoKer XDDDD upbotes pls
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>>161623268
>the killing joke

Next time you are gonna show me a Wisecrack video, won't you?
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>>161623460
But of course
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It's far better than the 2011 version. The only "problem" with the 1999 version is that there was no Chimera Ant arc to adapt.
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>>161623770
If 99 did CA I doubt the pacing would be great but I'm sure the visuals would be amazing.
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I haven't watched either anime, only read the manga. Am I missing anything decent?
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>>161624394
No
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>>161624394
If you read the manga, 2011 is just a dragged out version of the manga and it switched things with Kite for the worst. 1999 follows the first chapter correctly, while adding some of its own things in the mix. I'd say give 1999 a go if only because it's different and stands out more.
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>>161623268
Bring your capeshit back to /co/.
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>>161623770
Greed Island was complete shit in 99 and Heaven's Arena was also a bit weaker, IMO. Also lots of filler.
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>>161624394
Watch the 1999 version and read the manga from Chimera Ants onwards.
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>>161624683
>lots
There it is again, people who think added/expanded scenes = filler.
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>>161621272
>spanish pussy popping music
>not suiting Hisoka more than that quiet final fantasy theme they gave him in 1999
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>>161625079
Surprise, a '90's series using '90's elements for its music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZdksS-h0ms
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These are stock editing software sound effects, right? The G.I OVAs are truly shit.

https://a.pomf.cat/bdiyci.webm
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>>161625144
don't get me wrong thing, I think 1999 has the more fitting music than 2011 most of the time, but Hisoka's theme is not on of them.
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>>161625259
jesus, I remember thinking the GI OVA was fine when I watched it
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>>161625579
You mean the track from Vol. 2 of the '99 OST? Admittedly, that was an odd pick considering where it's used, and there's plenty of other tracks that fit him better like Scar kisu or It Might Be a Trap.

Though Elastic Love (Bungee Gum) in Vol. 3 sums him up perfectly.
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>>161620968
this always turns me on
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>>161609453
Can someone that considers HxH a masterpiece explain to me why it makes you feel like its a masterpiece?
No, this is not a passive agressive question, I'm actually curious.
I watched the whole series and don't think its really that big of a deal. I liked it but it wasn't the best and most intellectual shit I've seen.
Besides, it took too long for it to get interesting.
When they start the whole shit with the Phantom Troupe it was somewhat nice, Greed Island was nice at times but a step down definetely.
I feel that Chimera Ant arc could've been the whole series and it would've been fine, it has character development and its the first time the series got me somewhat hooked.
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>>161626539
>Human's are just the WORST
>the best and most intellectual shit anon's seen
You need to stop watching anime and pick up something that isn't a magazine every once in a while.
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>>161626891
I think the reason you're so mad is because reading comprehension was lacking during your school years. You may want to read what I wrote again, I actually stated the exact opposite.
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>>161626951
It's probably just an ESL anon who's being way too smug for their level of fluency and comprehension.
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>>161621692
I lost interest with 2011, but I watched 99 out of curiosity and ended up watching the entire thing and the OVAs. You could still give it a try
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>>161625259
I had to check that episode because I refused to believe it was real, and holy shit. It's even worse than I remembered. The soundtrack is awful, the voice actors clearly don't give a fuck and the animation looks like a PS2 cutscene. What a fucking mess.
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>>161623014
I know you're being ironic but in case anyone actually thinks this:
Just look at the character's when they're more static. They are probably one of the better anatomically drawn models in the whole show (better than those on both 99 and 2011 versions).
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>watch 99 first, instead of starting the manga
>despite the slow start with hunter exams, shit was fun
>that Trollnpa
>that Hisoka going batshit
>that Hisoka reaping his arm off
>Yorkshin, when Phantom Troupes were Genei Ryodan
>suddenly Kurapika is the main character
>that Zeno and Silva vs Kuroro..Chrollo
>it's over
>wait, still some ova about Yorkshin
>that strategy and sneaking
>over
>some GI ova, but very shitty quality at the time
>decided to start reading the manga
>realize what's faithful to the manga and the fillers
>GI arc
>fucking scribbles everywhere and shitty quality scans
>a bit of ant arc was covered(until chap210 or so)
>even worse quality
>HIATUS, break, HIATUS, more shitty draws, HIATUS

I have been in this ride for far too long
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>>161626539
because as far as shounenshit goes, there really isn't any other that's more well crafted. I guess FMA would be close
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>>161625259
Jesus fuck that's trash.
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>>161622460
But that's from sailor moon
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>>161609453
I liked the atmosphere and the soundtrack (some of the sound effects were extremely goofy though) of 99 it was directed better, but the added/changed content was really unnecessary and I couldn't enjoy most of them (first stage tree, LeoPika trash, Killua foxbear thing, the conclusion of Killua and that crazy bitch etc). I think 11 has much better voice acting and the fights are better animated, obviously. I wonder if people thought 99 butchered their manga at the time.
>>161620968
Kurapika imagining EoE vs a faithful adaptation.
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>>161630072
The fact that its faithful does not translate to a better or well adapted product.
A example of this is Jojo part 4 final fight. The first part of Kira vs Josuke was good in the manga because you can read through all the talky parts of the fight with ease and never lose momentum, but in the anime you had to see characters explain every inch of the fucking ability they have and it was fucking boring.
So, the 1999 version had much more imagery and was, as a consequence, much more visually rich and interesting than the 2011 anime.
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>>161609453
No wonder shoukoku no altair is also fucked up
Same director
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>>161630166
>So, the 1999 version had much more imagery and was, as a consequence, much more visually rich and interesting than the 2011 anime.
This is might be true for that scene, but nitpicking doesn't prove anything. Maybe you enjoyed 99's added scenes more because you already read the manga? 99 also has a lot of added scenes and I wouldn't say most of them were interesting. 11's approach is safer regarding the characters since it stays within the boundaries. 99 explored them too much and some of the actions were out of character (Killua's especially) so watching it before reading the manga isn't a good choice in my opinion. This is mostly subjective though. I can't decide which one is better, but I think I'd still recommend 11 to newcomers.
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>>161620953
Honestly, Gon is the worst thing about 99. He looks like a mongoloid.
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>>161621774
I literally can't conceive how Biscuit's protrayal deviates from the manga's in any way. Care to elaborate?
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>>161623014
People who watch this normally never notice shit like this.
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>>161622746
>Lipstick
Well, it's not out of character for him to go the extra mile.
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>>161624685
Speedreading posts?
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>>161624922
Not in the manga = filler
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>>161626891
>Human's are just the WORST
Did we read the same arc?
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>>161619246
Go fuck yourself cringy Redditor
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>>161620980
>>161620968
>>161620953
99 is so much better drawn it's Not even funny, 2011tards are just manchildren without taste or brains
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>>161630635
I'm sorry if I explained myself incorrectly. I actually was just talking about this particular scene. I've seen various parts of 1999 on youtube but never actually seen the whole series.
I believe the 1999 version has much better drawings and direction from what I have seen (I have seen the whole 2011 series).
As far as how the stories and characters are portrayed, I'm not really able to judge.
I still stand by the point that, generally, a faithful adaptation is not necessarily a good one, no matter the medium.
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>>161616997
He's definitely pushing me from questioning to bisexual.
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>>161621619
This is why I mostly don't watch TV anime anymore. All manga for me.
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>>161609453
it's miles better than the FoxKids -tier 2011 remake.

>>161610647
All you listed are superior to the no-animation + all-knowing-narrator 2011.
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>>161616997
It doesn't help that the bath scene where Leorio nearly sees him naked is Love Hina tier. Togashi is a trapfag.
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I watched the 99 series and OVAs a few weeks ago. Now the only thing I have left to watch is The Last Mission.

The other movie was awful - is this one any better?
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>>161632722
I'd totally forgotten that the movies exist.
Never really watched either one of them. Just did some research, and came to the conclusion that they're yet another set of "totally not canon, everything will be forgotten! ^^" -style spinoff films.
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>>161615080
what a retarded and unpractical jump.
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Manga> both versions suck it madhouse fags
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>>161632995
Only the 99fags are retarded enough to pretend their version is better than the manga because of all the filler.
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>>161620953
1999 version respects the 180 rule.
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>>161616997
>that kid that was convinced Kurapika was a girl
he would show us R63 fan-art on the school computers as proof
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>>161630777
Once again, you're complaining about an anime adaption expanding actual scenarios that were implied in the manga as filler. That's exactly what every anime should do: Take the source material and add to it to fill twenty minutes instead of dragging on a manga panel for three minutes with mouth flaps and talking. I don't know who made it cool to do that, but it's had a negative effect on adaptions and also creatively stifled the direction and presentation.

>>161630721
Biscuit in the manga looks like a little girl in some panels, but '99 plays the porcelain doll look straighter with a slight redesign. Moreso with this volume cover deliberately telling you what she's supposed to be.
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>>161633278
Or you could adapt more than a single chapter per episode.
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HIATUS IN 2 DAYS
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>>161633297
SAY IT AINT SO
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>>161609750
This isn't even a digital episode.
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>tfw no hisOka this year
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>>161633297
My hopes are set low but I've still got a little optimism in me that hopes we get another year with 30 chapters in it. Togashi seems to be doing well and his assistant last year said their plan was to complete about 6 months worth of chapters before beginning to release them, and 6 months is about enough time to get out 3 volumes worth of content.
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>>161633291
Then you'd have no choice but TO make filler, dumbass. Don't ever direct a manga adaption.
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>>161616997
>almost masturbated to puck before
i think i might legitimately have but i cant remember
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>>161633369
Plenty of other series get by fine though?
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>>161633278
99's added scenes weren't all great though. Do you like LeoPika moments and Killua foxbear thing for example? The worst one might be Netero forgiving the woman chasing after Killua just because and Zoldycks did nothing wrong conclusion. They've even made Leorio take the bus at the exam island for some reason. Also, 99's character designs are one of its worst aspects in my opinion.
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>>161633440
>Do you like LeoPika moments and Killua foxbear thing for example?
Yes. The former giving those two a good contrast to Gon/Killua and the latter explained here: >>161622090

Most of you '99 haters either started with 2011 or are underage and fail to realize why 1:1 adaptions fall flat.

>>161633433
Put it this way: 2011 did what you mentioned and by the midpoint of CA the pacing took a massive slog, due to Togashi still drawing the final moments of the arc. Without shitting on FMA 2003, there's a reason you don't get greedy with your adaption. One Piece as well. Without a break, you get recap episodes frequently and awful pacing, ironically something HxH '99 avoided.
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>>161633440
Not him, but yes - I do like practically all of that.
Some of the additions work as improved character and/or world building material, increasing impact of certain scenes later on.

The character design, or more like the color-design, is vastly superior in 1999 version. The 2011 remake's director must really love the CYMK color palette, which just hurts my eyes.
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>>161633602
Oh I was thinking more along the lines of finished manga, not ongoing ones since CA and the Election arcs were ongoing when 2011 started. Don't know why. Disregard my posts then.
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>>161633617
>Some of the additions work as improved character
Killua refrained from killing that woman and fucking with Tonpa just because of Gon yet he later tried to kill that foxbear. How is that fine?
>The character design, or more like the color-design, is vastly superior in 1999 version. The 2011 remake's director must really love the CYMK color palette, which just hurts my eyes.
To each their own I guess. I think 11's atmosphere is too childish, but I like the designs more.
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>>161633685
>Killua refrained from killing that woman and fucking with Tonpa just because of Gon yet he later tried to kill that foxbear. How is that fine?
So THAT is the biggest problem in the whole series for you? Really?
Still, it's people vs literal wild animals. And it again goes to establish Gon as even more stubborn, yet strong little hippie.

>think 11's atmosphere is too childish, but I like the designs more.
I absolutely hate how they made every other character a blonde, or have those totally unnatural colors in general. The more earthly tones fit the series way better.

Everything about Newshin-city in 2011 was just awful. I ended up skipping forward like crazy because I couldn't stand watching that crap.
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>>161633602
The real issue is that the source material is pretty weak overall with a lot of holes and poorly executed scenes, so adaptation can either follow it faithfully and end up just as mediocre or rework it entirely coming up with something akin to fanfiction.
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>>161633742
>So THAT is the biggest problem in the whole series for you? Really?
I was just giving an example.
>Still, it's people vs literal wild animals. And it again goes to establish Gon as even more stubborn, yet strong little hippie.
We have already seen the same thing with Kite and Gon. Killua's character swaying that much is weird. Why wouldn't he respect Gon there?
>>161633602
I believe you first read the manga even before watching 99? I respect what both 99 and 11 tries to achieve. 11 doesn't explore much and tries to stay as faithful as possile to the original while 99 fleshens things out. I guess watching 99 would be more exciting assuming you've read the manga before, but I wouldn't say 1:1 adaptations fall flat just because of that since you aren't the only target demographic.
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>>161633783
This.

The most extreme example of "enhanced adaptation" would be K-ON. The manga is a fucking mess compared to the anime, which is almost 3/4 new contend created to flesh out the cast and connect the otherwise very vague and even uninteresting scenes and "jokes" together in a natural manner.
People disliked the College -sequel a lot, but most likely simply because it just kept doing what the OG K-ON manga did.
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>>161633866
>Why wouldn't he respect Gon there?
Because it's all still extremely foreign world to him. Be it killing or horribly mutilating fellow competitors during the quiet time, I'm sure Gon would not have liked Killua's outbursts during the Hunter exam either.

The foxbear stuff merely works as an early reminder that Killua's ideologies and methods are vastly different from Gon. They clearly enjoy being with each other, both partly because of lack of real friends, but initially Killua was "just wasting time" with this weirdo countryside kid. Later in the series, the said scenes can even seen as first foreshadows of them splitting up and Killua acting against Gon's wishes.

If anything, this makes their friendship more believable. They're not 100% on the same page, can argue and fight, but still tolerate and accept each other. It's pretty fucking gay, I know.
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>>161630166
>but in the anime you had to see characters explain every inch of the fucking ability they have and it was fucking boring
aka the jojo anime in general, in the case where they try too hard not to anger fans instead of making something fresh
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>>161634015
Yes, that scene alone makes perfect sense as you've described. Killua not killing that girl because Gon would be mad at him and then doing that is just weird. I guess you could say Killua doesn't know how to act, but he could have said Gon would be mad I shouldn't kill that foxbear or something like that. Because Killua says he does things he wouldn't normally do when he's with Gon, that was emphasized in the manga and 11 too.
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>>161634057
To be honest most people in JoJo threads these days seem to agree that the anime shouldn't adapt so directly and should take a fucking chill pill when it comes to narration. It works in manga form because you're actually reading it and at your own pace, similarly with the narration in the Chimera Ant arc, but it just doesn't work in anime form. I know it's risky to make changes to something that's been around so long and held in high regard by tons of other mangaka and animators but the end result works so much better because it was actually ADAPTED rather than just animated. While opinions are mixed on the DiU anime everyone pretty much universally agrees that the times they removed extraneous dialogue and changed the sequence of some events or added scenes were great. It's a shame that neither JoJo nor HxH will get an entire adaptation of that quality.
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>>161620980
The scenery int he top left image is gorgeous.
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>>161634178
1999 is full of background art porn.
One thing I missed in 2011 version.
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99 >

11 is more faithful to the manga in design

11 has better narration and music

99 has better art and sound effects

neither have Hisoka vs Chrolo so they both suck there
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>>161617252
>we don't know how to convey intimidation or dread
>let's just color the whole thing purple lmao
Modern 'directing'.
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>>161609453

It's not "HORRIBLE" but it's extremely overrated.
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>>161634354
You can thank Togashi for that, the scene in manga had nothing to imply it's supposed to be as dreadful as in 99 version. >>161619171
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>>161619235
Kurapika is cute no matter what the version is!!
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>>161634503
An adaptation is not a copy. It's the same scene but the animated version uses a different viewpoint. The characters are essentially behaving the same way in both.
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>>161634211
I generally don't watch shounen adaptations, because they are usually shit, but this looks nice.
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>>161633866
I started with 2011, then picked up the manga and looked at '99.

>>161634015
You summed it up better than I could.
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>>161634316
>11 has better narration and music
I hated the narrator and the absolutely moronic, constant cliffhanger placements. Not to mention the way they just speed through the beginning, skipping entire chapters, which came back to bite them in the ass later on (ie introduction of Kite).

I literally cannot recall a single 2011 song, and I watched the entire thing just months ago.
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>>161619235
>>161621436
>>161634512
Kurapika looks like a girl so he is a trap. Simple as that.
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>>161635223
>I literally cannot recall a single 2011 song, and I watched the entire thing just months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIn_au1-LMw
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>>161635223
>I literally cannot recall a single 2011 song, and I watched the entire thing just months ago.
I'm sure you're exaggerating but here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8pD9axPmcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGwKe8xshqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfR9haRPlSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eTPTDE7Fr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjuLzpDQg-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJVdC6Hysns
I don't know how anyone can prefer 99's MIDI soundtrack, yeah 11's was REALLY repetitive ut still. And don't get me started on the shitty sound effects.
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>>161635444
>to give a marionette life
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>>161635476
You mean that the recording quality is low for the youtube video?
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>>161635524
yeah, the upload is pretty bad. plus these extended pieces usually suck
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>>161635223
I recall that fucking pirate fanfare they played all the time during the first arc. I believe it also played in the episode previews.
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>>161635444
>I don't know how anyone can prefer 99's MIDI soundtrack,
Because they're far more memorable and fit the mood better? Because there's more songs to boot?
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>>161636058
I literally cannot recall a single 1999 song, and I watched the entire thing just months ago.
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>>161636141
nice maymay.
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>>161619246
this desu
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Currently 64 episodes into 2011 and 17 episodes into 1999 here.

I like both.
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>>161615080
Fake. White bois can't jump.
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Is there a 2011 version of this scene?`

Or just give me a higher res. pls
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>>161621278
One of my favorite ships in the series.
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>>161636834
Basho isn't white.
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>>161610961
>The music is especially mediocre in comparison.

In 2011 they repeat the same track every episode
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>>161637700
>tfw when they play the intro so many times it gets stale
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>>161637473
That episode is filler I think. An extra hunter exam challenge.
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>>161617252
>>161620953
>>161620968
>>161620980
>>161634211
/thread
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watching random episodes of the 99 version right now

the more relaxed music and coloring style is pretty comfortable
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I'm speaking based on memories of literally ten years ago, but I read the manga after the anime and I barely even noticed the fillers, or they didn't bother me at all.
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I had no idea 99 was filled with so much filler
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>>161634211
>tfw there will never be a grim adaption like this of chimera ant arc
2011 was a fucking joke
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>>161638555
>>161638560
There are literally 3 filler episodes out of the 90 something episodes.
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>try to watch 2011 version
>notice they skipped the boat adventure scene
>notice they skipped much more fillers
>notice every edgy scene that happened in the manga and 1999 version isn't depicted accurately in 2011
>drop it after 40episodes
n-no thanks
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>>161638894
You don't watch all of 2011, you start at Greed Island.
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>>161637700
>>161637788
That's what makes me think 2011 was on a budget, but lacked the direction and clever use of shortcuts '99 used. And MIDI being used for '99 doesn't mean shit, a good composer knows what instruments to use.
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Only the coloring in 99 was better.
Music, visuals, voicing, animation. Everything else is worst.
Get taste 99 fags.

2011 is a rare exception of anime adaptation done well.
Except for the coloring.
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>>161639707
https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/hxh-99-hxh-2011-btw/
You made me reply, but still.
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>>161639707
>music was bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5ozXo9alQ
>visuals were bad
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So I should read this or what?
I guess I shouldn't read it all in one sitting because of the hiatus
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>>161639911
Read it, and read it again. One problem with HxH threads are 2011 kiddies watching it and picking the manga up where it left off and asking stupid questions. Read it and read it again. Read it as much as you can.
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>>161634211
This just makes me hurt, knowing that nothing will ever look this good again
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>>161633278
I meant how 2011 Biscuit is any different from the manga.
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>>161633278
>Take the source material and add to it to fill twenty minutes instead of dragging on a manga panel for three minutes with mouth flaps and talking
You can do neither too. A better example of what you're implying is the BnHA anime (except that filler episode). They add little moments to expand the world without breaking the pace. HxH just has a lot of derailing filler.

Not saying 2011 is perfect.
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>>161615502
i just like this bansho jump, never watched hxh anime, only read mango
if it's another ridiculous jump and if you have some video of that, i'd like to see
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>>161640105
In 2011, she's more of a moeblob. Characterization isn't any different, but the design really pushes the blob traits more than the subtle mix of the bisque doll and childlike appearance of the manga.

>>161640156
>HxH just has a lot of derailing filler
Did you even watch it? Not only is the 'filler' (only three episodes count as filler) not derailing, it accentuates the source material and not once was the pacing broken or derailed. 2011's problem is that it goes too fast in some areas but becomes a slogfest at the same time.
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Can't we just agree both 99 and 11 are interesting adaptations with different strengths?
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>>161628214
Despite the many brakes ,its a nice ride
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>>161641212
Probably.
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>>161635262
Well Kurapika doesn't really look like a girl, nor does he usually dress like a girl, and he especially doesn't act like one, therefore he's not a trap.
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>>161635262
>androgynous = trap
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