Fate

>>161451177
Sumanai.

>>161451177
Sumanai.

>>161451192
>>161451193
Why are you sorry I summoned the best class, I can't lose

>>161451177
Sumanai

>>161451177
Sumanai.

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>>161451177
Sumanai, OP

>>161451177
>Your servant kill himself to prolong mysterious homunculus life

Sumanai

>>161451269
Sumanai.

>when nasu forces you to introduce a retarded character to shit up your novel

>>161451932
I feel bad for Karna and the Greek heroes, they were legit good characters stuck in the shit fest that was F/A.

>>161451177
Redman can trace Brynhildr's spear. Sumanai loses

>>161451177
Sumanai

>>161451932
>forces

Nasu just suggested that he introduced a MC to the story. Not his fault than Higashide can't write for shit.

>>161451976
At least Karna got his big break in Extra, and even got his own route in Extella.

Most of the others will forever be tainted by association, unless GO of all things lets Achilles do something cool.

TM will not let stronger saber appear than King Arthur. Everyone gets weaker than her. Siegfried died for homunculus because of Higashide. I wanted to see his success. Frankenstein is also so.

>>161455624
king arthur is weak as shit and gets beaten by everyone though

>>161452742
Since the original specs are different, I think that Siegfried will not be defeated.

>>161455655
Her sword is set to be strongest. No one can win against her. She is loved by TM.

>>161451269
Basically he will not be defeated. However, Carna and Gilgamesque, Achilles' strongest opponent will not win.

>>161455727
Someone post the pic where Kuzuki is choking the fuck out of her. Or when herc slashed her stomach.

>>161455727
>cucked by gil
>cucked by every lancer (somehow)
>cucked by caster every time
>cucked by an actual human
>cucked by berserker

great heroic spirit you got there

>>161451177
There is something I always wondered, why is Servant considered the "best class".

Most Sabers have pretty straight simple NP, while everyone else has really elaborated things. Its a stat thing?

>>161455933
stats are high but they're just useless jobbers

then again, fate is written so that almost everyone gets hyped up but is just a useless jobber

Higashide makes heroes weaker. Siegfried and Karna are invulnerable, but not with Fate.

>>161455996
siegfried wasn't that invulnerable

>>161454451
I just want Achilles to have an interlude with his angry loli waifu.

Everyone insists that their favorite is strong and says weak characters are weak.

>>161456047
wrong, i think every character is weak, especially the ones i like

>>161456018
In Der Nibelungenlied he is invulnerable except for his weak spots.

>>161456072
Sorr.
Not everyone, but a lot of people.

>>161455933
Because Sabers won the most HGWs. And any class can have servants with good stats.

>>161456097
>except for his weak spots

that's exactly what i am referring to, if you have vulnerabilities you are by very definition not invulnerable

>>161456177
What I'd like to say is that the fact that attacks do not pass through except for his back is changed in Fate. I do not want to talk about the definition of invulnerability. However, Siegfried is actually called an invincible hero.

>>161456342
right but he got killed, so he's de facto very vincible

>>161456371
That's because he attacked his weak point, so he will die. Even Achilles was attacked by the heel and died.

>>161456417
yeah, and achilles isn't invincible either, they both get instantly killed by being struck in non vital areas

But Achilles is also called an immortal hero. Let's stop this topic anymore. I am tired from each other.

>>161456493
>immortal
>dies

really makes you think

Didn't Nasu say that Gil is the strongest and bestest Servant for being the oldest hero?

I am tired from discussion.
Fate series fans have energy.

>>161456535
There is a hero older than him in reality history. But in Nasuverse he is the oldest and is strongest except God.

>>161456655
who? as far as i know the epic is the earliest big thing that we still know about

>>161456680
Probably some cavemen

>>161456741
do heroes that are lost to history really count? and those would only be known to a few people due to the nature of early human society so they'd be weak

Arjuna and Karna think that the stage of the story is older than Gil.

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Are they ever gonna give us news on when Heaven's Feel will come to theaters in the west, or am I just bad at looking this shit up?

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>>161455727
So what about King Richard the chuuni, the guy who can turn sticks into Excalibur?

>>161457227
Aniplex hasn't announced anything, but maybe they'll bring it out a month or two like they did with Kizu

>>161455933
They are basically a generalist class, without any glaring weaknesses, so they should be able to go toe to toe with any servant they face.

As one of the knight classes, they have an extra fuck you to Casters by having high Magic Resistance, while being more versatile than the glass cannon lancer and archers.

>>161455727
>Excalibur
>strongest
Isn't the strongest actually Excalibur Proto with all of its seals released?

I'm pretty sure there's a damn good reasom Proto Arthur is the guy travelling between timelines saving em, not Artoria.
He was also most probably the guy that saved Extra-verse from Altera as well

>>161458091
How strong is proto-Excalibur tho? As Strong as EA? I mean he did overpower Proto-EA with just four seals

>>161458350
In FGO Proto Excalibur apparently reaches anti-fortress levels with just half of its seals gone.
Proto Ea is probably just that shit if its countered by Proto Excalibur with 4 seals released.

>>161458566
Wait doesn't Proto Excalibur always have 6 seals always released and the other six are only released in special conditions, like is the enemy stronger than Arthur bla bla bla. What I meant by 4 seals is that Arthur unlocked 4 out of the special condition seals that allowed him to BTFO proto-Gil

>Achilles' dad wanted him to be part mortal
FUCK YOU DAD. I would be so salty if he was my father and I was an inch away from true immortality.

>>161455955
It kind of annoys me that people like Saber or Gil hae the most shitty NP but they are op anyway.

Everyone has things that tergiverses the laws of casuality or tears the fabric of reality, but those job in front of a giant beam or a rain of swords.

One servant uses an arrow that shoots the very concept of self and the other counters with a breach of reality.

But when Saber uses her beam of light or Gil his sword rain everyone just sits there waiting to be hit.

>>161460648
Ea can fuck with the fabric of reality though.

>>161459373
But then he couldn't qualify for the grail wars anymore

>>161459373
It probably beats being a Greek Hero Prince over living as some lower God on Olympos. The Greek Pantheon is filled with some of the most dickish people in mythology, fuck living with them. You'll be there a week tops before Zeus fucks your girlfriend and Hera turns her into a sardine as punishment.

>>161451177
That's not Cu Chuulain.

At least he's the strongest in F/GO being nigh unkillable for once

>>161460648
Nasu just has a thing for his aryan self inserts.

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>>161461897
cu best boy